The dhimmis in Belgium are beginning to awaken to the fix they're in. Still, a large number would happily throw freedom of speech overboard. From Expatica, with thanks to Fjordman:
BRUSSELS - More then six citizens in ten fear an increase in religious tensions in Belgium according to a survey by Belgian newspaper Le Soir.A "pessimistic" attitude in contrast with the overall "moderate attitude" of Belgians towards religions, notes the evening paper.
The majority of interviewees supported a 'respectful criticism' of religions, meaning that criticism can be expressed so long as personal religious beliefs are respected.But not all Belgians follow this moderated view: 23 percent are opposed to all critics of religion, half as much as the French notes Le Soir, while 16 percent assume a highly critical standpoint, three times more then in France.
Eric de Beukelaer, spokesman of Belgium's Francophone Bishops, said he was satisfied with the results.
"All religions can be criticised, but there are limits," he said, emphasizing the difference between "criticising" and "offending someone in his or her conviction."
The CAL, the Centre for Secular Action (Centre d’Action Laïque), agreed, although its president, Philippe Grollet said that 23 percent of Belgians thinking religion should not be criticised is "too much." He deplores such attitudes which leave no space for debate.
Abdelmajid Mhauchi, Belgians representative of the European Muslim Network, said that Belgium has a long history of conflict between Seculars and Catholics and has learnt to respect religious liberties. "As a Muslim" he said "I accept critics of Islam … but I cannot tolerate mockery and provocation."
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Despite these reasonable views, 60 percent of the people interviewed predict an increase in tensions between Christians and Muslims with Flemish men being the most pessimistic.
The Flemish are brave Dutch-speaking people. Together with the Nordic Scandinavians and Germanic Dutch and Germans we shall prevail over Islam when the action gets hot. It will not be long from now. The Germanic people will repopulate France and the southern European states when the people there are brought down to small numbers at the time the conflict is over. It is our purpose and destiny.
"The majority of interviewees supported a 'respectful criticism' of religions, meaning that criticism can be expressed so long as personal religious beliefs are respected."
This attitude has got to change. Why on earth should we respect a worthless religion like Islam? Respect has to be earned, and all Islam has earned is contempt.
It will not be long from now. The Germanic people will repopulate France and the southern European states when the people there are brought down to small numbers at the time the conflict is over. It is our purpose and destiny.
Are you joking? I hope that you are joking. Why can't you people just draw your borders, and concentrate on ruling yourselves properly and fairly. Why do you need to dominate everyone? Well, go ahead and try it, the English people kicked your ass before and they will again.
The British created Belgium to keep the French away from the Dutch but looks like the French thought it would make a nice Imperial Capital for them to rule Europe......................but maybe Belgium is just going to disintegrate
Most Europeans will go at any length to make the wider public believe that:
- they are very tolerant,
-that people in their country are not racist,
-thatMuslims are needed to keep the economy going
....and so on and so forth.
They live in a phantasy world of gentle and friendly people and believe the slogans of the tourist pamphlets through which their country is promoted.
It is hard to find Europeans who don't have this ostrich-like attitude.
Muslims take advantage of all what they perceive as the weakness of Europeans.
I don't think Europeans will react until it is too late because responsible European leaders are still nowhere in the horizon.
Are you joking?
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Of course I am not referring to the infamous Aryan World Mission, but if you look at the map of Europe, it does not take a militairy genius to understand that Italy, France, Spain and former Yougoslavia will be the first targets of the big thug in chief and will also be the worst-hit parts of Europe.
Abdelmajid Mhauchi, Belgians representative of the European Muslim Network, said that Belgium has a long history of conflict between Seculars and Catholics and has learnt to respect religious liberties. "As a Muslim" he said "I accept critics of Islam … but I cannot tolerate mockery and provocation."
That's a hot one. Merely asking the most innocent of questions is enough to be considered a provocation from these thin skinned kooks.
The only way this guy would accept an actual critic of his cult would be with a hail of bullets-most likely fired from behind.
"I can not tolerate mockery and provocation" bwahahahahah!
Abdelmajid Mhauchi, Belgians representative of the European Muslim Network, said that Belgium has a long history of conflict between Seculars and Catholics and has learnt to respect religious liberties. "As a Muslim" he said "I accept critics of Islam … but I cannot tolerate mockery and provocation."
He, though, doesn't say that the Muslims have learned to respect religious liberties one would note. Also, he obviously doesn't "get" Occidentals--by saying that he "cannot tolerate mockery and provocation" he is just opening himself up for it!
As a Belgian, I hope I may make some comment on the above. First of all, Herr Wolfenstein, I hope that was sarcasm, otherwise I would have to consider you a full-blood Nazi. Been there, done that,read the book and didn't like the Tshirt either. Many Flemings burned themselves with Nazism once before, because they believed the Germans of 1940 would give us our rights as equal citizens (just as they believed of the Germans of 1914) and very few opened their eyes in time to realise how wrong they were; even less apologised for it. I have noticed some enthusiasm for our Vlaams Belang on this site. Part of their party program is unequivocal amnesty for WWII collaborators. It's not the amnesty that's the problem, most people are ready to believe the collaborators were poor, young deluded idealists anyway, or at least that's how they excuse them; it's the unequivocal part that rankles. The least these people, and their descendants (some of whom are prominent VB'rs) can do is say: "Yes, it was terribly wrong to go along with Hitler, Nazism is bad'. Can't have absolution without confession first. And I don't like the way the VB speaks of our french-speaking fellowbelgians. Yes, some are arrogant; most don't speak our language and many flatly refuse; and as I child I was chased around the Kindergarten playground beind called a 'sale flamoetsch', but I grew over that. We're bigger and better than that; we have learned to live with our neighbours and work with them and even help them when they are in difficulty, instead of beating them up. That is what the EU is all about. I've also noticed a lot of EU bashing on this site. You Americans really are the bloody limit. My parents repeatedly told me how, in '45 every single American they met told them 'Why don't yoiu Europeans make a United States like our own good old (sic!) USA, then we don't have to come and rescue you all the time (Hello? Were were you in '14 or '40? It was the Brits who stood up for us,neutral invaded Belgium; you just came in late to finish the job, better late then never so thanks all the same, but give credit were it's due, not just to yourselves) So we've done that, and now you don't like it either. Have you any idea how difficult it is to overcome centuries of prejudice and enmity, not to mention setting aside age-old customs to come to a consensus, a compromise that isn't perfect, but hey, its better than war, just as those '45 GI's told us?
We flemings are exemplary in that respect. Back when Belgium was created the flemish majority was oppressed by the francophone minority who had the coal and steelindustry and therefore economic power. For a 102 years we had no access to education in our own language so we were kept ignorant and therefore poor and docile. Guess what? we have got all our rights, equal status and are now doing better than the Walloons, and that without firing a single rifle or placing a single bomb. As for conflict between secular and religious, that would be our Schoolstrijd, the battle between Free Education (=religious schools, incongruously) and State Education (secular) The worst that can be reported is my grandfather's grandfather being thrown in the canal for sending his kids to the state school back in 1860(he could swim). It has all been resolved remarkably peacefully, if you compare with other nations. we are unlikely to split the country, and if we do, it will be without civil war or other violence. Not even Americans, not even Ghandi can better that. Oh, and you will rarely find a Belgian who braggs about his country, on the contrary, we are heavily critical of ourselves, so this moment of almost chauvinistic pride in my post is a unique occasion, savour it.
What I mean with this post is, it doesn't matter what the package looks like. I'm of germanic origins on my father's side (dutch and german), but on my mothe's there is some french thrown in. I am a Human Being first and foremost (the way ameracans, regardless of their origins call themselves Americans first) and then a Eurocrat, by which I do not mean the derogatory European Bureacrat, but European Democrat. I'm juys as happy with the germanic element as with the latin and of late the slavic element that makes up the EU, and I would not abandon any of them. Islamofacism which is real and present will be dealt with. But I don't want it to be the way some people here advocate, because I want us Europeans to remain Human Beings, and not Nazis. Show respect were respect is due; that is, for Muslims as Human Beings. Mock, just as one mocks one's own. Send back when they are non-EU citizens and have broken the law. Punish to the full extent of the law, when they are. Make no concession to their law (Shariah), but rather make them choose between their Allah and our Welfare State. If they prefer the latter they must conform, if not, Saudi Arabia is the place for them with my blessing. But there is no need to put the boot in before its time; and that does not mean we are all Dhimmis. That's just some politicians. When push comes to shove Europe will prevail. Even in the non-germanic parts. I have greater faith in the french defending their culture than you have, because I know them better. Hell, it took us 102 years, and that was to obtain what was rightfully ours and totally European. Do you really think Islam, that is totally alien, can prevail against French arrogance? Wait and see. All that car-burning cannot hit the core of what Europe is about.