A quiet, middle-class boy who turned into a jihad warrior bent on killing

More background on Dhiren Barot, by Duncan Gardham in the Telegraph, with thanks to all who sent this in:

Dhiren Barot was the least likely al-Qa'eda chief imaginable, nothing like the perceived picture of a man planning to set off a dirty bomb in London and hoping to rock western society with a series of terrorist atrocities.

Short, quietly spoken and smartly dressed, Barot was born a Hindu and brought up in a north London suburb by middle-class parents before becoming one of the key figures in international Islamic terrorism.

Oh, will the Islamophobia never end?

Family friends told The Daily Telegraph that Barot's father was a disciplinarian who expected his family to follow traditional Indian values.

Barot left home at 20 after secretly converting to Islam and only returned when his father had a heart operation several years later. By then he had grown a beard and his father told him: "Shave it off, you look like a Muslim."...

One Muslim school friend said: "I used to go to a community centre across the road for Friday prayers and a few of my Hindu friends used to come along out of curiosity but Dhiren wasn't one of them.

"A few years later I bumped into him at a prayer meeting with another friend who had converted him."

The prayer meeting, held at Willesden Library, was run by Abdullah el-Faisal, The Daily Telegraph has learned. El-Faisal, a Jamaican convert, was also preaching to the would-be hijacker Zacarias Moussaoui in Brixton and visiting Leeds to preach to the July 7 bombers. He was jailed in March 2003 for incitement to murder and racial hatred.

After school, Barot gained a City and Guilds in tourism and worked in travel agencies and hotels before becoming an airline ticket clerk for Air Malta in Piccadilly, London, in 1991. He left after four years "to go travelling".

He flew to Pakistan then to Kashmir, "witnessing a side of Islam which cannot be found in classrooms". He took extensive notes about the weapons and explosives training he received and on his return used this knowledge to move to Afghanistan where he spent a year working as a trainer in one of the camps for Islamic fighters.

It was probably during this time that he met Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind behind the September 11 attacks and became involved with al-Qa'eda. He had the nicknames Esa al-Britani and Esa al-Hindi.

Back in Britain he saw that el-Faisal had black bodyguards with relatives in Montana and travelled to the US to try to recruit them for al-Qa'eda.

In 1998 he moved to Thailand where he was married, although nothing is known of his wife. The following September he travelled to the Philippines to be trained in firearms, munitions and explosives handling.

American intelligence sources believe he met the al-Qa'eda planner Hambali in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, just as the September 11 attacks were being finalised.

Barot travelled to Karachi in January 2000 and the Americans say he went from there to Kuala Lumpur with Osama bin Laden's former bodyguard Walid bin Attash, known as "Khallad".

It is also possible that he met two of the men who were to become hijackers on September 11, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who were meeting Hambali in Kuala Lumpur around the same time....

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Barot left home at 20 after secretly converting to Islam and only returned when his father had a heart operation several years later. By then he had grown a beard and his father told him: "Shave it off, you look like a Muslim."...

Incredible that this bastard didn't behead his father just for saying that.

What a nice crowd this pig ran with. It must have pained him no end that he couldn't be a success like his buddies.

Too bad the rack is no longer employed for scum like this. Few deserve it more.

"Barot gained a City and Guilds in tourism and worked in travel agencies and hotels before becoming an airline ticket clerk for Air Malta in Piccadilly, London, in 1991."
-- from the article above

Today you will be escorting a tour bus of elderly Israelis. Please make them feel welcome and take them to places that won't be too hard on them physically, and that you know are safe for them to wander around in.

Oh, and about that group of Catholic tourists who want to fly to Malta to do a kind of Knights-Templar tour -- well, would you mind booking them and making sure everything goes smoothly for them. No stopovers if possible, and make sure the hotel they go to is wheelchair-accessible; some are in their 80s.

Travel agencies, hotels, airline ticket sales.

Why worry? Everything is tickety-boo.

Esa al-Britani = The British Jesus ?????

A very unfunny Borat!

The scourge of politcal correctness is going to be the undoing of us all- I can NOT beleive the world is guillible enough to beleive that coddling the terrorists will ave us all from their wrath and hatred. Yet, sadly, and astonishly, that seems to be the mindset.

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

... witnessing a side of Islam which [sic] cannot be found in classrooms.

Whaddya mean cannot be found in classrooms? Just crack some books and you'll find oodles o' violence. In the Koran, in the Hadiths, in Tabari, in Ishaq, in any of the Sharia codes, in any of hundreds of Islamic histories.

For example, Dr. Bostom's recent survey of Jihad is one of the most violent books I've ever read.

610 * 623 * 732 * 1066 * 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001

What you can't find in the classroom is a large group of activist Moslems acting on the sacred Islam, aiming rockets, building bombs, cooking up anthrax, handling C-4, studying dirty bombs, learning how to hide weapons.

That kinda stuff. Moslem stuff.

least likely al-Qa'eda chief imaginable

Unless you've been paying attention for the last ten or so years. Then it makes complete sense. Middle to upper class converts with education seem to be the most willing to jihad for Allah. But let's keep dragging out the tropes about poverty and alienation because that fits our dialectical materialist worldview we learned in college and J-school.

"brought up in a north London suburb by middle-class parents"

I thought they said it was all down to poverty?
Have they been lying?

There is no specific profile. They are rich, middle-class, poor, impoverished.
They are quiet, polite (to their muslim neighbours of course), educated, or uneducated, they wear islamic garb, or they dress like Westerners.
Some are ultra-religious, go to the mosque religiously, drink no alcohol and do not date women.
Others go to the disco, dress like Westerners, drink alcohol, do drugs, take Western women out to have sex with them, marry them, or just have babies out of wedlock with them.

But, according to one poster here, Holy Wart, on previous occasions, the Muslims who act normally Western must be okay and beyond suspicion. And that's not just the view of Holy Wart, but of millions in the West. While it may be that a few jihadists-in-the-making cannot help themselves and start acting more "religious" (like growing a thick beard, etc.), we simply cannot stake our safety & security upon an imaginary line separating Westernized Muslims from ostensibly radicalized Muslims, concluding that the former category are harmless. We simply can no longer tell the difference between a harmless Muslim, and a Muslim who is either deceptively camouflaging his jihadism or who will sooner or later undergo "radicalization" (i.e., Islamization) and/or sudden jihad syndrome.

Just another quiet lad who had no choice but to convert to Islam and wage violent Jihad because George Bush's corrupt regime is occupying Iraq to steal the oil. Oh, wait a moment... this all happened prior to 9-11-01?

In 1998 he moved to Thailand where he was married, although nothing is known of his wife.

Perhaps his temporary marriage contract (available to Shia Muslims) expired after an hour, and the Mrs. then moved on to her next "John".

we don't understand radical converts. We see people barely 6 months into being Muslim attempting terrorist acts. Our traditional models of justification (depravation etc) don't apply in understanding why people convert and become radicalized.
We can review racial profiling, but terror groups will just use white converts. So maybe the most important question we can now ask, is 'how do we stop the white converts?'

albion,

1) "white converts" still constitute only a tiny minority among the terrorists.

2) this convert pertaining to this thread was not "white"

3) at least 3 other terrorist converts have not been white (Jose Padilla shoe bomber, two Jamaican blacks)

4) as far as our profiling methodology goes, we should employ all rational means, and if the potential population of terrorists has, in terms of the combined total, a higher percentage of Middle Eastern, SE Asian and black African (or Jamaican blacks or African-Americans) populations, then our methodology should reflect that higher percentage -- which does not mean we should exclude attention to other ethnic populations (including whites), only that we should apportion less time and resources to those other ethnic populations.

Nothing infuriates hindus more than to see one of their own hindu brothers turned traitor and joined the islamic murderer's club. The reason being that hindus knows that when a christian or jew converts to islam, he is following religion that is derived from their own beliefs. so their turning into muslims can be expected. but when a hindu turns into muslim traitor, that is shameful and horrible. he is turning his back to the 5,000 year old culture and religion that defines indians and india.
It's very unfortunite that the family of this idiot has to suffer through no fault of their own.

remote_control: I agree with all of your points. Yes, this convicted terrorist was not white. I believe a white, recently converted, recently radicalized wanna-be terrorist is the next threat we'll have to face.
IMHO: Your emphasis on profiling is a debate / action going on right now in the US. In Europe, we want to understand how to stop converts becoming radicalized. Taking the bad people away (deportations etc) doesn't fully solve the problem, because the ideology can be pushed through the internet.
The real question is, how do we stop the ideology of radical Islam?

I believe a white, recently converted, recently radicalized wanna-be terrorist is the next threat we'll have to face

I dont know - havent the 'Caveman and Him' been threatening that for ohhh so long now? And we have yet to see a successful suicide/homicide bomber who wasnt born into the cult of death.

I think thats significant - however much the recent convert is zealous to show the depth of his beliefs, if they were brought up in a western, christian milieu, I dont see the islamic imperative trumping a lifetime's inculcation of the value of the individual's own life.

Indians have known it for hundreds of years: Conversion breeds traitors to the Motherland.

The new converts must be more loyal than the King! They cultivate the fullest dimension of psychopathology, even worse than the original barbarians themselves!

A good convert is a dead convert!

Where do these guys get all that loot to go traveling on? They seem to have an awful lot of free time on their hands as well..

Idle hands and minds..

americaningermany,
while I know that christianity and judeisim are opposites of islam, bu the average hindu bases his beliefs on the past history.
After all wasn't it the christian british who handed over large chunks of india for muslims to set up their own country free of hindus?
Is't it a fact that before 9/11 the west had no problem supporting various islamic dictators? that muslims had a freedom to immigrate to their lands with no string attached?
That the american conservatives and libs both supported the pakistanis who supported various terrorist movements against india?
That religious conservatives had the strongest words against hindus but the muslims were looked upon as fellow reliigous people of the abrahamic faith?
That current day christian liberals have common cause with their buddies , the muslims?

You see for the average hindu it appeared that the christians are the muslim's best friends and that both were anti hindu.

well said, desidude. And the single main fault of the Hindus is not to go on their backs, raise their knees, and surrender to the vile forces of conversion! Abrahamaic faiths indeed! It is to the great credit of Judaism, in common with the Hindus and Buddhists, that they have never believed in conversion! And the Beeb reported 'atavistic passions of the Hindus' displayed when the Babri Masjid was destroyed as a warning to the jihadis that their time was up! Now they're complaining about the possibility of changing skylines in the West. Indeed, the next Olympic games in London promise to be a grand spectacle in so many more ways than was originally planned by the Olympic Committee.







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