A step toward anti-dhimmitude from Italian Interior Minister Giuliano Amato, analyzed by Federico Bordonaro in IPS (thanks to Designnut):
ROME, Sep 25 (IPS) - Interior Minister Giuliano Amato proposed in August that Muslim organisations in Italy will need to subscribe to a Charter of Values to signal their readiness to be fully integrated into Italian society and its political culture.Rome is facing a huge challenge: it cannot fail to integrate its increasingly numerous Muslim immigrant population, but since integration policies in Europe are regarded as less than successful, it is forced to seek new solutions....
Less than successful? They've been non-existent, due to demands from Muslim leaders that they not be undertaken. Cf. Eurabia by Bat Ye'or; Abou Jahjah's notorious statement that "assimilation is cultural rape," etc.
After the Madrid and London terror attacks in 2004 and 2005, the Danish cartoon controversy, and last summer's so-called honour killing in northern Italy where a Pakistani immigrant killed his daughter, worries about Muslim integration in Italy have increased.In particular, public debate among Italian intellectuals and specialists highlights the worry that in Muslim countries only a minority of intellectuals have criticised the call for retaliation issued by religious and extremist political leaders, while conciliatory words pronounced by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after the Pope explained that his speech was "not intended to hurt Muslim feelings" have been cautiously received.
"...only a minority of intellectuals..." Indeed: funny how the Tiny Minority of Extremists never seems to behave like a minority at all.
One thing is sure, though, and it is the heart of the matter: Rome cannot afford to fail to integrate Italian Muslims and to enhance their attachment to national democratic and constitutional values if it is to avoid a bitter political and social conflict..Since both assimilation-oriented policies and multiculturalism are considered unsatisfying models for effective integration strategies, Italy faces inner divisions among policy-makers and within the public about the right way to address the question. Muslim communities are rapidly becoming necessary interlocutors for shaping new political courses.
Compared with Britain, the Netherlands or Germany, Italy still has a relatively small Muslim population (less than one million in a total of 57 million) and, furthermore, its Muslim communities are politically less integrated than in these other European countries.
In late August, after an anti-Israel advertisement by the Union of Italian Islamic Communities (UCOII), which was widely condemned for being anti-Semitic (it compared Israel's military actions to Nazi brutalities), Amato proposed the draft of a Charter of Values whose details are now being studied. The Charter would set out Italy's basic democratic, constitutional rights and obligations, and provide for acceptance among Muslim communities of republican, liberal-democratic values.
Members of the right-of-centre opposition have sharply criticised the government for "too soft" an approach, and vociferously called for the ban of UCOII. Former ministers like Maurizio Gasparri and Roberto Castelli said Rome should disband and outlaw UCOII, or at least suspend it from the recognised Muslim organisations. The government has said such a move would be unrealistic since UCOII is by far the most important Muslim association, although it is rapidly becoming the most controversial as well.
More importantly, UCOII leaders themselves have adopted a flexible approach to the government's proposal. "Our organisation unanimously recognised the mistake made in the communication form (chosen for the advertisement), which was used by many to lambaste us", UCOII said in a statement Sep. 3. "Our religion forbids us to express any racial discrimination and obliges us to respect Christians and Jews alike."
In past centuries, UCOII added, "Islamic jurisprudence provided the framework for religious tolerance and harmony in the East, in Sicily, in North Africa and Turkey."
Sure, plenty of tolerance and harmony as long as Christians and Jews knew their place.
UCOII then agreed to openly discuss Amato's proposal. Such a choice appears in line with recent attempts made both by Rome and by Muslim communities to define a broad framework for the creation of an Italian Islam, an issue considered particularly delicate and important....The biggest challenge for Rome is to rapidly find a just and effective solution, combining adequate education offers, political participation, and rules to be respected -- a goal that will be reached only if extremist factions on both sides are successfully marginalised.
...which will not happen as long as no one, Muslim or non-Muslim, confronts the jihad ideology.
The chart of value is a piece of paper. It has no meaning for a muslim to sign a piece of paper written by the infidel.
Amato is a dumbass idiot, together with the rest of lefty government.
Our religion (Islam) forbids us to express any racial discrimination and obliges us to respect Christians and Jews alike.
Do these people really believe this bullcrap? How occluded can one be? Or, are they consciously spouting lies?
Humiliation and wretchedness were stamped on the Jews and they were visited with Allah’s wrath.
--- Allah talking about himself in the 3rd person and condeming Jews in Koran 2:61
Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.
--- God commanding Moslems to discriminate against Christians & Jews in Koran 5:51
Allah’s Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he is a black African slave whose head looks like a raisin."
--- Mohammed spouting racist slander in Bukhari Vol 9 Bk 89 No 256
Sure, plenty of tolerance and harmony as long as Christians and Jews knew their place.
Part of the problem seems to be we've forgotten that Rome is the place of Christians.
If muslims have no good values to begin with, how can they be expected to conform to the west's values in which they abhor? They refuse to allow their women freedom, whether to dress as they wish, work, have a say in raising their children, or just in the marital bed.
If they have no respect for other people anyway, I don't see how we can force them to begin. I think all we can do is contain them. To themselves. Or ship them back home.
Thank god for Oriana Fallaci's books and haunting presence, and thank god for Magdi Allam at the Corriere and on the RAI. And thank god for the published views -- "Senza Radici" -- of the Pope discussing Islam and the future of the West with Michele Pera, views which he cannot take back, amend, or otherwise undercut, out of fear of Muslim retribution against helpless Christians (which surely explains every one of his statements of the last few weeks).
And thank god for Indro Montanelli, who until his death at 91 managed to offer history lessons in the Fascist Period and also in what came after: who, what, where, why, first in Il Giornale, which he directed, and where his collaborators included Manlio Cancogni, and those who learned from him included all sorts of others, including Beppe Severgnini (according to Severgnini himself, as an acquiantance heard him say during a recent lecture at M.I.T.).
The current head of the Italian government is the incurably dull Professore Prodi, a man perfectly at home as the E.U. apparatchik he once was, offering every kind of assistance to the Muslims, parroting every deux-riviste cliche about the "Euro-Arab" Dialogue, the Two Sides of the Mediterranean, during his atrocious speech at the "library" (the building is there, but as Roy Campbell would say, where are the bloody books?)of Alexandria.
A new immigration law had given Italy a fighting chance to turn away the tens of thousands of illegals who arrive from Africa. These immigrants, smuggled from Libya by Arabs, are a nightmare for the Italians, and at long last measures were in place so that the boats might be seized, the immigrants quickly brought to Lampedusa, and then returned as promptly as possible back to their countries of origin, is now under attack.
Prodi won, just, because Berlusconi was too outrageous, too big a crook, too intolerable in so many ways. It was mainly a vote against, not a vote for. He should remember that. Or if he can't (Prodi is maddeningly dull -- the same pro-Arab policies, for example, of Andreotti, but without the sometimes amusing ripostes of the latter to criticism, on display even at his Perugia trial), then possibly others will remember for him.
Muslims are not to be trusted to their own recognizance, like bad little monkeys that must be watched all the time. They got such a poor role model from their prophet, at times they are bad little murderous monkeys. Make all the rules of assimilation you want, but the little monkeys must be kept on a short leash when mixing with humans, and kept locked up at night. Tolerance will happen when they show us otherwise, that we can trust them. Until then, keep them under a weary eye, or they'll eat your pasta.
"Our religion forbids us to express any racial discrimination and obliges us to respect Christians and Jews alike." –UCOII Press Release
“The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51” –UCOII Governing Doctrine
Islamic and Western societies are incompatible. The sooner this is realized, the better it will be for all involved, including the Muslims. This open wound needs to be covered in salt and rubbed with sand paper.
There are reports in the German Press that several mosques have been decorated with swastikas in green paint and some set alight in France
Berlusconi more outrageous than Prodi? He lost because he is a crook?
Berlusconi lost because the left lied on everyhting, during the electoral campaign, and now every lie is becoming evident: everything Berlusconi foretold is coming true. Berlusconi may be silly, strange, even ridiculous sometimes, yet his opponents are far worse, in many fields including that of honesty, and when it comes to the mixture between politics and affairs nobody is a bigger gamgster than Prodi. He is only a lot more powerful with the establishment than Berlusconi, being essentially an outsider could ever be.
Whoever bets on the Italian left, bets to get another little piece of Eurabia.
When I think of Italian values, I think of sports cars, Sophia Loren, good wines, great dinner dishes....etc.
When I think of presenting these values to Muslems....I think of: What a waste!!!!
"When I think of Italian values, I think of sports cars, Sophia Loren, good wines, great dinner dishes....etc."
-- from a posting above
Not the contents of the Uffizi? Not every corner of every street in Rome? Not every piazzetta Matteotti in every hill-town in Umbria?
Just the contents of Gourmet, or Leisure & Travel, or Conde Nast Traveller, with all those "Lorenza de' Medici" condiments for sale?
Sounds to me like il professore aka il Mortadella is headed for one of the ditches in the eighth circle of Hell.
Maybe he'll run into Mo "seminator di scandalo e di scisma" - "sower of scandal and schism"
If the Italians could for a moment imagine their beautiful Umbrian
countryside littered with neon-covered minarets; Boticelli's Venus
covered in a chador; the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel plastered over
with Arabic calligraphy; then maybe they would find the courage to confront the external jihad.
"Just the contents of Gourmet, or Leisure & Travel, or Conde Nast Traveller, with all those "Lorenza de' Medici" condiments for sale?" -- from poster above
Sadly and foolishly, many in the West have come to view these things and many more as 'givens'. To that list we can also add the Bill of Rights and computer chips. There are no guarantees that those things are forever, and it's the height of folly to believe they might be. These things are powerful, but also fragile. If such things are taken for 'granted' such things become extremely brittle and precarious. Over the long span of time, the only things which last are the things which are valued beyond all others, and tended with great care.
As for "...Abou Jahjah's notorious statement that "assimilation is cultural rape"; this sadly corresponds directly to the poisonous post modern anti-colonialist Western notion that "assimilation is cultural rape" as long as it's the West which is doing the imposing, but not the other way around.
How ludicrous, for example, is the idea that our newscasts and local governments often list "Kwanzaa" along with Hannakuh or Christmas in an attempt to be 'culturally inclusive' and 'sensitive'?
Kwanzaa is nothing more than a cynical hoax -- It's an invention by a radical black seperatist bent on harming Western Culture and increasing the divisions between the races -- in short -- a Black Racist. Now this swill is widely and unquestioningly embraced. The 'inventor' of this fake, ludicrous, and degrading 'pan African' 'celebration' was a black panther, and an anti-American communist insurrectionist. Steeped in all kinds of stupid, preposterous and insulting mumbo jumbo which only serves to perpetuate unpleasant stereotypes of Blacks in America, we all meekly play along rather than objecting to the harm it causes. God forbid that the things I say would ever be brought up in 'mixed' society. (that would be any group of thinking adults mixing with child-like post modern leftist deconstructionists for example -- race has nothing to do with what I'm saying...)
But it's a classic example of the way even racist spurious and despicable hoaxes are given credence if they even have the appearance of emanating from non-White non-Western culture and are being imposed in the West...
I'd suggest that a white racist could hardly have come up with a better 'holiday' to marginalize and stigmatize blacks in America than Kwanzaa. Take a look at the bilious swill at the "Official Kwanzaa Web Site" by the concoctor of said 'celebration'.
http://www.officialkwanzaawebsite.org/index.shtml
Somehow telling the truth these days, or contemplating the idea that one culture may be superior to another is so anathema that such discussions are unutterable in public, unless the discussion is about how non-White non-Western non-Christian culture is always better, or that the only reasons non-White non-Western non-Christian cultures suffer is because of something the White Western Christian culture did, is doing, or will do.
THIS is the disease we suffer from in the West. THIS is the hole we've bashed in the protective walls around our society. Having somehow been persuaded by the 'elite' in the West that such walls are a bad thing, or that the such walls are no longer necessary we have allowed ourselves to become mortally compromised. This is the same hole through which the batallions of Islam are pouring in their millions into our dominions. This is our modern day idolatry.
In an irony for the ages, the breach we've created ourselves is the same breach that the Muslims intuit our weaknessess and our susceptibility and our apparent unwillingness to fight for our heritage. It's the one thing I agree with the Muslims about:
We are a decadent society ripe for takeover. We've volunteered to lay ourselves at the alter of our false beliefs in this manner. It doesn't matter if such things were done with the best of intentions. And whether we deserve to be annihilated is an altogether different question. I think I'd disagree with most Muslims on whose beliefs should be annihilated, but I see their point.
I'm coming to believe that Islam is a symptom of an immuno-compromised culture. To the extent that Islam is flourishing is the extent to which that culture has already lost the battle to protect itself against opportunistic infection. And the infection of Islam is most ominous for it plays on all the other social ills which have always haunted society -- it feeds on chaos, dissention, hopelessness, backwardness, and lack of confidence.
Islam is happy to fill those breaches in us. It is one of the only thing Islam excels at.
Usual BS from the idiotic elites who have not the clue, and cannot differentiate fact from fiction - Muslims do not integrate - period. Why do these idiot's think Muslims are honestly going to respect a piece of paper - in the Netherlands, they try and get Muslims to understand Dutch 'open society' by showing them videos of life in the Netherlands before arriving there, in Germany and the UK, they make them take tests of Britishness or whatever they do in Germany, and now this nonsense from Italy. Until the west has leadership that can actually think with more than just the -2 brain cells that the current leadership have, things are going to continue to get worse.
Well, this is a new one-controlling Muslims by making them sign a piece of paper. At least this idea is somewhat original. And totally laughable. Sounds more like a French idea than an Italian one though.
These people have no incentive to integrate when they see these kinds of stupid ideas being thought up by their enemies. Would anyone want to integrate with such dumbells?
Roguereligion is a Berlusconite, and such persons, just like Muslims, have long since sold their brains. The left lied, did it? The left did not tell enough truth. What about the extra billions of public debt they discovered only after coming to power, eh? Those that your oh-so-clever accountant Tremonti, Berlusconi's favourite - probably the only Finance Minister ever to be put BACK in place after being forced off the job by scandal and growing public deficits - left as inheritance to the government to follow? What about a justice law designed to avoid Berlu-scummy and his corrupt lawyer (you know, the one who helped him steal a country house and estate from the Marchioness Casati, where he now holds court in the style of the Milanese aristocrat he is certainly not - who helped him steal it, and was rewarded with the Ministry of Defence) from winding up in jail where they belong? What about a crazy bill that proposed that there could be no appeal against an absolution? People like Roguereligion make me see red. I am rather conservative myself, and Catholic with it, but Berlusconi is poison and a public enemy. The country desperately needs decent politicians - and look what a frightful lot it inherited, on both sides!
However, you should not mock Amato's proposal. Its purpose is the same as the old questions on American visa and green card questionnaires: are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party? Do you advocate or have you ever advocated the overthrow of the American political system? Not that anyone expected real subversives to answer such questions honestly, but that once they put their signatures there, the state had a legal handle to chuck them out if they proved to have lied. Likewise here: if a Moroccan or Indonesian immigrant signs up to this charter of values and then is shown to have violated it - whoops, there you go, boy, back to Morocco or Indonesia. It is a legal instrument placed in the hands of police and immigration authorities, and an implicit threat against extremists.
There's a whole new approach to the cause of this problem. Theory is that polygamy causes a decline in intellectual ability over time. This leads to hatred, hostility instead of meaningful accomplishment. More details are in the column section of catholicfundamentlism.com
If theory is correct, explains everything.
THE WORSHIP OF DIVERSITY CAN BE CO-OPTED FOR OUR CAUSE
What I find fascinating about this continuing debate is the naive assumption that if Muslim immigrants are forced to pass some sort of test to determine their "Britishness"... or "Dutchness"....etc, that they will then become officially "integrated."
It is a childish fallacy, born of the European belief in the omnipotence of government. Muslims will not jettison their core beliefs easily....particularly to embrace a self-repudiating culture like the one we've developed in the West.
The only solution would seem to be to limit the growth of the Muslim population by implimenting severe immigration restrictions. But as we all know, this would be overt discrimination, which is anethema to established Western traditions and ethics.
There is an answer though: Europe could embrace the terminology and ethos of the Left by developing an immigration policy based on "diversity". This would essentially entail diversifying the immigrant base by bringing in more East Asians, sub-Saharan Africans and Latin Americans, to the exclusion of North Africans, Middle Easterners and Western Asians.
Muslim immigration would be curtailed, not as part of an anti-Muslim policy, but only incidentally, as part of a larger goal of insuring the construction of a truly diverse, truly multi-cultural society...instead of the bi-cultural one that Europe is currently embarked upon. All this, in the name of diversity which after all has become the code-word of everything that is good and wholesome in the Leftist (mainstream European) worldview.
Ahhhhh, wonderful diversity.
"What about the extra billions of public debt they discovered only after coming to power, eh? "
because this has very much to do with your Diliberto and Bertinotti spreading their cheecks for muslims... giving away the rooms in the parliament to islamofascist discussing the disintegration of israel. How good, how clever.
BTW, your friends at the left are not saying anymore we are poor, we sent troops in Lebanon and paid an awful lot of politicians in the parliament to make everybody happy, therefore now WE ARE RICH, no more public debt
To defend the muslims is stupid, but defending the italian left is even more.
"What about a justice law designed to avoid Berlu-scummy and his corrupt lawyer from winding up in jail where they belong?"
I'd rather have lawyers out than 15000 rapists, drug dealers, robbers most of which MUSLIMS out.
Or I wish the latter to come to pay visit nearby YOU.
"What about a crazy bill that proposed that there could be no appeal against an absolution?"
which didn't pass, only in your communist dreams
"People like Roguereligion make me see red. "
it happens to all communists
"I am rather conservative myself, and Catholic with it, but Berlusconi is poison and a public enemy. "
that's typical of the envious people who aren't able to make money themselves.
Fact is restraint on immigration, police enforce and no tolerance for multi culti bullshit is historically secured by the other side.
You are a catholic from the left, how sad, you have to vote the ruins of Democrazia cristiana. People like De Mita, Bianco etc.
And you whine about corruption. You should shut the fuck up.
Or the pretty boy Rutelli, the stupidest guy of them all.
Your favourite leftist government said the pope should take care of his own security (the swiss guard). How brilliant!
"However, you should not mock Amato's proposal. Its purpose is the same as the old questions on American visa and green card questionnaires: are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?"
and was considered a laughing stock.
"It is a legal instrument placed in the hands of police and immigration authorities, and an implicit threat against extremists."
because we know immigration authority and police have REAL power under a leftist government.
You are just a deluded individual that for personal hate would sign off a whole country in the hands of the losers.
I suppose you never read the several essays on why the left is siding with islam. Or what Oriana Fallaci said about the italian left.
"Having somehow been persuaded by the 'elite' in the West that such walls are a bad thing..."
You Jihad Watchers and your bogeyman "elites". If you believe an "elite" cabal can have this much power, you have lost faith in the West, and demonstrate the same alienation to Western order as do the modern Gnostics. No, there is no "elite" cabal pulling strings -- at least not in the sinister sense you believe; the West is far better than that. There are millions of ordinary, non-"elite" Westerners who have also succumbed to PC Multiculturalism. It is a sea change in consciousness, not some dastardly plot by a few "elites", that is our urgent -- and more difficult-to-solve -- problem now.
I agree, the stupid elites are voted somehow
that's why we need more muslim stpidity at free disposal to convince the masses.
REMOTE CONTROL: "No, there is no "elite" cabal pulling strings.....There are millions of ordinary, non-"elite" Westerners who have also succumbed to PC Multiculturalism."
Do you think this happened by accident?
It is a phenomenon that has been carefully orchestrated....by our media and politicians, but mostly by our educational establishments. There was no back-room conspiracy by a tiny group of influential persons per se, but if you know anything about the seminars our public school teachers must attend, you'll know there is indeed both a methodology for propagandizing and inculcation.....as well as a clear bias in what is to be taught and how...at least insofar as the humanities is concerned.
Who do you think makes the decision to commission the writing of these Left-wing textbooks that so comprehensively distort the historical perspective?
It is NOT "millions of ordinary...Westerners." It is the task-masters of our educational elite, imposing their view of the world first upon our teachers...and through them, upon our youth.
billa:
Don't underestimate inbreeding. Cousin marriage is lawful - and preferred - in sharia.
For did not Mohammed say, as reported by Mustafa P. al-Own:
"Q 5: 57 Verily, the daughter of your aunt or uncle, or even both, is permitted to you. The fuzz on your cuz is da buzz. For is not Allah Loving, Insatiable, Alabama-Bound?"
Prophet Geoff
Cornelius,
"Do you think this happened by accident?"
The phrase "by accident", if it's meant to be contrasted to the only alternative of "planned", would be a limited and misleading phrase. This sea change in consciousness is not some natural process like the shifting of tectonic plates; obviously, human beings and their thoughts and emotions have played a part, and influential men of ideas have had some role in it. But the prevalence of the phenomenon, and the high degree of freedom and goodness -- as well as complexity -- of the societies in which this phenomenon has so much prevailing influence, militate against the theory that it has been successfully managed by some cabal.
"There was no back-room conspiracy by a tiny group of influential persons per se, but if you know anything about the seminars our public school teachers must attend, you'll know there is indeed both a methodology for propagandizing and inculcation"
Your description here is putting the cart before the horse: you imagine that these seminars are being crafted in order to influence teachers, who in turn will influence students. But the far more likely -- though far more difficult to solve -- situation is that the seminar-creators and taskmasters themselves are part of a wider, more amorphous shift in world-view, and that, furthermore, this shift affects the teachers before they ever see a seminar; it's simply in the general atmosphere. The seminar-creators are not some sinister group of social engineers, and the teachers some group of naive innocents: we are all in this together. Only in a totalitarian society could there be this kind of social machination going on, perpetrated by a sinister few against the naive many. This is a far more complex sociological phenomenon, precisely because we live in a very free and good and open society (note: I didn't say "perfect"), and, just as importantly, a very complex, sprawling and sophisticated society.
Just so there's no additional misunderstanding: I am not denying a certain degree of machination and influence by Leftist types throughout the 20th century who have an agenda to reform society. But I don't think it rises above a certain threshhold, and certainly doesn't explain the fact that most ordinary Americans and Europeans out there would still not be capable of saying that Islam itself should be condemned and that most Muslims are following an evil belief system.
Only in a totalitarian society could a minority have the kind of mass effect you and other Jihad Watchers seem to think explains the reason why the West is not doing anything about the problem of Islam (other than running around putting out one Islamic fire after another wherever it pops up). And the West (Europe, North America, Australia) is not only not totalitarian, it manifests varying degrees of the freest, most open and most beneficent collection of societies ever seen in world history.
No, the problem is a far more complex, subtle, and difficult-to-solve shift in consciousness in the West that has developed over the last 50-odd years (with roots going further back in time, of course).
FEdUp: sei un coglione. Io non sono un democristiano ne' tantomeno un democristiano di sinistra. E il tuo pietoso argomento che chi si oppone a Berluscemo e' un invidioso non sembra aver posto per il fu Giovanni Agnelli, che lo chiamava un bugiardo e un dilettante da tener lontano dal governo. Da giovane, sostenevo il grande Ugo La Malfa; adesso, non trovo in nessuno dei due spiegamenti un solo politicante degno di essere sputato in faccia. Misero stronzetto senza mente, quanti soldi hai mai fatto tu, esattamente? O ti esalti soltanto perche' uno stronzo piu' grande di te ne ha fatti - come ne ha fatti? Ammiratore di ladri e canaglie, tu e quelli come te vi meritate tutto quello che il vostro spregevole testadicazzo in capo ha inflitto al paese.
REMOTE_CONTROL,
1) Have you ever heard of Antonio Gramsci? If not, google him and read about his theories of pedagogy and their potential for radical social transformation. The state of academe today is his blueprint realized to a tee.
2) Edward Said was himself a cabal, operating not in secret, but openly. This man singlehandedly did more to corrupt higher education than anyone before or after. His attacks on the use of empiricism in the study of non-Western cultures were accepted as gospel. Standards have never been the same. He set out to transform the academic world and succeeded beyond his wildest dreams.
These are just two examples of the un-official cabal that you deny exists.
What you seem to be missing sir is that unlike the rest of our society, which is every bit as benign as you insist, the university is a medieval institution governed by archaic rules and is in many respects - to use your word - totalitarian.
When that librarian was recently dismissed at the U of Wisconsin (or some such northern school) for promoting "homophobic" literature, the entire faculty either voted to dismiss or abstain. Not one Professor stood up for free speech.
Why? Were these Professors uniformly offended at the books promoted by the man in question? Hardly. Simply put, no one wanted to buck the tide...no one wanted the stigma of supporting "homophobia"...even though the accusation was false to begin with.
This is just one anecdote to shine the light on the extent to which the educational gate-keepers have cultivated a stultifying atmosphere in higher education today where no one dare rock the boat or offend the sacred cows...not student, not administrator....certainly not faculty...at least until one is a full Professor with tenure.
The problem is not as complex as you think, nor is the solution. The introduction of intellectual diversity into our universities by hiring conservative professors and creating conservative cirriculum, would go a long way to resolving the problems of Left-wing indoctrination.
It just takes a sustained effort. Thank God for David Horowitz.
PS - My sister-in-law teaches in the public school system. She attends these seminars and imbibes what she is taught, lock, stock and barrel. We discovered last year that the American women running the seminars on how Islam is to be taught in public schools was a Muslim convert who had retained her Christian name. Can you imagine a seminar attended by public school teachers in which an Evangelical Christian was paid to teach educators how to teach Christianity? I can't.
"FEdUp: sei un coglione."
LOL, I don't vote the left, therefore you are the coglione
"Io non sono un democristiano ne' tantomeno un democristiano di sinistra."
you are just a full blown idiot, a "fighetto" that probably lives out of italy and dares to speak. Go and play the fighetto at your local pub
"E il tuo pietoso argomento che chi si oppone a Berluscemo e' un invidioso non sembra aver posto per il fu Giovanni Agnelli, che lo chiamava un bugiardo e un dilettante da tener lontano dal governo."
LOL, and giovanni agnelli is someone to take into consideration?
BWHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHHAAH
The whole agnelli family is laughable... bunch of retards that never moved a finger to gain what they have. No wonder they go with transexuals prostitutes. Whatever they had they destroyed at the people's expenses.
Oh he's probably your idol since he never worked to create his fortune but his family gave all his wealth. Any idiot with a quarter of a brain could become the king of cars with all the money from the government. Why should I care about what the loser agnelli had to say?
But what do you know, you are in London being a fighetto and don't pay italian taxes...
"Misero stronzetto senza mente, quanti soldi hai mai fatto tu, esattamente?"
I don't judge people by their money, I judge them by their stupidity and you, cheap fighetto, are the lowest level. Plus, you think you are more fighetto writing to me in italian? or because you are a coward? That's what you are a coward like your muslims fanatics. Just a coward would write in his language. Nobody does it here except you when you want to spread insults. Knowing that mods here won't ban you. What a coward loser.
"O ti esalti soltanto perche' uno stronzo piu' grande di te ne ha fatti - come ne ha fatti? Ammiratore di ladri e canaglie, tu e quelli come te vi meritate tutto quello che il vostro spregevole testadicazzo in capo ha inflitto al paese. "
why do you care fighetto? you are playing the good life abroad. Thank god you got the fuck out of here, who needs fighetti like yourself? People so obsessed with money have something wrong in their brain.
You think you are offending me by talking of Berlusconi like that? I am not 12 like you, I don't give a damn about it, I don't even vote him most of the times, it's just that people like you are so stupid that they are fun to kick around. They end up in more contradictions than the muslims.
oooh, the snobbish fighetto that posts about the vatican observer and plays the cool, while rallying for the left because he's jealous of someone with money. Pathetic. Life must suck for you when you know the only side that wants the muslims OUT is the right, the solution will come ONLY from the right, not the dumb amato or mortadella
only lunatics ( = muslims) write with such violence, therefore take your meds fighetto and grow some balls that you obviously don't have. Life is not bad in London washing dishes. Stay there cos the last thing we need is FIGHETTI from london pretending to talk about something they don't know jack shit about.
PS: Idiot fighetto, who do you think you are? some authority? someone with a free pass to write in his language to insult others? here we are talking about the islam problem not your mental masturbations about the italian politics that you don't even live, fighetto.