And no attempt -- no attempt -- is being made to determine whether or not these Muslims adhere to the jihad ideology. Neither by immigration officials or by the New Duranty Times (from which this comes, with thanks to Erick Stakelbeck). No one quoted in the article gives any hint of being anything but entranced by Western values, and that's all to the good, of course, but nevertheless, it doesn't change the fact that aspects of the jihad ideology do not come up in the immigration process.
America’s newest Muslims arrive in the afternoon crunch at John F. Kennedy International Airport. Their planes land from Dubai, Casablanca and Karachi. They stand in line, clasping documents. They emerge, sometimes hours later, steering their carts toward a flock of relatives, a stream of cabs, a new life.This was the path for Nur Fatima, a Pakistani woman who moved to Brooklyn six months ago and promptly shed her hijab. Through the same doors walked Nora Elhainy, a Moroccan who sells electronics in Queens, and Ahmed Youssef, an Egyptian who settled in Jersey City, where he gives the call to prayer at a palatial mosque.
“I got freedom in this country,” said Ms. Fatima, 25. “Freedom of everything. Freedom of thought.”
The events of Sept. 11 transformed life for Muslims in the United States, and the flow of immigrants from countries like Egypt, Pakistan and Morocco thinned dramatically.
But five years later, as the United States wrestles with questions of terrorism, civil liberties and immigration control, Muslims appear to be moving here again in surprising numbers, according to statistics compiled by the Department of Homeland Security and the Census Bureau.
Immigrants from predominantly Muslim countries in the Middle East, North Africa and Asia are planting new roots in states from Virginia to Texas to California.
In 2005, more people from Muslim countries became legal permanent United States residents — nearly 96,000 — than in any year in the previous two decades. More than 40,000 of them were admitted last year, the highest annual number since the terrorist attacks, according to data on 22 countries provided by the Department of Homeland Security....
“America has always been the promised land for Muslims and non-Muslims,” said Behzad Yaghmaian, an Iranian exile and author of “Embracing the Infidel: Stories of Muslim Migrants on the Journey West.” “Despite Muslims’ opposition to America’s foreign policy, they still come here because the United States offers what they’re missing at home.”
For Ms. Fatima, it was the freedom to dress as she chose and work as a security guard. For Mr. Youssef, it was the chance to earn a master’s degree.
He came in spite of the deep misgivings that he and many other Egyptians have about the war in Iraq and the Bush administration. In America, he said, one needs to distinguish between the government and the people.
“Who am I dealing with, Bush or the American public?” he said. “Am I dealing with my future in Egypt or my future here?”...
But Sept. 11 altered the course of Muslim life in America. Mosques were vandalized. Hate crimes rose. Deportation proceedings were begun against thousands of men, and others were arrested in an array of terrorism cases.
Some Muslims changed their names to avoid job discrimination, making Mohammed “Moe,” and Osama “Sam.” Scores of families left for Canada or returned to their native countries.
Yet this period also produced something strikingly positive, in the eyes of many Muslims: they began to mobilize politically and socially. Across the country, grass-roots organizations expanded to educate Muslims on civil rights, register them to vote and lobby against new federal policies such as the Patriot Act.
“There was the option of becoming introverted or extroverted,” said Agha Saeed, national chairman of the American Muslim Task Force on Civil Rights and Elections, an umbrella organization in Newark, Calif., created in 2003. “We became extroverted.”
In some ways, new Muslim immigrants may be better off in the post-9/11 America they encounter today, say Muslim leaders and academics: Islamic centers are more organized, and resources like English instruction and free legal assistance are more accessible.
But outside these newly organized mosques, life remains strained for many Muslims.
To avoid taunts, women are often warned not to wear head scarves in public, as was Rubab Razvi, 21, a Pakistani who arrived in Brooklyn nine months ago. (She ignored the advice, even though people stare at her on the bus, she said.) Muslims continue to endure long waits at airports, where they are often tagged for questioning because of their names or dress.
To some longtime immigrants, the life embraced by newcomers will never compare to the peaceful era that came before.
“They haven’t seen the America pre-9/11,” said Khwaja Mizan Hassan, 42, who left Bangladesh 30 years ago. He rose to become the president of Jamaica Muslim Center, a mosque in Queens, and has a comfortable job with the New York City Department of Probation.
But after Sept. 11, he was stopped at Kennedy Airport because his name matched another on a watch list.
So what? That's an example of some kind of discrimination? That has happened to me too.
Well, obviously hostile stares are not enough.
Looks like we need to ratchet the pushback up
several notches.
Isn't it wonderful, that muslims can come to the US, even though they hate the government and its foreign policy, but still are willing to suffer that to enjoy its fruits?
This is what the NY times is saying.
"More Muslims Arrive in U.S., After 9/11 Dip"
It is entirely disrespectful to refer to the President as a 9/11 Dip.
Concerned Citizen, You can call him whatever you want to. Why should we respect him and his underlings, when he does not have any respect for us.
I'm going to paste a posting of mine from another article:
What will we Americans do when we realize that the ballot box is not achieving the ends that are necessary to ensure our protection?
An Iman in Dearborn can preach to the faithful and repeat his desire to destroy US Constitution without fear of being arrested. I fear that an Anglo-Saxon, American Christian who speaks of revolution will be thrown under the jail, so, I'll keep silent.
August22, THEY ain't here to "enjoy the fruits," THEY are here to take over.
So far, where I live, an area where the phone book encompasses about 450,000 people, there is only one Mosque listed.
These stats can't be squared with a war effort going on.
GW says that we are in a war of huge consequences, with enemies that he, himself identifies as islamic fascists, yet he continues to allow muslims in the country. Ostensibly because the enemies are radical, whereas all of these people are just looking for "a better life."
It can't be squared.
Does anyone know of any historical precedent for a country at war, SIMULTANEOUSLY allowing members of the enemy group to enter their country.
Notice I didn't say the enemy per se, I said simply members of the enemy group.
I think it's without historic precedent.
This has to be stopped. This country should not remain open to those who bear in their mental baggage, undeclared but a permanent presence, and one that, even while the virus of Jihad may remain dormant, it can be triggered through any number of events, often of a purely personal nature. It is not fair to all those non-Muslims who live here. It is not fair to the legal and political institutions of this country, nor to the free and skeptical inquiry that helped to construct it. It is not fair to endanger all Infdiels, to create a society more unpleasant and unsettled, much more expensive (the gigantic costs of monitoring Muslim populations everywhere in the Western world, which grow and grow and grow, have to be factored in), and the physical insecurity which hits certain subsets of the general population more immediately (think of what has happened to the security of Jews in England or France or elsewhere that Muslim antisemitism, and the spread of it to others who, wishing to get along with Muslims, find appealing, or perhaps merely find it prudent, to mimic or endorse or accept the Islamic variant of antisemitism, as deadly, even if prompted differently, as the kind that arose in Western Christendom. Since anti-Israel sentiments, encouraged in Western publics by the scandalous misreporting of the Lesser Jihad against Israel and of Israel's attempts to defend itself, promote antisemitic attitudes, and antisemitic attitudes promote anti-Israel attitudes, one finds many in the Western world, unable to cope with, even to dare to begin to think about, the menace of Islam and of the Muslim presence in their midst, to wish it away by blaming the putative misdeeds or even the existence of Israel, unable to realize that while for decades Israel was the main focus of Muslim aggressiveness, now the oil wealth has allowed the Jihad to metastasize, and those millions of Muslim migrants are -- and must be, given the clear contents of Qur'an and Hadith, and the example of Muhammad -- the bearers of not merely an alien (the tolerant West can handle all kinds of alien creeds, and does) but rather, an alien and a hostile creed.
We owe the world of Islam nothing. We owe those who over the past several centuries created the political, legal, and social institutions of this country, and managed to win the guarantees for the rights of the individual, a good deal. And like the rest of the peoples of the West, Americans also owe the thinkers, philosophers, writers, artists of the past three millennia, almost none of whom could conceivably have been produced by an Islamic society, or whose work would, having been tolerated in such a society even if produced elsewhere.
The West at present may be an unseemly mess, in many ways. That does not mean that its inhabitants have the moral or intellectual right to throw away, or not defend, their civilizational legacy. They must not do that. And part of that not doing that is not to further swell Muslim ranks within the Bilad al-kufr, the Lands of the Infidels.
Suicidal acts are not to be encouraged.
Moreover, many in the United States are functioning under the misguided delusion that the reason that Australia and Europe are having muslim problems isn't because of muslim numbers, nor anything intrinsically perverse about islam, it's because they haven't "integrated" them. But supposedly, we in the United States, melting pot of the world, we can, whereas so many other states, societies and communities have failed.
Such an attitude is ahistorical, and naive in the extreme, perhaps, suicidally naive.
Someone needs to remind the Protestant in the White House, about the verse that says "cast ye not your pearls before swine, lest they trample them into the ground, then turn on you, and tear you to pieces." Whatever happened to Protestant scriptural literalism? We need a little bit of that right now.
We need a great deal of caution in dealing with islam, a great deal of rational, prudential caution.
Let's wait and see how this vast social experiment is going to turn out in Europe, before we risk casting "our pearls before swine." Let's be a bit wait and see, trial and error, before we embark on a course that could only be turned back with great turmoil, and cost in blood.
Islam isn't some frivolous exhibit at the Epcot Center in Orlando, Florida. And our establishment and elites had better stop treating it as one.
Hugh, it's nothing short of a repudiation of the social compact, the social contract. One generation, {the '60's} is taking action that forever demolishes the ability of succeeding generations to enjoy the heirlooms of freedom and liberty, which the post-modern '60's generation scorns and spits on.
And Hugh, if you want to think about subsets, think of a Black American grandmother, who sees some of her grandchildren adopt islam, adopt the bitterness, the hatred, the violence, and sees her own grandchildren repudiate the religion of her family, and her parents going back generations. Just imagine the pain many a family is experiencing across our lands, and across Europe for that matter.
This is all an attempt by the First world to drag the Third World across the finish line to modernity, to "connectivity," as Thomas Barnett would say. And if women get raped, gang raped, and muslim ghettos get established in former places of order and civilization, and terror cells get established too, they chalk it up to the costs of introducing Third Worlders in the modern age.
It's all Marxism and materialism too, they REFUSE to take seriously the spiritual and religious motivations of the muslims, they refuse to take seriously the outrageous elements in the Koran. They couldn't take such things seriously, so they don't believe anybody else could either. And this fits in with their determination to see this war as nothing more than a police matter, except simply larger.
They are so condescending towards islam, towards muslims. And that attitude might spell the doom of them, and their civilization.
Yes Dan, and when that implicit social contract
is gone, citizens will no longer respect the law,
and seek justice outside of the law. But we
mustn't talk about that. I'm sympathetic to those British guys who released the videotape
threatening the invaders, but I think other more
forceful approaches should be tried too.
“I got freedom in this country,” said Ms. Fatima, 25. “Freedom of everything." Let's hope that doesn't include freedom to wage jihad. Thanks to Senator Ted Kennedy and his Demo friends for changing the immigration policies 40 years ago.
Root, when I met a repudiation of the social contract, I meant those who initiated the open border policy towards muslims, then in the face of what is ongoing in Europe, and what happened on 9/11, 7/7, etc, and have continued it, instead of discontinuing it.
That open border policy should be halted for the duration of the conflict.
And since the President has said that the war will last decades, well then, for decades at least, that open border should be closed.
When islam has demonstrated sustained moderation, then we can consider the issue. But until such time, they should be barred, and their money too. No more port deals, no more endowments, no more funded think tanks. We don't want them, we don't want their money.
We're in a war, and they're either passive, or openly siding with our enemies. And those who actually wish us to prevail, are few and far between, and we have little means of determining their bona fides.
So, until the war effort is over, close the border for muslims, and for all others from the middle east, and that includes Christians. For many of them are dhimmis, and like Ashrawi, openly side with totalitarian lunatics.
Keep them out.
August22 summed up this article perfectly. The new Muslim immigrants arrive, already hating and resisting our government policies. They also hate American infidels, although the article assures readers otherwise. Yet, they come anyway, for the chance to buy a nice car, a house and an ability to tap into all other benefits such as superior medical care, access to higher education, cities that actually work, with such things are road upkeep, garbarge pickups, etc. I grew up the most peaceful, prosperous country in the world. My grandchildren, yet unborn, will grow up in a hostile, dangerous third world country whose foundations were laid by my fellow Baby Boomers. I am sick at heart.
Assalamau Laikum all,
Thank you , thank you, to the US admin. This flow of muslims is essential to build up the required numbers for the fertile growth of the required combination of muslims/wuslims for the wholesale coversion of the the US to the ISA.
Inshalla, if there are enough muslims, then peaceful dawa is essentially the way forward despite the odd bits of violence here and there.
Karachi ofcourse is a special city. It's infrastructure is in danger of falling, there is severe overcrowing there and life is cheap. There are many shootings (just like in Amerika)and many citizens who move out of Karachi will be truly grateful to you.
Believe me truly you have nothing to fear from them. They will work hard and try to build the economy of your country in some small way.
Ofcourse you cannot expect them to leave their dress, code of conduct or religion behind. So obviously the mosques and halal buthchers are especially important.
Even more important are Allah's Daen (gifts from Allah) ...childrens..
It is the childrens who change, who have time on their hands, who have to go to school in the Amerekie and may be discriminated, and who will be confused growing up.
It is however, the ratio of your infedel young childrens to muslim childrens that you need to be aware of ...and allowing muslims in only helps our peaceful dawa cause in this regard.
Once again thank you for understanding and may Allah's peace be upon us all soon.
Assalamau Laikum all,
Thank you , thank you, to the US admin. This flow of muslims is essential to build up the required numbers for the fertile growth of the required combination of muslims/wuslims for the wholesale coversion of the the US to the ISA.
Inshalla, if there are enough muslims, then peaceful dawa is essentially the way forward despite the odd bits of violence here and there.
Karachi ofcourse is a special city. It's infrastructure is in danger of falling, there is severe overcrowing there and life is cheap. There are many shootings (just like in Amerika)and many citizens who move out of Karachi will be truly grateful to you.
Believe me truly you have nothing to fear from them. They will work hard and try to build the economy of your country in some small way.
Ofcourse you cannot expect them to leave their dress, code of conduct or religion behind. So obviously the mosques and halal buthchers are especially important.
Even more important are Allah's Daen (gifts from Allah) ...childrens..
It is the childrens who change, who have time on their hands, who have to go to school in the Amerekie and may be discriminated, and who will be confused growing up.
It is however, the ratio of your infedel young childrens to muslim childrens that you need to be aware of ...and allowing muslims in only helps our peaceful dawa cause in this regard.
Once again thank you for understanding and may Allah's peace be upon us all soon.
"But Sept. 11 altered the course of Muslim life in America. Mosques were vandalized. Hate crimes rose. Deportation proceedings were begun against thousands of men, and others were arrested in an array of terrorism cases."
what's wrong with this?
one word: BOYCOTT MUSLIM ACTIVITIES IN USA!
Avoid their shops! Avoid their activities!
These arrivals have entered as a result of present immigration law which is bad enough. Think how much worse it will get under the McKennedy-Bush amnesty/guestworker proposal which will allow corporations to scour the world (a world which consists of 25% Muslims) for cheap labor to import. Bad though they may be in many ways, the House Republicans are the only obstacle to this disaster. We'd better hope they keep their majority in November; otherwise we'll have to unfold our prayer rugs 5 times a day.
"It is the childrens who change, who have time on their hands, who have to go to school in the Amerekie and may be discriminated, and who will be confused growing up. "
hey stupid nasheem, this is the only true thing you wrote. From now on muslim will be discriminated by civil society. I find it incredibly funny. You are worse than animals in your own countries, and even worse everywhere else.
Hope for the next earthquake to lower the muslim number.
Oh, by the way, have you read that famine is killing afghanistan people in large numbers.
Allah is telling you muslim something...
[q]Once again thank you for understanding and may Allah's peace be upon us all soon. [/q]
hey cow, when earthquakes, famine, flood, eruptions touch your deserving lands do you still talk of allah's peace?
Well I hope it too. And so far allah as been kind to the west by reducing muslim numbers with his plagues.
Mary Rose, not that bad, not yet.
We're not close to embracing the Third World, at least not yet in the United States. Sewage isn't going to begin pooling in the streets and the intersections.
We're not there.
The real danger is bloodshed, religious violence in our inner cities. Police forces stretched to the maximum trying to contain muslim riots, just like we've seen in Australia and Europe.
And the only thing preventing that occurring here, so far, is numbers. They simply don't have the numbers yet, so they don't have the swagger. Once they've got the numbers, then we'll see the swagger, then we'll see the violence, and then we'll start to read about the gang rapes.
It makes me sick.
"Once they've got the numbers, then we'll see the swagger, then we'll see the violence, and then we'll start to read about the gang rapes."
don't despair, remember what happens when locusts become too many.
Oh and locusts are less damaging than muslism.
Dan, it's already happening here. Rapes, that is, but not gang rapes yet. A prestigious southern university in my city has had a rape and an attempted rape by "black" foreigners driving a rogue taxi cab on campus. Both crimes were hushed up after the initial reporting in the local news, probably due to the University's pull. My guess is the rapists were Somalis, as there are many here and many drive taxis. Also, they are very aggressive. The rapists haven't been caught to my knowledge.
Naseem, please, send us more muslims to try to "convert" us. I really enjoy the challenge of moving targets.
“I got freedom in this country,” said Ms. Fatima, 25. “Freedom of everything. Freedom of thought.”
This sounds like someone who might very well hope that she is leaving the mad Maulvis behind. Her grandchildren will probably be Evangelical Christians.
The area around the University of Washington in Seattle, Washington, has had increasing problems over the past couple of yeasr with one or more gangs selling stolen goods and drugs and causing violence late at night -- this was according to the student newspaper, which identified this gang or gangs as "East African" but, of course, failed to identify them as Muslims.
Dan - I believe you are absolutely right that there is no precedent in the Western history of warfare - strategy or tactics - where one side was allowed to populate the other side with his people while the war is in progress. We are not talking about Trojan Horses sneaked in, we are talking about enemies walking across the border to the welcoming arms of the traitorous State Department.
So how are they teaching resistance to Dawa at West Point? At the FBI school in Quantico (probably taught by CAIR); At the CIA spook school (probably also run by CAIR) Are they teachin it at all? Do they even know what it is?
Well, what can we do?
Our representative government will not listen to the wishes of the people. I have sent letters to Senators and Congresspeople, and receive form letters, thanking me for my interest in such and such matters. I am afraid that our government has become an oligarchy or aristocracy who just don't give a damn what "the little people" want.
"Let the eat cake" ring a bell?
them
/stupid fingers
Naseem, I forgot; assyougottalickem to you too!
To point out the obvious,
“I got freedom in this country,” said Ms. Fatima, 25. “Freedom of everything. Freedom of thought.”
If it's the USA that gives you the freedom, then shouldn't that tell you that something is wrong with the country you came from (Pakistan), which operates under Islamic law and denies freedom? If Islam is so great, then why are you trying to get away from the countries where is it law?
“Despite Muslims’ opposition to America’s foreign policy, they still come here because the United States offers what they’re missing at home.”
Shouldn't this also be an indicator that the Islamic laws may be the root of the problem in their home countries?
Muslims have not done anything half useful for over a thousand years. All they do is cause trouble in the world and blame everybody else for their problems and self-inflicted misfortunes. Despite their fanciful complaints they live amongst us in West in their millions, and enjoy freedom and prosperity, whereas if we so much as visit one of their backward sweltering forlorn countries as a tourist, we risk a bullet in the back. It is strange how Islam is not banned within the borders of their “mother of all evil” enemy: Israel, yet Judaism and Christianity are banned in Saudi Arabia and a host of Muslim countries suppress Christianity. There are more Muslims in America than there are Palestinians, yet what thanks does the USA ever get for anything? Bangladesh, for example, is the biggest recipient of Western humanitarian aid in the world. This nation has evicted millions of Buddhists from their ancient lands which were never part of Bengal, (the Buddhist Chittagong Hill Tract was exchanged by the British with the Muslim League for Calcutta, which went to India. The non-Muslim tribal Chakma people of the hills were shocked in 1947 to learn that they were to be absorbed into East Pakistan, as they had already raised the Burmese flag in their lands, and thought that at a long shot the hills might even go to India – but NEVER Pakistan) and yet Bangladeshis in the UK have the hypocrisy to rant against the West and Palestinian resettlement. Muslims are hypocrites of the first order and they are a dose of poison into any nation foolish enough to accept them as immigrants. The 20th century dream of a progressive multi-cultural welfare-friendly nation state has died, instead now we have the waking nightmare of Islamo-facism, and the sneer of the second and third generation Muslim immigrant, who abides amongst us with the mentality of an invader. It’s only a minority we are so often told – yet it’s always the same minority, a significant minority, a murderous minority, an ever-present minority. It’s only 10% we are told, well 10% of a million is 100,000 – and it only took a few dozen individuals to do 9/11, and fewer still to do 7/7, but the French can really tell us what happens when the militant 10% takes to the streets to vent their disloyal hypocritical anger against the nation state that affords them food and shelter.
Timbo - thanks be to allah - the oceans are rising... Bangledesh will be renamed 'the bay of Bengal - Swampadesh' in 20 years.
Allah will continue to send typhoons to deal with Bangledeshi muslims... inshallah... Allah will push any survivors into the hills. allah hates muslims and tries to rid the world of them in many ways every day. The proof is all around us.
Hi all,
There is a country called India. Learn from it.
From its doomed future. The whole country is hijacked by muslims. The whole political system is carving for muslim votes in a country with only 13% muslim population. Everywhere you will find muslim pockets where only muslims live, and all crazy things go on. Mosques are used to store weapons to kill hindus and christians(in some places) still govt will never order inquiry into it fearing muslim votes as all parties have some muslim coalition.
All these did not happen in a day. It took years of small small penetration, after India independence.
Now we have mini pakistans throughout India with people who supports pakistan even for a cricket match, because it is pathetic-muslim country. And no one will even dare to question these muslims euphoria in pakistan victories. No one can.
The whole media, letf and congress are like dogs begging for votes.
India is like this because it is a divided country. But you westerner can learn from our plight. Atleast we have been destroyed beyond a recovery. If you take care your grand-children will not worry or else even after a bomb-blast per month you cant even say that it is our own muslims doing it. Yes even with all the proof, it is sacriligious in India to say so. Instead the PM will announce in TV that no one should make Muslims feel bad, as that is bad for the polity.
Tommorrow if you get muslim population like ours, they are going to demand even your underwears!!!
So kick them all out, or else preish like us.
-tachy