Eurodhimmis nix landing rights for El Al planes with IDF cargo

Alleged friends of Israel cower before the jihadist specter. "Europe nixes landing rights for El Al planes with IDF cargo," from Haaretz, with thanks to all who sent this in:

A number of European states are refusing to allow El Al cargo planes carrying Israel Defense Forces equipment from stopover landings in their airports.

The refusal came from states considered friendly with Israel, including Britain, Germany and Italy, according to Captain Etai Regev, the chairman of El Al's pilots' union.

Regev sent a letter of complaint on the matter to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and to the Defense Ministry, the Finance Ministry, and the Tourism Ministry.

According to Regev, El Al flights bearing heavy loads that arrive from U.S. bases "are not given approval by European states to make stopover landings for refueling, for political reasons.

"As a result, cargo planes are taking off from the U.S. with much lighter weight, and are reaching Israel with significantly fewer munitions than needed."

Regev called this "a substantial blow to state defense."

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it's obvious that our diplomatic relations with these EU member states are not worth very much. So we could pressure them in return by making it more difficult to aid their PLO Arab pets in the "palestinian authority" and by refusing to see them taking part in the UN's Lebanon force.

I wouldn't call them Eurodhimmis.

Euroshmucks, that's more like it.

Anyone reading this might think Resolution 1701 calls for the disarming of Israel rather than Hizbullah. So much for UNIFIL stopping arms reaching the Lebanese militias - now we know whose side these dhimmis are on. Did someone mention Useful Idiots?

This comes as no surprise. Just last summer I was among the unfortunate ones singled out for extra scrutiny at Shannon Airport in Ireland. At first, the attendant apologized for the inconvenience. I quickly responded that I did not mind at all, and that we all need to be much more vigilant considering the enormity of the threat we face. To which she promptly replied: "We shouldn't need to worry about terrorists here. The problem is all your planes that stop here to refuel. We're supposed to be neutral!"

Reading things like this leads me to believe that you get what you deserve. The EU deserves to lose a couple of countries during the global jihad at the very least. I have a feeling they will...

Pick the wrong side and deal with the consequences.

OT: It has been reported that the sunni's are expanding their war on shiite to Pakistan. What if they expand that war to the US. There are a lot of shiites in Dearborn, Mi.
Heck, where I work, their are shiites business on each side of me. Oh well, thank God, the my building use to be an old time bank building, it can provide some protection.

Despicable behavior, but predictable: Too many big construction contracts from the UAE, Kuwait & the Saudi's. The threat to miss out just doesn't compare with supporting Israel.

Morals? Not that the French or anyone else should be concerned...

It will all come to bite them in the ass in the end, but for now they are in it for the money. The Bush government doesn't exactly lead as an example of morality either...

Ping-pong, what's going on?

Europe denies barring El Al landings.

I am aghast. I voted for Merkel - hoping our foreign policy would improve. It seemed to do so. But this decision is a crying shame. I'm so dissapointed.

But though the word "Eurodhimmis" often is adequate, I don't think that this is an act of dhimmitude. Unfortunately this is what Europeans want to be themselves: Neutral. Or : Spineless and proud of it.

Once to every man and nation
comes the moment to decide
in the strife of truth with falseness
for the good or evil side....

I was attacked of being "as fanatic as the terrorists" when I wrote these lines in a German forums ( I knew it would be considered a provocation - that's why I did it). The 'Euro-religion' teaches that there is no good and no evil side and that those, who are differently minded, are hateful warmongers - the only evil people being all those who fight and the only good people being those who do not support any fighting side (and the poor poor Muslim civilians of course, they are good people as well). This attitude seems to be mainstream.

Israel and the USA should not rely on Eurabia. I feel so sorry to have to say that.

The very states which forbid Israeli self defence weapons are those that allow fund raising for Hamas and Hezbollah.

If we don't fight Islam in the deserts of Southern Lebanon we will be fighting it on the banks of the Thames, believe me. We will win but at a greater cost. Those who could have assisted Israel should be reminded at a later date when the balloon goes up, I am sure there will be sympathetic lampposts for the dhimmis.

Shy Guy:
That JPost article was pretty ambiguous. What, for example, did the Brits mean by saying they have specific regulations for arms shipments?

At this rate, the only solution will be to have El Al cargo planes refuel in mid-air by USAF tanker jets based in Europe (if this is technically feasible).

Threaten to cut off imports of euro autos and aircraft, and wine, and then we'll see.

Use our leverage while we still have it.

This article, and the one in the Jerusalem Post, is not the entire truth - about the British stance anyway. Special cargo planes (i.e. those carrying munitions and anything that could be useful to moslem terrorists) are refuelled at RAF airfields not at civilian airports because security is tighter at military fields.

Some El Al pilots have complained about this because they have had to learn new airport layouts and new protocols in order to deal with the closed-to-civilian-flights airspace (restricted airspace, the UK calls it) around the RAF 'fields.

Separating munitions and weapons flights from civilian flights and airports strikes me as a good idea at the present time, but it does not mean that the UK is denying refuelling rights to such aeroplanes.

Were the United States to insist that its natural and most valuable ally, in the Middle East, should be made a member of NATO, or if not formally a member, then to announce that it will enter into a bilateral agreement with Israel essentially forging an alliance similar to that of NATO (is Belgium, is Spain, a more effective opponent of Jihad than Israel, for so long the lightning-rod and deflecter of Arab Muslim energies, until the OPEC money and Muslim immigrants in the West increased the power, and expanded the goals, of those engaged in violent Jihad), and that, furthermore, other members of NATO were invited to join such an alliance. If however, a NATO member chose neither to join this new alliance, nor to extend to Israel the kind of support it deserves from fellow members of what was once the Western alliance, then the American government would cut off from access not only to the technological fruits of American-Israeli military coopeation, but even to the latest military advances by the Americans alone. There is, after all, some concern about Muslim penetration of the armed forces and security services in Western Europe, a concern that will only grow. There is no such concern about the armed forces and security services of Israel.

What is my country thinking of?
We should be supporting Israel in every way we can.
Look what other madness we have today:
http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=381
This is all madness.

Hugh sez:

"...There is, after all, some concern about Muslim penetration of the armed forces and security services in Western Europe, a concern that will only grow. There is no such concern about the armed forces and security services of Israel..."

Sure there is. So is a lot of airport-personnel all over Europe, especially France & Germany.
But isn't the US-armed forces infiltrated by Mohammedans too? Do you see those posing a lesser threat?

I foresee these events in Europe:

1. Black-Red Alliance in most western Europe with Sweden, the Netherlands, France being the first countries to have such an Alliance

2. The black-Red Alliance slowly starts to pressure Europe to witdraw all relations with Israel

3. The Trans-atlantic rift gets even larger; NATO starts to fall apart

4. Anti-American, ISrael attacks increase; Europeans make certain deals to prevent attacks on themselves

5. NATO dissolves as Europe breaks all ties with Israel

Change is good in some cases. Regime change in Frankistan will clear the mauvais aère as some might adroitly put it.

Let's clear the air. Let France fall and let Sweden become a collection of armed camps, taking on the jarring aesthetic that a mixture of Ikea dinnerware and hammered brass cous cous dipping dishes would bring to the eye at an ecumenical dinner.

It will be good for the world to have things simply stated once again.

The best thing that could happen in Pakistan is the same thing - let President Pervez Musharraf take the long walk home. It makes our choices much simpler. A fractured France makes the choice simple for the EU. The Free World needs the clarity that catastrophe brings. This is the inertia of human nature and is reflected in the old stories time and time again. Tragedy will start the immovable object on its way toward what seems to be, for now, the irresistible force.

Catastrophe works like nothing else.

Joel 3
God Is a Safe Hiding Place
1-3 "In those days, yes, at that very time when I put life back together again for Judah and Jerusalem,
I'll assemble all the godless nations.
I'll lead them down into Judgment Valley
And put them all on trial, and judge them one and all
because of their treatment of my own people Israel.
They scattered my people all over the pagan world
and grabbed my land for themselves.
They threw dice for my people
and used them for barter.
They would trade a boy for a whore,
sell a girl for a bottle of wine when they wanted a drink.

4-8 "As for you, Tyre and Sidon and Philistia,
why should I bother with you?
Are you trying to get back at me
for something I did to you?
If you are, forget it.
I'll see to it that it boomerangs on you.
You robbed me, cleaned me out of silver and gold,
carted off everything valuable to furnish your own temples.
You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem
into slavery to the Greeks in faraway places.
But I'm going to reverse your crime.
I'm going to free those slaves.
I'll have done to you what you did to them:
I'll sell your children as slaves to your neighbors,
And they'll sell them to the far-off Sabeans."
God's Verdict.

9-11 Announce this to the godless nations:
Prepare for battle!
Soldiers at attention!
Present arms! Advance!
Turn your shovels into swords,
turn your hoes into spears.
Let the weak one throw out his chest
and say, "I'm tough, I'm a fighter."
Hurry up, pagans! Wherever you are, get a move on!
Get your act together.
Prepare to be
shattered by God!

12Let the pagan nations set out
for Judgment Valley.
There I'll take my place at the bench
and judge all the surrounding nations.

13"Swing the sickle—
the harvest is ready.
Stomp on the grapes—
the winepress is full.
The wine vats are full,
overflowing with vintage evil.

14"Mass confusion, mob uproar—
in Decision Valley!
God's Judgment Day has arrived
in Decision Valley.

15-17"The sky turns black,
sun and moon go dark, stars burn out.
God roars from Zion, shouts from Jerusalem.
Earth and sky quake in terror.
But God is a safe hiding place,
a granite safe house for the children of Israel.
Then you'll know for sure
that I'm your God,
Living in Zion,
my sacred mountain.
Jerusalem will be a sacred city,
posted: 'no trespassing.'
Milk Rivering Out of the Hills
18-21 "What a day!
Wine streaming off the mountains,
Milk rivering out of the hills,
water flowing everywhere in Judah,
A fountain pouring out of God's Sanctuary,
watering all the parks and gardens!
But Egypt will be reduced to weeds in a vacant lot,
Edom turned into barren badlands,
All because of brutalities to the Judean people,
the atrocities and murders of helpless innocents.
Meanwhile, Judah will be filled with people,
Jerusalem inhabited forever.
The sins I haven't already forgiven, I'll forgive."
God has moved into Zion for good.

European Friends: If ever there was a time to rouse yourselves and rail against your heinous lethal leadership, the time is NOW! You are not some decaying carcasse, although the Muslim Vulture thinks of you that way. Peer into your own futures and FIGHT to avoid this preventable doom!

The Waste Land by T. S. Eliot begins with this epigraph translated from incomprehensible (to me) Latin and Greek:

I have seen with my own eyes the Sibyl hanging in a jar, and when the boys asked her "What do you want?" She answered,
"I want to die."

The Sibyls were Greek Women who were given the gift of prophecy by Apollo. They also asked him for immortality, but forgot to ask for perpetual youth -- I guess they didn't look into their own future too carefully, because they would have seen themselves withering away for eternity if they had...

I never fully understood T.S. Eliot's imponderable epigraph until now: Europe wants to die, despairing of her supposed crimes, yearning for her former glory days, forgetting her splendid legacy and her sacred trust, she seems convinced that the end is near, and that nothing is worth fighting for... What rancid pessimism!

FIGHT AGAINST IT! It's a great good to make war on your mortal enemies! Somehow your leaders have forgotten this truth.

I hate to say this, coming from the UK as well but the imposition of visas and quotas coming from the UK to the US may just bring the village idiots in Whitehall to their senses but i am somehow doubtful.

This would send a clear message that if the UK has allowed the country to be used as a hotbed for Islamist terrorism, a sort of Waziristan-on-sea, it should be expected that the US has an obligation to look after their own people.

If the UK and EU is unable or unwilling to curtail Islamic fundamentalists then they are not in a position to fulfil their obligations to the international community an ineffectual government is as bad as having no government whatsoever, the strongest and most threatening groups are the de facto leaders.

European Friends: If ever there was a time to rouse yourselves and rail against your heinous lethal leadership, the time is NOW!

Thank you for the encouragement. Some of us do. We don't burn flags in the streets, pick off politicians and firebomb buildings of couse ;-) -so it seems as if we did nothing at all. Indeed we do the same as you do here at JihadWatch: informing and warning.

Unfortunately our leadership is not the only problem - there are many fellow citizens who are even worse than the leadership. The Eurabia project is more than 30 years old now : the anti-American and anti-Israeli brainwashing has worked.

Sometimes it seems to be depressively useless. But whe WILL NOT STOP.

Eisvogel -- I read BBC online "Have your say" on "How has the world changed since the 9/11 attacks?"... Truly disturbing... The phenomenon of mass psychosis is world wide, and deeply entrenched. We all must fight these insane citizens, they are nearly as dangerous as the Jihadis themselves given the resources they siphon off, the interference they run for the terrorists, and the excuses and insane conspiracies and distortions they gin up for the delectation of the Muslims of the world...

Here are some typical comments:

"I think at last the world is beginning to stand up against the aggression of the US and Israel, which has always been there but now is shameless. Despite both countries' huge advantage in firepower, they are losing the wars which they started. That is the only thing which gives me hope that this dark period in the world's history will end before all our rights have been taken away in the name of the phoney war on terror.

Mike R, London, United Kingdom

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Very small minorities, fundamentalists of all stripes lurking in every community have created a culture of fear in Canada, the US, UK and a handful of other countries in Western Europe. I speak of: (1) Bush and buddies (2) of passengers conspiring to have people of colour removed from planes, (3) general mistrust of people "who appear to be of Middle Eastern origin" (50% of the planet's population!). Etc. Very few people, a handful of misguided youths have actually been proven guilty of "terror" crimes, the definition of which is ballooning daily. In the USA, a guy could not board a plane till he removed his "We will not be silent" T-shirt. Welcome to the free world!!!

Rachana R, Vancouver, Canada

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World has changed for the worst. Before 9/11 Westerners were not unsafe now they are unsafe.. if the response was composure and measured world would today been a different place but when US & Britain showed their emotions and pounded and persecuted any or every muslim they found and ridiculed their religion it created a gulf which I dont think will close in.. in centuries.
World has changed and it is never going to be the same

Siraj Ahsan, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

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Things have definitely changed since 9/11. Now I fear George Bush and his deputies more than Osama bin Laden.

[marie_g], Coles Bay, Australia

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Instead of using 9/11 to try and reconcile differences between nations, Americans, specifically Bush and his league of warmongerers have used it as a will to power and profit. I guess in 6-7000 years of advanced civilization nothing has really changed.

They have become the very enemy they sought to eliminate, and have brought upon more suffering and hardship then any hijackers could have possibly imagined. For an administration that claims to espouse Christian beliefs they have not acted anywhere along any sort of moral or ethical code.

5 years on we are still told people still hate us for our freedom. I say Bush and company hate us for our intelligence.

Joseph, New Jersey

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9/11 was OUR FAULT, caused by OUR POLICIES. WE are the TERRORISTS. The Peace loving Muslims are the true victims.

A sickness is abroad. A fatal disease worse than cancer.

to Rachana R, Vancouver, Canada, you should pull your head out of your butt before speaking or commenting on something you clearly no nothing about! Someone please correct me if I am wrong but doesn't it seem that most of the garbage spilling out of leftist mouths like this woman's comes from the mouths of women? I know, I know, there are plenty of proud, patriotic women in the U.S. and Israel, but when I read or hear cowardly comments like her's, they come from the mouths of women! I include Mike R. London of England in this lot because he(she) fits the mold nicely. I know there are a lot of people in Canada who would rather stink in their own filth than stand up for right, but in England!?! I live there for several years in the late '80s, and while I had a hard time understanding why most Brits couldn't figure out what a bar of soap was used for, I never doubted their resolve when it came to defending their freedom. Perhaps Rachana will regret her words when her muslim masters stone her to death for daring to speak in public or Mike R. when his muslim owner rapes him for 100th time. Of course, they both might enjoy this.