Al-Hilali Update. Sheik apologises to 'cherished pearls,'" from The Australian, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
SHEIK Taj al-Din al-Hilaly described women as "cherished pearls" and said rape was abominable as he tried to explain the comments which have engulfed him in controversy.While he expressed some contrition to the women of Australia, he attacked the "dubious media" and "devious groups" which he says have slandered and defamed him.
Australia's most senior Muslim cleric collapsed with chest pains and was taken to hospital today following widespread calls for him to quit after delivering a sermon in which he compared immodestly dressed women to uncovered meat eaten by cats.
In a written statement given to the media at Canterbury Hospital in Sydney today, he admitted the metaphor was inappropriate for western society.
But he said the comments were made in a private lesson at Lakemba mosque during Ramadan and were not meant for the general public "and particularly not the general women of our Australian society".
In other words, I'm sorry this was publicized.
"The metaphor ... has been quoted and misinterpreted by some groups with ill intention," the statement said.
Of course. When have a jihadist's uncomfortable words, when they have come to the attention of the general public, ever been interpreted correctly?
"I am deeply saddened and distressed by the acts of some devious groups which lurk in the dark watching me, and who cannot tolerate the moderate balanced way which I adopt to advocate for women's issues."Yes, I feel deeply saddened that such an ordinary lesson has been used to slander and defame me after it had been translated with the ill intention of a dubious media that wishes to incite and they present an unfair campaign, the aims of which are very well known."
He said a verse in the Koran dealing with adultery named `woman' before `man' because "she possessed the charm, the methods of seduction and all similar devices given to her by Allah to tempt the man.
"For that I borrowed a metaphor used by an author called Ar-Rifa'i.
"He said exposing the meat in an illicit way would encourage the cats to devour it. I didn't mean by that to humiliate immodest women; I meant to censure the person who would abandon his humility and turn into a vicious animal."
He said western women and Muslim women are entitled to wear what they like, but "Islamic Sharia made it incumbent upon Muslim men to lower their gaze. It is prohibited for them to stare at the beauty of strange women."
Rape, he said, was "an abominable crime; it has no justification, and the perpetrator deserves the severest punishment and would not deserve to belong to a religion or to humanity."
But he still urged women not to tempt men.
"I turn to all the women of Australia and the world. You are the shining lights of the world ... How could any sane person think of humiliating you?" he wrote.
"You are the cherished pearls, the dearest thing in the world. So don't be taken as offerings at the temples of the merchants of pleasure, or advocates of decadence and corruption.
"Once again I am very sorry and apologise for what resulted from an unintentional analogy."
Somebody pass the pork chops, please.
"Australia's most senior Muslim cleric collapsed with chest pains and was taken to hospital today ."
I am playing taqquia here in saying I am so sorry...
"Moderate balanced way"? what a bunch of nonsense. He obviously thinks Australians are incredibly stupid. Only an idiot would buy something like that. Preachers such as this should never have been let in to Western countries. Too late now.
Okay, now I understand. Women can be pieces of meat or women can be pearls... But they can't have the freedom just to be WOMEN.
More proof of how Islam dehumanizes women and by extension men as well!
Promised in Paradise are the 72 virgins, or possibly, if you do not join the gang ganging up on Luxenberg, raisins. It is the boys who are "pearl-like." Perhaps in Hilali's view the simile applies only to boys, who are "pearl-like," while for girls only the metaphor is appropriate: they are not pearl-like but are "pearls." For more on this, see Taj Al-Din Al-Hilaly and Roman Jakobson, "The Metaphoric and Metonymic Poles in the Holy Qur'an," Mouton, 's Gravenhage, 1976.*
Or perhaps we should look to Giorgione, who enodwed that girl in "La Tempesta" with a come-hither look, or to Shakespeare, with his bold Beatrice giving better than she got to Benedick, or even to Miranda, espying Ferdinand for the first time.
Those were pearls that were his lies. Something like that.
*No, don't.
Just a joke, meant mainly for Morris Halle and especially for Noam Chomsky, who tells me that he loves, positively loves, this site.
Folks, this is as good as it gets, at least for now. It is not, for once, free thinking people who are afraid and humiliated to speak up, and are made to look like bigots. It is the intolerant and hateful Islamic religious authority, who now has to backpedal and dissimulate.
I love the smell of embarassed Imams in the morning. It smells like victory.
This is exactly what victory against Islamic tyranny looks like in the west: fundies can't speak openly because everyone piles on them and no one comes to their aid. Islamic terror has come home to roost.
Hilali fears deportation, the mere thought made him faint....
The mere thought of him not being deported, of being allowed to remain and to spread his poison upsets me greatly...
But don't call the ambulance just yet..!
"You are the cherished pearls, the dearest thing in the world. So don't be taken as offerings at the temples of the merchants of pleasure, or advocates of decadence and corruption."
Women are not meat. Women are not pearls. Women are human beings you bearded ignorant piece of shit.
he admitted the metaphor was inappropriate for western society
And true for the attitude of men in those places he represents. Thanks for the confirmation of my prejudice.
FreeSpreech, you beat me to it, I was about to make the same point.
"You are the cherished pearls, the dearest thing in the world. So don't be taken as offerings at the temples of the merchants of pleasure, or advocates of decadence and corruption."
Women are not meat. Women are not pearls. Women are human beings you bearded ignorant piece of shit.
Gah! Poetcomic1, you got there first!
The heart pains are nothing but a diversion, to draw attention from his comments. I think that this is a common Islamic tactic. I say this because I have an Iranian STEP father in law who had "chest pains" following the attacks on 9/11. Personally, I think that he became overly anxious because he is part of a sleeper cell, and 9/11 prolly meant that he would be "activated" soon and he just couldn't handle it. I still maintain he is a sleeper terrorist. He follows all of the suggestions in the Al Qaida handbook for "blending in", except he is still a wife beater and has her pretty well cowed. Anyway, I cannot believe how easy it is for these people to lie, and we Westerners in our willingness to forgive, don't even bother to look deeper into this Imam's words. Any of their words. From a personal example, I can assure you that Muslim men, regardless of whether or not they are devoutly practiceing their "religion", do not view their women as "pearls".
Does any woman want to be a piece of jewelry shoved in a drawer and only taken out by a whim of it's owner?
sounds like the sight of all them aussie babes struttin around in miniskirts was too much for the old barsteward
I am sure he is grateful for the free medical treatment.
Too much red meat in his diet.
Well, it's kind of an apology, and it's kind of not, and it's kind of da'wa.
It's a dawalogy!
....
And in comment on Hilali's recent heart troubles, didn't he recently say that "only Allah can sack me"?
"Only Allah can sack me! Hah!
....Urk! Infidel hospital please!"
Too funny. Couldn't be better if it were scripted. Sounds like something Dave Allen would have written; that is, if he were -
Prophet Geoff
‘Australia's most senior Muslim cleric collapsed with chest pains and was taken to hospital today…’
I have been wondering how Muslims would react to a PR crisis. Its much easier for us Infidels to check in for rehab a la Foley, Gibson, Limbaugh, or Williams. Ten bucks says the Good Shiek is in pretty good health after all.
This man needs to be charged for treason for the comments he made in support of the enemies fighting our troops. His statements go way beyond what was said by Adam Gadahan, currently under indictment by the United States. A perfect opportunity to draw a line in the legal sand.
Americaningermany,
"Yeah, chest pains. They are good actors. Wonder if they watch old John Wayne movies."
No, I think they've been watching reruns of Sanford and Son, as in "Lamont, I feel the big one coming!"
SAT Analogy:
Free non-Muslim Australian women are to Muslim men
as
Pearls are before swine.
I'm confused now. Are "cherished pearls" the same as "tilth." How do you plough pearls? How do you cherish dirt?
Between Poetcomic1 and remote_control I'm about to pass pop out my nose.
I love watching this fathead try to backpedal. Too late, Oink. We all read the original comments. I personally forwarded the story to lotsa friends and I'm not done yet.
He couldn't have faced too much of a PR crisis, Limes, after all, he didn't divert attention by mentioning the evil zionist occupiers of the freedom loving people of Palestine, whose fault everything in the world is, may all their mother's sheep have headaches!!
Americaningermany,
Here's wishing all those dissembling Muslim clerics many "big ones."
Here's how Muslims treat their "cherished pearls" in the heartland during their holy celebrations:
http://forsoothsayer.blogspot.com/2006/10/mass-sexual-assault-in-downtown-cairo.html
Read it all; not even the "covered meat" was safe.
He said western women and Muslim women are entitled to wear what they like, but "Islamic Sharia made it incumbent upon Muslim men to lower their gaze. It is prohibited for them to stare at the beauty of strange women."
Are they allowed to stare at the beauty of strange men? Inquiring minds want to know..
Hilali fears deportation, the mere thought made him faint....
The mere thought of him not being deported, of being allowed to remain and to spread his poison upsets me greatly...
But don't call the ambulance just yet..!
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
Call the hearse. I really don't care if he's half-dead.. put 'im six feet under, wrapped in pigskin and a pork chop stuffed down his throat.
I still maintain he is a sleeper terrorist. He follows all of the suggestions in the Al Qaida handbook for "blending in", except he is still a wife beater and has her pretty well cowed. Anyway, I cannot believe how easy it is for these people to lie, and we Westerners in our willingness to forgive, don't even bother to look deeper into this Imam's words. Any of their words. From a personal example, I can assure you that Muslim men, regardless of whether or not they are devoutly practiceing their "religion", do not view their women as "pearls".
Posted by: hueyp6us
Have you made contact with the relevant authorities to share your suspicions with them? I think you should - if you don't want the blood of innocent people on your hands.
Those who stand by and do nothing in the faced of evil are in fact collaborators.
I am not saying you are and I don't even know what you've done about your suspicions.
Noam Chomsky, who tells me that he loves, positively loves, this site.
Posted by: Hugh
Really, wow. I am not smart enough to be in this company, I am leaving never to return. Bye my friends.
Noam Chomsky, who tells me that he loves, positively loves, this site.
Posted by: Hugh
Why exactly does he love this site?
Next thing Lynne Stewart and The guy from CAIR will also love the site.. Strange days indeed.
I really would like to see Ronin stay on. Much better for us to have you on here Ronin, than an America-hater like chom[munist]sky.
Ronin --
Come back, Little Sheba. I promise that Noam Chomsky never praised this site. Just a joke.
Ronin --
Come back, Little Sheba. I promise that Noam Chomsky never praised this site. Just a joke.
Lol, I guess since it was a joke and all. I actually went to dinner but couldn’t resist the chance to get my name associated with Noam Chomsky, I know he is thrilled (not)
Wait I'm confused now, are we uncovered pearls, or cherished meat? >_
Is he going to apologise for insulting our intelligence in this 'apology'?
Do I really care if he does?
I'm confused...
I thought the boys were the pearls... not the girls...