Update to this story: "Spies reject ‘Bin Laden is dead’ claim," from the TimesOnline, with thanks to all who sent this in:
PRESIDENT Jacques Chirac ordered an investigation last night into the leaking of a French intelligence report that suggested Osama Bin Laden, the Al-Qaeda leader, may have died from typhoid in Pakistan last month.The eight-line document, which was published yesterday in a French provincial newspaper, L’Est Républicain, was greeted with scepticism by security and government officials from the United States to Pakistan itself.
Yet the DGSE, the French secret service, had judged the report significant enough to send it on September 21 to the offices of Chirac and the prime minister, Dominique de Villepin. The report claimed that “a usually trustworthy source“ had persuaded the Saudi secret service Bin Laden was dead.
“The head of Al-Qaeda, while he was in Pakistan on August 23, 2006, reportedly suffered a very strong case of typhoid which led to a partial paralysis of his lower limbs. His geographical isolation, caused by a permanent flight, reportedly made any medical assistance impossible,“ the report said.
Intelligence of Bin Laden’s supposed death apparently reached Saudi security services on September 4. “They are said to be awaiting additional details, and in particular the exact location of his final resting place, to announce the news officially," the report said.
Chirac said after a summit with President Vladimir Putin of Russia and Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, that Bin Laden’s death had not been confirmed in any way. “I was a bit surprised to see a confidential note from the DGSE had been published,” he added. He told his defence minister to find out how it had happened.
Aftab Khan Sherpao, Pakistan’s interior minister, responded to questions about Bin Laden last night by saying: “We have no such information. I have never heard anything about this.”
Intelligence officials in America and Asia insisted they would have known about the report if it had been true, and said no such information had crossed their desks in recent days. One Washington-based official said: “I don’t think this is a piece of information that would remain secret for long — no one would have any interest in keeping it quiet.”
A source with indirect links to Al-Qaeda claimed Bin Laden had been seen alive by one of his commanders earlier this month.
This guy is getting to be like Sasquatch.
It doesn't matter if he's dead or not. He's a glorious hero in just about every Muslim's mind. He's an inspiration for them, he set them back on the true path of Islam, showed them what being Muslim is all about. His memory and deeds will live on.
Before 9/11, few knew of this OBL or cared. Few knew much about Islam or cared. Not only did he cause a spectacular show of what Islam is all about - mass murder - but has caused the West to kowtow to mewlings and threats of the Muslim. A true hero of Islam. A mass-murderer just like the founder of that war cult.
Maybe he's undead?
"This guy is getting to be like Sasquatch."
I would hazard that most people would actually like to see Sasquatch, and that intelligent people would like to know that there are multiples. Conversely, I doubt many rational people want UBL to ever be seen alive again, by anybody, and certainly would not want more of him!
- recalled
Actually.. they have no reason to proclaim its death publicly since it would be a victory for Our efforts in the pursuit of this devil..
If he dies a natural death he is weakened in the eyes of his followers.. NOT quite the heroic martyr now is he?
This muddled trickle of information would also serve to contain glee and joy in the WESTERN WORLD.
In my mind it would stand to reason that this beast died somewhere in a cave.. on the run.. hunted.. and we should rejoice in his death!
They just lost a mastermind and financeer as well as the symbol of their jihad against us.
He dies not in battle - but as a hunted cockroach.
MUCH better than having this dirtbag captive and on trial in the USA.. with ACLU and lawyers taking up its cause..
Just look at the shenanigans that Saddam Hussein is perpetrating at his trial in Iraq. And look at the American sedititionists like Ramsey Clarke jumping to his defence!
I am inclined to think this vermin died an ignoble death indeed.. succumbing to illness and always on the run.. like a mongrel dog in he street.
NO GLORY of dying in a gun battle. Nor enjoying the public forum of being put on trial in the USA with the ACLU and other seditionists at his side!
THIS is truly the best way of all for this bitch to die... we will WEAR you down.. we WILL pursue you.. hunt you.. never again shall you have the comforts of human progress WHICH WE HAVE INVENTED AND CREATED such as a hot shower.. a clean toilet.. running water.. clean fresh sheets.. such simple yet so very unattainable comforts for these terrorists.. The rest of them will have NO propaganda gain from its death. Obviously their demon g*d forsake their grandiose hero and allowed him to perish as a hunted animal.
Where was alla when OBL needed him most? Either alla is not as evil as we think or alla simply doesn't exist.
Oh, this is such a cruel world for these mufti-bots indeed!
NO VIRGINS either since he always sent others to do the dirty work and the dying for his eveil cause!
OBL has failed his non-existent g*d.. or maybe his g*d is not in agreement with his ways and means?
Either way... what a demoralizing way to go, don't you think?
The almighty GOD finally stepped on this cockroach! such poetic justice!
I saw the World Trade Center burn with my own eyes. I was people jump off to avoid that fiery hell they were faced with.. I smelled the burning flesh for weeks and these memories shall stay with me forever. I was helpless seeing these people choosing to jump to their death rather than being burned... some even holding hands as they met their final moments.
It gives me a sad empty joy knowing this hateful coward is finally gone from this World!
I can't help but think of what I saw on that dreadful day. Justice has finally come to this Enemy of ALL Mankind! With all his wealth - why didn't he BUILD UP the countries he claimed to care so much about?
Bill Gates is using his resources to BETTER his countrymen! WHY did this fool invest in death and destruction? All the oil money coming to these countries and yet all they do is plan jihad and bitch and moan about the HAND THAT FEEDS THEM!
EVEN if they should ever win and their ideology should take over globally.. WHO will grow the corn to feed them? WHO will build the plans to fly in? WHO will maintain the internet and WHO will write great music and WHO will create astounding works of art..? WHO will be left to advance all of Mankind toward our Destiny should these ignoble hordes ever rule this planet of ours?
Today is indeed a WONDERFUL DAY!! I, for one believe this snake has finally succumbed to its hunters.
I am an agnostic.. BUT I do believe in some form of a Higher Power.. and today my faith has been confirmed!
GOD made ALL of us in His/Her image but S/He knew it was time to pull the plug.
THEY are the infidels... the unbelievers.. WE believe in love and goodness and in treating each other as GOD [whether S/He exists or is merely a human ideal] intended and ordained us to do. See the 10 Commandments. I've never been religious in any way but I always considered religion to be a bearer of Moral Code designed to establish inviolable Principles of Conduct and Ethics. It took me years to reaslie that islam is the VERY opposite of that DIVINE and universal Code.
It is simply something one refuses to grasp.. which is where I think many of our Liberal friends are stuck.. We are looking for goodness in ALL our fellow Wo/Men and we simply CANNOT believe that there are so many misguided people in this world!
It is truly sad to realize that WE MUST INDEED TAKE UP ARMS to fight this common enemy of ours. This hesitancy and our moral grounding is misunderstood as weakness by our ruthless enemy.
Even GOD who allows Mankind the direst and worst of transgressions against others of His/Her creation is likely shocked and dismayed by how easliy some of the Flock can fail Him/Her time and time again..
Did we not think the Holocaust would be Man's final transgression against the Will of the Almighty? Did we not reason that "NEVER AGAIN" meant ALL OF US?!
The Jews must be HIS Chosen indeed.. the disciples of satan always seem to go for them first - before they move on to the Rest of Us.
Kind of like the Canary in the Coal Mine, isn't it?
Think about it, mohamedans.. think about it very carefully.. consider not only the military but also the MORAL history of Germany!
60 years removed and yet Germany is still not healed from her sins. Nor is Turkey for what she did to the Armenians. Maybe that is why these two countries have each other?
Just so you know, muftis.. You may feel emboldened and confident right now.. BUT.. GOD IS ON THE SIDE OF GOOD AND GOD IS AGAINST THE KILLING OF ANY OF HIS CHILDREN!
You are committing a grave sin, I am telling you. Consider your actions very carefully. THINK about what you are doing in this world before you transgress even further against the WILL of our CREATOR.
WHY do you think S/he put all of us here? I believe so we could realize our common Divine origin and treat one another as Children of GOD. In HIS IMAGE.. ALL OF US! Do you really think GOD wants us to annihilate one another?
GOD wants us to realize our common Divine origin ON OUR OWN - BUT I know S/he will interfere if things get too out of hand.
NO WAY the Almighty will ever allow what you have in mind.
GOODBYE bin Laden!
For Jihadists and Jihadist apologists, an alive OBL is the best distraction possible. As long as OBL is alive, any terror attack or support for terror can somehow be attributed to OBL and Al-Qaeda, even if the attacker never had any ties to them.
When OBL dies, and the terror attacks continue, the world may finally begin to realize that OBL is not Hitler: literal Islam (or Islamism or Islamofascism or whatever you feel like calling it) is the problem, not OBL.
OBL's fate probably is to become an Islamic Igor, always raising from the death, with attendant 'Elvis' sightings, whenever the going gets rough for the moonbats. Dead or alive, Sheik Bin Laden will always be with us.
I say, if he is dead, we immediately dig him up and shoot him again. Just so we can feel good about it.
However, he is mostly relevant as an idea.
His life or death is not central to the issue of our day -
how do we identify and oppose the challenge of our times,
islam -
let's get back to the important issue after we bury him the second time.
Quote: "If he dies a natural death he is weakened in the eyes of his followers.. NOT quite the heroic martyr now is he?" - germaninamerica
Dying like a cockroach on the run in a cave is about as fitting death under the ever watchful eye of Allah knowing everything. What went wrong? He's dead, insh'allah.
What is puzzling about OBL's 'leaked' death or undeath is why don't they know? If they can't even get a fix on his position, how can they assess whether or not the story is true? How can we believe authorities with political agendas contradicting 'leaked' secret service information when the authorities are so vague as to his whereabouts? In this case, I'd believe the leaks first, authorities second, with a 60-40 in favor of secret service. Though, only Allah knows for sure what his obedient son is doing in his vermin cave.
Nothing heroic, rather ignoble death. Maybe Allah has a sense of humor after all. Bad for OBL not dying in battle, no virgins for cockroaches on the run. Allah's not that merciful. Now let's get at the truth, or is he like the disappearing 12th immam, who in a thousand years will suddenly reappear from some Afghani cave? Exhume the body and dispose of it 'properly,' Oink oinks buried sati style. He deserves no less.
Oh, believe me, Pakistan is making a lot more money off the Bin Laden hunt than Sasquatch tours could ever net them.
Even if he does really die, the Pakistanis won't ever admit it, since he's the Golden Goose that lays the Golden Eggs. They'll be fielding Bin Laden lookalikes well into the future, like Elvis impersonators in Vegas.
Anyone called the American Hospital in Dhubai yet? the Bin laden wing?
I don't think he's dead. If he was, they'd be screaming and howling in the streets.
I have credible information that OBL is alive, coming from journalist Hamid Mir, via the Northeast Intelligence Network & the Canada Free Press, exclusive:
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2006/09/bin-laden-alive-in-pakistan-preparing.html
The link is at my post, which has my own commentary.
I've been following the news on the "American Hiroshima" plan of OBL's, which has been completed and is ready, unfortunately, according to Mr. Mir.
AQ nuclear jihadist Adnan el Shukrijumah is said to be in the United States awaiting his orders and has already been ordered to "increase the level and scope" of the attack, which is expected to be nuclear in nature and larger than 9/11.
Keep your eyes open.
So, there's still hope that UBL will end up with pork fat shot into his veins--since he doesn't think that the blood of others on his hands isn't pollution enough before God.
Bin Laden probably did not die of typhoid-even germs wouldn't want to get close to this smelly,disgusting raghead.
Old age,accident or a well placed bullet will get this piece of poop. But for now, the supreme loser is probably still alive.
Damn, how many times can that pond scum NOT die before he actually becomes worm food...??
Germaninamerica, you speak such truth and great wisdom in your post above, so much that I can't repost all to comment on, but your words made an impact, and my thoughts are much the same, but you said it more eloquently.
When I first heard the story Bin Laden supposedly died a month ago, I was reminded of Tora Bora, and how the Taliban created a ruse to allow Bin Laden to escape. I also remembered how Bin Laden sent a suicide bomber posing as a journalist to kill Ahmed Shah Massoud, Northern Alliance leader a day or so before 9/11. It was an odd thing to let you know something was up or about to happen. Then I am reminded of the recent interview Hamid Mir had with an Al Qaeda commander Sept. 12 warning Muslims to leave NYC and Washington immediately that an attack was near, and the warning cycle had been fullfilled. Hamid Mir said Bin Laden was in Afghanistan a month ago for a meeting. So, something is up and I believe this story is a ruse. I believe we're about to be attacked with a dirty bomb, and Saudi security is saying Bin Laden is dead so we won't retaliate by bombing Pakistan where Bin Laden is hiding. That is just my humble opinion and hopefully I am very wrong.
Okay, let's think about this:
Sure, the Saudis distance themselves from Osama... yet they would fund him in a heartbeat and have funded others like him "under the table". This is the home of Wahabi. This is the birthplace of terrorism. This is where his family's roots are. Though they publicly disown him, this is his home nation. If he came to them for help, do you think they'd turn him away?
But to report him dead, then accept him in with open arms... That seems more plausible. After all, the Saudis govern the oil markets. Would the US or anyone else dare question the Saudis if they were to tell us or to give us "proof" of his "deceased" status?
Speaking of Osama, watching Bill Clinton today on FNS was a hoot. He was more hostile than he had ever been - all that legendary velvet glove was off.
Ol' bin Looney Tunes will be dead when I finish with him!