Check out the sign the woman is holding at the top of the photo. From Reuters:
Supporters of the Pakistan Muslim League party burn an effigy of Pope Benedict to protest against his remarks about Islam, during a demonstration in Multan September 21, 2006. European Union countries should take 'very seriously' the threat to Pope Benedict after his comments on Islam sparked outrage in the Muslim world, the EU's top security official said on Thursday. REUTERS/Asim Tanveer (PAKISTAN)
Can you imagine the furor if someone burned an effigy of Mohammed on the steps of US capitol.
And yet there they are burning the effigy of a man who leads Roman catholics all over the world that represents possibly a larger body of the faithfull than does Islam itself.
Multan is mainly a Punjabi area and pakistan Muslim League is a Punjabi Political Party. Most of this islamic jihad is spewing from Punjabi areas and well funded by arab hawala money.
Most people do not realize that 99% of non-punjabis in Pakistan are suffering from Punjabi oppression and want to secede from Pakistan.
Punjabis in India have resorted to similar violent barbarism against Indians.
Under the facade of Islam millions of non-punjabis have been butchered and genocide committed against them.
Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM) for sindhis, Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) are freedom movements and they need support from international community.
Sindhis, Balochis, Kashmiris, Afghans, Indians, Americans, British, no one is safe from
Arab-Iran-Punjabi axis of evil
Yet again, what is good for the haram goose is not good for the halal gander.
Now this is when a nuclear pakistan gets dangerious.
mystichealer,
Please go easy on the "Punjabi" stuff. Punjab is a province in India, and the Western part of it fell into pakistan in 1947. Majority of the army of pakistan is from this province, and yes, they do discriminate against the baloochees and the waziris. But that does not mean that you and I would survive 10 minutes in either a balooch or a waziri zone.
I wonder if that's "Naseem" standing back there with the sign...
I think we have our first photo of Naseem, lol! More proof of the results of inbreeding in Pakilund.
I've been reading JW for sometime now, but I think we are just preaching to the choir. Somehow Mr. Spencer needs to have more TV exposure or perhaps a syndicated news column.
Death to Islam.
'nuf sed.
That guy is not someone that you want to roast marshmellows with on the beach.
It looks like he has eaten one too many marshmellows in his lifetime.
arjun sevak
Perhaps you haven't suffered the torture and indignity at the hands of punjabis.
Balochi women cannot go out without a male escort. Non-punjabi women and Children are constantly harrased. Daggers are thrust in their private parts.
No Human rights organization is reporting this. There is constant fear and intimidation.
Punjabis have been bombing balochis and pathans for more than 3 decades now.
When your child's mangled body falls in your hands after a punjabi F-16 air-strike you will feel the knife cutting through your soul.
I have been told punjabis have snatched non-punjabis businesses in India through corrupt means.
They all speak the same language and you can easily distinguish them from their cunning and deception. Under the cover of islamic jihad, millions are losing their lives. Entire communities are being destroyed.
Is ISI the main sponser of Al Qaida not controlled by Punjabis?
Jihad is the way,huh? The way to hell, no doubt.
Pretty ironic that the sign's upside down-symbolic of Islam's view of the world.
Here is a link on how punjabis in Pakistan and India are uniting under a common umbrella to forge an alliance.
Now what will happen to indians, sindhis, balochis and pathans.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040203/main8.htm
I found it through google
The US is missing a chance.
They should arm the Baluchis and India and Pakistan would be history in no time.
Pakistan is the main breeding ground of hatred and terrorism.
Oops! A comma is missing after "India"
"have been told punjabis have snatched non-punjabis businesses in India through corrupt means."
India is not pakistan, buddy. Hindus from Punjab are, well, just Hindus. Just like Americans from Texas call themselves Texans, these people call themselves Punjabis because they are from that region. The muslims of punjab, wanting to deny their Hindu past, are something else. Yes, they subjugate the Balooch, the Waziris, the Sindhis and the Muhajirs. But they fear the Pathans. The Pathans, on their part, look down on these muslims from Punjab.
Rest assured about the Punjabis in India. They are Hindus, and we don't behave like any islamic society, snatching businesses through corrupt means.
"Can you imagine the furor if someone burned an effigy of Mohammed on the steps of US capitol."
Hey that sounds like fun. Just to piss off the muslims and watch them jump around like fools, somebody should do that. The only problem would be getting the tape distributed.
The regular press would'nt do it.
Mohammed burned in effigy, just to watch them freak out.
Leave the burning aside, just think what the muslims will do if we make an effigy of muhammad.
"An idol of uswa-hasana, al-insan, al-kamil. Idolatory is haram. Death to infidels. Death to idolators" would be some of the things we will hear.
"Rest assured about the Punjabis in India. They are Hindus, and we don't behave like any islamic society, snatching businesses through corrupt means."
Rest assured my friend that most sane Americans
at least know the difference between Hindus and
Muslims. Hindus can actually be your friend, and
possess the ability to love others who may not
be Hindu. Muslims (real Muslims, not Muslims in
name only) do not possess this empathy for
others.
I know plenty of Hindus in the US and if you
dropped a million Hindus here they'd get on fine
and contribute to the country. 15000 Muslims
from Saudi is a gigantic security threat.
Yes the hindus are friendly and honest and share their bread with you.
But India's punjabi president Manmohan Singh is letting other punjabis explode bombs on hindus and is shaking hands in Musharraf in Cuba. Khurshid Ahmed Kasuri the baloch murderer is in bakground.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060917/photos_wl_sa_afp/c72b6e938538794d82a86d5f0f482412
He also mixes with Cuban Dictator Castro in Havana.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060915/ids_photos_wl/r214921160.jpg
Punjabi-iran-arab axis of evil has waged a savage war on jews and christians and balochi and sindhi people, even kashmiris.
Something must be done before its too late.
The kashmiris, balochis and sindhis are not against jews and christians.
Only punjabis are. Osama-bin-Laden the Amir of Al Qaida is hiding in a punjabi house and waging war on the non-punjabis.
How punjabis are looting kashmiris. See it yourself.
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/nov/09rajeev.htm
This from google. The writer is a Hindu, but I am not sure, sounds hindu though.
The balochis and sindhis are friends of hindu and jews.
Whats the difference between warrior and savage.
The warrior saves, but the savage rapes women and bombs children's school and murders people sleeping at night using F-16.
Punjabis are those savages.
Arjun, I agree with Mystichealer that Pakistan's passion for fundamentalism comes from its overwhelmingly dominant Punjabi ethnic group, which use Islam to bind the rest of the small ethnic minorities to Pakistan. That's why Pakistan will never give up Islamic fundamentalism, because they need it as a glue to hold Pakistan together. Take away Islamist zeal, and the 'Pakjabis' would quickly find themselves deserted by the other ethnic groups of Pakistan, causing the country to disintegrate. Therefore, Islamic nationalism is part of their survival plan.
please sign this petition to the uk government if you agree & keep passing on many thanks.
http://www.petitiononline.com/NoSharia/petition.html
many thanks
The Pathans, on their part, look down on these muslims from Punjab.
Rest assured about the Punjabis in India. They are Hindus, and we don't behave like any islamic society, snatching businesses through corrupt means. Posted by: arjun.sevak
To clarify, Punjab was mainly Hindu before Paki-Stan was created.
Those Punjabi Hindu's (Some Christian and and Seihks also) who became trapped on the wrong side of the border have been persecuted by the Muslims. From time to time, the muslims get all worked up on prayer night and go slaughter all the infidels they can find.
They will grab a person sitting outside their home and literally beat the person into a bloody pulp, and keep pummeling them well after they are dead.
Muslims are animals, no matter what country they are in and become a large minority.
India has had to put up with these sub-human animals for nearly 1400 years, at a cost of around 124 million lives.
Muslims on their initial attacks on India have destroyed one of the oldest universities known to man, burned down their libraries, razed their temples and built mosks over them.
This is what Islam does and has done where ever it goes since it's beginnings.
To hear muslims claim that they invented Algebra, is a joke, it was invented then stolen from India.
Islam has brought NOTHING to this world except misery and death.
Please sign this petition against punjabi terrorism.
Punjabis are responsible for all terrorism and giving bad name to balochis, sindhis, kashmiris and pathans.
http://www.petitiononline.com/baloch/petition.html
India's punjabi president Manmohan Singh is sharing intelligence with his fellow punjabis to murder balochis, kashmiris and sindhis.
India's wise leaders Rao and Atal Vajpyara helped pakistan's oppressed minorities. Bring them back and stop this murder now.
"Hey that sounds like fun. Just to piss off the muslims and watch them jump around like fools, somebody should do that. The only problem would be getting the tape distributed." Posted by: thehappyinfidel
There'd be no problem distributing the tape - just send it to Al-Jazeera. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to broadcast it!
I agree with Mystichealer that Pakistan's passion for fundamentalism comes from its overwhelmingly dominant Punjabi ethnic group, which use Islam to bind the rest of the small ethnic minorities to Pakistan. Posted by: sanman
Oh I agree. The Muslim Punjabi's are "good muslims", they follow the Koran to the letter.
But they aren't the only kind of Punjabi's. There are alot of Hindu's Seiks and Christians trapped in that hell hole. They are toys for Muslim Sub animals to murder, rape and otherwize amuse themselves with.
You don't see amnesty protesting there, (Probably because Amnesty admin. is full of muslims)
visiting people who have been sitting in those prisons, tortured without charge until death.
Media never mentions a word about ANY place where Islam rules.
India's punjabi president ?
Punjab is in paki-stan.
Or are you saying the president of india is of muslim-punjab decent?
No he is not muslim. But he has the same aim of destroying non-punjabis.
He poses as learned man, but has knife hidden in his jacket. He is sharing intelligence with other punjabis like kurshid ahmad kasuri to kill balochi and sindhi independence.
Kashmiris are minority now in their own land.
We know that.
http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/22/stories/2006092209170100.htm
Punjabi Manmohan Singh Shares intelligence with Punjabis to murder balochis.
Islam is just an excuse to wage terror all over the world by punjabis and ISI.
Where do I start with you??
The opposition MMA in Pakistan (not MQM as I mistakenly typed in the earlier thread) is strongest in NWFP, Baluchistan and Sind - and it's the Taliban of Pakistan. It's weakest in Punjab.
As Arjun pointed out, Hindus (and Sikhs) from Punjab are perfectly fine - nothing wrong with them. Do you even read what you are linking? Your Tribune India link above was just a link about Punjabi language being introduced in Pak Punjab, and your rediff link above is a link to how the rest of India is being colonized by Kashmiri Muslims (something I doubt). Nothing about Punjab there.
And God knows what you are smoking when you talk about Punjab President (sic) Manmohan Singh's tryst with Musharraf in Havana - it was one of the Congress party's usual sucking up to Indo-Pak diplomacy. And the latter part about Manmohan Singh conniving with Pakistan's Punjabi establishment to murder Baluchis, Sindis and Kashmiris is absolutely laughable.
India's Punjabi and Pakistan's Punjab have nothing to do with each other. Also, Narasimha Rao died some years ago, and Vajpyara (sic) is almost retired from politics.
If you want to slam Pakistan's Punjabis, go ahead. But remember 2 things:
- Sindis and Baluchis are not benign;
- Sikh/Hindu Punjabis are benign. There are no problems in India between them and other Hindus/non-Muslims.
Now back to your routine.Americat,
Spencer and others like him are slowly percolating into the public conscious, but it is very slow going because of the dominance of PC Multiculturalism in our society. It will probably be another few years before the public conversation out in the daylight (as opposed to the public conversation here among these Internet interstices) begins to sound more like Jihad Watch, and less like Alice's Wonderland.
please do not hijack this thread with Punjabi politics. I am not saying that you do not have a case, all I am saying is that the concern of the thread is the way that a bunch of rather stupid people are allowed to litter the streets, with their own bodies.
These are really dumb people if they are willing to hold up a sign that says "Jihad is our way". I mean such stupid people could not possibly understand the true meaning of jihad - making war on others who do not submit to slavery.
As for the woman holding up the sign, yes it must be Naseem because she has about the same amount of sense ;-)
Of course the sign is nothing to do with the huge propaganade jihadi drive to recruit the worlds poorest, worst educated and illiterate people, all across the globe, in order to further the cause of nationalist arabic jihadi fascism?
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I am not allowed to say those words - so I asked my sock puppet to say them for me - luckily my sock puppet could read english and type - so the above phrase is not upside down ...
Assalamau _laikum all,
yohannbiimu asks "I wonder if that's "Naseem" standing back there with the sign"...
1069 says !I think we have our first photo of Naseem, lol! "
Ha hA...I don't live in Multan...I live in Lahore and Jihad is not my way....it is peaceful dawa.
Interesting talk about Punjabis. Before the partition there was only the Punjab shared by all.
Afer Partition , I am a "muslim" punjabi in Pak.
In India there are Hindu Punjabis and Sikh Punjabis.
There are but a handful of sikh and Hindu Punjabis now in Lahore.
I can understand some of the resentment to muslim punjabis in Pak...they (primarily sunnis) have been holding power pretty much since the birth of Pak.
Jinnah's grandfather the founder of Pak was a hindu, Ali Bhutto's grandfather was a Hindu...heck I have read that even Muhd's SAW uncle was a hindu.
There surely is something about the hindus these peoples found wanting. Perhaps the diet, the lack of discipline, for why would you give up your lineage?
Any clues?
To all indian posters sorry for not reading all the posts if this has come up all ready, I was under the impression that the Sikhs & Hindus of the Punjab have been putting up fairly vocal and sometimes physical resistance to the spread of Islamism, is this not true?
Actually errors like the one with the sign occur in the UK.
Someone in a council department giving handouts of up to £20K to the disadvantaged ALL races told me every applicant had to submit a statement of their income. That is prove how little money they had.
One a Pakistani - sorry British Asian - who had lived in the UK for 20 years sent in an application form for a bussiness franchise with rough calculations of the profit he expected to make instead! The council form was just script while the franchise application was covered with photographs of a typical franchise site and company logos!
They just sent the franchise form back and asked for the correct one and as far as I know he got his £20K. Anything else would have needed a big investigation and what about the inevitable charges of racism?
So who was dumb?
Assalamau Laikum km,
I don't know about the Hindus but I do know a little about the sikhs. My best friend in the UK as I was going through school and Uni was a Kuldip....a sikh girl.
Through her I got to learn a lot about sikhs. In particular how sikhism started with Guru Nanak with "bani" (the holy word) much in the way as Bhuddism .i.e. recite the name of the lord so called "naam simiran" to cleanse the soul.
As I got to know their history, I felt shame on the way the mogul emperors treated the sikh and their gurus.
After the myterdom of their 5th guru (Ajran Dev), the sikhs took a more militant stand.
However the final straw came with the beheading of the 9th guru (guru Teg Bahadur), his son and the last of the sikh gurus (guru Gobind Singh) formed the Khalsa Panth. A brotherhood formed to check "muslim imperialism".
My friend Kuldip made me recognise that they were forced down the martial route to combat "muslim imperialism".
Being my best friend I listened patiently. After Guru Gobind came Banda Bahadur who in 7 years shook the foundation of Mogul Empire. With 75 years the sikh had control of Kahmir and Afghanistan. Sikhs she told me were recognised almost as the ultimate martial race.
Kuldip says, only the intervention of the British stopped the sikh from ruling over all India.
Here are a couple of websites that she asked me to look at.
http://www.sikhpride.com/wars.htm
http://www.info-sikh.com/GallaryH.html
My friend ofcourse has had enermous influence over my thinking...and yes I do have a healthy respect for sikhs.
Can I suggest that we get back on the topic of Jihad since this is Jihad Watch and not waste our time discussing irrelevant topics such as Punjabis (who most of us have no problems with unless, of course, they have been injected with the Islam virus).
Naseem, you said: There surely is something about the hindus these peoples found wanting. Perhaps the diet, the lack of discipline, for why would you give up your lineage?
Any clues?
They were poligamists, or child abusers, or enjoyed a doctrine that promotes violence and hatred, or perhaps simply scoundrels...
Islam is a taylor-made religion for such human dregs..
Infidel Pride wrote:
"The opposition MMA in Pakistan (not MQM as I mistakenly typed in the earlier thread) is strongest in NWFP, Baluchistan and Sind - and it's the Taliban of Pakistan. It's weakest in Punjab."
Yes, but MMA is a creation of Pakistan's ISI and is kept well-funded by them as a way to suppress ethnic nationalism by brainwashing locals with religious fundamentalism.
he also wrote:
"Sindis and Baluchis are not benign;"
Again, I feel that ethno-nationalist groups like Kurds, Baluchis or Sindhis are inherently less inclined to support Islamic fundamentalism. That's why the Pakistani govt has targetted certain areas for the propagation of religious fundamentalism, to bring their troublesome ethnic groups under tighter control.
MYSTICHEALER,
PLEASE GO EASY ON THE "PUNJABI" STUFF. PUNJAB IS A PROVINCE IN INDIA, AND THE WESTERN PART OF IT FELL INTO PAKISTAN IN 1947. MAJORITY OF THE ARMY OF PAKISTAN IS FROM THIS PROVINCE, AND YES, THEY DO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE BALOOCHEES AND THE WAZIRIS. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU AND I WOULD SURVIVE 10 MINUTES IN EITHER A BALOOCH OR A WAZIRI ZONE.
Dear Arjun,
you are so right especially if you are wearing a Skih turban, what is need is the decendents of Runjeet Singh, the Gorracharra, the Guides and Probens horse is to go through these Badmash like a military lacative. I think this would solve the problem, they are beyond reason.
I would like to own that effigy making business in pakistan. that guy must be making a killing (pun intended).
Mystichealer:
I say more power to grandsons of Nawab Bugti and Baluchs. Beware of the backstabbing punjabi muslim, for he only listens to force.
We'll bomb you to Stone Age, US told Pakistan
"PERVEZ MUSHARRAF, the President of Pakistan, claimed last night that the Bush Administration threatened to bomb his country “into the Stone Age” if it did not co-operate with the US after 9/11"
Naseem: "There surely is something about the hindus these peoples found wanting. Perhaps the diet, the lack of discipline, for why would you give up your lineage?
Any clues?"
As a former Hindu yourself, Naseem, you are in the best position to tell us.
"Sikhs were the ultimate martial race"
Maybe, but there were several such races in India: The Rajputs, the Marathas, the Jats.
1700-1850 were more or less dominated by the Marathas and Sikhs. The Marathas did suffer losses at Panipat but inflicted heavy damage on the Muslim forces.
But for the Marathas and Sikhs, the West would have about 20 more Pakistan's on their hands.Indians need to build war memorials at Amritsar and Poona to pay homage to the Sikh and Maratha warriors who fought the war on terror centuries before the Americans did.
Of course jihadis and muslims in third world countries are ignorant. Ignorance is wisdom.
A drunk or ignorant man can still crash a truck into a cafe and kill off a group of people sitting around with IQs of 130 or greater. If a insane or mentally slow person has access to firepower that person is still dangerous.
What we don't seem to grasp is that idiots like those in the picture CAN STILL WIN in the modern age of weaponry and 'tolerance'.
How can the MSM not realize they're being used as a propaganda tool, when supposed "man on the middle-eastern street" demonstrations show signs written in English??
Unbelievable.
Mr. Holger Dansker,
You have sent me to the books again. Yes, I have read of Ranjeet Singh, but about Gorrachara and the Guides I have not read anything. I think I posted it, Sir, you have experienced India more than I have. And yes, Sir, this I know, these people are beyond reason. And one can throw in the Punjabis in pakistan for good measure while we are at it.
Punjabis have been backstabbing the Balochis and Indians for many centuries. I have also heard that
Gurkhas, Rajputs and Marathas are noble and brave. They must help balochis against Punjabi oppression.
I also read on Chandragupta Maurya and he is brave king from Patliputra, son of Nandi (Bihar) and fought against
Iran-Punjabi axis of evil.
If our people and sindhis, kashmiris, pathans get free from Punjab, terrorism will stop.
Punjab is the root cause. Osama-bin-Laden is hiding in a Punjabi house ad murdering innocent civilians in Sindh, baloch, ad kashmir.
Government of India should bring back Vajpayee and wage war on Pakistan to liberate from Punjabi oppression.
How can the MSM not realize they're being used as a propaganda tool, when supposed "man on the middle-eastern street" demonstrations show signs written in English??
Unbelievable.
Posted by: Know Your Enemy
Good point. I've wondered that myself, especially when the signs are well written in a consistent penmanship & using consistent materials or when the big banners are printed professionally ( like a nice red & white one addressed to Mr. Pope )
Our journalists are urinalists... piss pot holders & equipment shakers for the master Muslims.
I guess it's not Naseem holding that sign. She would have stood on her head to get it right side up.
yohannbiimu and atheling ,
Good one;)Lol...