They won't rein in Hizballah, but they'll fire on Israeli planes flying over Lebanon. What did you expect from the UN -- and the Eurabians of France? "Peretz: French UNIFIL commanders say will shoot at IAF overflights," from Haaretz, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
Commanders of the French contingent of the United Nations force in Lebanon have warned that they might have to open fire if Israel Air Force warplanes continue their overflights in Lebanon, Defense Minister Amir Peretz told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee on Monday.Peretz said that nevertheless, Israel would continue to patrol the skies over Lebanon as long as United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701 remained unfulfilled, adding that such operations were critical for the country's security, especially as the abducted IDF soldiers remain in Hezbollah custody and the transfer of arms continue.
Over the past few days, Peretz said, Israel had gathered clear evidence that Syria was transferring arms and ammunition to Lebanon, meaning that the embargo imposed by UN Resolution 1701 was not being completely enforced.
Israel plans to inform the joint committee of representatives of UNIFIL, the Israel Defense Forces and the Lebanese Army that unless the arms transfers are stopped, Israel will be forced to take independent action, Peretz said.
Turning to the situation in the Gaza Strip, Peretz said that Israel could under no circumstances allow the Strip to be turned into a second South Lebanon. According to Peretz, the time when Israel used to check who was sending every missile is over, and the IDF is intent on striking at every terrorist no matter what organization he belongs to.
A strong response would be much more effective than half-hearted forays that demonstrate the cultural weakness at the heart of the West.
The UN is a farce-openly siding with terrorist filth while pretending to be impartial. It's time to move the UN to a more suitable place, like Damascus or Tehran. I hope Israel follows through with its "independent action" because those UN jackasses are absolutely worthless.
Does the commandant of the Frankenstan contingent have the authority to fire on reconaissance aircraft without the ok of the U.N. overlords?
I am pretty sure we all know that Israel would put a serious ass whoopin' on France. Seeing Israel put some of the Frence ships on the bottom of the Mediteranian would make my day.
I believe this is the start of the politics being played by France and we will see alot more. This is the reason they are there. France is going to try and provoke a response and incite violations on Israels side to try and bring the world view further against Israel. No one is caring, will mention, will report that there is no accountability on the Hezbollah side and that once again we have a UN protection force on the ground instead of a peace or enforcement force.
Syrias current ongoing rearming of Hezbollah is not only in violation of UN 1701 but an act of war. Attacking either Hezbollah or Syria at this time would not be in violation of international law.
What is in violation of international law is the ENFORCEMENT of INTERNATIONAL LAW. The UN and France should be brought into the courts by a American class action suit to enforce the laws.
Just think how good the French will look to their muslim insurgents in France. The UNIFIL couls borrow a few Hezbollah missiles and fir them at the Israelis. I'm sure all those car torchers in the Paris ghettos will immediately embrace the French culture .. and squeeze the life out of it.
Come on...
Its the French. They won't shoot to defend their own country.
Amazing. The Frogs wont defend their country from "youths" but will fight Israel to defend Hezbollah????? What gives froggies?
I, too, hope that Israel won't back down. We all know the enemy and it is Pislam. As represented by the hesbos and other groups like hamas and so on.
The UN is worse than worthless. If the French fire on Israelis, I expect the Israelis to return fire. Get the UN out of there. Get the UN out of everywhere...
These two articles put it even more clearly? Eurabia est arrive!!!
DEBKAfile Exclusive: Italy to sell Lebanon sophisticated ground-to-air Aster 15 missiles to stop Israel’s aerial surveillance of hostile movements
October 17, 2006, 12:26 PM (GMT+02:00)
Israeli aircraft monitor illegal Hizballah movements and arms smuggling - in the absence of any Lebanese army and UNIFIL preventive action to implement UN Resolution 1701.
According to DEBKAfile’s Rome sources, prime minister Romano Prodi has instructed his defense ministry to negotiate with the Fouad Siniora government the quick sale of an Aster 15 battery, the only Western surface-to-air missile with an active guidance system capable of last-minute corrections of targeting at the moment of interception.
As a joint Franco-Italian product, the sale also needed - and obtained - approval from French president Jacques Chirac.
Our sources report the Aster 15 will be accompanied by Italian instructors to guide Lebanese troops in their use. Since 50% of those officers are Shiites loyal to Hizballah or Amal, the Shiite terrorists are looking forward to gaining access for the first time to top-of-the-line Western anti-air missile technology.
On Oct. 13, Lebanese chief of staff General Michel Suleiman informed his officers posted on the Lebanese-Israeli border of the Beirut government’s “indefatigable efforts” to obtain anti-air missiles to hit patrolling Israeli aircraft. He added that very soon, Lebanon would also acquire long-range anti-tank rockets to prevent Israeli tanks again crossing the border.
Commanders of the French UNIFIL contingent have threatened to fire on Israeli warplanes in Lebanese skies, according to Israel defense minister Amir Peretz in a briefing to a Knesset panel Monday, Oct. 16.
Israel has so far refrained from protesting to Rome against the Aster 15 sale - any more than it has to Washington, the UN Security Council or UNIFIL over illegal Hizballah movements and arms-smuggling.
The Aster 15 is manufactured by France’s Aerospatiale and Thompson-CSF; its guidance system by the Alenia/Finmeccanica of Italy. Launched from seaborne or land bases, it is designed to hit “maneuverable targets” - aircraft, helicopters, drones or missiles. With a warhead of 3.20 kilos of explosives, the missile has a range of up to 30 km and a maximum speed of 3,600 kph. Aster 15’s two stages are a solid propellant booster and a “dart” equipped with a seeker, a sustainer motor, a proximity fuse and a blast fragmentation warhead.
Most significantly, the French-Italian projectile is the only Western surface-to-air missile with an active guidance system capable of last-minute corrections of targeting at the moment of interception. In the hands of the Lebanese army (and its Hizballah component), the Aster 15 will directly jeopardize Israel’s aerial surveillance of Hizballah and other hostile movements in Lebanon.
DEBKAfile’s political sources once again note the Olmert government’s virtual concealment of the impending threat, its blind eye to UNIFIL’s impotence and its failure to raise an outcry against the missile’s impending delivery to Beirut. Israel’s leaders are strongly motivated by their need to stick to the empty boast of military gains in the Lebanon War and the portrayal of the international force’s deployment in the South as a diplomatic triumph.
In contrast, the teams investigating the IDF’s performance in the war are coming up daily with findings of gross mismanagement. The Israeli missile ship hit by an Iranian anti-ship C-208 cruise missile July 14 - for the loss of four men - was found in the latest report to have omitted to activate the ship’s four missile defense systems, including the Barak anti-missile missile. The ship sailed dangerously close to the Beirut coast with none of the 80 officers and crew manning lookout or attack positions. The panel concluded that there was nothng to stop Hizballah sinking the frigate by ramming it with an explosives-laden boat
Khamenei Brandishes a Kalashnikov at US and Israel
DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis
October 15, 2006, 4:29 PM (GMT+02:00)
The powerful spectacle of Iran’s be-turbaned supreme ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei clutching an automatic rifle, displayed exclusively by DEBKAfile, drew on the belligerent imagery of Yasser Arafat and Saddam Hussein. The Iranian media suppressed this particular shot in its coverage of his sermon at Tehran University Oct. 13, the third Friday of Ramadan. But the AK 47 toted by the ruler of the world’s foremost sponsor of terrorism was not missed by the political and military leaders in his audience and accentuated his war message.
DEBKAfile’s Tehran sources reveal that the Iran’s leaders took three fateful steps ahead of Khamenei’s performance:
1. They pointed up the tradition initiated by the father of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of marking the last Friday of Ramadan as International al Qods Day - “Jerusalem Liberation Day.”
2. Khamenei’s aides leaked word that his decision to hold the sermon of Oct. 13 was prompted by his discovery that the USS Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group was heading for the Persian Gulf and would be deployed in operational mode opposite Iran’s shores by Oct. 21.
3. In Beirut, Iran’s surrogate Hizballah announced the cancellation of its annual military parade on al Qods day, i.e. Oct. 20.
Military circles in the United States and Israel interpret these steps as meaning that Iran will be standing by in battle positions the day before the Eisenhower reaches its destination. DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources have been reporting since late August that Iran’s political and military leaders have resolved not to wait passively for an American attack but to go instead for a pre-emptive strike against US forces in the Persian Gulf and Iraq, as well as targeting Israel.
On October 7, DEBKAfile reported: Tehran and Damascus are gearing up for a pre-emptive attack on Israel to ward off a US strike on Iran’s nuclear sites – whether from Lebanon, or Golan, using Hamas to launch an offensive from Gaza, or a combination thereof. The Bush administration would then have to divide its attention and military might among three warfronts simultaneously.
DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly have exhaustively covered the Iranian Blow of Zolfaqar military exercise ongoing in the Persian Gulf from August and its military’s high war preparedness, as well the US naval, air and marine concentrations due to complete their deployment opposite Iran’s shores by the end of this month.
Khamenei devoted much of his sermon to the Lebanon war waged between Israel and Hizballah in July and August. “The war isn’t finished,” he said. “And the losers will certainly not remain idle. These evil forces are already hard at work to remedy their defeat and Islamic nations need to remain vigilant and ready to react with determination against any other potential attack.”
The supreme ruler continued: "One of the projects of the Americans, Zionists and their allies is to come to Lebanon under the United Nations, officially to defend the Lebanese from the attacks of foreign forces and then change the cards on the table and fight our Hezbollah brothers."
By smearing as fraudulent UN Resolution 1701 which expanded UNIFIL and enforced a ceasefire in Lebanon, Khamenei made a pointed attempt to discredit the world body ahead of the Security Council sanctions session called for this week to punish Iran for continuing to enrich uranium in defiance of UN resolutions.
He was also warning “the foreign forces” (UNIFlL) that “the war was not finished.” A central them of his sermon was therefore “resistance” as “the key to victory.”
The Supreme leader said the Hezbollah (armed by Iran and Syria) had achieved "a unique historic victory” for Islam over “arrogance and colonialism” (Americans and Israelis). "The Lebanon war changed the political equations in the region.”
Settling accounts with the British and the Americans, Khamenei commented, "The British are experts in pursuing that policy (of divide and rule) and they have taught the Americans how to sow the seeds of discord among Shias and Sunnis in Iraq.
Referring to the situation in Iraq, he said, "The crisis in Iraq preceded the one in Lebanon, and its intensity has aggravated today, because Iraq, Lebanon, and other events in the region are all rings of a broken American chain."
The Iranian ruler laid great stress on "International Qods Day” as the day of “resistance” for the entire Islamic Umma against “the oppression and injustice observed by the Zionists and their supporters."
DEBKAfile’s Iran and Islamic sources note that the Kalashnikov in the supreme ruler’s hand spoke louder than his bellicose rhetoric.
What do you expect from these bastards. By the way, have they implemented one of those UN food-for-sex programs in Lebanon yet?
When the French finally decide to take a stand, they take it againts... the Jews.
The Europeans will have to decide which side they are on. All rhetoric and brinksmanship aside, if they fire on an Israeli jet that is trying to monitor Hamas weapons movements that are happening under the noses of the European UN "peacekeepers", then the die will be cast, there will be no going back.
Lone Wolf,
Wow! That's some amazing sh*t you shared with us! I had no idea how far this thing had progressed. Thanks for the info.
I'm going to dig into this one for sure!
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/
lonewolf quoted an article from Debka.com
Ah yes, the tranquil "Religion of Peace (tm)". Can anyone name another religion where the leaders brandish weapons during their sermons? Maybe there is some prehistoric caveman death cult that did it, but is there anything else after man started walking upright?
How DARE the Israelis fly over and monitor how many long range missles we are allowing in from Syria!
Military circles in the United States and Israel interpret these steps as meaning that Iran will be standing by in battle positions the day before the Eisenhower reaches its destination. DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources have been reporting since late August that Iran’s political and military leaders have resolved not to wait passively for an American attack but to go instead for a pre-emptive strike against US forces in the Persian Gulf and Iraq, as well as targeting Israel.
Posted by: lonewolf at October 17, 2006 01:53 PM
If true, let's get it going. The Iranians will finally get what they have long deserved. However, I suspect the mad mullahs are just ranting as usual because they know such a war will finish off their regime.
France is doomed.
Couple of comments
A couple of posters are posting articles from Debka, in my experience they are worthless as a source.
RasoolalShaytan wrote
"I wonder which country will fall to Islam first, France or Britian".
and then followed up with
"I'm hoping France first, but the UK will probably break out into civil war first. Can't wait! :)"
First I will state the obvious, its a stupid post and does you no credit.
Then lets see if you thought this through.
Is it good or bad for the cause of the West if either or both of those countries with their ICBM's fall to the muslim cause.........
If they fall what happens to the rest of Europe?
How do you get to your troops in Middle East and keep them supplied, how do you keep Israel supplied?..........
We have problems in Europe for sure, just as you Americans do Stateside.
The difference is I think we are all in it together and arent going to gloat at your problems.
In short concentrate on your enemies, dont poke your friends.
That might seem odd but it is right in live with UN rules and purpose, to stop border encursions they dont care what happen within borders just keep it in youre own country.
@KAOSKTRL
you write:
"That might seem odd but it is right in live with UN rules and purpose, to stop border encursions they dont care what happen within borders just keep it in youre own country."
TELL THAT TO SYRIA AND IRAN!!
"Israel has so far refrained from protesting to Rome against the Aster 15 sale - any more than it has to Washington, the UN Security Council or UNIFIL over illegal Hizballah movements and arms-smuggling."
There is the trouble. Israel should be at pitched SCREAM at the U.N. about this, with all manner of evidence to support the actions , to get the LIE of the U.N. out.
The U.N. must be held to account, GET THE INFO OUT TO THE WORLD ISRAEL! Use the press, use the Security Council, stand before the cameras of the world and show what is going on.
This is a ACT of WAR by Syria, a breach of UN Resolution 1701.
I,for one will support you, along with others, here and elsewhere.
About these missiles for Lebanon
When will they be delivered and after that when will they be operational?
g hadi hater said
I agree with that. Gloating is unproductive. But each country in Europe is going to have to choose a side. It's not guaranteed that all of them will side against jihad. Even in those countries that side with jihad, there will be anti-jihadists. It will be a case of "too bad, tough luck". This is not like WWII where Germany invaded France in a blitzkrieg. This is European countries choosing to side with the jihadists. This is European countries electing leaders who side with the jihadists. The choice does not have to be unanimous.
We are not so much "poking" the Europeans as "prodding" them to wake up before it's too late. If you are against the jihad, it is time to stand up now or accept the results, because you'll be the one living there.
"Go ahead - make my day!"
Would it be possible to get France kicked out of the European Union?
France is Europe's hidden time bomb. As has been pointed out by the late Claire Sterling, Communism and islamic jihadists have merged worldwide behind the scenes. France has a huge Communist party (which is politically very powerful on the continent) and has elected to use proxies to attack America and undermine western civilization which is now fait accompli.
The longer Europe waits to hold the French accountable for their betrayal of western civilization the worse the situation in Europe and much of the world is likely to become.
Europe must wake up to France's treachery and find a way to contain it.
Big Terror Alert in France
The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide.
The only two higher levels in France are Surrender and
Collaborate.
The raising of the alert level was precipitated by a recent
fire which destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively
paralyzing their military!
StillFedUp: France's cowardice displayed so proudly during WW2 should be sufficient to convince most observers that it has NO real claim to authority of any kind in Europe.
If France thought its "invention" was of any value, why then did it not stand up to protect this "invention" from the Nazis? They delegated the dirty work of doing this instead to their American allies whom they just couldn't wait to betray repeatedly in the future (and did).
The French can't have it both ways. They are protecting Europe (their "invention") or they are not. But--
Clearly, they are not. They have sold it out instead. They should they should be held accountable for that. Some would dare point out that France has committed against Europe.
I say, kick France out of the European Union!
Correction: That second-to-last sentence should have read: "Some would dare point out that France has committed TREASON against Europe".
Oops!
Somewhat related regarding the split personality French and their role in Lebanon. This is also DEBKA source:
http://newsblaze.com/story/20060930135959payn.nb/topstory.html
Well, I tried.
Obviously more fun picking fun at the French who have done a lot for the fight on terror than reminding ourselves who the real threat is.
You never heard of divide and conquer, you havent thought through what this would mean to USA?
Just a quick thought, you do realise that the French tried to warn you that something wicked your way was coming, you wrote them off.
g hadi hater said
If the French troops in Lebanon start shooting down Israeli planes that are monitoring Hamas weapons build ups, then the French have actively joined the jihad, and they are the real threat.
And if people in France do not force their government to change course, they will bear responsibility, not the posters at JW/DW.
if any shots are fired at the IAF, the eiffel tower needs to come down...
shhiraq is a lousy jew hatin french corrupt bastard - maybe some mooslim will set his car on fire with him in it...
France has it's own land under siege, and its not the Jews or Americans! l just came back from a dog sport event, spoke with a French trainer of police dogs, and he said during the riots, they are not allowed to let their dogs attack/bite the muslims... l told him save the dog from getting near those monster and use your freakin guns! poor French they are doing all this while Paris burns!
Who honestly did not see this coming? The Israeli PM was an idiot to place faith in the Europeans to protect Israel.
France has it's own land under siege, and its not the Jews or Americans! l just came back from a dog sport event, spoke with a French trainer of police dogs, and he said during the riots, they are not allowed to let their dogs attack/bite the muslims... l told him save the dog from getting near those monster and use your freakin guns! poor French they are doing all this while Paris burns!
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at October 17, 2006 08:10 PM
Good thing the dogs weren't allowed to bite- who knows what horible disease they'd pick up.
Sois-belle et tais-toi. Isn't that the phrase that comes to mind, or perhaps the polite way of putting it?
Finally..!!!!! A reason to bomb the French!!!! hang on to your beret Pepe LePew....
StillFedUp: France could still be kicked out of the EU, as it's not needed NOW by the rest of Europe.
The French have no better morals now than they did in 1939.
And we can handle Turkey too.
The UN is completely useless, a dinosaur from the Cold War era and dead already. It just hasn't noticed yet.
Well I just hope the Israelis fire back
I renounce my nationality, I am no longer french. Napoleon must be rolling.
NUKE THE BASTARDS!!!