Barghouti to Israel: Failure to release top prisoners will invite more kidnappings

Blaming the victim, Barghouti claims the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers -- which sparked the month-long war with Hizballah and escalated operations in the Gaza Strip -- is Israel's fault for not releasing its Palestinian and Lebanese prisoners. Of course, Barghouti has a vested interest in this, as he sits in an Israeli prison serving five life sentences for the deaths of four Israelis and a Greek monk. From YNet News: "Barghouti: More kidnappings if top prisoners not freed"

If senior Palestinian security prisoners are not released as part of the prisoner swap deal to free kidnapped Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, more kidnappings will likely ensue, jailed Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti said.
Barghouti, who is serving five life sentences in an Israeli prison, expressed this view during a one-and-a-half hour meeting Wednesday with MK Taleb El-Sana at the prison's visiting quarters. In addition to Shalit’s release, the two discussed the pending PA unity government and the implications of the war in Lebanon.
El-Sana said he came away with the impression that Barghouti was in heightened spirits and that he was familiar with the smallest details of the political realities in both Israel and the Palestinian Authority.
According to El-Sana, during their conversation Barghouti charged Israel with responsibility for the kidnappings. If Israel had agreed to free Samir Kuntar, the kidnappings in Lebanon could have been avoided, and Israel’s release of Palestinian prisoners would have not only prevented the snatching of Shalit, but also strengthened Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' leadership.

Samir Kuntar (whom Palestinian Authority media has called a "beacon of light") is serving multiple life sentences for killing an Israeli father and his two daughters in 1979. Barghouti would like this, and his own crimes, swept under the rug, lest the Palestinians kidnap more Israelis to use as bargaining chips for their release.

Barghouti added, "Just as Gilad Shalit is important to his family and country, so is every Palestinian prisoner."
It has already been proven that the prisoners are the true leaders of the Palestinian people, he declared, as only they could draft the list of principles which became a basis of unity for the Palestinians, and came to be known as the ‘Prisoners’ Document.’
He noted that any step towards a prisoner swap deal must be approved by the prisoners themselves, and therefore if the deal doesn’t include senior detainees -- it will only invite additional kidnappings.
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I think that this is the dillema. Should we release bloodthirsty, convicted terrorists, so that the kidnapped will return to their families, or should we forget about them, for the principle?

Apparently, these terrorists REALLY think they should be allowed to commit any crime they want and get away with them. Let them kill or kidnap at will while Israel says it's OK. At that rate, these idiots will win by wiping out Israel one citizen at a time.

By the way, why should Israel strengthen the hand of Abbas? What the hell has he done for Israel anyway except condone the usual insnity of the terrorists? Let's face it, the whole "land for peace, let's recognize the PA" farce is dead. It appears more and more that this was just a bunch of BS from the start as the "peaceful" Palestinians are anything but that. The iron fist is the only thing these barbarians respect and understand and Israel needs to get back to using it before it becomes just a word in a history book.

Just received in the mail Robert Spencer's new book, The Truth about Muhammad. Am finished with the first couple of chapters and so far the book is superb.

Every time "Palestinian" prisoners are mentioned, Samir Kuntar and his act of derring-do (a "hero" of the "Palestinian" resistance) should be recalled. And make sure you have every detail straight. Did Samir Kuntar first smash in the skull of the older girl, the five-year-old, in front of her helpless father, and then kill him, or did Samir Kuntar, that "beacon of light," first kill the father in front of his five-year-old daughter, and then smash her head against rocks on the beach?

Samir Kuntar. One of the "Palestinian" prisoners whose freedom is most insistently demanded by other "Palestinians" and identical non-"Palestinian" Arabs, for Samir Kuntar was so notably brave, so outstandingly admirable.

That is the "Palestinian" "Authority." That is the "Palestinian" cause. Those are the "Palestinians."

I personally would favour Chinalike approach here. Get back our kidnapped Israelis. Then strike all the muslimes and their supporters dead in one decisive stroke.

Let them loose, but make sure you have some 500 lb bombs with their names and locations on it.

Hmm professional retards.

With Barghouti being a "senior detainee", the demand couldn't be more obviously self-serving, could it?

I guess things have gone so far that it doesn't matter that this is so.

I just saw, moments ago, on a Times Square news banner something about Israel releasing a high-level Palestinian official. Wonder if he was part of the recent crop of detainees, or a "senior detainee".

"Samir Kuntar (whom Palestinian Authority media has called a "beacon of light") is serving multiple life sentences for killing an Israeli father and his two daughters in 1979. Barghouti would like this, and his own crimes, swept under the rug...."

The Koran tells him that he killed a debased people that are no better than "apes and pigs" so he doesn't see it as crime. It's sort of like the large Arab landowners who sold land to the Zionists (prior to 1948), who then accused them of taking Arab land, who fomented violence to take back "stolen land". The Koran justified-rationalized that too. This kind of mind is crippled when it comes to logic, responsibility and reality. This kind of mind cannot produce new creative thought, great science, it can only be a parasitical mind that wishes by violence to cripple all minds with its belief-system.


The worst aspect of this kind of mind is its very bad judgement when it comes to reading reality. Mark my words-one day this distorted mind will brig a catastrophe to the Muslim Mideast.

Okay - turn off this child killer's microphone. What a pathetic piece of human waste. The fact that he uses some political agenda to justify his crimes sickens me. You killed a family you piece of shit! Why do we in the free world allow evil a voice? Good people can really be stupid. Other people use evil for their selfish purposes, we see it on TV every night. It disgusts me to read something like this and I wonder what the @#$ is wrong with Israeli press and government to allow this evil a voice.

Why do we insist on listening to what evil has to say? Morbid curiousity?

Let's see.

Some guy in jail yells at a guard. "If you don't let me and my cronies out, some of my guys on the outside are going to commit more crimes!"

And so it goes.

God willing, of course.

Islamic murderers must be released because they killed infidels and that's not much of a crime in Islam's view. Muslims are superior to all thus for a mass murderer of Jews to be in prison just doesn't compute for Muslims

Release the lawless, ignore their murders, then let them be the leaders of a people who hate you...ya, makes PERFECT sense. (remind me again how islam benefits civilization....)

is Israel's fault for not releasing its Palestinian and Lebanese prisoners. Of course, Barghouti has a vested interest in this, as he sits in an Israeli prison serving five life sentences for the deaths of four Israelis and a Greek monk.hmm sounds like this guy and the idoits who support the plo are still living in a dream world Barghouti his own crimes, swept under the rug, in there eyes there not crimes hell they were killing jews not mollems and since jews are not moslems and hence humman in his eyes terrorists like him have not commited any crimes

The more heinous the deed, the more heroic the perpetrator. This is what passes for Palestinian logic.


Samir Kuntar and Barghouti subpoenas should be sent via "air mail." they wrapped in bacon and cooked to a crispy dark brown in that great frying pan in Hell. It's a very large frying pan with plenty of room for them!

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2006/06/politically-incorrect-guide-crispy.html

Allaaaaaaaaahu Akbarrrrr! I just love the smell of crispy danish bacon!

Slightly OT:

Why is that mouthpiece Blair continuously calling for the return of the peace process with the palistineans (muslim arabs) ????

He seems to be ignorant and counterproductive: to think Abbas is other than another Wolf in sheep's clothing.

Is it ingrained stupidity about islam ? After all his govt. elevated muslim arab association Sir Iqbal Socranie to knighthood (talk about putting the fox in charge of the chickenhouse).

Is he just suffering from a continental case of deeply ingrained anti semitism?

Is sleeping close to a limousine liberal like Cherie Blair having noxious effects ?

Is he just a brilliant, but benighted lefty fool (a little like W. Clitman) ?

Is he looking for petro dollars on retirement, or a job at the putrid UN, and he is just trying to ingratiate himself before he leaves the stage ?

As for Barghouti:

hopefully Israel will get rid of useless Olmert, enact a War Measures Act, have military tribunals, and start shooting these scum.

but no, Israel must be a 'light unto the world'. What arrogance. What a proscription for defeat.

dhimmis and appeasers and moral equivalencers who are Israeli are disgusting, like having to live with Hillary yapping in your ear 24/7.

Religion?........Of peace?......Why doesn't the whole population ask questions?......RoP®?.....These are strange times indeed.

Every post so far right on target! ON TARGET, get it?

Why does Israel continue to house these Nazi pigs? An earlier non p.c infused Israeli Gov. didnt hesitate to execute Eichmann. Sigh, times they are a-changing.

Isnt everyone elated that Bargubbie has "heightened spirits"? No wonder! He knows a weak leadership will cave in to these threats.

This just happens to be something my Wife and I are very knowledgeable about. We have done Prison Ministry for many years and have been in prisons and jails hundreds of times. This is like a death row inmate demanding to be released or murder will continue on the outside.

The Ministry we have was born out of my experience in my foolish mis-spent youth and spent a few months in prison for a very minor infraction. Even then Muslims were heavily recruiting amongst black prisoners. They became just another prison gang like the Bloods and Crips and the Aryan Brotherhood. Lots of very frightened white boys joined the A.B.(Nazis) just for protection.( not me!)

That anti-christ spirit always wants to kill Jews. Its the SAME spirit that lurks behind Islam. Do you think they would hesitate building ovens if they had the chance?

After many years experience, We know that men and women can change, and some do, and then lead productive lives, HOWEVER , some never will and should NEVER be released!

Einstein said that INSANITY is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting things to change. Islam should learn this, oh, I forgot, Einstein was a Jew.

Perhaps, Israeli should execute every prisoner
they hold to prevent further kidnappings of their soldiers and citizens. And take no prisoners no more.

Guys, eBay is shipping koran and other islamic items, though they have a policy not to put an item that propagates hatred etc... they also encourage to report such items. I think we could ban koran from being distributed via through eBay

So let's imagine that the Israelis release ALL of the Palestinian prisoners, all the terrorists and Arab malcontents. What then? Is Israel going to be promised an end to the bloodshed and the intifada? Not bloody likely.

But in the future the Israeli authorities should probably execute the perpetrators instead of imprisoning them. But then this would just encourage more suicide attacks. It really looks like there is no way for Israel to win.

Exactly what the Arabs want.

Israeli could win if such cocksuckers as UN and some European countries did not stand in their way. They learned to deal with arabs ok, just remember Egypt and Lebanon reacently.
Islam can understand only brute force. Anything that is part of Europenian so cold humanism they consider weakness. And weakness it is.

"Barghouti charged Israel with responsibility for the kidnappings."

Muslims do not know the MEANING of responsibility. If they did, then this idiot wouldn't place the blame for the kidnappings on Israel.

Islam produces dysfunctional liars!

Guys, eBay is shipping koran and other islamic items, though they have a policy not to put an item that propagates hatred etc...

Posted by: Hell Awaits

With all the anti-Israel sentiment out there nowadays I'm almost shocked that eBay hasn't offered to sell a DVD of that family classic by Dr. Goebbels called "The Eternal Jew". No doubt it would be a hot seller in the Islamaniac world
and required watching for the peaceful ones so they can learn all the "facts" about their enemy.

So Barghouthi is jailed for 5 life sentences because his militant resistance group is responsible of few civil casualities? This is is really irrirtating ... how long should Mr Olmert and Mr Bush be prisoned for the massive civil casualties they caused in iraq and palestine?

So Israel will keep on ruling palestinian land and refuse to give palestinians any status in their own lands ... oh, except that if they commit crimes they will be jailed for that....I call this rude racism!

Sounds like more recruits for the Palestinian Security services.

Meanwhile, a statement from the Mujahideen Shura Council in Iraq concerning the Pope at Jihad Unspun:

So we say this to the cross worshiper:

Both you and the Romans, await the defeat as you see what happens everyday in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere as we are awaiting victory, martyrdom, triumph, enabling the Caliphate (Islamic state) that judges by the law of Allah. Then we will break the cross, shed the wine and we wont accept Jiziya (Islam or Death), Allah will give Muslims the victory in their war against the Romans and their final capital Rome like his Prophet Mohammed, peace upon him, has promised in the authentic Hadith and just as we were the victorious when we conquered Istanbul in the past.

"Romans" is a word used to refer to the Eastern Roman Empire (at the time of Muhamamd), the Christians or generally, the West.

Al-Mahdi & Antichrist.

When our men fall into the hands of the Jihadists, they are tortured, killed, mutilated, and booby-trapped. We treat captives humanely and allow them to spew their blather. Heaven knows that we need to present their lawyers with the classified evidence used to prosecute them.

The moral high ground doesn’t seem to be very valuable. My vote is kidnap and hold the children of the Lebanese and Palestinian decision-makers and then begin to negotiate.

I seem to recall that back in the 1980's when Westerners were being kidknapped in Beirut the idiots also took a Soviet diplomat. The Soviets got their man back right after the KGB identified the kidnappers, killed the brother of their leader, and dumped the body at the door of their HQ with a note saying they could expect more of this until they released their hostage.

Moral? Nope. Effective? Yes. The Westerners had their moral high ground while their people remained captive for years. Israel needs to get back to basics-they'll be damned no matter what they do as far as the media goes but maybe they'll have fewer kidnappings.

When our children are condemned to slavery in an islamic earth-hell, they will be so grateful to us for always taking the "high moral ground" instead of effectively countering the advancing barbarians.

Kidnapping of Israeli military personnel is now established as an Islamically legitimate jihad tactic among the Palestinians and other militant Islamic groups. These people will henceforth be rationalizing reasons for doing things like this non-stop. The truth remains Islam operates by blackmail--"DO WHAT WE TELL YOU OR ELSE..." And there is NEVER any end to it.

So, even if Israelis co-operate with HAMAS and its ilk on the Palestinians' terms, the violence against Israelis will stop only for the duration that it takes Muslims to come up with the next pretext for violence against the Jews (like, say, maybe eight minutes).

Averroes...Reality escapes you...Olmert and Bush represent governments protecting the interests of their countrys. You may not like the way they do that or the reasons for it, but it is their intrinsic right. What gov does Barghouti represent? None...he is just another Islamic murderer for Allah...same with the charming Kuntar. It's typical for the mind fogged muslims (such as yourself)to blame Israel for everything. How about Allah...just how much of this blood letting is HE responsible for??? It's not Olmert and Bush who have to be defeated, its your demon Allah that needs to go, along with his pornographic book, the Quran. It would seem that Israel gave back some of those'Palestinan lands, to the 'Palestinian People'(Gaza ect), neither of which actually exist, and look what the industrious 'Palestinian people' have done with it. The place (Gaza) is now an Islamic paradise. No one is hungry, no one is sick, everyone has a TV and electricity and a good income....Gaza is now heaven on Earth, now that the Israelis are gone the 'Palestinian People' are happy and content....Oh thats right, they are not totally gone...some of those swell 'Palestinian people' started some sht and Israel had to finish it. Well, once those trouble makers are stopped, the Palestinian people can go back to their paradise...they earned it, they desreve it...

just release us, the murders and rapists, and everything will be just fine we will leave you alone until the next time.

Israeli should declare a ten mile wide no-mans land around Israeli and keep it clear of all persons, buildings and vehicles...........

http://www.theotherpaper.com/ OT. This is from the creators of the Jihad commercial here in Columbus.

duh_swami ... you guessed wrong, I am not a muslim. In fact this just shows how biased and irrational you are in your judgments.

Anyway, I will not go into that issue about Islam and violence, for every religion, as history proves, has it's share of violence and inhumanity.
What I really find funny is the way how you equate the palestinian cause with the islamist terrorists cause else where. It is in fact very much similar to an attempt to equate the middle ages crusades with the eastern europeans struggle to to free from turkish rule. Both are based on the bible, when the former is inhuman aggression and the later is a right!

When I talk about the palestinian question I talk about another level that is completely different than what you think about. For the palestinian struggle for freedom is their intrinsic right as humans apart from any ideologies that might wrap that right.

The desire of many palestinians to retrive the whole land of palestine is normal if we also look at Greeks still thinking Istanbul is greek, and at Hugarians still thinking Transelvania is Hungarian, and at Finns thinking Karelia is Finnish, etc. However, palestinians while will still dream about historical palestine will only fight for their basic rights of living as humans! being given a state and being respected by Israel. The ideologies never matters...it is what is their on the ground that really matters!

And why palestinians are suicide bombing? ...i dont even find this difficult to understand ...If I were a palestinian in Gazza see my house buldozed down, and my mother weeping on the crubbles over my brothers body, I would not be sure that my mental state at that moment wont make me put all morals apart and blow up in the face of my agressor!

Soory I dont have a link to this article,but it is pretty interesting to bear in mind when the Palis whine about occupation

For many centuries, Palestine was a sparsely populated, poorly cultivated and widely-neglected expanse of eroded hills, sandy deserts and malarial marshes. Mark Twain, who visited Palestine in 1867, described it as: "...[a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds-a silent mournful expanse....A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action....We never saw a human being on the whole route....There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."

As late as 1880, the American consul in Jerusalem reported the area was continuing its historic decline. "The population and wealth of Palestine has not increased during the last forty years," he said.

The Report of the Palestine Royal Commission quotes an account of the Maritime Plain in 1913:

The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts...no orange groves, orchards or vineyards were to be seen until one reached [the Jewish village of] Yabna [Yavne]....Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen....The ploughs used were of wood....The yields were very poor....The sanitary conditions in the village were horrible. Schools did not exist....The western part, towards the sea, was almost a desert....The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants.


Lewis French, the British Director of Development wrote of Palestine:

We found it inhabited by fellahin who lived in mud hovels and suffered severely from the prevalent malaria....Large areas...were uncultivated....The fellahin, if not themselves cattle thieves, were always ready to harbor these and other criminals. The individual plots...changed hands annually. There was little public security, and the fellahin's lot was an alternation of pillage and blackmail by their neighbors, the Bedouin.


Surprisingly, many people who were not sympathetic to the Zionist cause believed the Jews would improve the condition of Palestinian Arabs. For example, Dawood Barakat, editor of the Egyptian paper Al-Ahram, wrote: "It is absolutely necessary that an entente be made between the Zionists and Arabs, because the war of words can only do evil. The Zionists are necessary for the country: The money which they will bring, their knowledge and intelligence, and the industriousness which characterizes them will contribute without doubt to the regeneration of the country."

Even a leading Arab nationalist believed the return of the Jews to their homeland would help resuscitate the country. According to Sherif Hussein, the guardian of the Islamic Holy Places in Arabia:

The resources of the country are still virgin soil and will be developed by the Jewish immigrants. One of the most amazing things until recent times was that the Palestinian used to leave his country, wandering over the high seas in every direction. His native soil could not retain a hold on him, though his ancestors had lived on it for 1000 years. At the same time we have seen the Jews from foreign countries streaming to Palestine from Russia, Germany, Austria, Spain, America. The cause of causes could not escape those who had a gift of deeper insight. They knew that the country was for its original sons (abna'ihi­l­asliyin), for all their differences, a sacred and beloved homeland. The return of these exiles (jaliya) to their homeland will prove materially and spiritually [to be] an experimental school for their brethren who are with them in the fields, factories, trades and in all things connected with toil and labor.


A Population Boom
As Hussein foresaw, the regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of its population, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.

This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943.

The Arab population increased the most in cities with large Jewish populations that had created new economic opportunities. From 1922­1947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent in Jerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem.

Jewish Land Purchases
Despite the growth in their population, the Arabs continued to assert they were being displaced. The truth is from the beginning of World War I, part of Palestine's land was owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. About 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were debt-ridden peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins.

Jews actually went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as "the most important asset of the native population." Ben-Gurion said "under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them." He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. "Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement," Ben-Gurion added, "should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price."

It was only after the Jews had bought all of this available land that they began to purchase cultivated land. Many Arabs were willing to sell because of the migration to coastal towns and because they needed money to invest in the citrus industry.

When John Hope Simpson arrived in Palestine in May 1930, he observed: "They [Jews] paid high prices for the land, and in addition they paid to certain of the occupants of those lands a considerable amount of money which they were not legally bound to pay."

In 1931, Lewis French conducted a survey of landlessness and eventually offered new plots to any Arabs who had been "dispossessed." British officials received more than 3,000 applications, of which 80 percent were ruled invalid by the Government's legal adviser because the applicants were not landless Arabs. This left only about 600 landless Arabs, 100 of whom accepted the Government land offer.

In April 1936, a new outbreak of Arab attacks on Jews was instigated by a Syrian guerrilla named Fawzi al-Qawukji, the commander of the Arab Liberation Army. By November, when the British finally sent a new commission headed by Lord Peel to investigate, 89 Jews had been killed and more than 300 wounded.

The Peel Commission's report found that Arab complaints about Jewish land acquisition were baseless. It pointed out that "much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased....there was at the time of the earlier sales little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land." Moreover, the Commission found the shortage was "due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population." The report concluded that the presence of Jews in Palestine, along with the work of the British Administration, had resulted in higher wages, an improved standard of living and ample employment opportunities.

In his memoirs, Transjordan's King Abdullah wrote:

It is made quite clear to all, both by the map drawn up by the Simpson Commission and by another compiled by the Peel Commission, that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land as they are in useless wailing and weeping


Even at the height of the Arab revolt in 1938, the British High Commissioner to Palestine believed the Arab landowners were complaining about sales to Jews to drive up prices for lands they wished to sell. Many Arab landowners had been so terrorized by Arab rebels they decided to leave Palestine and sell their property to the Jews.

The Jews were paying exorbitant prices to wealthy landowners for small tracts of arid land. "In 1944, Jews paid between $1,000 and $1,100 per acre in Palestine, mostly for arid or semiarid land; in the same year, rich black soil in Iowa was selling for about $110 per acre."

By 1947, Jewish holdings in Palestine amounted to about 463,000 acres. Approximately 45,000 of these acres were acquired from the Mandatory Government; 30,000 were bought from various churches and 387,500 were purchased from Arabs. Analyses of land purchases from 1880 to 1948 show that 73 percent of Jewish plots were purchased from large landowners, not poor fellahin. Those who sold land included the mayors of Gaza, Jerusalem and Jaffa. As'ad el­Shuqeiri, a Muslim religious scholar and father of PLO chairman Ahmed Shuqeiri, took Jewish money for his land. Even King Abdullah leased land to the Jews. In fact, many leaders of the Arab nationalist movement, including members of the Muslim Supreme Council, sold land to Jews.

Mitchell Bard

Sadly, the Israelis are in a permanent state of war with their "neighbors." Any concession they make will only lead to a demand for more. The only way to deal with an enemy is from a position of strength.It makes many, perhaps most, people in the west very uncomfortable to know that they have enemies who will fight on as long as the means exist. While this is too bad, it is also very true. Ignoring it will not make it go away.

What Israel needs to do is start executing those murdering terrorist such as Barghouti and his ilk.
in wars of past any one not wearing a uniform was shot and killed on the field as a spy, etc. The muslim countries who are too cowardly for an all out war against Israel, US etc, will have their surrogates killed where ever found.

The bulk of the Palestinians we know today were landless peasants. The land they lived on was owned largely by absentee rich Arabs who lived in elsewhere in the Arab world. This basically worthless land, of swap and sand dunes, was sold to Jews by its Arabs owners at huge rates. Jews bought worthless land from Arabs at $1,000 an acre when the best farm land in the world in Kansas was selling for $100 an acre. Jews drained the swamps, since malaria was the biggest killer in the region, and made the deserts bloom.

In 1936, the Mufti of Jerusalem incited a riot against the British, killing many Jews in the process, because the British who ruled Palestine at the time, passed a law stating that ARABS COULD NO LONGER SELL LAND TO JEWS, and the Arabs were upset that the huge profits they were making on worthless land was temporarily taken away.

The Arab thought was that they could sell the land to Jews who would spend the time, money and effort to develop it, unlike the lazy Palestinian and Arabs, into something of value and then they could just take it away later by force since they outnumbered Jews 50-1. They thought it would be easy enough. It didn't work and after the 1967 war, the poor, poor, Arab Palestinian Myth was created by Arabs as a PR campaign to gain what they could not win on the battlefield even though they pulled out all the stops and attacked Israel in 1973 with a combined force equal to the NATO forces in Europe.

The worldwide left, lead by the MSM, propagated this myth of Arab Palestinians being oppressed and occupied by the Israelis when the fact of the matter is the Arabs have kept the Palestinians living in squallar camps as a PR play, instead of giving them other worthless land in the vast vacant Arab controlled countries to live on and funding the development of the land with their vast oil revenues.

The left has been spouting nonesense about the landless Arab Palestinians being occupied for so long that the easily fooled little socialist piggies actually believe this totally fabribicated Palestinian Myth and now have no need of facts. But they still get in the way.

And why palestinians are suicide bombing? . this by poster Averroes, you have to be a little more accurate, it is only the "Muslim palestianinas" who practice murder by suicide bombing.
l for the hell of cannot understand the workding of "Suicide bombing" when these monsters go out and kill other people who are innoncent unarmed civilians.. but because their carcass is sent off to their devil god allah, its called suicide bombing!
Aveerroes you need to educate yourself a whole lot more. you need to stop this ridiculous victim by being a palestianians.. they are wretched because their own people chose for them to be that way, they themselves will kill their own faster than any Israeli soldier ever has.

Barghouti is Arafat's henchman. Barghouti stepped up terror everytime Arafat announced 'being against all forms of terror'. And Israel still hasn't executed him. Go figure!

No doubt Bhargouti's warped concept will be adopted by the equally bent and twisted lefties in our society, who would reason that "fighting crime creates more crime" and "fighting against Islamic terror just creates more Isalmic terror"....

Averroes to Swami: What I really find funny is the way how you equate the palestinian cause with the islamist terrorists cause else where.

Guess you never heard of the 'lesser jihad' and the 'greater jihad'. Do a little homework...

Your not a muslim...could have fooled me. If not that you are a clueless liberal leftist. Read Shivas posts about the Palestinian myth...learn something...Go to www.Smoothstone.blogspot.com and tell Smooth all about the poor 'Palestinian people' that you understand so well...

Canada's CBC television network, a publicly owned broadcaster, recently in a report, showed great sympathy for this Arab Samir Qantar, a monster of extreme ugliness.

Honest Reporting Canada was so outraged with the CBC's inversion of truth, that it dealt with it on its Web site at:

"CBC Portrays Terrorist as Victim"

http://www.honestreporting.ca/English/page-1-262-1.html

"during a one-and-a-half hour meeting Wednesday with MK Taleb El-Sana"

My question is why are there Muslims in the Israeli government?

The fox guarding the henhouse? National suicide.