A Muslim (named Jihad, incidentally) just called in to the Mark Larson Show and insisted, among other things, that Islam forbids suicide, and thus that suicide bombing was condemned by Islam. Jihad, you might want to have a word with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (who was appointed to the post because he was supposed to be a moderate, replacing a much more inflammatory incumbent, Sheikh Ikrima Sabri).
"New J'lem Mufti endorses suicide bombers: New Grand Mufti of Jerusalem hints that Palestinians have right to resist occupation by any means," by Yaniv Berman in Ynet News, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
On October 15, The Media Line news agency conducted an exclusive interview with the newly appointed Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the Palestinian Lands Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Hussein. During the interview the mufti said he endorsed the phenomenon of the suicide bombers, as it was part of the Palestinian people's legitimate resistance.... With a Hamas government on the one hand and an angry US on the other, Abbas could not afford an inflammatory figure sitting in the highest religious post. He decided to appoint Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Hussein, manager and imam of Al-Aqsa Mosque.'A simple man'
An informed Palestinian source told The Media Line that Hussein was "a simple man, born to a family of humble means." He was chosen by Abbas because of an important quality he had – an ability to avoid controversies. According to the source, Hussein fears to lose all he has gained, and "Abbas knows he will never jeopardize his position."
For three months the new grand mufti followed Abbas' expectations. People who came to listen to him preach on Fridays in Al-Aqsa Mosque never heard him inciting against Israel. His fatwas (religious decrees) also avoided such controversial statements.
Hussein explains that the authority of the grand mufti was wide-ranging.
"We discuss worship, personal issues, economic issues, social issues and political issues – everything which is related to Islam."
Hussein went on to explain that the mufti discusses all aspects of Islam, including politics.
And then he made a surprising comment.
"It is the Palestinian people's right to engage in resistance until the occupation ends. As long as the resistance is legitimate, everything related to it is also legitimate."
Asked to express his view with regard to suicide bombing, the mufti answered: "It is legitimate, of course, as long as it plays a role in the resistance."
I guess Israel has the legitimate right to put some smack down, after all fair is fair.
Grand Muftis of Jerusalem have a rather interesting history, don't they? I seem to recall that one was rather deep in bed with Adolf Hitler. Yasser Arafat's mentor, if memory serves.
Something about combining Islamic clerics with Jerusalem just...doesn't...work...
Canadian Sentinel,
No worry, history has shown collaborators usually fall victim to the oppressors despite their collaboration. I can’t think of a more fitting end for them.
Simply killing yourself because life has become unbearable is a sin in Judaism, Christianity and that degenerate creed known as izlam.
However, if a muzlim kills himself in the act of killing infidels then it's a good thing. Virgins for him!
How good depends on the number of infidels killed.
Case closed.
The grand poohba mufti's should practice what they preach. KABOOM!!!!
Indeed, Ronin. Poor leftist dhimmis think they'll be spared for their submission. Not so, though, for they're rife with multitudes of unIslamic behaviors that will be remembered by their supposed "protectors", who of course lie to their useful idiot slaves that they'll be spared... lying is Islamic, after all, when performed in the interest of Islam, I understand. Another fact lost on leftists, who seem chronically incapable of any willing suspension of disbelief that Islam could conceivably be anything other than the most tolerant, peaceful "religion" of all time... my, but what a delusion!
Islam doesn't forbid suicide. It's right here in the Qur'an: Sura XXII 58:
"Those who leave their homes in the cause of God, And are then slain or die, -- On them will God bestow verily A goodly Provision: Truly God is He Who Bestows the best Provision."
And, it is also found in Sura III 157:
"And if ye are slain, or die, In the way of God, Forgiveness and mercy From God are far better Than all they could amass."
(translation provided by Abdullah Yusuf Ali - 1946)
So, if a Spiritual Leader declares an action to be, "in the cause of God" then those who, "die" (note the use of, "slain" as being seperate from, "die") are martyred and blessed by God in the afterlife.
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Canadian Sentinel -- kindly refrain from propagating your newfound word here. It will be deleted.
They are all clones of each other. They all emulate the Profit Mohammed, the perfect man, an example for all mankind, for all time...
http://www.aishconnection.com/videos/relentless/sermon_kill_the_jews_everywhere_01-17.asx
Sure, we are asked not to tar them all with the same brush, but do you see 'diversity' anywhere?
Anyone ever met a 'moderate' Mohammedan who doesn't believe in the annihilation of Jooozzzz and the destruction of Israel?
Ever met a M. who openly declares that calling infidels 'sons of monkeys, sons of swine' and violent jihad is wrong?
That world-domination and Arab Imperialism is wrong?
Good luck!
From article: "It is the Palestinian people's right to engage in resistance until the occupation ends. As long as the resistance is legitimate, everything related to it is also legitimate."
Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Hussein obviously refuses to recognize Israel and is promoting suicide attacks (AKA: Terrorist Attacks) against one of our real allies in this war.
Why is this guy not on trial or buried in pig sh*t?
From article: "We discuss worship, personal issues, economic issues, social issues and political issues – everything which is related to Islam."
Now this quote is enough for me to put him in my crosshairs. (+)
...."everything which is related to Islam."
So are they are planning on which nun to shoot in the back next or which cartoon to throw a friggin tantrum about?
MarisolJW, understood. Not a problem at all.
I will respect the rules. Thanks for the advisory.
A simple man, huh? More like a simple mind. So Mufti, when will you endorse poisoning the water supply, as your illustrious predecessor sought to do on Adolf's behalf back in the early 1940"s?
Is there one leader type among these dismal Palestinians that does not favor some sort of anti-Israeli action? Being so "peace loving" I'm simply amazed at the lack of such people.
Anyone ever met a 'moderate' Mohammedan who doesn't believe in the annihilation of Jooozzzz and the destruction of Israel?
Ever met a M. who openly declares that calling infidels 'sons of monkeys, sons of swine' and violent jihad is wrong?
And we can't even call them muzis in this forum?! Where can I go that isn't full of dhimmitude???!!!!
Lawd have mercy...
From article: "It is the Palestinian people's right to engage in resistance until the occupation ends. As long as the resistance is legitimate, everything related to it is also legitimate."
I am not a Jew but I hope that Jewish people will claim the same rights for themselves. The shoah should have taught the entire world that they of all people should have the benefit of the doubt. I am a German saying this.
The Jewish people have the right to resist those who seek to exterminate them.
Seems to me the moosleems have got a few wires crossed.
Suicide Bombings will continue because every time one of these pathetic psychopaths blows himself up, he knows his family will be rich. The Saudis and the Islamic foundations give big financial rewards to the families of suicide bombers and they are treated as heroes by their local communities.
If Israel wants to stop suicide bombers it needs to destroy this financial and social incentive. First, hold the whole families liable and summarily execute them. The dead cannot enjoy a monetary payoff. To stop the social incentive, Israel should bulldoze the entire village or neighborhood for not denouncing the killers. Lastly, any leader, such as the Jerusalem Mufti, who advocates or supports suicide bombings should be executed as an accomplice in the murders.
That will make others think twice before supporting them.
Provoslavni,
Jeez, you're talkin' like old testament punishment and stuff!!! I'd hate to have you on my bad side...
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Ynkedoodl2 wrote:
Simply killing yourself because life has become unbearable is a sin in Judaism, Christianity and that degenerate creed known as izlam.
However, if a muzlim kills himself in the act of killing infidels then it's a good thing. Virgins him!
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You hit the nail on the head.
Surah 4:29:
Do not kill yourselves. God is merciful to you, but he that does that through wickedness and injustice shall be burned in fire. That is easy enough for God.
If poor old Job, say, (who makes an appearance in the Koran as well as the Bible), after the loss of his wealth, children and health, and being mocked by his wife and reproached by his friends had decided that his life was not worth living, he would have gone to Hell.
It is clear that dying for Jihad is regarded very differently.
Surah 4:74:
Let those who would exchange the life of this world for the hereafter, fight for the cause of God (Jihad); whoever fights for the cause of God, whether he dies or triumphs, on him We shall bestow great recompense.
Dr. Bulldog,
If I sound violent well... this IS WAR and as Patton so clearly pointed out, it's better to make the enemy die for their cause than us. These people are not civilians but are active soldiers in the jihad.
As for the Old Testament, maybe we need a Joshua, a Samson, or a David. May their memories be eternal!
By the way, doctorbulldog.wordpress.com is a great site!
Are the 72 virgins in paradise available to senior citizen's suffering a terminal illness? With the glory and financial implications there should be many volunteers who would be prepared to kill two, three (Plus the unfortunate victims) birds with one stone, and spend the rest of eternity with much happiness. Or, is this reserved for virile youngsters brainwashed to be walking talking munitions delivery systems? What are female bombers promised in paradise? Do they just get the crap knocked out of them here on earth if they don't comply?
Provoslavni,
General Patton's one of my favorites!
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
And, let's not forget General Curtis Lemay:
[In War] "If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting!"
And, finally, a little Bible passage from the BIG General upstairs for you to chew on... Deuteronomy 7:2
"And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:"
So, what you're saying is that we should go, "Old Testament" on their asses, eh?
It's sad, but true - you just might be onto something there...
Also, thanks for the compliment about my website. Your more than welcome to post there, anytime you want.
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Doctor Bulldog:
I like your posts and blog & I don't want to criticize you. But please separate 'Allah' from G-d-, the Mohammedan 'Allah' - the blood&moon-god, has nothing to do with what Christians or Jews believe in...
Appreciate your understanding!
Terrorism is the main fruit of islam.
"Where can I go that isn't full of dhimmitude???!!!!"
--While this forum isn't "full of dhimmitude", you can go to my own site and follow my lead in how to deal with Islamofascism and jihad.
I respect the rules of commenting conduct of all sites, for I expect my own rules to be respected, too. And if we don't respect others' rules, we're in no position to demand others respect ours. It applies to everyone. It's a two-way street. And there's implications for the relationship between Islamists and non-Islamists: if they want respect, they must absolutely show us respect, but they don't; not much at all, in my opinion.
Everyone has their own strategy. My own is relatively more hard-hitting; I pull no punches when it comes to the truth and tit-for-tat. I don't take freedom, democracy or the rule of law for granted... I use them to good advantage.
Visit if y'all wish.
Why is Israel in need of the Al-Aqsa Mosque? Take it and move it to Iran, free of charge.
Afterward, ask, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Hussein, why he is needed in Israel?
If Israel wants to stop suicide bombers it needs to destroy this financial and social incentive. First, hold the whole families liable and summarily execute them. The dead cannot enjoy a monetary payoff. To stop the social incentive, Israel should bulldoze the entire village or neighborhood for not denouncing the killers. Lastly, any leader, such as the Jerusalem Mufti, who advocates or supports suicide bombings should be executed as an accomplice in the murders.
Provoslavni,
Right on!
Just one problem: Israel caught flak just for bulldozing the homes of suicide bombers. Bulldozing the village sounds appropriate, but can it be done without Israeli leaders winding up in the Hague? Isn't Saddam being tried for destroying a village after an attempted assassination?
Wouldn't Sherman or Patton or even MacArthur be considered a war criminal today?
Is there another way to remove the financial incentive? Can we prohibit all international banking transactions, restricting the flow of all funds to the West Bank? They'd have to carry the cash in through Israeli (or Egyptian) checkpoints.
The dead cannot enjoy a monetary payoff.
Posted by: Provoslavni
They can if they are liberals. Lots of dead liberals collect fat paychecks...some of them even vote. A true liberal never dies, they just smell that way...
Just joking...sort of...
sheik yer'mami,
You're right. I should seperate Allah from God, but it is hard to do when the Qur'an I am quoting from does not make that distinction in the translation...
But, if I put, "LORD" in front of God, you can bet your sweet bottom that I am talking about the LORD God almighty!
Thanks for the correction.
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Dr Bulldog...as far as I can determine there are a number of reasons to conclude that Allah is not God (YHVH). In reality, they are not interchangeable terms. The 'word' 'God' is not a name, it is a title.
When Moses asked God his name, God evaded the name issue and said I AM THAT I AM, which is also not a name.. It means 'existence is existence', or pure existence. 'Tell them 'I Am' sent you', is likewise not a name. This is because the creator of things (God) is not a thing, and then, has no name. If God were a thing, it would not be God. Only 'things' have names. Allah is a name. AL-Lah 'The god' Two words, a duality made to appear singular by the removal of a dash. How trecherous. Dualities are things, (Allah). If Allah is true to his name then, he cant be God.
Then there is the small issue about children. Allah says he has no sons, but YHVH says he does, and is proud of him. This is either two different gods we are talking about, or the real God is confused.
There are other reasons as well, too many to list, so thats the best I can do at this time. I gives me a headach to think that hard...cheers.
Actually "Allah" is used by Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians as well. It comes from "al-illah" which simply means "the God" and has the same root as "Eloi" in Hebrew or "Eli" in Aramaic.
So the best thing is probably to distinguish the Muslim false allah from the true Allah of the Jews and Christians. Just as when the scripture warns against false "gods" like Moloch to distinguist from the true god since there were no capital letters in ancient Semitic languages.
In fact that would be one way to distinguish in English: Captitalize "Allah" when refering to the True God and leave it as "allah" when refering to the demon that the Muslims worship.