More on Dhiren Barot: plans to blow up a train under the Thames, to set off a dirty bomb, and videotapes of Wall Street, the New York Stock Exchange, synagogues, and more -- all in the name of his new religion, Islam. Yet despite the fact that the world is filled with many, many Dhiren Borots, and despite the fact that they claim to be moderate, American Muslim advocacy groups continue to focus their ire on anti-jihadists, not on jihadists.
"'Die Hard' - the evidence against Dhiren Barot," by Adam Fresco in The TimesOnline, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
Anti-terrorist police investigating a plot by a British Muslim to explode a series of bombs in Britain found hundreds of computer files about home-made bombs and gas explosions during searches around the country.Dhiren Barot, 35, wanted to blow up a train while it travelled under the Thames and use a dirty bomb to create "another black day for enemies of Islam".
He appeared at Woolwich Crown Court today after admitting conspiracy to murder between January 2000 and August 2004.
Edmund Lawson QC, for the prosecution, outlined the case against Barot, who grew up in northwest London, saying that he had recorded footage of buildings he planned to blow up on a reconnaissance trip to the United States....
Mr Lawson said: "Examination of the deleted material on one of the hard drives revealed literally hundreds of files containing research into topics such as gas explosions, home made explosives, information relevant to arson attacks and fire protection systems and other research which was plainly relevant to the terrorist plans."
Among literature recovered in the police searches was extremist Islamic propaganda and books on explosives, poisons, fire, electronics and the architecture of target buildings. References to books included titles such as ’Chemical and Biological Warfare’ and ’Hazardous Gases and Fumes’.
In a garage of a house in west London the authorities discovered the Bruce Willis blockbuster ’Die Hard With a Vengeance’. But at the end of the film is one hour and twenty minutes of video footage from a hand held video recorder shot in New York.
Mr Lawson said: "The footage is of various buildings in Broad Street, Wall Street, the New York Stock Exchange and the like with focus on the entrances, security cameras, barriers, side streets etc.
"There is also footage of Jewish buildings and a synagogue. We know now that this video was made over a weekend of the 7/8th of April 2001."
The court was then shown five short extracts from the video which contained footage of the areas mentioned. But one of the hand held films had been edited after the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Centre and included words scrolling across the bottom of the screen. It said: "This video footage was recorded during a weekend hence it does not accurately reflect a mid-week working day which is significantly busier.....since the collapse of the WTC security is greatly increased."
The clips show Wall Street from several angles as well as side streets. At one point, during the recording of New York, a male figure is seen to stand outside the New York Stock Exchange.
"another black day for enemies of Islam" says the wannabe, caught by anti-terrorist police, and actually up on charges (if I heard it correctly), of plotting to commit mass murder.
He seems to be the only one calling it what it is: Islamic jihad.
Re: "Another black day for enemies of Islam"
This belief-system is a mental illness. What other major religion condones any violence? Even if it's only a minority of their believers, the fact that there are so many is an indication that this belief-system makes them prone to violence.
Again, the belief-system is a mental illness.
"What other major religion condones any violence?"
I've posed this question to many co-workers over the past few years, the response I've received every time is the Christian right.
The funny thing is it blows me away every time I hear it. This is the suicidal mindset that we in the civilized world face, it is the single biggest threat to our liberties and way of life.
To have something against religion is one thing, but to discount mountains of evidence simply because you don't want to acknowledge it is insane.
Until people like my co-workers open their eyes and acknowledge that we are in a war with a mad death cult, we will remain in jeopardy with many black days ahead.
Niv
Only when they took the power of the Prayer "Our Father in Heaven" from the school children was such a force able to invade. No?
I for one - WILL NOT HAVE teachers teaching my children about God - but I have NO objections to the school planting those seeds of Holy thoughts for my children to come home and ask - of which the many will turn to the Eord of God for the answers [It is God Who does the calling - but one must know that He exists first - no?]
In comes the preacher of Beheadings, Gang Rape, Crucifixions, the CuttingOff of Hands and Feet and Treason in non-Muslim lands - and all of a sudden - people have a problem with those who point out the truths?
No human alive today wrote the Koran. Nor did any human alive today write the New Testament - yet BOTH have a HUGE impact upon this world.
Bigger than any other religion.
Hey folks - If you're not willing to see that the New Testament preaches Peace [Don't lie -n don't steal- Don't cheat - Don't murder] at the very least - don't blame others for atrocities that the Koran can easily be blamed for.
I didn't write the Koran - nor did I write the New Testamant.
Nor did any of you - write either book.
One Book condemns the actions that were carried out by True Muslims at the Beslan school - and one Book condemns their every act!
You're a smart person. You figure it out for yourselves.
It's only a matter of time until USA is hit again.
The old Testament became moot when Christ rose from the dead and ushered in the new Testament.
And we still have apologists to help the advocacy groups. Check out this humdinger by Reza Aslan in response to Sam Harris calling out the intolerant verses in the Koran:
“He couldn’t be more wrong about the Koran,” says Reza Aslan, the “No God but God” author. “In the history of the prophetic biblical canon that starts with Genesis, the Koran is by far the most tolerant of the views of other religions.”
And this obfuscator gets air time on HBO with Bill Maher. The only counterpoint to this propoganda that he has had on is Christopher Hitchens, and he acted like a complete child the last time I saw him on the show.
Until the taboo of criticizing religion is finally put to death in the country expect more of the same.
"The footage is of various buildings in Broad Street, Wall Street, the New York Stock Exchange and the like with focus on the entrances, security cameras, barriers, side streets etc.
"There is also footage of Jewish buildings and a synagogue.
I would like to think if this happened today someone would question a muslim conducting the same type of surveillance, but that would be islamaphobic. I need muslim sensitivity training so I will not get suspicious when I see muslims with cameras taking pictures and recording innocent tourist activity like recording guard locations, shift change schedules and camera locations. I don’t know why I get upset. Ignorance is bliss and explosions are kewl. Back to sleep America, move on there is nothing to see here.
Mr. Birot, and other perps & wannabes should all be strapped to guided missiles and sent directly to hell (a.k.a. the kaba)- preferably with slices of bacon wrapped aropund their wrists and ankles.
If Dharon Barot has done some thing. He is caught now and if evidences are strong enough; he will get his due share of punishment for his doing. There is nothing more than this in the news; except the timings are fantastic. An other opinion harvester brought up by our staunch ally---UK.A friend in need is friend in deed.
Any how, this is another strong proof that after the invasion of Iraq; America has become more unsafe. This gives us a jolt to search our souls; and mend our ways and learn to deal with others with respect and honour. Simple rule: If you love your freedom...you ought to respect other people right of freedom too.
Any how the crunch of the matter is:
United States is set to have their mid-term elections, This is very much predicted that Conservative will loose their majority hold in both the houses. Neocons policy of ‘Fallacy and Deception’ has resulted into colossal failure on all fronts. There is last minute effort to hoke up the public by creating Islamist issue in American society. In order to save the day; many a websites supported by conservative are extensively busy propagating the Neocons ideology. They are designed to extensively spread misinformation and are instigating people to rabble rouse against Muslims living in America.
This is very much evident now that Iraq was attacked on a false pertinence. US forces are on their rampage there and are in its continuous occupation; on very flimsy grounds. Eyes are set to bring down; the next neighbouring regime Iran… into US folds. But this phase is proving to be difficult one: rather its making US stay in Iraq; very tenuous.
Like wise, Alqaeda was blamed for 9/11 issue. 9/11 attack, required a huge technical support and a vast net work to execute it. This is also beyond the comprehension of common folks in the street; to believe that a bunch of terrorist groups sitting in the wilderness of Afghanistan; a retrograde, undeveloped country where; even to fetch a coca cola can is a Hercules job; were able to do all this so precisely. This has also become a most controversial issue; for Neocons to make the people believe in their claim.
A superficial effort to blemish Islam; is just to spread ignorance and pitch the different societies; against each other. Judaic, Christian and Muslim are one; .worshiping one God Almighty; our creator and beneficent. Judaic after having been reformed by Jesus; took the shape of Christianity. These both denominations are the stepping stones to reach up for the summit where; Islam awaits, as a benefactor for the mankind.
This is God’s design that Islam shall prevail over all the previous denominations. The arrogant and ignorant people can only resort to mocking. They can only do one thing only--misbehave; the way they did with a humble person like Jesus. He was persecuted and sentenced to die on cross to die a humiliating death. But in the eyes of God Jesus position was raised and Jesus found his status most elevated to the higher lofty stations.
Islam is a refined and filtered product of Almighty God. More you malign it and try to push it down; It spring up more…gloriously.
Love for all, Hatred for none
Any how, this is another strong proof that after the invasion of Iraq; America has become more unsafe. by above poster................
Whether you like it or not, islam has been at war with us since at least 1979. Don't put it on going into Iraq.
The mistake I see about going into Iraq, is , we should have done a MAJOR Shock and Awe, and if anyone was left standing, it would be a real shock and awe.
A Khokar, thank you for your mocking post, because only arrogant and ignorant people do this.
"Islam is a refined and filtered product of Almighty God. More you malign it and try to push it down; It spring up more…gloriously."
The sad part of this is that you are blind to what you are saying. Islam is what is fueling violence around the world, I fail to see the refined portion of your religion. Is it not arrogant to claim your religion will rule over all others?
I believe this is truly the dichotomy of the Islamists, they can never see through their own hate and arrogance. They only see themselves as victims of a conspiracy, yet every day the Bin Ladens of the world are taking credit for these atrocities and revered for it.
Please take a close look in the mirror and see what kind of hateful culture you are part of. Unfortunately if you ever see it, you can't leave because it means your death.
Niv
A new Moslem troll--A Khokar. Or perhaps one of the regular trolls with a new moniker. It's like trying to tell the difference between a redneck and a hillbilly, or a moderate Moslem from a radical one.
Spare us, troll. We don't "malign" Islam here. Islam maligns itself. With every head lopped off in the name of Allah, every death threat to avenge the Prophet's good name, every suicide bombing and honor killing, Islam "springs up more gloriously."
Tell it to the jihadists. Give them that "Love for all, hatred for none" line.
Don't forget to wear something without a collar.
It is sad that the programs that were supposed to protect workers in cyclical industries, now act as a magnet to draw in immigrants who arrive not for opportunity, but for social benefits. The kind of immigrant who would like to bomb our Cities.
In a strange way, the Muslims may serve to strengthen the West over the long run, in the way that a virus strengthens the immune system. Their presence will end welfare state excesses, political correctness, and the celebration of victimhood that weaken our societies.
The reported seventy-percent of Americans who foresee an all out conflict with Islam are a powerful voting block. Especially if a Presidential candidate adopts a platform that ends immigration from Countries that ‘support terror’, or ‘are known to contain terrorists’. From there, the jump to the ‘I’ word and internment/deportation get easier. Things would move quicker if these dummies could get organized.
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/internment1.html
This guy's saga shows conclusively that Islam is for losers. Only a loser would go out and collect all the crap this guy did. Only a loser would want to plot another 9/11. Only a loser would get mixed up with Islam. Only a loser would buy the BS in Islam. Somebody really needs to find a cure for losers like these.
A Khokar's syntax "errors" are not consistant. Idioms are American English, e.g. "a friend in need is a friend indeed." Some North American trying to sound Middle Eastern.
Every day Islam exists is a black day for its enemies.
My great great great grand daddy always said a cure for stupidy was a shot of hot lead to the cranium, right between the eyes. Bring it. We are ready and we are coming for you islamofacist assholes.
Piss on islam - keep up the good work Robert.
'9/11 attack, required a huge technical support and a vast net work to execute it. This is also beyond the comprehension of common folks in the street; to believe that a bunch of terrorist groups sitting in the wilderness of Afghanistan; a retrograde, undeveloped country where; even to fetch a coca cola can is a Hercules job; were able to do all this so precisely.'
Nobody believes it, Brother, least of all the JW readers! Thank you for pointing it out once again.
Who first went to town pointing fingers at Israel? --The Chief of ISI, Pakistan. Now why would Israel give cause for so much jubiliation in the streets of Gaza and Pakistan?
Who created the Taliban? --Pakistan!
Who welcomed, transported, aided, abetted, financed, armed and serviced with infrastructure and communications technology 'a bunch of terrorist groups sitting in the wilderness of Afghanistan...' -- But of course, Pakistan! (Forgotten already the helicopter airlift of Talibani-Pakistani personnel from Afghanistan to Pakistan, in the midst of the Allied Forces advance?
Who continues to shelter terrorist foreigners not only in the wilderness, but in its madrassas all over the country? -- But of course, Pakistan!
Who benefits most from worldwide Islamic charities in the name of jihad? --Pakistan!
Who runs the camps for terrorist training of UK citizen, among others, as is well documented? --Pakistan!
Which Islamist country do the maximum of apprehended terrorists worldwide belong to? --Pakistan!
And who's already in the Stone Age because of all that? --Pakistan!
If Dharon Barot has done some thing... blah blah blah
Yes, he has done something. Intention of the crime is as bad as the crime, matey. In my eyes there should be a new crime on the statute books: Jihad. And the penalty should be death.
Any how, this is another strong proof that after the invasion of Iraq; America has become more unsafe. This gives us a jolt to search our souls; and mend our ways and learn to deal with others with respect and honour. Simple rule: If you love your freedom...you ought to respect other people right of freedom too.
What freedom was in Iraq? There is freedom now. There is no freedom in Iran and other places like it, and I hope that if needs be, we will have the strength to deal with Iran and the other places the same way.
United States is set to have their mid-term elections, This is very much predicted that Conservative will loose their majority hold in both the houses. Neocons policy of ‘Fallacy and Deception’ has resulted into colossal failure on all fronts. There is last minute effort to hoke up the public by creating Islamist issue in American society. In order to save the day; many a websites supported by conservative are extensively busy propagating the Neocons ideology. They are designed to extensively spread misinformation and are instigating people to rabble rouse against Muslims living in America.
The ultimate in Jihadist apology - the denial. It wasn't us. It was George Bush. This just illustrates the depth of delusion that should worry us all. The very sad thing is that some democrats would agree with you. They are also traitors.
This is very much evident now that Iraq was attacked on a false pertinence.
Oil? Was it oil? You mean oil don't you, you idiotic pea-for-a-brain cretin. The US attacked Iraq because the last lever of influence available to them, sanctions, was being abused by the likes of Kofi's son, and George Galloway, not to mention a few of the governments of our so called allies. Oil for food was a reason, not oil.
US forces are on their rampage there and are in its continuous occupation;
What you are in fact talking about is muslims killing other muslims, and also Americam soldiers. You filthy piece of crap.
Like wise, Alqaeda was blamed for 9/11 issue. 9/11 attack, required a huge technical support and a vast net work to execute it. This is also beyond the comprehension of common folks in the street; to believe that a bunch of terrorist groups sitting in the wilderness of Afghanistan; a retrograde, undeveloped country where; even to fetch a coca cola can is a Hercules job; were able to do all this so precisely. This has also become a most controversial issue; for Neocons to make the people believe in their claim.
All they had to do was fly three planes into a building. No matter how stupid the crappy Jihadists are, this is not rocket science, you nasty degenerate.
A superficial effort to blemish Islam; is just to spread ignorance and pitch the different societies; against each other... blah blah blah
Islam is the death cult pitching into all the religions, and it has been doing that since it's invention. You will notice that I used the word invention. That is because it was INVENTED by a man, for his own devious and lurid purposes.
This is God’s design that Islam shall prevail over all the previous denominations.
Well no it isn't. This is what Mohammod invented in order to conquer people. You pass it down through the generations by a sort of brainwashing. There is a place in my town that calls itself a "Koran Memorizing Centre". That says it all to me.
The arrogant and ignorant people can only resort to mocking. They can only do one thing only--misbehave;
The ignorant people do not mock islam. They run scared of it. The arrogant people run the country's and write the media. They run scared too, and are convinced that there fright is appropriate. The clever people mock islam, because they know what it is all about.
the way they did with a humble person like Jesus. He was persecuted and sentenced to die on cross to die a humiliating death. But in the eyes of God Jesus position was raised and Jesus found his status most elevated to the higher lofty stations.
Yes, God loved us so that he let himself be hung on a tree. He suffered the torments of a dying man so that we could equate with him, and he could empaphise with us. His message was that the meek would inherit the earth. Through love, forgiveness, and compassion would one be saved. You'll notice that it isn't through hatred and blowing oneself up to kill others. I am fed up with folks like you bringing Jesus into it to try and paint Islam in a good light. Mohamod and Jesus are mutually exclusive. Jesus came from God, Mohamod came from Satan. You should reject Mohamod and embrace Jesus.
Islam is a refined and filtered product of Almighty God. More you malign it and try to push it down; It spring up more…gloriously.
A threat, of course.
Islam is a refined and filtered product of Almighty God.
You mean Allah got it wrong the first time, and had to refine and filter the product to get it right. Does'nt say much about the prowess of allah.
Almighty God is a loving and caring God and doesnt tell his followers to murder in His name, unlike allah. Dont confuse the Almighty with a perverted demon.
Dear pagandkapitat and friends
Hi,
I appreciate your interest shown in Pakistan affaires; but you need to know what Pakistan is. I will differ with your hurling of remarks. Your deliberations seem to be with out giving a cool thought and not knowing the facts. You seem to be sticking to your preconceptions, or preconceived ideas advanced by some western zealot with their vested interests; spreading the policy of Fallacy and deception and do not allow you to reach the...truth.
History shows that our Western forces are the warrior and conqueror of non-resistant, depleted, and forsaken lands; --but they easily get bodged down, like mighty Israeli army in the face of determination and resilience shown by, even a very weak and negligible resistance like Hezbollah in south Lebanon war; or Taliban showing their vehement resistance against occupation by US/NATO forces in Afghanistan.
The previous track record of US invasion of Iraq shows that US lead forces did not advance into Iraq till chief UN weapon inspector, Dr Hans Blix categorically made it clear that there were no WMDs and that there was a little resistance of scud medium range missile in Iraq.
But there has been the fragility and vulnerability of Muslim countries like Pakistan that under the circumstances they are compelled to cooperate with the present day sole oppressor…USA.
Any how this is the way of the people of the East that when they agree into some joint bonding or cooperation; they come in…whole heartedly and do not spare any thing and are always ready to even sacrifice their lives for their honour. They live by their word and die by their word. They feel comfortable to work in close liaison and proxy of their friends.
Pakistan is a country of great resilient people. Since early 80s she decided as matter of honour; to work with US as an ally on the global issues. Big brother US; could not have a better ally than Pakistan in the area.
Pakistan was assigned the task to end the Soviet Union occupation and evict Soviet from Afghanistan. Pakistan mobilized its entire country for the task, and chalked out a befitting doctrine to build up a unique task force. This force was ready to fight for their honour and charged with virtue and dynamism of a true Muslim warrior to lay their lives for the given task. With a short period of time, these Pakistan forces gave such a sever blow to Soviet Union, that World was not only able to see this super power retreating from Afghanistan, bleeding… but also witnessed that before her once mighty armies were able to reach back Moscow, her mighty Empire had already crumbled on their feet.
Thus Pakistan made it possible, for United State to become the lone super power of the world.
World history tells us that such resilient and dedicated forces, found capable of defeating even the invincible mighty powers like Soviet, may not be betrayed or abandoned. But US did indulge in such folly. US abandoned these forces and left them high and dry. Betrayal carries a price and one committing it, has to pay it through their nose.(US can be seen paying it in coins in war theatres of Iraq and Afghanistan.)
At the end of Afghan war, there was an enormous task to rehabilitate and reintegrate these warriors back into their civilian social setup. It is a difficult task for a warrior to put his sword down. Pakistan was yet to demobilize these forces that US again called upon Pakistan to come forward to join US in her ‘Global War on terror. US were suffering from her self inflicted pains of 9/11. This time; Pakistan was told to come up, to commit a suicide like action; to become a front line force to eliminate the remnants of decedents of her own very forces that once made US a super power.
Any how; one should not under estimate the resilience and pliability of Pakistan that it was again able to shore up their courage and chalked a viable plan to effectively become the front line nation to fight the new global war on terror. For last many years this is being done very successfully. It only takes a Pakistani courage and resilience to do this!
People in the streets of US need to treat Pakistan with honour, respect and grace. Every one needs space to breath but Pakistan is again being left to face, a waves of discrimination in the world; for doing a favour to its friend USA; and helped; made her the super power. Looks like the fairness, truth and wisdom has left American land for good to Pleiades. A sense of acute arrogance prevails every where. Pakistan can always bear US as a friend but not as master.
Pakistan deserves a ‘very well done’ for the job they are performing so extra ordinarily. If given a task; Pakistan can help US to extricate herself from the thick of swamps of Iraq; with honour.
In Muslim World, Pakistan is considered by all the Muslims to be the fortress of Islam. Islam is very well a filtered and refined product of God Almighty bestowed to Muslims for their delivery as ‘blessing for the mankind’ to foster peace and harmony in the World. It has come to stay. If its God’s design, it will prevail and excel above all the previous denominations. Muslim may be resource less (at present), but in God, their Lord that they trust, is not resource less.
Polarising people on the bases of their blood, race or pigmentation and to conceive some divisive designs to create future feuds with the vested interests are the absurd primitive ideas of by gone days. Islam has come to stand a guard against all such absurd efforts which create anarchy and disorder in the earth for the mankind.
Love for all, Hatred for none
From the deep warrens and underground burroughs of jihadistan, the troll cometh blinkered on, splattered with the blood of the underground denizen of his god-forsaken country, each killing other crazed by the love of Allah, blinded by the sunlight of logic and reason of free humanity, unable to appreciate that the world sees fully what he stands for. Gotta refine and filter his own mien first, may be, even learn to love himself first as God's creation that got lost in his deviation and hatred for all. We're seeing, we're reading, we're listening, but the troll's a hi-wired mannequin, a walkie-talkie Zombie in service to the killing machine! You won't get any sense out of this one, just the same circular arguments of, Taqiyya! Underground critters, when they come up for air, spouting love (if only they understood love in the first place) of the Underground God of Violence and Hatred, don't know how near the end of the world is, FOR THEM! Like this prime traitor, Dhiren Barot!
Up is down.
Right is left/wrong.
Pakistan is a noble and powerful nation.
Antonio Gramsci would smile reading A Khokar's "Letters from Bizzarostan".
Arrogant and playing the game of falsehood?
US very arrogantly betrayed; then Afghan Mujahideen forces and this produced people like; Bin Laden.
He created a resistance and that resistance is now spreading through out the world.
Many more resilient and zealous forces like Hezbollah are in offing.
This has made the world more unsafe.
Game of false hood has created a mess in Iraq that even now…US exit looks very bleak and dreadful.
Only way out seems to be to start trickling down to Afghanistan. Sit there;…and wait for the lady… luck?
Love for all, Hatred for none
'Pakistan is a country of great resilient people. Since early 80s she decided as matter of honour; to work with US as an ally on the global issues. Big brother US; could not have a better ally than Pakistan in the area.'
'In Muslim World, Pakistan is considered by all the Muslims to be the fortress of Islam.'
Pakistan is a country of tribal warfare and anti-minority (including Muslim minorities) genocide held together with the glue of military dictatorships. War against its own women through the Hudood law is well-documented.
The only time there were honest elections in Noble Pakistan, it split into two nations. http://www.globalwebpost.com/genocide1971/docs/jurists/1_preface.htm
It was a fully paid up member of the anti-Soviet alliance, because it saw that as the only way to fulfill its life-long ambition of the destruction of India! It was thought that riding piggyback on the Great Shaitan, Uncle Sam, was the means to achieving this objective. But scorpion-like, the sting came in the form of 9/11.
Noble Pakistan has itself to blame for all its travails. If a frog tries to blow itself up in competition with the great Bull, like in the old fable from Panchatantra, the frog gets blown apart by its own hot air!
Besides, referring to Pakistan as 'she' is utter blasphemy! Unless, you accept that this rib came out of India, also a she, Bharatmata. Mother Earth, Motherland, are sacred Pagan concepts. In Islam, nothing is sacred except Allah. How can the fortress of Allah be a 'she'?
Does "A Khokar" hear the crap he writes on this site from someone else or does he just make it up as he goes along?
More mohammedan science fiction from a member of the sand troll brigade.
He really should get a big telescope some day and see if he can observe Earth from his home planet. The differences between what he thinks is going on and the reality of it all would likely shock him into catatonia.
We'd all benefit from the latter. At least then, he'd shut the hell up and save us reading his islamo-fictive bull.
Exit from Iraq:
…Or better take a quick flight from there to back home;
Helmand (Afghanistan) to… New York.
Eisenhund
Pills of truth are always bitter to swallow. Look how it makes you jump and stir… boiling in rage.
Only: we have to think cool and search our soul. Policy of exterminating every one; found in your way of greed; never pays.
Evidence one …. Mid term elections lost.
Pagandkapitat
We are not talking here about politics of Pakistan and India.
Any how…I know India wants to see Pakistan wiped off the World map.
In your dreams…only!
The Pakistanis are afraid of their own reflection in the mirror because they see India looming there! This is paranoia. You write about Pakistan, he writes about Pakistan, you reply, and he sees India in it! This is *Noble* Pakistan. Besides, wouldn't take long for India to wipe Pakistan off the map of the world, were it not for its Patron-in-Chief, the great Shaitan! The question is, how many seconds can Pakistan survive without generous American funding?! But above all else, granting that Pakistani history begins in August 1947, what is Pakistan without India? Just a big jihadi Zero!
Dear Pagadkapitat,
I said; this is not Pak-India website.
so--Better hold your hold your brush please.
Thanks
"Look how it makes you jump and stir… boiling in rage."
"...found in your way of greed;..."
There was neither "rage" nor "greed" in my postings, mohammedan. Your islamic imagination kicks in, seeking to demonize those who see through your schizophrenic fever-dream interpretations of how the world works. I point out and highlight your disfunctions caused by that mental virus, islam, and you don't like that. At no time in my military carreer did I ever feel rage, greed, compassion, or regret when I dropped one of your fellow cultists. I felt nothing more than a Terminix exterminator would putting down cockroach infestations. You have a problem with reality, most likely do to your infection with koranic mumbo jumbo and prophet-worship as well as Gramsci-itis. That might make you no more dangerous than the average guy pushing a shopping cart down the street, in the aluminum-foil hat, muttering to himself. If you try to spread your hateful ideology, know that there are plenty of us out there, many on this site, who have dealt with your kind. The ones we met aren't spreading their filth anymore. They were dealt with coldly and dispassionately, just as one deals with any vermin.
BTW-Don't you lecture pagandkapitat about this not being a Paki-India site. You participated in discussing that filthy hole yourself.
Typical mohammedan hypocrite.
Dear Eisenhund
United States is just finished their mid-term election, This was very much predicted that Conservative will loose their majority hold in both the houses. Neocons policy of ‘Fallacy and Deception’ has resulted into colossal failure on all fronts. There was last minute effort to hoke up the public by creating Islamist issue in American society. In order to save the day; many a websites supported by conservative are extensively busy propagating the Neocons ideology. They are designed to extensively spread misinformation and are instigating people to rabble rouse against Muslims living in America.
This is very much evident now that Iraq was attacked on a false pertinence. US forces are on their rampage there and are in its continuous occupation; on very flimsy grounds. Eyes are set to bring down; the next neighbouring regime Iran… into US folds. But this phase is proving to be difficult one: rather its making US stay in Iraq; very tenuous.
Like wise, Alqaeda was blamed for 9/11 issue. 9/11 attack, required a huge technical support and a vast net work to execute it. This is also beyond the comprehension of common folks in the street; to believe that a bunch of terrorist groups sitting in the wilderness of Afghanistan; a retrograde, undeveloped country, where; even to fetch a coca cola can is a Hercules job; were able to do all this so precisely. This has also become a most controversial issue; for Neocons to make the people believe in their claim.
A superficial effort to blemish Islam; is just to spread ignorance and pitch the different societies; against each other. Judaic, Christian and Muslim are one; worshiping one God Almighty; our creator, the most merciful and beneficent. Judaic after having been reformed by Jesus; took the shape of Christianity. These both denominations are the stepping stones to reach up for the summit where; Islam awaits, as a benefactor for the mankind.
You accept Islam as eternal truth; or mock it , malign it; or spread the webs of many- many web sites to misguide the people to rabble rouse against it. This is God’s design that Islam shall prevail over all the previous denominations. The arrogant and ignorant people can only resort to mocking. They can only do one thing--misbehave. The way they did with a humble person like Jesus. He was persecuted and sentenced to die on cross to die a humiliating death. But in the eyes of God Jesus position was raised and Jesus found his status most elevated to the higher lofty stations.
Islam is a refined and filtered product of Almighty God. More you malign it and try to push it down; It spring up more…gloriously.
Love for all, Hatred for none