"It sounds to me to be potentially the widest infringement of the rights of Muslim students that there ever has been in this country. It is clearly targeting Muslim students and treating them to a higher level of suspicion and scrutiny. It sounds like you're guilty until you're proven innocent," says Wakkas Khan. But Wakkas Khan does not address the fact that all the jihad terrorists who hit Britain on July 7, 2005 were Muslims, and that the Muslim community in Britain has made no organized effort to expel jihadist sympathizers from its ranks.
From the Jerusalem Post:
Senior university personnel throughout Britain have been asked to spy on Muslim or Asian students who are suspected of being involved in terrorist activities, the British newspaper The Guardian reported Monday morning.According to the report, police are enlisting university professors to help locate potential suspects who might be supporting terror. From now on, professors and other senior staff will be asked to look out for suspicious activity on the part of their Muslim and Asian students.
"It sounds to me to be potentially the widest infringement of the rights of Muslim students that there ever has been in this country. It is clearly targeting Muslim students and treating them to a higher level of suspicion and scrutiny. It sounds like you're guilty until you're proven innocent," Wakkas Khan, president of the Federation of Student Islamic Societies, told The Guardian.
The article also reported that the British government is convinced that a Muslim terrorist network is currently being established within univerity campuses.
It is clearly targeting Muslim students and treating them to a higher level of suspicion and scrutiny.
Hey, it's only fair, considering they get a higher level of lenient treatment in every aspect of society.
I thought in Britain you ARE guilty until proven innocent.
Gee, I didn't hear any complaints about the Jihazis profiling United States citizens as Capatilist Crusader Christians and then flying them into buildings during the 9/11 attacks. Oh, wait, those U.S. Citizens are dead... They can't say anything, anyway...
I say, "profile away, Britain!"
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Sounds reasonable to me. I'd want the Methodists spied on if they were trying to subvert the nation and blowing up it's citizens.
The fact that there is any room for doubt as to their intent, is what is scandalous, not that they are suspected of mal intent. British universities are rife with jihadists. Indeed, I suspect that most of all muslim students are jihadists in some capacity.
The university system has essentially only two demographic segments: The Left wing westerners that rally for the jihadists, and the jihadists themselves, this includes not just the students, but the teachers, the profs, and the adminstration. The university system has become a meeting place, and a breeding ground, for anti-western thought and activity since 1968, everywhere in the world. For some reason 1968 was the flash point, the tipping point between the sanity of the normal world, and the insanity of the modern era we see today. That is when it all started. 1968 was when the Left became ascendent.
My solution: Bulldoze the universities and start fresh. And this time, let no one into the new universities that either
a) comes from a nation with a per capita GNP less than 15,000, or
b) has a peace sticker on their volkswagen or
c) has ever attended any type of civil demonstration or
d) has mohammad has a first or last name or
e) has ever worn a Che Chevera T-shirt.
f) has ever used the two terms racist or fascist to describe anybody but a muslim
g) became part of the university system after 1968.
We need to revamp the entire education system. If I had kids, I would never let them go to university. Or public school. The liars of the Left lay in lustful wait.
OT: Hey, what's wrong with wearing a Che Guevera t-shirt? I wear mine all the time. Of course, my Che t-shirt shows a picture of Che's face in a rifle scope with the words: "WANTED: ONLY DEAD." You should see the hostile looks I get from local college kids and Mexican immigrants! :)
Im sure that those teacher will have their eyes closed shut when they get a visit from some well dressed stranger, who shows them pictures of their children or grandchildren in what should be a safe location with a meancing man in the background.
Just like what happens to newspaper and TV people , blackmail and threats.
i went to find the original report at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,1923366,00.html
and i think it is worth noting that it is The Department for Education which is directing university staff to report suspicious activities to the police, not the police.
this is something which Ruth Kelly,the Education Secretary, asked university staff to do back in September 2005,see
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1782865,00.html
so i guess they have not been doing it, and now more pressure will be applied. maybe the Dept will start to find ways to cut funding to bodies who continue to be difficult.
regarding the infringement of rights bit, as we all know the widest infringement of anyone's rights is to be murdered by criminals whose actions are permitted by negligent authority.
Bulldoze the universities and start fresh. And this time, let no one into the new universities that ...
g) became part of the university system after 1968.
As Robert Spencer is, according to his profile above a graduate "(MA, Religious Studies, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) has been studying Islamic theology, law, and history in depth since 1980." So that's him finished then.
This is so obvious; that Muslims may be prone to jihadist activities; that it only requires a cliche in response. Select your favorite:
If the shoe fits...wear it
They've (Muslims) "made their bed, now they must sleep in it"
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
You must remember that the Grauniad (as we call it in this country for the embarrasingly large number of spelling mistakes contained within it) is a filthy leftist rag and will do all it can to shriek racism at any sensible anti-jihad policy put in place by the authorities.
What we must be consoled by is that the authorities ARE implimenting such policies even if they are met with the usual fanatical opposition from the leftist media. And trust me a large number of Brits are thinking 'bloody good thing too...'
I can tell you, without any hesitation and in absolute confidence, that the United States government has been spying on Muslims on college campuses since no later than 1969 and probably before.
How I know this I cannot, however, say.
You are innocent untill proven guilty, khan, That's the way it wooks. You bone head!
'he United States government has been spying on Muslims on college campuses since no later than 1969 and probably before. ...'
The US has been spying on Muslims during that time, I guess to help Isreal. I guess that was not on all Muslims, only the ones pointed out by Isreal.
Now, there is a different ball game. The US and Europe has to spy on Muslims for survival. It has taken us too long to understand the potential threat from the NATIVE muslims. It is hard to imagine that some university dongs will ever spy on 'peaceful' Muslims.
1666, you miss the point. If we got rid of the university system and the whole leftist apparatus which it puts in motion, we would not need a Robert Spencer to fight it. The islamic threat to the west, starts with the education system controlled by the Left. Robert Spencer, and the rest of us, has to do what he does because of the education system's leftist seeds that now control the government, the administration, the media, the entertainment networks, the public school system, and of course, the institutions of higher learning. He is fighting all of that BECAUSE of the universities.
I think I speak for all of us here, including Robert himself, when I say, it would be nice to put Robert out of business. It would be nice if he wasn't needed. Does anybody really think he enjoys doing what he does? It is a negative, draining, jihad of his own. The hatemail, the threats on his life, being personna non grata to the MSM, being considered a racist, it is not what he imagined himself doing at this point in his life, I'm sure. It's a dark world.
I'm sure he would rather live in a world where there was no islam and he could stop fighting his personal war to save the west from itself. Not from islam, but from itself. Then he could open up a bait and tackle store by a lake, and spend his days talking about pleasant things with pleasant people.
If only the education system was not controlled by the Left, we would be all too aware of the nature of islam, the threat would be dealt with easily, and Robert could get on with his life. As it looks, however, it seems he will die doing this.
With his knowledge of the Koran, he feels it is his civic duty to warn the west. It is like being on watch duty outside the castle gates, when the rain is pouring down, it is dark, and nobody in the castle knows what is out there but him. And what there is out there in the dark is a billion sets of eyes glowing menacingly from the fields.
August - I can imagine worst ideologies in the Universities than lefties. I think the Muslims will gas lefties in a heart beat if they ever get a chance (GOD forbid!) to rule the Western nations. Take a look in Egypt where lefties get shot for a cent, no more than that. Mind you, Muslims kill ten Muslims for less than a cent unless your name is Osama.
It could be Osama Bin Linen is their second Mohd. Whoever kills him will be the best friend of Bush and enemy of Islam. The war was described by Bush, the War on Terror, should be renamed to 'The War On Muslim Terrorists'. I think 'good' Muslims should not really object to that, they should support us