Supreme Court: Islamic indoctrination in public schools is A-OK

I was an expert witness in this case. It is appalling that the Supreme Court would allow this course to continue, after decades of relentless uprooting of any Christian display in the public schools. Some religions are more equal than others, evidently. "Appeal on school's lesson in Muslim culture is rejected," from the San Francisco Chronicle, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

The U.S. Supreme Court rejected an appeal Monday by evangelical Christian students and their parents who said a Contra Costa County school district engaged in unconstitutional religious indoctrination when it taught students about Islam by having them recite language from prayers.

The court, without comment, left intact a ruling by the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco last November in favor of the Byron Union School District in eastern Contra Costa.

The suit challenged the content of a seventh-grade history course at Excelsior Middle School in Byron in the fall of 2001. The teacher, using an instructional guide, told students they would adopt roles as Muslims for three weeks to help them learn what Muslims believe.

She encouraged them to use Muslim names, recited prayers in class, had them memorize and recite a passage from the Quran and made them give up something for a day, such as television or candy, to simulate fasting during the month of Ramadan. The final exam asked students for a critique of elements of Muslim culture.

The students and parents who sued argued that the class activities had crossed the line from education into an official endorsement of a religious practice. A federal judge and the appeals court disagreed, saying the class had an instructional purpose and the students had engaged in no actual religious exercises.

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This is an outrage.
Every city and school should put a creche where they please then. Use this case as evidence of favoring one religion over another.

Robert,

What was your input in this case?

Naturally, the ACLU had no objection. Their actions are not based upon principles, but on politics. I am willing to be that had the ACLU been asked to take part, they would have quietly declined.

Impeach those shmucks!

Parents should be outraged. Never should a murderous death cult be allowed to be portrayed as a good religion.

So now we're allowing pedophilia to be taught in schools.

The final exam asked students for a critique of elements of Muslim culture.

If a critique was offered it no doubt was shouted down with the usual death threats. The idiot teacher probably smiled and offered a few pearls of wisdom from Mo supporting such threats.

Can't anything be done with this 9th Court of Apalls? This court will probably mannage to make sharia history in due time the way it's going.


Pitiful dhimmi judges let this one soar right over their heads.

Here are a few links which tell the recent history of islam in American schools (pulled from JW/DW pages/comments). . .

Textbook and classroom "exercises"
http://www.blessedcause.org/Bias%20in%20California%20Schools.htm

More on dhimmitude in the schools
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000310.php

The NEA and Islam:

http://www.blessedcause.org/Righteous Out/NEA betrayal.htm

http://www.lifeway.com/lwc/article_main_page/0,1703,A%3D150172%26M%3D50011,00.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=%5CPolitics%5Carchive%5C200208%5CPOL20020813a.html

http://www.cwfa.org/articles/926/CWA/education/

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/neSa.htm

http://www.tbaptist.com/aab/nv209.htm

Check out the
http://www.cie.org
Council on Islamic Education
They focus on Constitutional issues and policy on how to insert religion into the curricula. One step forward and five steps back!


Also
http://www.soundvision.com
Sound Vision has a plethora of interesting articles. In the past they had several on how to "persuade" public schools to include Islam in education.

Arizona readers may want to peruse three pieces we have written about Islam in textbooks in Scottsdale and California, including correspondence between us and Christine Schild, President of the SUSD Governing Board. The Superintendent himself, John Baracy, has refused to answer any of our emails.

Jerome du Bois
Catherine King
The Tears of Things

http://www.thetearsofthings.net/archives/000317.html
http://www.thetearsofthings.net/archives/000319.html
http://www.thetearsofthings.net/archives/000320.html

Islamic Indoctrination in America's Public Schools
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000211.php

Dhimmis in California no longer compliant

Judge allows public school to teach about Islam
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000407.php

More on the California school case
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000412.php

Daniel Pipes on dhimmitude in the classroom
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000543.php

Textbooks for Jihad
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001218.php

textbook companies take the path of least resistance, responding to the squeakiest wheels.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85594,00.html

Look who's teaching Johnny about Islam
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001814.php

San Francisco Schools For Jihad
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003404.php

Dhimmitude in Virginia: Teaching Ramadan in public schools
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003511.php

Muslim Re-Education: Coming to an Elementary School Near You
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003614.php

Georgia public schools to accommodate Friday prayers
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003716.php

Delaware: Muslim children given place to pray during Ramadan
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003718.php

Spreading Islam in American Public Schools
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/004025.php

Bath, New York: Class dispels Islamic myths
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005073.php

More schoolbook dhimmitude
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005140.php

Saudis Funded Columbia Program At Institute That Trained Teachers
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005305.php

Jihadist Organizations use Public Television to Market Sharia Law to American Youth
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005461.php

Teachers get lessons on Islam and Arab world
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005452.php

Anti-dhimmitude in Arizona: Text pulled after uproar over Islam
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005638.php

Know what the teachers are teaching
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005646.php

Dawa in Public Schools
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005919.php

Prayer in public schools ok'd
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/007997.php

Court Asked to Rehear Case Over Calif. Schools' 'Becoming Muslim' Exercise
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009592.php

Textbooks Proselytize for Allah
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/010289.php

Teaching Johnny About Islam
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/011530.php

Fitzgerald: Scholarship and sensitivity
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/011523.php

I hope the parents here pull their kids out of school for the duration of this "cultural interchange".It is disgusting!

Failing that,,demand to have a similar courses on Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Sikh and anything else that is superior to islam. Even Jedi Knighthood!

She encouraged them to use Muslim names, recited prayers in class, had them memorize and recite a passage from the Quran and made them give up something for a day, such as television or candy, to simulate fasting during the month of Ramadan.

_______________

Imagine this:

She encouraged them to use CHRISTIAN name, recited prayers in class, had them memorize and recite a passage from the New Testament and made them give up something for a day, such as a television or candy, to simulate fasting during the month of Lent.

OR

She encouraged them to use a JEWISH name, recited prayers in class, had them memorize and recite a passage from teh Torah and made them give up something for a day, such as televsion or candy, to simulate fasting during Yom Kippur.

NOW IMAGINE...

THE MEDIA OUTRAGE!!! ACLU having a field day. The 9th district ruling it un-constitional. So on.. and so on. This is GARBAGE!!! I'd like to see protests in the streets on this one. I'm livid!!!

Question:

Was this the United States Supreme court at the Federal level?!?

Early Christians died rather than pretend to be something else.

"Save your life. You're young still. Just pretend to join in the sacrifice and worship. No one (but God) will know."

Christianus ego sum.

The mission statement for this court (according to its website) says "The mission of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is to provide an important forum for the just and prompt resolution of cases through the uniform and coherent application of the Constitution and laws of the United States of America".

How is favoring one religion (if that's what Islam really is) over others a uniform and coherent application of law?

How about if Johnny and Suzy learn about Hinduism for three weeks? After all this religion is followed by at least a billion people. So to get started they should adopt Hindu names. Learn to wear eastern clothing. Take a dip in the nearest river while pretending it’s the Ganges River. Above all establish daily prayers in the morning after washing, pray to the idols of Ram, Krishna, and Ganesha, the elephant headed god. It would be advised for the students to have these god idols on their desks so they can worship them whenever they feel like it. And also absolutely no meat for three weeks, no hot dogs, no burgers, no fries cooked in lard, no eggs, and no fish. Let’s see what the people will think after these exercises.

What prayers are said? Is the Profession of Faith one of those things which is said? Do little boys and girls say the Shehada, and are then told "now you have done what everyone has to do to become a Muslim" and if so, is this done under the beaming eye of the teacher, and do the children return home, full of stories about "I recited this prayer and if I want, I can be a Muslim" or "I did just what Muslims do, mom, and it's really neat" or "I really like those prayers, they're just kinda like our prayers so I think the teacher is right, all religions are just the same" or [fill in the seemingly innocent, in reality quite dangerous nonsense, those helpless little heads, a captive audience of their teachers, whether of the terminally naive variety, or the sinister sort (who suggested this lesson plan? who's been pushing it?).

Neither the judges in the courts below, nor the Justices of the Supreme Court, know a thing about Islam. They may not realize the psychological effect, on young children, of having them participate in such a way by not merely studying -- that is one thing, if the studying is not simply the usual apologetics and nonsense, focussed on such trivia as Ramadan and Iftar, and the upright "family values" of Muslms (tell that to Muhammad's Jewish concubine, whose husband, father, brother were killed by Muhammad, or to his Coptic concubine/wife, or to little Aisha, and all the little child-brides of today, legalized in Iran and elsewhere, because of Muhammad as the model), but rather on the core of Islam that matters so much: the uncompromising division of the world between Believer and Infidel, and the endless war between them which stops only when all obstacles to the dominance of Islam everywhere end, and everywhere Muslims rule.

Would the Supreme Court allow similar indoctrination into any other religion? Would it permit schools to insist that all schoolchildren should study, say, the Baltimore Catechism, and learn to provide the teacher, in a public school, with the memorized answers from that Catechism? How long would that be permitted? Ten seconds?

Where is the ACLU on this? How silly of me to ask, how pointless to wonder.

Like the Executive branch, with tarbaby Iraq, like Congress, which is divided between those who support Bush blindly and those who oppose him equally blindly, with only a handful who see the truth -- and wait -- the Judicial branch of our government thinks it can deal with questions involving Islam without comprehending Islam, without comprehending the psychology of a child who may be affected, permanently, by a cute little experiment in international living, or rather in a sinister, not innocent, attempt to manipulate minds.

This has to be reconsidered. There must, on the Supreme Court, be one or two capable of comprehending this, capable of understanding that Islam is not just a "religion" or, still worse, a religion "of peace and tolerance" or "one of the world's great religions." It is a complete system of regulation of life, a total explanation of the universe, a political and even geopolitical program, together with -- yes -- those Five Pillars of Worship which, of course, is all the damn unit on Islam, the one on World Religions that will make them all equal, but be especially solicitous, you can bet on it, of Islam, Islam, Islam.

Look at all the gushing bits on television about the observance of Ramadan, and Iftar dinners, and all those articles in every newspaper about
"What it Means to be a Young Muslim Woman in America Today" and "What It Means to be a Young Muslim Professional in America Today" and "What It Means to be a Young Arab Muslim In America Today" and "What It Means to be a Convert to Islam Today" and so on.


Seen any articles on Hindus lately? On Buddhists? On Sikhs? Why not? Why don't we see gushing articls about them, or television bites on, say, the Denali Festival, or on the Five K's of the Sikhs, or on the lost lamaseries of Lhasa? Why not? Cat got someone's tongue? Or are all those other, peaceful, entirely unhostile to the political, legal, and moral institutions of the Western world, for that very reason, to be treated as non-existent or uninteresting?

My. Perhaps Hindus and Buddhists and Sikhs could tell us a think or two about Islam -- Islam in India, Islam in Malaysia, Islam in Indonesia. Now, and in the past. We might learn something. We might find out that the problem is a bit more than Islam and America, or even Islam and the West.

Islam -- and All the Rest. That's the problem. And the problem is not with all the rest. The odd man out, the causer of the problems whatever other faith it comes up against, is Islam.

Murder is supposed to be illegal in this country. So, how on earth is it that a so-called 'religion' that incorporates murder into its core doctrine is given the seal of 'Good Housekeeping by our legal system to be taught in our schools'?? I don't get the logic here---and I don't think I WANT to get the logic. I want these people to retract their ruling ASAP!

What the hell is wrong with these people?????

This is getting scary. If the Supreme Court isn't passing rulings that keep us safe, who else is there to turn to? Americans are definitely going to have to deal with these people. We need to impress upon these legal dodobirds that the Supreme Court has a responsibility to keep democratic values, Not hand them over to the genocidal death cult that is Islam.

If you cannot fight it, go along with it but in the way islam presents itself to us daily. Girls get a few week extra holiday since they are not supposed to be in school at that age in islamland. Come to school with suicide belt and scream 'allahu akbar'. Burn an American flag, stage a mock beheading, shout anti Jewish slogans, burn your teachers car - after all, they asked you to 'go moslem'.

Muslim prayers often do contain variants of the usual declaration that there is not God but Allah and Muhammed is his prophet. Once you've said these words, YOU ARE A MUSLIM! That's all that needs to be said, and no provision is made for the age of the one who says those words, or words to that effect.

I now believe that lawyers and judges are quite possibly the most retarded professionals in the country. They ignore context. What's worse, they deem themselves competent to adjudicate matters and evidence about which they know nothing.

Education professionals are right up there in the esteemed hierarchy of the retarded. That the persons who designed this course and the teachers who are compelled to implement it do not understand the first point I made above is unconscionable. It is derelection of a most serious kind, and it puts these children and their families in danger. What's worse is the clear political intent of this course material. It is blatantly political, as well as sectarian. Execrable in every way. Children should not be subjected to this.

That the court judges should apply double standards and allow the defendant's reasoning to prevail indicates a low level of competence to adjudicate the matter.

What the f**k is wrong with the Supreme Court? Plus, I'd be curious to know about the competence of the plaintiffs' legal team. It seems to me that a deeper insight into what was happening here would have led to more sophisticated and compelling arguments.

Well, well, well...

Lets say that there is a teacher in some Northern California school system.

Lets say that this school is going to devote three weeks, three days, whatever to the 'study' of Islam.

Lets say that the little towheads are going to dress and eat and act as little Muslims.

At some point, this teacher is handed the lesson plans. The teacher must follow these 'religiously'.

Lets say that this person happens to be, besides being a teacher, a Muslim.

What is to stop this teacher from commanding these little towheads to recite the Shahedra or whatever its called, and make these little children Official Muslims?

What? What is there to prevent this from happening? Who would know? I know who would care. The teacher would not care, seeing as how he/she was a Muslim. Afterwards, what could be done to him/her? Anything done would be religious discrimination. What is done, is done.

I have asked this question in the past. I ask it again...

Is this incompetence or intentional?

The right wing crazies allege that the CFR or whoever wants a One World Government. Further, this One World Government wants to eliminate all religions, to be replaced with one World Religion. If this paragraph is true, is this One World Religion to be Islam?

Is this incompetence or intential?

What a reckless decision!

This a cancerous mole on the face of the justice system in America.

I am shocked and outraged. I am embarassed to be an American.

This is an abuse of judicial authority and it must be resisted before the same mistakes are made again in the future.

I have lost my confidence and trust in the American justice system to uphold the American constitution.

The safeguards to our constitution are slowly becoming eroded by activist judges who are misinterpreting the consitution for their own political purposes.

I know that I am sounding like President Bush, but it is 100 % true.

What happened to separation from church and state?

Using Muslim names, reciting prayers in class, memorizing and reciting passages from the Quran, and asking students to fast and simulate Ramadan ARE CLEAR EXAMPLES of religious endorsement and religious indoctrination.

How about reversing the roles and using Christian names, memorizing and reciting passages from the Bible, and asking students to fast and simulate Lent?

This would DEFINITIELY not be tolerated in the anti-Christian American justice system. No way.

Playing by the same rules is obviously not being observed in this ruling. Favoritism and preferential treatment to Islam at the American taxpayers' expense is not the way to educate students for the future, nor is it the way to promote equality in American society.

The fallout from this illogical and incompetent ruling from the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco remains to be seen.

The underlying message is clear: religious bias does exist in the American justice system.

Actually, the Supreme Court made it look like they are pro-Islamic simply by refusing to hear this case. This is inexcusable, but there is a good chance that had they taken it up, they might have tossed out the Ninth Circuit Court decision. But then again, this is the court that ruled that al Qaeda thugs are entitled to the Geneva convention protection, so it's not totally inconsistant with them.

So does SCOTUS stand for the Shariah Court Of The United States? With the Judiciary and the President both sucking up to Islam, is there nobody who will prevent us from becoming an Islamic state? When will Justices Stephens and Breyer drop dead, so that we can have 2 more Roberts or Alitos? Can't wait.

Maybe all the muslims kids could have 3 weeks of indoctrination into the jewish faith and follow their fastings?

Since this course is now legal, here's an idea. Infidel students go to class armed, with the stated goal of waging a jihad. If not a gun, maybe a sword, with the purpose of doing a beheading. They then, along the lines of recent school shootings, mow down the teachers and staff who promoted this program. When the school supervisors visit, they get slaughtered as well. Law endorcement should specifically do nothing about that, since after all, Jihad is an essential element of Islam, and since it is constitutional for Islam to be taught in school (and this course included a 'wage your own jihad'), the kids should do practical classes and act upon it. Repeat the exercise on Ninth Circuit Court and ACLU members (I'm sure there are enough Jewish 'apes/rats' there for them to act on their Jihad). After they have wiped out all the pro-Islamic faculty and NEA and education board members, they move to a different school that doesn't have these courses.

If they do get hauled up before court, cite Quran 9:5, 9:29, 8:39, 2:193. I'm sure the latter 2 verses aren't an establishment clause of Islam any more than this decision is.

P.S. desidude, vegetarian is optional - only change would be no beef based burgers or hot dogs. Hugh, Hindus should riot for not being allowed fireworks during the 'Dinali' ;-) festival, since people are not allowed to use fireworks any day other than July 4. Since we don't, no gushing articles.

dear Hugh,

"My. Perhaps Hindus and Buddhists and Sikhs could tell us a think or two about Islam -- Islam in India, Islam in Malaysia, Islam in Indonesia. Now, and in the past. We might learn something. We might find out that the problem is a bit more than Islam and America, or even Islam and the West."

I cant speak for the rest but as a Hindu in Malaysia. Islamic studies is popular here, it is embeded in the national curriculum from primary 1. This is a compulsary subject.

For non muslims, they were options for only Bible Studies but that was during my parents time (Yes, we stayed here for generations). I could hardly find any Bible studies in public schools anymore.

But regardless of religion, Non Muslims must take Moral Studies & believe me, this subject is utterly crap - like helping a cat when injured & that sort of ****. They make it so hard & we have to use the right keywords for the right situation.

Both Muslims & Non Muslim must Study History, 1/4 of the time on Islamic Civilization.

1 thing I concluded from these education was Islam saved the world. They spread peacefully & was done by the Arabs. Even if you dont believe in the islamic prophet, you loose marks for ommiting the word 'prophet'. Now failing this subject means failing the entire examinations. It is very sad to know that the entire history in our education is totally the opposite with what I know now.

Upper Level Education (Year 1 & 2) for Degree courses, they must pass another islamic cultural & civilization examination.

Some of our State Anthems contain the word 'Allah' & Naturally, we sing it & be silent when saying the word allah.

Before & After a Class begins, A Doa will be recited. Also happens before the weekly assembly.

All Schools are mandated to serve Halal food or at least no pork. But naturally, all of them contain beef & we hindus complained, After several meetings with the representatives & principle, nothing has changed.

Malaysia has moved to a secular to More Islamic every day. The Civil courts in Malaysia are overuled by the Shariah courts.

I wont even get started with the loud speaker prayers (theres an intersting conflict about this between a muslim & a non muslim, the Non muslim won the case - Il explain on request) & many other things.

"whatever its called"...

Shahadatain. My children will be instructed not to say it, and will be withdrawn upon such a request.

I am greatly grieved over this, and I must assume the paucity of posts on this thread is due to mind numbing paralysis and disbelief.

I ask those constitutional scholars and attorneys among us to explain this and outline the path to undoing this evil, and I ask the politically savvy among us to produce a list of sympathetic congressional advocates to champion this for us.

ORDER LIST: 549 U.S.
MONDAY, OCTOBER 2, 2006
CERTIORARI DENIED
05-1539 EKLUND, JONAS, ET AL. V. BYRON UNION SCH. DIST., ET AL.
The motion of American Catholic Lawyers Association, Inc.
for leave to file a brief as amicus curiae is granted. The
petition for a writ of certiorari is denied.

Tech Law Journal
Petition for Writ of Certiorari. (informally called "Cert Petition.") A document which a losing party files with the Supreme Court asking the Supreme Court to review the decision of a lower court. It includes a list of the parties, a statement of the facts of the case, the legal questions presented for review, and arguments as to why the Court should grant the writ.

Writ of Certiorari. A decision by the Supreme Court to hear an appeal from a lower court.

Cert. Denied. The abbreviation used in legal citations to indicate that the Supreme Court denied a Petition for Writ of Certiorari in the case being cited.

Unless I misunderstand this, they refused to hear the appeal. Does this mean they will of necessity refuse to hear any other appeals in the case?

Michael Savage said last night that GWB had added some closet liberals to the court. I didn't know what he meant until today.

For those curious about this school, see here. A somewhat mediocre school. The school demographic breakup:

Student Ethnicity:
White 71%
Hispanic/Latino 14%
African American 5%
American Indian 3%
Filipino 3%
Asian 2%
Pacific Islander 1%

Asian here means Chinese/Vietnamese/Taiwanese/Thai and sometimes includes Indian.

In other words, the Muslim population of this school probably can't be approximated to a whole number.

Robert,

Were the plaintiffs all truly "evangelical Christians," or is this the usual MSM spin? I ask because many agnostic, secular, or atheist parents would be equally outraged.

When you look at the cause celebres for the American Revolution, as most succinctly summarized in the Declaration of Independence, you see an over-arching govermental interference in our liberty by King George III.

The Supreme's indifference in this case, sustaining the marxo-socialist 9th circuit court, would rank right up there with all the reasons we separated from England in the first place, as listed in the DOI.

When we have all three branches of government working to undue the whole, are we not back to where our forefathers were in 1776? Is yet another revolution not needed to restore the America created by our forefathers? Is the political process sufficient to accommodate a new revolution when we have so many forces attacking our country from within and without, and business as usual continues to reign in the Beltway, al la George III and his minions? If not, then what?

Well for the parents to object....they would have actually KNOW WHAT ISLAM IS ABOUT!!!! So many do not.

This is just plain old scary and creepy.
I can see the schools at some point making the kids recite the shahadda and very concretely making them Muslims.

The left or certain parts of it know Marxism is rubbish and have begun embracing and flirting with Islam. Islam is the next big thing with this crowd. The school establishment for decades has been overtly hostile towards parents', their rights and concerns. They have attempted to indoctrine kids into all kinds of perverted leftist utopian ideas and Islam is only the latest.Islam is sexy and cool these days.

All sane parents should remove their children from this environment. Public schools and the educational establishment in the west are a dangerous fifth column and must be treated as the enemies they are.

Apparently our courts are an enemy as well. Thank God for the second amendment; until the Supremes rule againest it.Islamic tyranny moves in perfect lockstep with Western PC, tyranny.

Sorry, folks, I can't spell...

Should be "intentional", not "intential"...

The course content that I am seeing is obviously the product of academic cross-fertilization between the Euro-Arab Dialogue's cultural protocols and our own academics who ape Europe's trends. It is blatant, and should give everyone an idea of what is happening in Europe. It re-writes history in order to sanitize Arab/Muslim aggression and slaughter.

The educators who use this are obviously Leftist scum.

hello people i believe we can use this to our advantage, they want to teach kids about islam let help them, i think it will be a incredible opportunity to teach this kids about islam and the evil cult it is and represent. let get involved, get Robert books to the parent let help the distroy themselves. when the kids start asking tough questions let see whats happens.
or what do you guys think.

islam is evil.

As a lawyer, I am simply horrified by this.

During my first year at law school, on the last day of class, one of my professors gave a stunning lecture. He described his journey into and through the law, which began in World War II.

He emphasized our obligations to civilization, and cautioned us that: "The rule of law failed once already in this [20th] century. It failed in NAZI Germany, and the lawyers and the judges helped it fail. Be careful you don't let it fail again."

I see it failing right before my eyes, every day. And the lawyers and the judges are helping it to fail. Some of them even know what they are doing.

God help us.