The geographical reach of this scheme is striking, with known activity in California, Texas, and Louisiana. From Bloomberg:
Sept. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Three naturalized U.S. citizens were indicted by a federal grand jury in California for allegedly acquiring secret U.S. defense information and stolen military equipment and conspiring to send them to Yemen.
The four-count indictment for conspiracy to possess and transmit defense information, attempted unlawful export of defense articles and related charges was handed up Aug. 31 and unsealed today, U.S. Attorney McGregor Scott said.
The men face five to 10 years in prison and fines of $250,000 to $1 million on each count.
"We will use all appropriate legal means at our disposal to detect, disrupt, and hold accountable those who seek to do us harm, whether they act within or outside our borders," Scott said in a statement.
Ahmen Ahmed Ali, 56, of Bakersfield, California, allegedly received secret defense documents from a government undercover agent and transmitted them to Yemen by fax or courier between June 2005 and August 2006, according to the indictment.
He allegedly conspired with Mohamed Al-Rahimi, 62, of Bakersfield, to receive stolen government property, and with Ibrahim A. Omer, of Fort Worth, Texas, to ship military items such as body armor and chemical protective suits to Yemen.
Such items cannot be legally exported from the U.S. without permission of the State Department.
Ali was arrested in Bakersfield today and will appear before Magistrate Theresa A. Goldner in Bakersfield on Sept. 8. Omer was taken into custody in Bossier City, Louisiana, and will make his first court appearance the same day in Shreveport, Louisiana. Al- Rahimi remains at large.
To no one's surprise, all these traitorous crooks are muslims. How long is the west going to continue living in constant fear and suspense with these Trojan(Arab)horses?
America should kick out these people while there is still a chance. Soon it will be too late. The American leadership seems to be in a state of politically correct stupor when it comes to dealing with this cult of murderous thugs known as islam, under the delusion that it is a religion like Christianity and others. They are unable to get it into their heads that islam is an irrational, violent cult that sanctions deceiving, plundering and killing infidels without compunction.
The sooner America gets rid of all members of this evil cult, the better it will be for the other law abiding citizens of this great country.
There is more to this story then they are letting on, it seems.
"``We will use all appropriate legal means at our disposal to detect, disrupt, and hold accountable those who seek to do us harm, whether they act within or outside our borders,'' Scott said in a statement. "
Is said... yet what items were mentioned?
"Body armor" and "chemical protective suits"...
Saudi Arabia is the nuclei, and Yemen is like what’s inside the nuclei.
They face only 5-10 years? Isn’t this like treason? Why is the blow to Muslims always cushioned?
Dunk:
Islam is a religion. Leftism, for many people, is a religion, though they think of themselves as "athiests". There are countless cults in the United States and the world. Islam, is, also, a cult.
If Islam were created today it would be just another anti-Christian or "pseudo-Christian cult" like 'Heaven's Gate' or the 'Jehovah Witnesses'. This is exactly what it is, in fact. We just tend to call it a separate religion, as if it had some legitimacy because of its' age.
Islam is not an US problem. It is a Free World problem. Islam is a global problem. You do not just jettison Muslims out of here - many of whom here are Muslim in name only - and then the problem is solved.
What we can do, however, is start to get serious with Islamists. Not Muslims who do not practice their human sacrificing, blasphemous cult. But Muslims who we call Islamists. Real Muslims.
These guys are the ones opposed to the State. They are at declared war with our people and with our country. These people need to be locked up for declaring war against us.
Militias of these sorts should not be allowed to form within our borders. This is not legal. It is a danger to all of us.
At these mosques these men swear violence against their fellow citizens... men and women, children, and old people... who have done nothing but allow them into their own country, one of plenty, and have returned every piece of their murderous hatred with good kindness.
These such people should be expelled if they have a home country after serving many years in prison. Because Islam is popular in prisons, these preachers of murder and suicide sacrifices should serve their sentences in solitary confinement. All such Islamists should do that.
For too long we have not touched Islamists because it is a religion. We have been scared. We have done the same with other violent cults who have spilled much blood on our soil. It is time to start arresting these people and stop watching them.
Pakistan has the nuclear bomb today because we let their main scientist go. We said, "We will watch him" instead of arresting him for espionage or killing him. Now, there is an "Islamist" bomb.
There are laws and a right way to do things. There is nothing wrong with punishing those who are guilty, but it is important to note what it is they are guilty of and base those accusations on solid evidence no one can refute.
I live in Kern County, thank God (capital "G") they were caught here. They will fry. I hope the rest of America wakes up before we have another 9-11.
Ofcourse:
"Saudi Arabia is the nuclei, and Yemen is like what’s inside the nuclei.
They face only 5-10 years? Isn’t this like treason? Why is the blow to Muslims always cushioned?"
On their sentence, we don't know what they did. All that is reported is protective... yet it is strongly implied they were trading something dangerous. Maybe they turned state's evidence against some fellow Muslims who have plans to turn their neighbors into food for their mosque prayers. (Sarcasm, as they tell these kinds of lies about their infidel neighbors, the lying pigs that they are.)
Yemen, as far as I know, is nothing. Nothing to do with Saudi, their "holy" land. It was partly Communist for sometime and is very impoverished now. OBL was, at one time, considering fighting the Communists there. (Marxists, "Socialists", whatever, same difference.)
Just another completely worthless Muslim country whose singular contribution to the world is the fact someone else found oil there.
Do you think they were Muslim? Why jump to conclusions. Let's wait until the media reveals more info, OK?
jsla:
"Do you think they were Muslim? Why jump to conclusions. Let's wait until the media reveals more info, OK?"
That they are anything but Muslim is highly unlikely, even considering that Yemen was partly Communist for awhile.
These are not free nations where people may choose their own religion. These are Muslim nations.
Was this for Islamist causes or for state causes that these men did these things? Were they work for a Yemeni terrorist group or were they run of the mill spies?
What did they steal? What were they shipping? Why was their sentence so light? Why is the press statement hard against them but the information given about their crimes so innocuous?
These guys and similarly others like them have been trading trade secrets between nations for years. Remember the Chinese been stealing M-secrets, God knows for how long. In most cases the Government agencies know about these people long before their names are made available to the Joe public. These guys are a small fry compared to what the Pakies were able to steal under the direct nose of CIA, UK's MI5 and European Secret Services - the complete blueprints and plans to make Nuclear weapons.
from jsla: Do you think they were Muslim? Why jump to conclusions. Let's wait until the media reveals more info, OK?
Let's examine their names:
Ahmen Ahmed Ali, Mohamed Al-Rahimi, and Ibrahim A. Omer.
Isn't Ahmed an Irish Catholic name? And the name Mohamed, I've heard it somewhere before...perhaps Scandinavian? Chinese? Scientologist? Mormon? Yeah...and isn't Yemen a hotbed of radical Buddhism?
HMMMMM:Ahmen Ahmed Ali, Mohamed Al-Rahimi,----I think I have Islamaphobia, I think I see a connection.
Do not allow Muslims to hold political office.
Do not allow Muslims to become public officials.
Do not allow Muslims to buy or own land it the US.
Do not allow Muslims to teach in your schools.
Do not allow Muslims in the police or Military.
Do not allow Muslims to become agents in your business.
Do not allow Muslims to become school bus drivers.
Do not allow Muslims to openly protest openly supporting terrorists or terrorist nations.
Ban Muslim Immigration NOW.
Profile NOW in airline, bus and train terminals.
Monitor all activities in and around Mosques.
Do not all Mosques to be built.
Deport all Muslims convicted of arson, murder, rape, assault, vandalism, criminal mischief,robbery,fraud, visa violations, passport violations,traffic violations,or any anti American Activity.
Ban Burkas, face coverings, and any other item which conceals identity or makes it easier to conceal weapons.
and the list goes on and on.
Ban Islam and the Qur'an.
Since Americans felt the need to ban prayer in school, ban prayer at school sporting functions amd have demanded the removal of the ten commandments from every place it was displayed, I think it is fair to Ban Islam and the Qur'an from public view.
The American dhimmicrats and the ACLU and the likes of Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farakhan, Murtah, Pelosi, Rangle,Kennedy,the mainstream media are such losers and have actually helped ruin the pursuit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. (just my opinion--of course)
Such items cannot be legally exported from the U.S. without permission of the State Department.
So, if they had filed the correct papers; paid the correct fees; it would all be a none issue.
But why were these individuals in a position to obtain and "...possess and transmit defense information..." or even given the opportunity to "...attempt(ed) unlawful export of defense articles" in the first place!?
I know George, I know; thanks for reminding me... "they work cheap" and "they were only taking jobs that Americans did not want, or are too stupid to do."
Now what about those missle codes -- how many islamic programmers do we have involved with that project; oh yes, can't discuss that one can we -- "national security reasons!"
Right!
Why are we bringing in Yememis again?
Oh, I remember, it was that reverse racism law the egregious Teddy Kennedy put into place way back when.
Like Mary Jo Kopechne, we too are now being sucked down into Davey Jone's Locker by the moron Teddy.
What the heck, these guys names seem to sound like Islamic muslim names.. Surely these guys are not part of the cult .. er I mean, religion of peace. I am totally dismayed and perplexed as well. Say it ain't so, Ali!
I have another crisis of political correctness and I am having an attack of MORMONOPHOBIA, to avoid profiling of any kind.
NovaRocketMan Yemen has been trying to expand Islam from the beginning of Islam. It is also the source of the most ruthless forms of Islam. So what if it is a poor country; their impoverishment just makes it that much easier for them to hate non-Islamic entities.
Secondly, let me give you some known facts about Muslims: They never turn into fellow citizens or reliable neighbours; and irregardless of how long you lived peacefully side-by-side and how long the Muslims have diverted themselves from the true Islam, they will always have allegiance to expanding the Nation of Islam, and they will not hesitate to turn to violence to put you and your country down. Let me give you a few examples in the form of real-life stories:
1. Two neighbours, one a Christian household and the other a Muslim household. For 30 years the Christians supported the Muslims in the form of food when they didn’t have enough; the Muslims never hesitate to ask the Christians for help, and the Christians never hesitate to help with the utmost kindness. One day, after 30 years of living peacefully side-by-side, the Muslims attacked the Christians. The Christians said, “Why are you attacking us? We have been nothing but good to you for 30 years, and we have become like a family.” The Muslims replied, “Because you are Christian.”
2. Two people, one Christian and the other Muslim. They grew up together as close friends from babes up to the age of 50. One day, the Christian was shopping and all of the sudden he was he hit from behind. Turning around, he saw it was his long-time Muslim friend. Shocked, he exclaimed, “Why are you beating me?” The Muslim said, “Because you hold this profession, and my son is entering that profession. A Christian should not be better than a Muslim in anything. I demand that you quit!”
Read the book The Haj by Leon Uris.
All of this "examination" of the problem is part of the problem. We need clear, pragmatic solutions to a clearly defined enemy.
I am pretty much an idiot but even a dope like me can figure this shit out. Here:
The Enemy: islam and the muslims that spread it.
The Solution: forced detention, deportation, and execution.
I would like to add The Justice.
The Justice: colonization of muslim lands and the wholesale slaughter of native muslims.
Fry those traitors!
Ahmen Ahmed Ali, 56, of Bakersfield, California...conspired with Mohamed Al-Rahimi, 62, of Bakersfield...
Muslim "youths".
Jonathan Pollard has been in a US jail for nearly 22 years for telling the Israelis of an Iranian plot to blow up Israel.
It's one of the longest sentences in the history of spying - and he was helping an ally of the USA.
Does that mean America views Israel as their worst enemy?