"U.S. Rejects Visa for Muslim Scholar," from AP, with thanks to Morgaan Sinclair:
NEW YORK - The government has rejected a prominent Muslim scholar's application to enter the country, contending that he gave support to a terrorist group, but his attorneys allege the U.S. is using charitable donations he made as a pretext for stifling his views.Tariq Ramadan, a Swiss citizen who teaches at Oxford University, was denied a temporary business and tourism visa Thursday "based solely on his actions, which constituted providing material support to a terrorist organization," said Janelle Hironimus, a State Department spokeswoman.
Hironimus said she could not reveal specifics about Ramadan's case due to confidentiality rules regarding visa applications.
The American Civil Liberties Union said the U.S. government notified Ramadan he was being excluded because he donated $765 to French and Swiss organizations that provide humanitarian aid to Palestinians.
The ACLU said the organizations are legitimate charities in France, but the Bush administration contends the groups gave funds to the Islamic militant group Hamas, and has invoked a law allowing it to exclude individuals whom it believes have supported terrorism.
The ACLU said the decision to bar Ramadan amounts to censorship.
"This case is really about speech," said Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU lawyer. "The government is using the immigration laws as a means of silencing and stigmatizing a prominent cleric."
No, this case is about terror-financing charities and dissimulation.
Unbelieveable. Banging on about censorship but censoring Dennis Mitsubishi's very humorous ad. (Has someone published that one online?)
When will Catherine Fourest's "Frere Tariq" be translated and published in English? Now that Ramadan has been exposed in France, both through his televised debates (including one with Sarkozy, and another, even more devastating, with Alain Finkielkraut), and through articles and books by no-nonsense people who set out his sinister taqiyya-and-tu-quoque, he had to get out of the French-speaking arena. He had also not had his contract renewed at the Univesity of Geneva.
St. Antony's College, Oxford (Middle Eastern wing), not to be confused with St. Antony's College, Oxford (Russian and East European wing), and certainly not to be confused with the undergraduate colleges, where practically since its founding (with money provided by the estate of Antoine or Anton Besse, a Jewish trader in the Yemen who would not have been pleased with how his money has been spent), the fiefdom of Albert Hourani for several decades, and home of Avi Shlaim (of whom no more later), offered Tariq Ramadan a place from which, temporarily, to conduct his campaigns of Da'wa and dissimulation, and conduct them -- with all sorts of soft-voiced earnestness, with appeals to a "European Islam" (carefully left entirely undescribed, and certainly whatever might distinguish it from ordinary, Middle Eastern Islam is never quite gotten to, in the presentations by Tariq Ramadan).
He has his eye on the prize: the United States. It is there that he wishes to conduct his campaign among those he senses are sufficiently stupid to give him free rein. After all, he has only had contact with the likes of Scott Appleby, head of the Kroc Center (Joan Kroc, wanting to do good, like so many of the very rich, and unable, like so many of the very rich, to choose wisely, wanted to help promote "world peace" which, these days, will always somehow end up being handed out by the scott-applebys to the tariq-ramadans of this dialoguing-to-death, getting-to-yes, all-gods-chillun-want-exactly-the-same-thing-if-only-we-understood-one-another society.
He is a worthy grandson of that grandsire who founded the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928, Hassan al-Banna,who used to whip up Cairene crowds so that, in fits of enthusiasm, they would then go out and attack Copts and Jews, and whom he refuses to distance himself from ("he was my grandfather" he says, his voice full of filial piety. Would that answer satisfy you if instead of Tariq Ramadan being interviewed was, say, the son of Martin Bormann?).
Keep him out. Whatever it takes.
"This case is really about speech," said Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU lawyer. "The government is using the immigration laws as a means of silencing and stigmatizing a prominent cleric."
Notice the name of the ACLU lawyer. CAIR and the ACLU have joined forces to fight islamophobia and promote islam in America. U.S. taxpayers, as usual, will bear the expenses of every frivilous case the ACLU wins for islam. The ACLU and CAIR are both subversive, anti-American organizations with agendas that are inimical to traditional, mainstream American values. Their recent affiliation, combined with the dominant, left-wing judiciary that controls the courts, does not bode well for America. Another sad example of the minority tyrannizing the majority in the name of "equal" rights.
Congratulations to the US visa issuing authorities for blocking Tariq Ramadan's visa.
He is a deceitful Eurabian so-called intellectual who hates Muslims in Europe converting to Christianity, but shamelessly promotes the conversion of Europeans to Islam.
ACLU - this isn't France.
Decode your name if you need a reminder:
AMERICAN civil liberties union.
We don't have a new world order and don't have a world government. We won't be having one any time soon.
Defend Americans you idiots! You are defending Hamas! You suck!
Bad example Hugh - Martin Bormann's son became a Catholic priest - see Wiki
Martin Bormann and his wife Gerda, who died of cancer in 1946, had ten children together, all of whom survived the war. Most were cared for anonymously in foster homes. His oldest son Martin was Hitler's godson. He became a Roman Catholic priest, but later left the priesthood to marry an ex-nun and become a teacher of theology.
"European Islam" sounds interesting - I shall draw up the specification and anyone joining will have to adhere very carefully to the rules I lay down.
I have written a note to the ACLU in a 'contact' page on its site:
Dear ACLU employee,
I've read an Associated Press article which quotes Jamal Jaffer, one of your lawyers... I can't believe that we would try to frame the denial of a visa for Tariq Ramadan in terms of a 'free speech' argument. Ramadan supports terrorist organizations in principle and with money.
You are supporting Hamas, not Americans.
Please consider what I'm saying. The name of your organization is 'AMERICAN' civil liberties union, not something else. Tariq Ramadan isn't an American. You also argue that the charities that Ramadan used to move money to Hamas are 'legitmate charities in France' .... You're in the United States and are supposed to be protecting and defending the rights and liberties of Americans... invoking what is or isn't legitimate in France is non-sequitor.
Stop defending people who would deny americans their rights and liberities in the name of a belief system properly translated 'Submission'. Islam means submission when translated by honest individuals.
Islam is antithetical to the rights and institutions your Union is chartered to defend! You are supporting and defending the enemies of the United States. Stop doing this!
Here's a link to the article:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=2489358
Why wasn't Khatami denied a visa a few weeks back?
Oh well,better late than never as regards this guy.
We let those Iranian Pigs in not too long ago... why not this moonbat?
Here is a series of articles in English - most translated from the French, though there is one of Robert's pieces: http://www.voltairenet.org/article132783.html#article132783. All on out subject. There is a piece by Catherine Fourest, a reply by Frère Tariq and several other interesting pieces which may be new to readers here.
Ramadan is a terrorist, he defends them, he aids them, he excuses them. In any small way if you assist terrorists you are one of them.
The ACLU, CAIR and other conduit groups to Al Qaeda must be fuming, let them fume!
I suspect Bush & Co. are doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. They consistently deny Tariq Ramadan a visa only because of a mechanical technicality -- his name pops up on their bureaucratic radar as a supporter of a designated terrorist organization, so he is to be automatically denied a visa, like a machine. I doubt that Bush & Co. are even capable of appreciating the deeper more cogent reasons (which Hugh has articulated more than once here at JW) why Tariq Ramadan should be denied a visa.
I sympathize with the ACLU on this. Like the Islamic "charities" receiving funds to finance terror operations and spread global Sharia, the ACLU also received funds from the likes of Comintern and other organizations to fund local revolution and spread global Pinko.
610 * 623 * 732 * 1066 * 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001
It chilling to think that an ACLU counsel, Ruth Ginsberg, got appointed to and sits on the Supreme Court. But, then again, she was appointed by a guy who set loose the US Air Force and US Navy to bombard Christian cities and villages for having the nerve to finally put up resistance against Jihad terror in the Balkans.
This is the type of news I like to hear. Too bad they had to let that Iranian monster in to speak at the circus of the U.N.
well , you should let Tariq rat come in USA ..only to shoot him down like a pig
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I agree with your reasons. They have not got it yet.