Yes, the "women are like uncovered meat" Sheikh. By Richard Kerbaj in The Australian, with thanks to LGF:
TAJ Din al-Hilali has praised militant jihadists in Iraq and Afghanistan, calling them men of the highest order for fighting against coalition forces - which include Australian soldiers - to "liberate" their homelands.In an interview on Arabic radio two weeks ago, the imam based at Sydney's Lakemba mosque said he was opposed to terror attacks in Madrid, London and New York but strongly endorsed fighters in the Palestinian territories, Iraq and Afghanistan.
In the interview, Sheik Hilali pays tribute to Sayyid Qutb, the ideologue of the Muslim Brotherhood and intellectual mentor of Osama bin Laden and al-Qa'ida.
"Jihad of the liberator of Palestine, that's the greatest and cleanest and highest ... jihad which lifts our heads in pride in south Lebanon," Sheik Hilali says in the October 17 interview.
He tells broadcaster Abrahim Zoabi that he endorses jihad for liberation. "We are talking about ... jihad of liberating our land, jihad of Muslim Afghanis in their land - that's jihad.
"Jihad of Iraqi Muslims is jihad, but not when Sunnis and Shias are killing each other - that's not jihad."...
Wow, jihadi media whores. It's the latest rage (pun intended).
Can't put it to you guys simpler than that ... get rid of the outbreak before it spreads and kills us all. It is as simple as learning the first three characters of the Alphabet- 'ABC'. Send him back home on the next banana boat. Australia will never be home to a Muslim, unless they take on aother religion.
Will somebody throw a creampie at this man? Thank you.
Sheik Hilali has now been exposed...just like the meat he was speaking about. And when the "cats" come to devour him, it will be caused by his exposure, not the cats.
You reap what you sow.
In the bad old days of the Cold War, one used to worry about Soviet propagandists making hay while the sun shone down on classes at Patrice Lumumba University. Now in the early days of the Jihad that always existed in posse, but in the modern world only with the arrival of OPEC revenues and the large-scale presence of Muslims in Infidel lands, it is not propagandists at Lumumba, speaking untruthfully about the evils of Western capitalism and the wonders of Soviet communism, but preachers conveying truthfully the tenets and attitudes of Islam at the Lakemba Mosque, that are, or should be, the object of concern and vigilance.
Is it? Is it, and a thousand other mosques in Austalia, or tens of thousands of mosques elsewhere in the Bilad al-kufr, all under strict surveillance and, as they must be, permanently, because the texts of Islam are immutable, and permanent, so that one can expect, again and again, sermons based on those texts to inevitably appear, and to work their malevolent way into the receptive minds, and then the actions, of Believers all over the innocent and largely still uncomprehending West?
"Jihad of Iraqi Muslims is jihad, but not when Sunnis and Shias are killing each other - that's not jihad."...
Maybe not, but whatever it is it is indeed good for the majority of the world.
Most Muslim expatriates, in Western countries, embrace the democratic form of government. Decision-making is human nature and common sense for everyone. Societies can always improve, with new ideas and change. Whether local or national, citizens or elected representatives, vote on proposals. The bills may be signed into law, by an elected president. The courts and government institutions interpret and enforce, and citizens adhere to, the laws. Once citizens learn they have options and responsibilities, they will not easily return to a totalitarian parent-child construct. In the case of Afghanistan and Iraq, militias and jihadis believe a continuous conflict may lead to material gains, and religious eternal rewards. But the Islamic militants do not represent the majority of economically dependant citizens; they have to work everyday for survival. If they do not find work, or a secure place to set up a business, then many leave the country. In the long run, the citizens can benefit more from a western model: with representational and limited government; secular constitution, separation of religion and government, freedom of worship -without the use the public treasury to fund or further agendas of religion, the enforcement of a code of civil laws with equal justice -without gender discrimination, a low flat tax, the right for foreign and domestic citizens and investors to lease or own or all forms of property; such as real estate, corporations, industries, municipal services, patents, copyrights, and intellectual properties.
Can someone tell me if Robert Spencer has accepted the challenge presented by Nadir Ahmed. I heard him on a radio interview accusing Robert Spencer of being a "coward". You can hear the radio interview on Mr. Ahmed's website:
www.ExamineTheTruth.com
-Andrei
Is it, and a thousand other mosques in Austalia, or tens of thousands of mosques elsewhere in the Bilad al-kufr, all under strict surveillance and, as they must be, permanently, because the texts of Islam are immutable, and permanent, so that one can expect, again and again, sermons based on those texts to inevitably appear, and to work their malevolent way into the receptive minds, and then the actions, of Believers all over the innocent and largely still uncomprehending West? (* +
This is really a pessimistic look on what we could do to enhance the whole situation to our liking fi we do it together. It'll take one country the balls to get the whole thing rolling.. ship the most undesirable misfits back to their goat farms where they feel most comfortable. These folks are a bunch of banana benders - they doing my country no good. I don't want'em on my shores.
From the above article:
"In an interview on Arabic radio two weeks ago, the imam based at Sydney's Lakemba mosque said he was opposed to terror attacks in Madrid, London and New York but strongly endorsed fighters in the Palestinian territories, Iraq and Afghanistan."
Obviously, he is lying! As he declared last week he would only resign when the world was "clean of the White House first".
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/hilali-fans-fires-of-furore/2006/10/27/1161749315238.html
What, do these idiots think we aren't paying attention or something???
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
If the media would report all the facts about people like Sheik Hilali instead of trying to create political agendas then we would see his kind hounded out of our countries in no time.
Instead we end up with citizens who unarmed with the facts attribute his comments to all sorts of factors other than jihad. And I can see why.
The moment a comment is made the jihad defenders jump onto their barricades followed by every other political pressure group with the ear of the media trying to further their cause a little too. And so on and so forth until the headlines are crammed with every opinion except the one that would call him the enemy.
The liberal project in action you might say.
Most Muslim expatriates, in Western countries, embrace the democratic form of government. (* +
Here we have another liar without giving us the beef. Buddy, my statistic tells me most Muslims in the Western countries will never embrace any form of democracy because it is 100% against their total submission to Mohd. We can argue that he was a pathetic psychopath in his life if he ever exited.
If they do not find work, or a secure place to set up a business (* +
Here I can agree - normally Moslims don't want to find work because real work means taxation, which leads to bettering the infidels. In business, I am sure you have Arabic/Urdu translations of the US tax laws pretty much in shape to make sure you don't pay much. It could be said the same for some of our folks, however they are not designing any attacks or takeovers like the folks in Pakihomes.
MustHuntCowboy
When I was in France, about 10 years ago, I saw Muslim widows all over the place, begging for money. I was told that the Qur'an didn't allow them to work, and that this was their only way of getting money to provide for their families...
I guess that is one way to beat taxation and put a burden on economies... Quite insidious...
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Andrei Peraica,
looks to me like that guy declares himself the winner no matter what is proven in debate. The qur'an and science? I don't think so.
I guess that is one way to beat taxation and put a burden on economies... Quite insidious.. +
I am open to corrections, as much as I learnt in recent years, Islam doesn't allow taxation. That is obvious when you look into their countries with no regards to the well being or human dignity (I could argue Saudies are super racists, and I am sure I will win). I have read some excellent comments by our comrades describing much better than I ever could about the pathetic Moslims. Problem with Islam is that it is evil and backward and its followers are willing to die for it. They don’t perceive Islam evil. It is more possessive attitude than objective one.
Andrei Peraica
Carolyn2
Now, if Muhammed (piss be upon him) actually split the Moon in half, wouldn't the Moon show a massive fracture running through it???
But, of course, I guess the idiot at www.thetruth.com has an explaination for that one, also...
Maybe he should rename his website to www.thebigfatliar.com... LOL
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Australia should liberate itself from the likes of Sheik Hilali, send him packing to the nearest cesspoolstan right now!
Must Hunt Cowboys,
They DO allow taxation - The "jizya" on Dhimmis...
(see Sura 9:29)
http:doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Whoever holds these 'thruths' to be the 'word of god' is a dangerous psychopath and should not be allowed to live among us:
"I have been made victorious with terror" (Sahi Bukhari V4B52N220)
"I shall terrorise the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them, because they oppose Allah and his apostle." (Qur'an 8:12)
"Killing unbelievers is a small matter to us" ( al-Tabari IX:69)
"Paradise lies under the shade of swords" (Sahi Bukhari V4B5N73)
"The believers fight in Allah's cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed" (Qur'an 9:111)
"Muhammad said, ‘You are commanded to carry out jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam' " (Qur'an 47:4)
"Most Muslim expatriates, in Western countries, embrace the democratic form of government. Decision-making is human nature and common sense for everyone. Societies can always improve, with new ideas and change."
I'd like to think so, but I think there's a presupposition here that we can't accept.
In any religion, there's a wide spectrum of participation. There's the merely social involvement, which is born of desire to have something in common with one's neighbor. Then there's the cultural level of involvement, i.e., "I was born in North America in the bible belt, therefore my default position must be Christianity."
The advantages and freedoms of western culture may codify social or cultural Muslims, but there's a third category: those for whom the worldview posited by a particular religion best reflects reality as they are able to percieve it. In these cases, we cannot underestimate the power of this level of belief. Pockets of expatriated, marginal Muslims, when enjoined by fundamentalist elements from other areas to engage in jihad, cannot be expected to put the interloper in his place by arguing the virtues of democratic society.
This is because the logical outworking of the Islamic sources cannot be anything other than conquest and subjugation of outsiders, and the earnest Muslim knows this.
Please don't hear this as an anti-religous screed, since it can be argued that western civilization is the logical outworking of new testament Christianity, but I think the above sentiments underestimate the power of a shared worldview. Especially a dangerous one.
Before being allowed to visit a civilized country a Mohammedan should be questioned as to his views re the host country and his attitudes towards its infidel population. A possible list of questions should include the following:
Violence: Do you condone or condemn the Palestinians, Chechens, and Kashmiris who give up their lives to kill enemy civilians? Will you condemn by name as terrorist groups such organizations as Abu Sayyaf, Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, Groupe Islamique Armée, Hamas, Harakat ul-Mujahidin, Hizbullah, Islamic Jihad, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, and al-Qaida?
Modernity: Should Muslim women have equal rights with men (for example, in inheritance shares or court testimony)? Is jihad, meaning a form of warfare, acceptable in today's world? Do you accept the validity of other religions? Do Muslims have anything to learn from the West?
Secularism: Should non-Muslims enjoy completely equal civil rights with Muslims? May Muslims convert to other religions? May Muslim women marry non-Muslim men? Do you accept the laws of a majority non-Muslim government and unreservedly pledge allegiance to that government? Should the state impose religious observance, such as banning food service during Ramadan? When Islamic customs conflict with secular laws (e.g., covering the face for drivers' license pictures), which should give way?
Islamic pluralism: Are Sufis and Shi'ites fully legitimate Muslims? Do you see Muslims who disagree with you as having fallen into unbelief? Is takfir (condemning fellow Muslims with whom one has disagreements as unbelievers) an acceptable practice?
Self-criticism: Do you accept the legitimacy of scholarly inquiry into the origins of Islam? Who was responsible for the 9/11 suicide hijackings?
Defense against militant Islam: Do you accept enhanced security measures to fight militant Islam, even if this means extra scrutiny of yourself (for example, at airline security)? Do you agree that institutions accused of funding terrorism should be shut down, or do you see this a symptom of bias?
Goals in the West: Do you accept that Western countries are majority-Christian and secular or do you seek to transform them into majority-Muslim countries ruled by Islamic law?
This is anexcerpt from Daniel Pipes website. I think if implemented it could do us a very valuable service...
Something's rotten down under. Do all the men in Australia have zero levels of testosterome?
I have three questions:
Why is this man not in prison?
Whay is he still in Australia?
Why is he still alive?
From a related article in the same newspaper:
In context, the "Mufti" referred to is to be the spiritual leader (and spokesperson) for all muslims in Australia. Currently this position is held by the "fresh meat" imam, TAJ Din al-Hilali.
"AFIC" is the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils.
Note the rather startling admission in the last quoted paragraph, which appears to confirm Robert's primary thesis. Apparently this imam feels that, IN ALL OF AUSTRALIA one cannot find an Imam who is BOTH a fully qualified Islamic scholar and at the same time, a moderate voice for Islam (and fluent in English, perhaps).
Read the whole article:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20666954-601,00.html
Sheikh...it wont make any difference.
Why should they tell the truth to a kafr?
You will hear what you wish to hear and they will just smile.
So when is Australia going to deport this heinous backstabber, fifth columnist? I've had it with these freaky Imams. They are the most bizarre imports any civilized nation can allow in. So why do they allow them to immigrate in the first place?
"...knowingly adhered to an enemy of the United States, namely, al-Qaida, and gave al-Qaida aid and comfort ... with intent to betray the United States,"
was the charge that was used to indict Robert’s friend Adam for treason.
“...has praised militant jihadists in Iraq and Afghanistan, calling them men of the highest order for fighting against coalition forces”
seems to meet the same test. The statement should result in a charge of treason in my opinion. It would be a elegant way to escalate the stakes (this moron has pissed everyone off). And there is precedent in the US.
Wow, jihadi media whores. It's the latest rage (pun intended).
Posted by: Concerned Citizen
That would make them jihadi media pieces of meat, wouldn't it? Catlovers the whole lot of them :-)
I was told that the Qur'an didn't allow them to work, and that this was their only way of getting money to provide for their families...
Can I start a religion.. after all the Constitution makes no references to the age a religion must be in order to define as such... my religion requires that none of us work. It requires that each member make a useful contribution to JW/DW instead. Can I get tax-exempt status please?
Most Muslim expatriates, in Western countries, embrace the democratic form of government.
I'd call that a bear hug.. a hug that bears scrutiny. Oh I can't bear all these moosleems all over the place hugging and embracing things.. imagine mufti tree huggers..
YEEEEEEECCCCHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
I'll become a tree rights advocate if the mozis ever start hugging trees.
In case you didn't know: I hate moslems. They are NOT a race. I am not a racist - I AM an islamophobe and proud of it because that means I am a sane person who is capable of logical thought.
Thank you for bearing with me :-)
Throw a net on this nut and place him in the nearest nuthouse. Any non-Muslim spouting the kind of crap this guy does would have been put away some time ago.
So what exactly is it?
And whatever it is, the bigger question is....is it Islam's fault or Islam's failure?
The Aussies should test the waters.....and see if this circus clown can swim in his Islamic housecoat.
TAJ Din al-Hilali has praised militant jihadists in Iraq and Afghanistan, calling them men of the highest order for fighting against coalition forces - which include Australian soldiers - to "liberate" their homelands.
"nostro quoque" need to liberate OUR HOMELANDS!!!
Please forgive the bad Latin - just couldn't resist..
Can someone tell me if Robert Spencer has accepted the challenge presented by Nadir Ahmed. I heard him on a radio interview accusing Robert Spencer of being a "coward". You can hear the radio interview on Mr. Ahmed's website:
[purposely omitted ahmed's website]
Who the F*c cares what this idiot said about Mr. Spencer. He's a nobody first of all. Second, he doesn't dictate Mr. Spencer's schedule. They need to know their place.
"This is OUR country", biatch. And WE do as WE want, when WE are ready and willing.
Since they call us pigs and monkeys.. wouldn;t that make the women they rape fresh pig or money meat?
er.. money meat = monkey meat
when Sunnis and Shias are killing each other - that's not jihad
So what exactly is it?
And whatever it is, the bigger question is....is it Islam's fault or Islam's failure?
Posted by: yadayada
It's EXTREMIST.. er.. extremely.. good to watch from the sidelines :-)
I wish they'd telivise it in fact.
The only reason that muslims will embrace democracy is so that once they get there numbers up they can use our democratic systems to take power and dominate our countries with islam.
I read a muslim make the comment Islam doesn,t allow it,s self to be dominated islam dominates.
And when they become a majority in western countries they are not going to allow Islam to be in second place.
after reading sfod post i have to wounder just what she has been smokeing muslims wanting democrocy ha lol heck cair want sharia law and the usa to be a muslim republic like iran
and that that had been the practice in Islam for centuries.Taqiyya which means deception in Arabic is the cornerstone of Muslim relations with Kafirs (non-Muslims). Muslims are encouraged to deceive Kafirs all along. The technique Taqiyya was consistently used in warfare by Muslims and it was this which gave them victory over non-Muslims in addition to their schizophrenic savagery Whenever the Muslims defeated the non-Muslims, they could do whatever they (the Muslims) wanted with the non-Muslims. The Muslims can use the non-Muslim women as sex slaves and please themselves as they wished. A Muslim even had the right to kill the women if he wished. In simple language the non-Muslims were not really human beings. They (the non-Muslims) were inferior even to cattle and animals
> # Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
> # War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216
and given how the muslim youths in france have set up islands of shiaria run areas when they could have democrocy well i guess the choice is clear
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People keep asking why is this man still in Australia? I suggest that you find out the address of the former member for Bankstown, Mr. Paul Keating, and ask him why he interfered with the decision of the immigration minister who had in fact signed a deportation order. Mr. Chris Hurford, who was the former immigration minister has clearly stated that he wanted this man deported. However, someone in the cabinet prevented the order going ahead....
Mr. al-Hilaly is now an Australian citizen, and we cannot throw him out of the country, unfortunately.
Yesterday, a bunch of women demonstrated against the sheik. Since I did not watch the news, I am not sure if they were Australian or Lebanese women.
Now, I do think that people are getting carried away with their sweeping statements. You all have a right to your opinions, however, you are wrong when you claim that all Muslims do not want democracy. The secular Muslims, because they are Muslim in name only, do in fact desire a democratic government. The majority of Muslim women in Australia do not even wear the Hijab. The comments of the Muslim women have been very strong. Also, the comments coming out of the leadership of the Islamic Council in Victoria (Walid Ali) have been very strongly worded, including the use of the word "obnoxious". The Muslims here, on the whole are smart and educated people. The majority do not endorse the al-Hilaly position.
The anti-jihad comments are not new. He has made other comments, especially anti-Israel comments in the past. Those comments have been equally as obnoxious. Please keep in mind that the Lakemba mosque is the hive of jihad activity in Sydney. The Preston Mosque in Melbourne has an equally dubious reputation.
We shall see just how strong the muslim community feel about all this quite soon, I believe. I've been reading many posts from the muslimvilliage forums over the past few days, and they are talking about holding protests in the streets after prayer in lakemba, in support of this senile old man.
The overwhelming consensus from the majority of muslims I have seen, as has been in support for the comments this mufti has made and vehement anger towards those who attack him for his words.
They seem to confuse the issue. They claim that the comparison to 'uncovered meat' is what the concern is about, and claim there is an agenda against them by the media and kafr. They dont seem to get the fact that their beloved hate monger was referring to the fact that it is the womans fault for sxeual assault.
I would have posted on their forums but having done so in the past only to find my posts deleted and account removed, I will just continue to read their opinions.. My opinion of islam continues to be proven by their own words and actions.
Let them protest, let them justify such comments. Perhaps the average Australian will finally wake up.