A revealing look at the worldview of the Iranian ruling elite from Iran Focus: "Iran says U.S., Israel ordered September 11 attacks"
Tehran, Iran, Sep. 06 - The Supreme Commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps accused the Bush Administration and the Israeli security service Mossad of ordering the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and Washington, DC.
"The events of September 11 were ordered by U.S. [officials] and Mossad so that they could carry out their strategy of pre-emption and warmongering and unipolarisation in order to dominate the Middle East", Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi told military commanders on Tuesday. His comments were reported by the state-run news agency ISNA.
General Safavi said that Iran was the leading force of the "Islamic world". "The geographic heart of the Islamic world is in Mecca and Medina. But, the political heart of the Islamic world is in the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Supreme Leader [Ayatollah Ali Khamenei] is the flag-bearer of the front of Islamic awakening and the fronts of the awakening of third world nations", he said.
Accusing Washington of delusions of grandeur while airing his own.
He said that Washington had been defeated in its strategy of "attacking Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon" and creating a new order in the Middle East.
"The U.S.’s neo-conservative strategy was to dominate the vast energy resources of the Persian Gulf in order to be able to control Europe, China, and India and drive the world to a unipolar state. Therefore, it planned to change undesirable regimes such as those of Iraq, Sudan, Syria, and Afghanistan".
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He described Washington and Tel Aviv as two "inter-continental threats" against Tehran. "The U.S. must be livid at Iran because of its disgraceful defeats in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon. Regarding [Iran’s] nuclear dossier, it might try to create circumstances so that slowly but surely economic and political pressure is applied against Iran by the [United Nations] Security Council".
He accused Washington of plotting a "cultural" attack on Tehran by setting up new radio and television stations broadcasting into Iran, supporting dissident groups, and stepping up intelligence operations. "Therefore, the armed forces must be completely prepared in order to combat any forms of foreign and domestic threats", he said.
He charged that Britain and the U.S. were stirring ethnic and religious divisions in Iran, in particular in the provinces close to the country’s frontiers.
The IRGC’s primary task is to export the Islamic revolution to Jerusalem via Baghdad.
Hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is one of many officials who stem from the IRGC.
More like the political ass.
This what I have said all along..I believe Bin laden and Iran are working as one...To rid Mecca of the Royal Family and the Middle East of Israel..I wish we did more to inform of the Jihad and less of the Bush bashing...Yesterday was disgusting.
To all those good folks who've been following, and commenting in, the Bunglawala threads on Al Ghurardian:
I was The EmperorsClothesBoy.
I say "was" because I've been banned which is why I haven't been able to get back at that pr**k Berchmanns. Nearly all of every post I made have been pulled as well (including the ones on Ghannoushi's thread).
That's my second banning (different names, servers and e-mail providers each time). I've now installed Opera and have an Opermail e-mail account to add to my other two server and e-mail accounts. Going for a hat-trick.
I'm back in now with a third name. If you know what Sir Henry Morgan's enemies used to call him, you'll know who I am. I've done a couple of gentle test posts, so I know I'm back in for sure.
Please - join us in the trashings on the threads about the Dark side. I've taken to calling Islam "the Dark Side" and moslems as "the Sith". I've got Bed Linen down as the Sith Lord, and Imadinnerjacket as the Sith Lord's apprentice.
Please do come to the nearest thing we have in Britland to JW:
http://uppompeii.blogspot.com/
I post there with the same name I use here. As do a couple of others.
In Britland, we need all the help we can get, our free speech culture, such as it is, is not a patch on what you've got in Americaland.
The trigger for my banning - I think - was my posting of a link from Apostates of Islam, of their stoning video; then when it was pulled, I reposted it. They - the Sith, and al Ghurardian - don't like hard evidence of the savagery of the Dark Side because it can't be argued against - it's there, right in front of their eyes. They prefer to keep it in words only where the Sith can make their denials and engage in their al taqiyyah.
What is terrifying is that I've heard people here say the same sort of thing. Yet I am sure if you bring it up, they would get offended at the comparison.
Iranians need to shuck off the smelly Ayatollahs and the Muhammad cult and return to ---->>
"Zoroastrianism is the oldest of the revealed world-religions, and it has probably had more influence on mankind, directly and indirectly, than any other single faith." - Mary Boyce, Zoroastrians: Their Religious Beliefs and Practices (London: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1979, p. 1)
"Zoroaster was thus the first to teach the doctrines of an individual judgment, Heaven and Hell, the future resurrection of the body, the general Last Judgment, and life everlasting for the reunited soul and body. These doctrines were to become familiar articles of faith to much of mankind, through borrowings by Judaism, Christianity and Islam; yet it is in Zoroastrianism itself that they have their fullest logical coherence....” - Mary Boyce, Op. Cit. p. 29.
Sir Henry
I enjoyed the fragging of Bungle boy. You were too hot to handle and Bungles blog is/was fast turning into an anti Jihad expose due to the weight of the comments. Undoubtedly Bungle boy complained to have posts and posters removed
And I see on Yahho that iran has postponed the meeting with the Europeans.
What a surprise !
Well, by all accounts, that 'heart' might be getting bombed soon.
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts folks on the following:
1. There is a huge European military buildup, including a naval buildup off the shores of Lebanon...
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1208
2. The US is currently conducting military exercises with Pakistan and Benin (exercises with Russia have been postponed). Whilst at the same time, the UK, Poland & Ukraine are conducting military exercises.
http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2081003.php
http://www.andnetwork.com/index?service=direct/0/Africa/$StorySummary$3.titleStory&sp=l51376
http://en.for-ua.com/news/2006/09/05/110017.html
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/05/europe/EU_GEN_Russia_US_Exercises.php
3. A cargo ship that originated in Egypt was intercepted by Cyprus police, was carrying an arms shipment and was bound for a Syrian port.
http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Cyprus_police_discover_arms_on_carg_09062006.html
There is a report in the Christian Science Monitor that says Israel is preparing to strike Iran and Syria...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0905/dailyUpdate.html
Is it possible that Israel and the US felt that enough damage was done to Hezbollah to allow a military strike against Iran and its buddy Syria?
Is it possible that the delay on nuclear talks between the EU and Iran because of a "procedural matter" is buying time for an upcoming strike against Iran?
Anyone hear anything else interesting?
Do you notice they refer to the power as 'the Supreme Leader [Ayatollah Ali Khamenei]' all the time?
Another person used to be called 'the leader' when you translated 'der Fuehrer'.
Nothing sublime in that, just wanted to comment.
Also - some targeting advice when we finally do get going... from a General no less:
General Safavi said that Iran was the leading force of the "Islamic world". "The geographic heart of the Islamic world is in Mecca and Medina. But, the political heart of the Islamic world is in the Islamic Republic of Iran
Also - I sure hope this is true:
He accused Washington of plotting a "cultural" attack on Tehran by setting up new radio and television stations broadcasting into Iran, supporting dissident groups, and stepping up intelligence operations."
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He charged that Britain and the U.S. were stirring ethnic and religious divisions in Iran, in particular in the provinces close to the country’s frontiers.
The part one likes is "stirring ethnic and religious divisions in Iran". Kinda makes one feel good all over.
If its the CIA - kudos, its about time you guys stopped acting like eunichs and did your job. Whoever it is, keep up the good work.
Despite a special fondness for that evil jerk Prince of Saudi Arabia Turki (is that his wife having maid problems ? - does a love of torture and subjugation run in the family ?), it is inconceivable for a Westerner to carry water for either Sunnis or Shias. A plague on both their houses.
Islam is a cult of hate lies and deception.
General Safavi said "... the political heart of the Islamic world is in the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Supreme Leader [Ayatollah Ali Khamenei] is the flag-bearer of the front of Islamic awakening and the fronts of the awakening of third world nations"
I tend to agree with him, but I caution him to consider what Iran is the flag-bearer for, and what it will awaken to, in the light of Ezekiel 38 and 39. "Persia, Ethiopia and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet". Israel will be kept busy, burying the dead invaders in the valley of Hamon-gog.
The very instant 'religon' is used to justify acts of barbarism and inhumanity and conquest against one's citizens and the world community, all hope for a 'peaceful solution' are lost. The only thing, and I say again, the ONLY thing that will change the current course of events is military intervention by the world community against Iran and Syria. I offer the following solutions:
1. Iran cannot be allowed to become a nuclear power as long as religious fanatics are in charge. They must be crippled militarily, economically and politically. How? a. Bomb the critical nuke infrastructure and b. blockage their ports. Nothing comes in, nothing goes out.
2. Iranian religous fanatics have brain washed the bulk of the Iranian people just as the government run indoctrination camps (aka public school) have in the US. In the US, LIBERAL dogma and nanny-state all omnipotent statists have altered the course of America and NOT for the better. (They really do think we can negotiate with people who intend to kill us! Amazing!) We need to return to a 'Bill of Rights' culture. And lastly,
3. It is now time for the world to awaken from it's economic and comforatable slumber and realize that Islam IS the problem and take appropriate steps to control it's spread and infection around the world. (See the article above.)
When I read stuff like this, I start to believe in average IQ of 84 for Iranians. That is more than one standard deviation below Europeans and two standard deviation below that of Ashkenazi jews.
(this har been posted on JW before but worth to review)
(http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/IQBasics.html)
140 and over Genius or near genius
120-140 Very superior intelligence
110-120 Superior intelligence
90-110 Normal or average intelligence
80-90 Dullness
70-80 Borderline deficiency
Below 70 Definite feeble-mindedness
This means that 30% of the Iranians could land below and IQ of 70. Another p.o.w. is that the expected number of Iranians of IQ=169 is 1 (one) while there should be 10 jews in Israel alone with this IQ ;-)
Question is, can you read the Quran (cover to cover) with an IQ of 169?
OT:
A couple of 'stans away from Iran in Kyrgyzstan, a U.S. servicewoman has been reported missing from a shopping mall.
Kyrgystan is almost all Muslim, but I'm thinking this is the work of the radical Presbyterians. Again.
Our thoughts are with her.
Marvin, the sad thing is that a dull or deficient intellect as well as a normal but impaired one can cause a great deal of damage given the right tools... ( drunks in cars = true believers in Sport Utility Vehicles )
A dull minded fellow with an AK-47 can wipe out a whole cafe of Very Superior Intellects.
That is the danger of it all. It's too easy for idiots to kill when they have the same access to firepower.
We've seen that heartwarming "brotherhood" that Muslims show each other, in mosque bombings, market bombings, and roadside car bombings.
But then Britain and U.S. have been stirring up ethnic and religious divisions in Islamic lands for 1,350 years now.
"The IRGC’s primary task is to export the Islamic revolution to Jerusalem via Baghdad."
The "Iron Burka" is falling on Baghdad, (and Brixton, and Bondi) but there is no way it will fall on Jerusalem.
Wouldn't the Saudis, who pride themselves on being the focal point of Islam, have something to say about the above statement from General Safavi?
Special Guest
Kyrgyzstan is an ex-Communist country, that's the most liberal of the Turkistan Republics. As a result, Islamic radicals fleeing Uzbekistan (particularly last year from the Ferghana Valley) have been going there, so it could become the next hotbed of Jihad.
Good thing here is that it's right next door to Xinxiang province in China. So if al Qaeda sends their Uygar divisions there to wage Jihad against China, Beijing could finally decide whether supporting the international Jihad - which it has been doing to date - is a good idea.
Xaragma
That's a great one - Iron Burqha. You might want to register it ;->
Islam has no 'heart', political or otherwise...
Notice how Madhat uses all the left-wing talking points? Even the phrase neo-con. That is something he probably picked up from his reading of the Daily Kos or moveon.org.
Funny isn't it. How moveon.org was established to tell President Clinton's detractors to move on from the Lewinsky scandal. In otherwords, stop harping about the pres.
Yet harping is what the left does best. Indeed, harping is what moveon.org is all about. Nothing but harping about Bush.
Ironic, eh?
We all need to focus on educating people that we are being censored into not telling the truth about islam!
The whole ideology of islam is disgusting and I hear liberals everywhere chanting "oh you can't say this and that!"
Really as already mentioned above, truth is not bigotry or racism. Why can't people accept that we are all being lied to.
If you treat the islamic people like Steve Irwin did to his animals (rest in peace) then these nut jobs will do exactly the same to us given even a small percentage of a chance. The only way to deal with home grown terrorists is either a. shoot them or something like that b. deport them or c. shoot them and deport them! We should also rip down all mosques and ensure that every single muslim takes an oath of allegience to the state of the country that they live in. Any demonstrations, chanting or inciting against the west and back to a, b or c!
Sir Henry Morgan you and people like you are my heroes because I can only mouth off like this on a blog because if I were to do it at work I would lose my job, livelihood etc. We the everyday decent working British people are being victimised in our own countries by others. I have only just learned today that it tkes only 11 1/2 per cent of the votes in the EU for our government to have to adopt any EU legislation! In other words because they are all dhimmified and liberal and want a nanny stte then we all suffer because of people outwith our own country as well as the bleedin immigrants making decisions on our behalf. Honestly I'm not racist but I can understand why the BNP are getting larger. If we are not careful we are all going to be defeated either from within or from siome effing luny nutjob whacko imam letting off some evil bomb or device that will create merry mayhem death and destruction to our lands. How can we defeat these sicko's without losing our livelihoods?
Please someone, anyone, help!
Thank you all for teaching me and enlightening me to the biggest problem our world is facing. Perhaps the best thing that could be done is to make a hollywood blockbuster like a doomsday movie eg armagedon. Only the west get defeated by islam. It would be a wake up call!
"Please - join us in the trashings on the threads about the Dark side"
Already there - "Freehand" whos comments i'm sure you'll have seen. Too bad i'm not getting the opportunity to post more than I am, but still, i've found that by quoting lots of evidence whilst avoiding and "contoversial" language, i've not been banned yet.
I wonder how many of the pro-islam types have been banned??
I wonder how many of the pro-islam types have been banned??
none as always
Marvin; A lower IQ doesn’t seem to prevent a countries' populations from following Islam. It also doesn't seem to prevent them from performing other functions. The correlation is dramatic. Birthrate data here, and IQ data here.
Nation; Birthrate (kids per female); National IQ
Japan; 1.4; 105
Germany; 1.4; 102
England; 1.6; 100
US; 2.0; 98
Argentina; 2.2; 96
Chile; 2.0; 93
Indonesia; 2.4; 89
Iraq; 4.2; 87
Belize; 4.4; 83
Haiti; 4.9; 72
Angola ; 6.4; 69
The world is going to get interesting.
If this was anyone other than the leader of a nation saying this I'd say he must be a member of the tinfoil hat brigades. Sounds like some of the drek you run into on news://alt.conspiracy
"Iran says U.S., Israel ordered September 11 attacks"
I believe the posts above about low I.Q.'s. Iran can't seem to think up it's own propaganda so it uses cheap Internet conspiracy theories.
"The world is going to get interesting."
And this is the wage of multiculturism.
If Iran is, indeed, the political heart of the Islamic world, I say let's drive a stake through that heart and kill the monster.
Target identified.
A low IQ does not mean NO IQ...
A low IQ does not always mean that the individual is not clever or devious.
I formerly worked in a hospital for developmentally disabled people with IQ's of 10/20. These individuals also had severe behavior problems. They were geniuses at devising ways to trick you, so they could indulge in their favorite pastimes, which were always destructive. People with average to above average intellegence were employed there, and every one of them had to 'try' NOT to be outsmarted. Thats by guys (adults) who are not even toilet trained. They 'knew' how to 'get' you, and were good at it.
A muslim with a low IQ can kill you just as dead as a
muslim with a higher IQ. Whats the average IQ of the suicide bombers anyway???
"Nation; Birthrate (kids per female); National IQ
Japan; 1.4; 105"
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Angola ; 6.4; 69"
The correlation of birth rate and IQ is rather weak. Birth rate is much more correlated to economical development. Asia is a good (counter)-example of this. Asian populations had high birthrates (until they developed) while having above average IQ. Visit http://www.gapminder.org/ for more information. The presenation by Hans Rosling is quite funny too.
However, it seems to me that economical development leads to lower average IQ for mankind. Oh well ;-)
"Thats by guys (adults) who are not even toilet trained."
Which reminds me of a comment one frequently hears from muslims, which is something along the lines that Allahs power to destroy is great.
That brings me to remember that children (with reference to people that are not toilet trained) learn to destroy first. This is the simple act that teaches them that they have influence over the world around them and that they matter.
Perhaps the muslim threats and violence is an expression of the same basic need, to matter in this world.
Thanks for the Gapminder link. Very interesting and well done site. I guess one life experience that remains seared in my conciousness is a recent plane ride where I sat among a Muslim couple with seven children.
Perhaps my experience wasn't as much based in IQ as it was in demographic Jihad. I'd be really interested to find out birth rates in Western countries by religion.
I just can't imagine how a modern democratic government can approach a man and his family, and deport them for their belief system.
In any case, I'll stand by the premise that things are going to get interesting.
Thanks for admitting that you are a mindless robot, aka Bush Bot, you complement your mindless enemies the Islamobots, the Ahmadinejadbots.
Bush is well deserving of criticism he isn't god, nor chosen of god, all men are deserving of criticism and we are remiss if we don't criticize, chastise and keep them in line, or exclude and exile them from power when and where they destroy the trust of the people and the corrupt the power DELEGATED to them by the people.
"I'd be really interested to find out birth rates in Western countries by religion."
Maybe this link may be of some interest then?
http://www.jp.dk/english_news/artikel:aid=3879248/
Nariz,
Fair criticism of the President's policies and actions is always acceptable discourse. Conservatives are some of his biggest critics today. What is not acceptable are dehumanizing and invidious comparisons of our President to monkeys or to barbaric totalitarian monsters such as Ahmadinejad.
This foul practice is something that you indulge in almost daily on JW/DW, and it contributes nothing to this site, as StorageManager pointed out. That you would indulge in this kind of hyperbolic "leftist jihad" reflects more on you than it does on the President, and suggests you suffer from an ideological indoctrination more thorough than even the Muslims suffer from. The next time you feel the urge to call someone a "mindless robot," I suggest you stop, hold up a mirror to your face, and then go have a quiet lie down.
And while you are at it, nariz, read a relaxing book- say, something by C.S. Lewis.
Thanks Marvin; Interesting numbers.