Don't hold your breath, Hamid. "Afghanistan asks Pakistan to do more to hunt Islamic militants," by Waheedullah Massoud for AP, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
NEW DELHI (AFP) - Afghan President Hamid Karzai asked for greater cooperation from neighboring Pakistan to help fight Islamic militants during his visit to India.Karzai said his country was the victim of violence by Islamic militants who use safe havens across the border.
"Afghanistan is affected by terrorism, there is violence committed against our people, there is violence committed against our schools, our children ... definitely that violence related to cross-border activity," he told reporters.
The president, however, said he was not accusing Pakistan's government of having a role in the Taliban-led violence.
"We are not blaming the government of Pakistan. We are seeking help from the government of Pakistan," Karzai said at a joint press conference with Indian Prime minister Manmohan Singh in New Delhi.
Gee, the irony never ends...
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The biggest problem with the afghanis is that they actually LIKE to live in the dark ages. They have that tribal mentality where individualism in nonexistent.
The only way to get rid of taliban is to flatten out peshwar and other hotspots of the taliban.
And what was that speech that Pres. Bush gave "we will have no distinction between terrorists and those that harbor them".
I assume that Pres. Bush has amnesia or split personalities. Some one break it to him that he made a speech and what he said.
Don't ask Pakistan to do this. Go do it yourself.
alaskan1000,
Well, as I see it, Bush has been kicked around so much since he invaded Iraq, that he has been "corrected" like a dog that pissed on the carpet...
So, I'm not expecting him to go boldly forth and take care of anymore countries that harbor terrorists...
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And what was that speech that Pres. Bush gave "we will have no distinction between terrorists and those that harbor them".
Posted by: alaskan1000 at November 17, 2006 05:56 PM
.. and he turns around to give Tax-dollars, F-16 and aid to Pakistan, right before declaring Pakistan who funded 9/11, and Saudi Arabia, who executed 9/11, 'friends and allies against terror'.
Talk about a bold-face, fork-tongued liar, sell-out and a traitor.
Karzai must not forget his country also has and breeds terrorists. Maybe he needs his Ministry of Vice to take a more active role instead of focusing on women's hair and ankles. I know jihadists are running back and forth creating mayhem, but I don't see the difference in islamists from taliban in Afghanistan and taliban from Pakistan. He is of the same religion as the terrorists and Mushy. Get rid of the religion that sanctions this and the world can rid itself of this infestation. All these guys are doing is arguing like an old married couple.
I know jihadists are running back and forth creating mayhem, but I don't see the difference in islamists from taliban in Afghanistan and taliban from Pakistan. He is of the same religion as the terrorists and Mushy.
Posted by: freewoman at November 17, 2006 06:10 PM
... and this has been going on since a long time. Those who remember Daniel Pearl's abduction and murder, will remember that Omar Sheikh, was liberated from Indian jail by hjacking an Indian Airlines Flt IC-814, to Khandhar, Afgnahistan, from where Omar Sheikh was escorted, by ISI, to Pakistan, from where he funded 9/11 and later plotted barbaric jihad on Daniel Pearl. Even a child can see that they... Pakistan, Al-Qaeda, Afgnanistn, Taleban, ISI, LeT, JeM, PIJ, Hamas, Abbas, Hoshni Mubarak, Al-Sauds, Bin-Laden etc.... belong to the umma, of the same cult, with the same short and long term objectives. Nontheless, a good observation, freewoman.
Mushy Raff really disappoints me. Here is a Muslim man, a general, who just doesn't seek to emulate the ultimate warrior, Mr. Perfect. Sure, all these Muslim men want to emulate Mo in devotion to Illah and in the sack but when it comes to war there isn't a worthy warrior in the bunch. Must be that they can't always shoot their enemies from behind. Perhaps this explains why those evil Talibani keep causing such a ruckus.
No matter what anyone does, they will tear it down. No matter how many hospitals, or schools they build, the Afghanis will tear them down, or blow them up.
Posted by: americaningermany at November 17, 2006 08:24 PM
Hmm, this sounds familiar. Ah yes, sounds like the world's greatest victims-the palestinians! Destroyers of all, builders of nothing.
Pakistan's expertiese is cross-border terror.
They have dedicated themselves to it with a passion for the past decades.
How can they stop that now?
Typical Afghani:
"I do not want to give up my harem"
Splitting hairs perhaps, but if we're talking about the same Afghanistan, shouldn't that read halekon - ie. small boys, aka "the choicest mounts" (or so says Abu Nawas)
I saw a documentary a while back, and the biggest gripe the locals had against the Taliban was that they banned them from keeping halekon, but everyone knew the randy talibs kept their own halekon stashed away in the barracks. Now that ain't fair, huh?
One of the more worrying things about the war in Afghanistan, although it is not less than we should have expected from Al-Qaida, is the unceasing attacks on schools and colleges. The unceasing attacks on all the institutions of learning, but, and most especially, the attacks on those institutions which educate women and girls, is one of the most vilest aspects of the war in Afghanistan.
Surely this tells us all that we need to know about the talib - that they value objective knowledge not one iota and that they see the education of women and girls as profoundly inimicable to them and that, to us, this is yet further evidence of their primitive stupidity - and a further demonstration of their inability to engage with the the modern world in any other way but violent. They are to be pitied more than hated but resisted not pandered to.
Dominic.
Domestos,
What? You mean to tell me that NAMBLA didn't file a class action law suit or something against the Taliban for discriminating against the other deprived Afghani pedophiles??? *grin*
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Pakistan will help...as soon as they bleed a few billion more in jizya from the Americans.
It's simply incredible that in this century there are actually people out there who really and truly want to return to a 7th century way of life. I'll never forget reading a book about the Taliban crazies just a week or so before 9/11. One story really stuck out-the Taliban executed some guys in a novel fashion-they collapsed a wall on them with a tank! Afterward, one of the crazies actually claimed the Koran said this was an approved punishment. Even the Iranians couldn't believe it. Watching the Taliban in action must be a lot like the Romans watching the barbarians running amok.
Just a small story. My Father gave me a gun. I took the gun, shot a small bird, the bird landed on a small puddle, and proceded to peck, and peck, and peck, with blood oozing from it's nose, until my Dad came out, punched me in the mouth, and said no more guns for you! So who needs to get punched? Or a bloody nose? The bird, or the dumbass shooting the gun? My guess would be don't piss with Dad when he has a gun!
"I assume that Pres. Bush has amnesia or split personalities. Some one break it to him that he made a speech and what he said"
Bush also stood in front of everyone and said Islam is a religion of peace.
"We are not blaming the government of Pakistan. We are seeking help from the government of Pakistan," Karzai said ..
Karzai, you will NEVER get the results till you wake up and face the reality. Your statement clearly states that problem is not with Parkland. It is the responsibility of the Paki Government to clear the mess in their own yard and in the neighborhood. They are totally responsible for the mess in the neighborhood and in their own country. If you don't put the blame on Paki Government, who are you blaming, a void.
With this kind of attitude, the problem will never go away. It is a submission to the monster which is the problem.
She said Pakistan causes problems for all it's neighbours - Sir Henery-Morgen
Did you ask her, how much of it is to do with that they follow an evil religion called Islam? Lets assume tomorrow India attacks Pakistan to 'eliminate' the monster next door, I am sure Afghanis will come running to help Pakistan. Suppose the Afghanstan adopted a different religion, lets say Buddhism, which was their native religion for centuries, then problem will go away from the prospective of Afghanistan, then we could all squarely blame the Pakies and they will be frightened.
I can't imagine for a minute that the US will let Talibananas re-take Afghanstan, there is too much at stake. I am pretty certain that Bush is leaning hard on Pakies to fight the monster they have created talibanana-benders. This problem could be solved largely with the effort from Muslims, i.e. Muslims fighting Muslims to get rid this Talibabanan business. Saudies are funding them big-time with our petro-doller.
"Afghanistan asks Pakistan to do more to hunt Islamic militants"
Whining, wearisome and SLY taqiya. As if afghanisthan does not represent islam which is synonymous with terrorism. To this day the afghanis gather around the ground where Prithviraj Chauhan was brutally killed by spitting and stomping on the ground. And the energy needed for such intensive islamic workouts is supplied by Infidel countries, India very much included, in the form of "aid". Plus free medical treatment by Indian doctors who are notorious for such selective, amnesiac compassion towards our very patently obvious and potential enemieskillers. If an Infidel gets decapitated blame it on his "karma". That is Indian brand of "secularism".
On second thoughts I have come to like taliban, the way I like Baygon Spray which kills the cockroaches instantly.
This karzai is such a loathsome born beggar forever globetrotting around with his lachrymose deceitful lies.
Oh! the word "Buddhism" gives me the jitters. India has one BIG parasite already ,occupying pristine land whose head, on his sojourns to foreign countries ( sustained entirely on Indian taxpayers' money) pontificates to India! Who wants another one?
Nothing comes from nothing. At the time of islamic invasion of India , the buddhists played not an insignificant role in aiding and abetting the marauders.
"Never Cry Wolf" makes a lot of profound sense.
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"A nation led by wimps
Swapan Dasgupta
The media is a dog-eat-dog profession. Nevertheless, I must record my heartfelt admiration of the Indian Express for recording the lives of 187 Indians who were blown to death in Mumbai on July 11. The profiles are revealing - a student who had just secured admission to an American college, a small-time insurance salesman, someone who just moved into his new flat, a woman who supplemented the family's income to give her children a better life and a man who thought he was through with commuter trains. Their lives personified the drive, the energy, the dreariness, the frustrations and the aspirations of middle class India.
Life is at a permanent discount in India. The names of those faces in the crowd who went to work on the morning of July 11 and never returned home won't make it to the history books. Like the liveried attendant in Parliament who slammed the door on the attackers and paid with his life, the victims of terrorism end up as statistics - mourned for the mandatory fortnight and then dumped into the recycle bins of history.
Our enemies have a more profound self-esteem. They have celebrated their jihad by conferring social honour, family pensions and assurances of a blissful after-life to the merchants of death. The lesser mujahideen who have suffered the misfortune of getting caught have become campaign themes of human rights entrepreneurs and Booker Prize winners. If the Afzal Guru campaign is shrill, wait till the sentences are awarded to the 1993 Bombay bombers.
It's a good time, we have been told, to think out of the box. The more intellectually innovative of our public spirited citizens have concluded from the findings of the Rajinder Sachar Committee that India's prison population must faithfully mirror the country's ethnographic mix. Since larger numbers of incarcerated terrorists would probably add to the existing communal imbalance, it follows that a robust, no-nonsense policy of anti-terrorism would add to India's unfortunate record of social discrimination. Such iniquity, the Government has repeatedly told the country, just won't do.
The victims of the Mumbai blasts - all 187 of them - have been overtaken by history. In the first few weeks after the explosions, it seemed that all of India was united in outrage. The Prime Minister broke off the Foreign Secretary-level talks with Pakistan; the ghoulish National Security Adviser came on TV every week to feed the country details of Al Qaeda threats to our nuclear plants and Pakistan's involvement in India's domestic terrorism; after two months of apparently relentless investigations, the Mumbai police commissioner announced to the world that case had been "cracked" and the perpetrators were Pakistani jihadis belonging to the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba; and in a major diplomatic offensive, the Government announced that it would share the details of bad neighbourliness with the Americans and British.
Something inexplicable then happened. First, there were protests from Communists and the usual suspects that the anti-terrorist inquiries were targeting the proverbial "members of a particular community." The protests became very shrill after the Malegaon blasts. Second, the NSA proclaimed that the Mumbai police lacked "clinching" evidence. And finally, basking in the Cuban sun, the Prime Minister and his new Foreign Secretary announced that Pakistan was as much a victim of terrorism as India. Last week, as the Foreign Secretaries of India and Pakistan met, the relegation of the 187 Mumbai victims from the front page to the inside pages was institutionalised. As the Pakistani side gleefully noted, the Mumbai blasts weren't even mentioned by India. Instead, there was the bizarre understanding that a joint anti-terror mechanism would ensure that terrorism would never let the dialogue process be stalled. It was a gesture akin to turning the other cheek, for a few dollars more.
In July, the Government fearing an explosion of anger acted with inept urgency. When the backlash never materialised, it mocked the memory of 187 ordinary Indians who just happened to be on the wrong train at the wrong time. Pakistan has reason to be delighted that it is confronting a nation led by wimps".