Why is it entirely, or even mostly, the responsibility of the US government to resolve this "trust gap?" And this is the "gap" that exists even while government officials avoid or remain ignorant of the ideological roots of jihad in the Qur'an, Ahadith, and Sunnah, and operate on the assumption that Islam is a Religion of Peace that has been "hijacked" by a Tiny Minority of Extremists. "US works to bridge its Muslim trust gap," by Alexandra Marks for The Christian Science Monitor:
NEW YORK – It was an awkward moment for Martin Ficke, the special agent in charge of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement in New York. He was seated next to a member of the British Parliament for a panel on the "War on Terror and the Clash of Civilizations." Why, the moderator asked Mr. Ficke, was this prominent British citizen with a diplomatic passport questioned for almost an hour when he landed at the airport?
To the audience, filled with Muslim-American students, the answer was obvious. His name is Shahid Malik, a Muslim name. "I've already talked to him about it privately and apologized," Ficke said. "It shouldn't have happened."
Across the country in conference rooms like this, as well as in local cafes and community meeting halls, officials of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and FBI are reaching out to Muslim-Americans in an attempt to bridge the huge gap of mistrust that developed on both sides after 9/11. It's sometimes an uncomfortable process, as Ficke found. It's also not being applied consistently across the country, working well in some places - like New York, where the Muslim Advisory Council meets regularly - and not so well in others. But homeland-security experts and Arab- and Muslim-American leaders believe such outreach is crucial to maintaining the nation's security and strengthening its social fabric.
"9/11 created a pretty big divide and we still have a ways to go, but there has been progress," says Arsalan Iftikhar, national legal director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Washington. "With five years of retrospect at our disposal now, we as a nation are able to see more accurately what are and what are not effective law-enforcement initiatives and how it is important to reach out to the Muslim-American community and make them feel as partners in our society."
Oh, yes, 9/11 created a divide, but why do Muslims blame law enforcement for that? Why not tackle that Tiny Minority of Extremists for the divide (that would involve assessing exactly how big that Tiny Minority is), and take steps to combat the jihad ideology beyond displays for public consumption?
There's no question the US Muslim community felt the brunt of the FBI's counterterrorism and law-enforcement initiatives after 9/11, say experts. More than 1,200 immigrants, mostly Arab and Muslim males, were detained and denied due process for months. The Justice Department's own inspector general concluded that their detentions were "indiscriminate and haphazard," with no clear distinction made between those held for immigration violations and those who were suspected terrorists. The report also found "a pattern of physical and verbal abuse" by correction officers. Ultimately, only a handful of those detained were charged with a terrorism-related offense, and 231 were deported.
Registration requirements for males
The Justice Department also set up a special program that required male visitors from 24 Arab and Muslim countries to register with local immigration offices. More than 80,000 men did so. Immigration officials found an estimated 13,000 were "out of status," which means there were problems with their visas. They're now awaiting deportation hearings. But experts say many of the visa problems were caused by inaccurate data and long delays in processing applications for permanent status. The Justice Department eventually canceled the program.
"By singling out a large group of mostly Arabs and Muslims, [these programs] involved a massive investment of law-enforcement resources with negligible return," says James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute in Washington.
In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, discrimination against Muslim- and Arab-Americans also soared. In 2001, the FBI reported a 1,600 percent increase in anti-Muslim hate crimes and an almost 500 percent increase in ethnic-based hate crimes against persons of Arab descent, according to Mr. Zogby.
And the Monitor writer seems to suggest this as an example:
Last week, six imams returning from a conference on religious tolerance were removed in handcuffs from a US Airways flight from Minneapolis to Phoenix after a passenger raised concerns about "suspicious behavior." Three of them were seen praying in the waiting area and a fourth reportedly asked for a seat-belt extension. DHS's Office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties has opened an investigation.
Efforts to bridge the gap
"One of the most disturbing things is that [polls show] more than half of the country views Islam as a violent or an extreme religion," says Faiza Ali, a student at Pace University, who spoke at the conference in New York.
The FBI found many such misperceptions about Islam among its agents as well, according to Andrew Arena, the special agent in charge of the New York FBI office. And so, as as the bureau began a concentrated effort to reach out to the Muslim community, education became one of its first priorities. At the FBI Academy and in ongoing field training, agents are now taught about the Muslim faith - its basic tenets and things like the difference between Shiites and Sunnis.
"It's helped to make our agents more culturally sensitive to the concerns of not only the Muslim community, but all of the communities that we deal with," says Mr. Arena.
Don't foreget the rapes that are happening:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/6177334.stm
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-and.html
Did someone say trust?
Forgive them because they know not what they do? I don't think so.
How arrogant of the FBI and Dept of Homeland Security ! These groups are trying to work against the commands of Allah.
For example:
4.144
004.144
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?
A good muslim can never 'trust' anyone but another good muslim. Allah commands it for eternity. How dare the enemies of Allah attempt to build bridges? The FBI, Dept of Homeland Security and the Pontiff ( means bridge builder ) in Rome.... they are all enemies of Allah's agenda. How perverse are they....
There is no way to trust anyone whose belief system is completely contrary to the U.S. constitution, and has as it's goal the subjugation of every host country to it's theocratic ideology. Muslims cannot be trusted...they are unable to assimilate or give loyalty to any non-Islamic government or people.
What person in their right mind who had a virus or bacteria that seeks to destroy cells/body systems trying to take over their body, would do anything to make that virus or bacteria more comfortable? That's idiotic...a host and a virulent virus/bacteria cannot co-exist.
Islam is not some belief system that can have a symbiotic relationship with our culture. It seeks to destroy our Judeo Christian values and Constitutional ideology. But that is what our deluded politicians and leaders are doing with Islam and Muslims...trying to say we can have a beneficial symbiotic relationship. No. There needs to be a discussion at the highest levels on Islam and the Constitution...namely, people who believe in Islam are unable by that belief to be an American...to uphold the Constitution and the underlying ideologies.
Belief in Islam is belief in sedition.
If there was a spate of lynchings of black people in Alabama, would it be seen as "discriminatory" or somehow infinging someone's rights if the police paid special attention to KKK members?
Trust is a one-way street.
"Let believers not make friends with infidels - he that does this has nothing to hope for from God - except in self defense." Allah(3:28)
"Believers, do not make friends with anyone but your own people." Allah(3:118)
"Believers, do not befriend your fathers or your brothers if they choose unbelief in preference to faith. Wrongdoers are those that befriend them." Allah (9:23)
The gap was, and still is being created by Muslims on a daily basis. We cannot afford to reach out and apologize to an ideology that works to undermine us at every turn. The Quran has given them the right to deceive us(taquiya), and tell us half truths(kitman). They are driven by anti-jewish,anti-christian, and anti-western values and directed by there religion to aggressively convert us to Islam or we should die.
Any appeasement only emboldens their determination to aggressivly pursue that end.
They represent a much greater threat to America than our Japanese Americans ever did who where turned into camps like Manzanar and many others.
Muslim trust gap? You cant trust Muslims when they amass to GREAT numbers in you area --wait because they are coming to a country near YOU , maybe your own nation ...they will either invade it outright or slowly build up (as they have in the south of phillipines and want shiara law there now).
Here is my post from another thread (trust me its worth repeating --go on click on the videos, read the NY times artcile on Muslim denial of massacres in Turkey). They'll do it in YOUR hometown if muslims become more plentiful than its safe to have in any infideal nation.......
The Crusades of course were a defence against constant mulsim encrouchment and attack. Finally when the muslims took over Asia Minor (there were no muslims of any kind in Turkey before 1000-1100 AD) the subjected the christians and jews there to, you guessed it, Shiara law and the "your not a muslim so pay for it tax" (jizya) . Finally around 1915 they wanted to force mass numbers of remaining Chrisitians in Asia Minor (now called Turkey) so they rouned up MILLIONS of these people. We know them as ARMENIANS. Also they rounded up thousands upon thousands of Greeks, and the 100,0000+ Jewish population that existed there. Over 2 million Armenians were killed and hundreds of thousands of other Christians.
Under Shiara law you MAY kill Christians and Jews if they are "not acting properly" after "court judgements" have been settled against them.
There are surviovors to THIS day, very old but who have not forgotten what happened. Many of these people were interviewed over 20 years ago.
Their testimonies survive...
Here are only a few of them in video testimony telling you what the muslims put them through:
Armenian Genocide Survivor Sam Kadorian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfC0thL5lUc
Armenian Genocide (1915) Survivor: Hagop Assadourian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln3JYUYnsqE&mode=related&search=
Armenian Genocide (1915) Survivor: Richard Parseghian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ijIaMWwtk&mode=related&search=
Armenian Genocide (1915) Survivor --Alice Muggerditchian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHiaiqowsQg&mode=related&search=
Armenian Genocide Survivor Vartan Hartunian 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNYiNbRZBDk&mode=related&search=
MORE SURVIVORS (just key in Armenian Genocide Survivor on youtube.com) or press link below for the indexed results of that search:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Armenian+Genocide+Survivor&search=Search
Please note there is also a PROPAGANDA docutmentary called 'truth about Armenia" put on youtude by a Turkish govt official. They have organized countless propaganda programs to promote
that Armenia Genocide didnt happen. Of course its really hard for the world to forget the piled up bodies (just like in the Nazi holocaust). Many WESTERN journalists (like Americans and some Brits) took pictures of what happened and national geographic did a story with picutures at that time (I personally have copies of it they are also available at bigger university libraries around the US and free world). This is why the US and every EU country does not deny the genocide
but our muslim 'friends' deny it and get enraged when a "crusader" like the Pope visits them. If they accept the Pope today what hidden truths would they have to accept next time?
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********WE WANT YOUR LITTLE BOYS AND GIRLS FOR ISLAM AS YOU LEAVE TURKEY LEAVE THEM BEHIND OR WE WILL TAKE THEM*********************
PS
(when they forced on mass migration out --the turks and kurds would raid the caravan to take little boys and girls in keeping with Muhammeds rules of slave accquisition during 'war'. Look at what this survivor has to say):
Armenian Genocide Survivor - Kevork Balian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdnHOSs0XNA
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Turkeys denial in the news (2006 article!)
QUOTE FROM NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE (link to whole article below):
"Turkey, Armenia and Denial
Published: May 16, 2006
Turkey's self-destructive obsession with denying the Armenian genocide seems to have no limits. The Turks pulled out of a NATO exercise this week because the Canadian prime minister used the term "genocide" in reference to the mass killings of Armenians in Turkey during and after World War I. Before that, the Turkish ambassador to France was temporarily recalled to protest a French bill that would make it illegal to deny that the Armenian genocide occurred. And before that, a leading Turkish novelist, Orhan Pamuk, was charged with "insulting Turkish identity" for referring to the genocide (the charges were dropped after an international outcry).
Turkey's stance is hard to fathom. Each time the Turks lash out, new questions arise about Turkey's claim to a place in the European Union, and the Armenian diaspora becomes even more adamant in demanding a public reckoning over what happened"
quote from "THE NEW YORK TIMES" full article may 16 2006:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/16/opinion/16tue3.html?ex=1305432000&en=cfccaddb1b9957a1&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
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but trust gap how about trust chasm, it was Muslims do not stand up before 9/11 to help stop the attacks on the world trade center. And as Muslims it is the ones that cair that need to bridge the trustgapnot the USA is Islam that has a history of invading and forcing itself on Captive populations that are put to death or enslaved if they fight back. And unfortunately it seems that a lot of the Muslim world considers itself at war with the West and until that changes there will be a trust gap.
"9/11 created a pretty big divide"
In the New York skyline? Sure.
Between 'Religion of Peace' apologists and realists? Sure.
The chutzpah of CAIR is always impressive. What's the Arabic for chutzpah by the way?
The trust gap creaked when Moslem FBI Special Agent Gamal Abdel-Hafiz refused to wear a wire to a meeting with acknowledged terror financier Prof. Sami al-Arian. Sami was acquitted of the terror charges and set free. Special Agent Gamal filed a religious discrimination complaint and also gets off scot-free.
Agent Gamal's claim is of course a lie. Moslem record Moslems all the time. They did it with a digital hand-held units to shoot video of Abu Musab Zarqawi saw off that Italian journalist's head.
I can imagine an Italian FBI agent refusing to wear a wire to a meeting with John Giotti becuase "Italians don't record Italians."
What Agent Gamal was really saying was, "Screw off, the rules don't apply to me. As a Moslem I'm a prerogate and I'm not here to work for you, I'm here to do as I damned well please."
The FBI has since, of course, launched a Moslem recruiting campaign in order to bridge the gap by throwing blind trust at Moslem special agents hired for their religion, not their skill.
America, wake up!!
I can guarentee that there are as many 'misconceptions' about Christianity within the FBI field agents views. I don't see anyone allowing Christian groups into the FBI to teach them about the Christian faith.
This MUST be viewed as what it IS, it is PROSYLITIZING. They are trying to convert the agents by preaching to them.
We are allowing, and it has been admitted by the enemy, that Islam is being teached in law enforcement, schools, colleges. All the while you don't see any public official picking up books or consulting with anyone to find out what the enemy is up to. If the public official wants an opinion they ask the enemy 'what are your intentions'. Would you ask a pedophile to baby sit your child and ask them what 'your intentions are for the night'.
The Jews have been attacked for how long from the muslims? The Jews speak and understand the Islamic languages, and they understand their ideology, but yet the Jews are not hired to work in the FBI. So, instead the FBI brings in muslims to preach, spread ideology, translate (mis-translate) our field agents.
Would we have allowed Nazi SS agents to train our law enforcement in 1939? Why the hell are we doing it now?
Oh, and Democrats this is not a police action, we are at war.
I would love to see Christian groups DEMAND or SUE for equal time in the same forim as Islam is allowed. Christians are not granted the right to preach in a muslim country, and now Christians are not being granted the right in a Christian country.
Far from being reprimanded, in February 2001 special agent Abdel-Hafiz was promoted to one of the FBI’s most important anti-terrorism posts, the American Embassy in Saudi Arabia, to handle investigations for the FBI in that Moslem country.
Here's a trust gap bridge for ya.
Kinda reminds me of all the Moslems the US gov't hired to translators for Homeland Security. Discriminating, they refused to hire Arabic-speaking Jews. Trust gap.
Plus there was another genocide by the Muslim Turks against the Greek Christians in the early 20th century which is sometimes lumped in with the Armenian genocide but which in many respects is a sepearate muslim attack on another group of famous Christian cities and getting rid of the Christians there:
http://www.greece.org/genocide/
quote from above link:
In September 1922, Mustapha Kemal, the revolutionary ruler of Turkey , led his troops into Smyrna (now Izmir ), which at that time was a predominantly Christian city. While a flotilla of twenty-seven Allied warships - including three American destroyers - looked on, the Turks indulged in an orgy of pillage, rape and slaughter; which the Western powers condoned - eager to protect their oil and trade interests in Turkey - through their silence and by their refusal to intervene. Turkish forces then set fire to the legendary city and totally destroyed it. A massive cover-up followed, by tacit agreement of the Western Allies, who had defeated Turkey and Germany during World War I. By 1923, Smyrna 's demise was all but expunged from historical memory.
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PLUS THE MILLIONS KILLED Armenians, Greeks, Jews who would were killed after Constantinople was taken over. (Under shiria law you can kill the people of the book if they resisted you or you want to make an example of them after a war (according to Islamic court rulings of course!)
BUT THERE WAS A SECOND MASSACRE IN ISTANBUL(Constantinople) in 1896 also
Videos of massacre in Pontian area in Asia minor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xGhlJLL-ys
Turkish muslims kill christians in ancient christian city smyrna:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKXJDB0kubo
(warning GRAPHIC images of death of innocent christians must sign in youtube to view):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR45W_2tfOg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJrcDLgluw4
Also killings and mass pogrom against Greeks in Istanbul IN THE 1950s ! (why do you think there are only like a 1000 christians there now? Its been a long history of Muslims persecuting them, kicking them out and killing them):
http://wiki.phantis.com/index.php/Istanbul_Pogrom
texts
http://www.helleniccomserve.com/stavridisarmenianslaughter.html
http://armenianhouse.org/bliss/turkey/21-constantinople.html
http://www.helleniccomserve.com/smyrnaopener.html
ISLAMFORPIGKEEPERS had an excellent post in the other thread I want to reproduce it here . here is part of it because I feel it applies so well to this topic (thank you islamforpigkeepers)
QUOTE:
... judging by what has been on TV the past few months it looks like the West is finally waking up when both locks and CNN and programming critical to Islam and asking Islamic scholars hard questions they can answer maybe not all hope was lost if the Democrats will quit butt kissing in Saudi Arabia and in other Islamic groups butts maybe there is still hope but if bin Laden launches his American Hiroshima attack like Admiral Yamato said I fear we awaken to sleeping giant and filled him with a resolve. bin Laden probably is not herd that comment letalone the history of the second war if he had even realize that Americans will they may squabbled with each other as a nation when attacked on their soil as they were in 9/11 will tend to pull together and we see in the nuclear attack by terrorists and killed millions I would not want to be a Muslim in this country people when they're angry tend to take the law in their own hands ..."
Posted by: islamakapigeaters [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2006 04:19 AM
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the full post is in the papal visit threads I enjoyed it immensely
something to view after concerning the 'muslim trust gap':
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE THREAT --free excellent documentary on the issues of islam and the west. its threat to America and the free world. Good gathering of recent history and EXCELLENT summation of the threat as its stands today in all its aspects, including getting muslims to fight or agitate establish Islamic Caliphite (Islamic capital for the world) in WHATEVER country they find themselves. lots of stuff on the threat to America as well. PLEASE WATCH !
Wake- Up!...and Smell the Threat (Part 1 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ki75TYXFI
Wake-Up!...and Smell the Threat (Part 2 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su6hlrr824w
Wake-Up!...and Smell the Threat (Part 3 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUAy9DEzls4
Wake-Up!...and Smell the Threat (Part 4 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJfeNBeRN1k
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2006 03:23 PM
part 4 in the documentary above has a brief history of Adam Gadahn) that is the guy who "invitated" (threatened) Robert Spencer for Islam. Robert Spencer responded in FrontPage
see here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/013000.php
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2006 03:27 PM
Want to solve this thorny immigration problem? Shut the damn doors already. And if the Muslims already here want to bridge any gaps they need to get cracking on constructing those bridges since it's their co-cultists creating mayhem on a daily basis throughout the world. The only thing about that is that Islam does a marvelous job of destroying things but seldom builds anything. I guess those gaps will remain unbridged then.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/6177334.stm
'Mr Webb told Mohammed: "You have persisted in telling the probation officer that the victim in some way encouraged you to act in the way that you did." '
I wonder what she 'did' ? Do you think she was not wearing her hijab? And what a shocker ladies, one of the rapists was called 'Mohammed'. Does anyone have any stats on rapists' names? Or would that be illegal?
ISLAMSFORLOSERS quote:
"Want to solve this thorny immigration problem? Shut the damn doors already. "
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damn right.
I need to see a show of hands of all those infidels who are running out of patience with our government.
Hmmmm, I see too many raised hands to count.
How much longer do we have to put up with this crap? Is it patriotic to be the "good citizen" and support our elected and appointed officials? Is it patriotic to start a revolution and forcibly change our country's direction?
Find your own answers but keep them to yourselves.
There's no question the US Muslim community felt the brunt of the FBI's counterterrorism and law-enforcement initiatives after 9/11, say experts. More than 1,200 immigrants, mostly Arab and Muslim males, were detained and denied due process for months. The Justice Department's own inspector general concluded that their detentions were "indiscriminate and haphazard," with no clear distinction made between those held for immigration violations and those who were suspected terrorists. The report also found "a pattern of physical and verbal abuse" by correction officers. Ultimately, only a handful of those detained were charged with a terrorism-related offense, and 231 were deported.
What utter bullshit. What about the moslems who received a personal FBI escort out of America after 9/11?
The bin Laden family, the royals who were here? What about them? How did they receive such special treatment.
Go to judicialwatch.org
I need to see a show of hands of all those infidels who are running out of patience with our government
Posted by: Pelayo
My patience ran out when those muslim scum slammed airplanes into the WTC towers for thier grubby little backside desert religion.
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AMERICANINGERMANY thank you that is very kind. We 'infidels' have to stick together. I do those links because I want to make it easier for people interested to not have to search it for themselves. just click and your done.
Would it not just be plain stupid to trust taqiyya?
Who the hell put these people into power, me, you how about you over there in the corner, educate everyone that you can about politians voting record, thats one very good way to maintain our countries safety!!!My wife voted for bj clinton when we first got together, i asked her why .She said because he looks nice, didn't have a clue on his background or even cared. I educated her from that point on, now she asks questions and does look at their records, thats all i can ask for.I hope all common people no matter what party membership at least hold their politians to their campaign speaches!!!
AmericaninGermany and anybody interested would you like to come talk to our new "muslim" friend Oben d'Imishte currently posting at:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014184.php
who has been giving GreekGurl a hard time? he insists a way a true 'believer' could only insist ..
Oh really what is there really not to trust when Islam calls us:
a. The great satan
b. Death to America
c. Death to Infidels
d. Death to Israel
c. Death to anyone who doesn't believe in ROP
d. Death to the Pope
e. Death to anyone who insults Islam; but we can insult you and everyone else or we will kill you.
f. Peace cannot come to the world until it is under Islamic Law...
Okay....who caused the trust gap and exactly where have they given the reasons we should trust?
The west is certainly looking for those reasons...yet it is the west that must continue to concede and make apologies...
Really starting to get 'old'.
... Here is a trust gap: http://www.al-islam.org/taqiyah/toc.htm
I need to see a show of hands of all those infidels who are running out of patience with our government
Posted by: Pelayo
Pelayo, "our government" has been selling us out ever since Jimmy 'jello' Carter took office. Oh, by the way, the leader of the 'free-world' was pocketeted by wahhabbis long before he became the leader of the 'free-world'.
Muslims are very clearly not only showing open hostility, but engaged in acts of war against non-Muslims.
Never have apologies for their actions been forthcoming.
Thus, saying that "The FBI found many such misperceptions about Islam " shows nothing but sheer imbecility. What a moronic thing to say!
What misperceptions?
Those are clear perceptions.
need to see a show of hands of all those infidels who are running out of patience with our government
Posted by: Pelayo
I ran out of patience long ago , as much with the people I helped elect as the left-wingers like Pelosi, Clinton, et al. I have concluded that it doesn't really matter which party is in office because the politicians will cater to lobbyists, special interest minority groups, and their own greed and lust for power. There are a few exceptions, but not many.
I cannot believe that the brilliant minds in Washington have not yet "connected the dots" between islam and war, chaos, terrorism, religious supremacy, and imperialism. It is simply impossible for all of them to be deaf, dumb, and blind. So I guess the diplomats will bribe Iran and Syria to butt out of Iraq and Lebanon, we'll pull out of Iraq, and the moment we're gone, Iran will step in and the entire fiasco will have been for nothing. Iran will build its nukes, Hezbollah will take over Lebanon, HAMAS will continue to torment Israel until Syria and/or Iran join forces to wage all out war. Baker, Bush, and company's first priority is the oil supply and I guess they're willing to sacrifice Israel, Lebanon, and Iraq to keep it flowing. What will they do when they are betrayed, when the promises made by Syria and Iran are not kept, when the oil falls into enemy hands?
How far are they willing to go to protect the oil? What other concessions will they make to the rabid islamic predators for oil? I doubt if I want to know the answer to those questions. The European elites sacrificed their culture, history, and identity and betrayed their people to create Eurabia; what do ours have planned for us?
Mosques and their uses
In the war for Baghdad, mosques serve as garrisons. Sunnis use religious sanctuaries as strongholds to fight for mixed neighbourhoods. Shia extremists convert their mosques and prayer rooms, called husseiniyas, into execution chambers.
I posted this on a nother thread but I wanted to contribute to the "trust gap" I pray it may be WIDENED!!
For how many years have our big meat producing companies been feeding ground-up dead pigs to the cows and the sheep the raise for public consumption- which led to mad cow disease!
Ingesting this stuff has apparently led to mad moslem disease as well! see them foaming at the mouth.. their seething eyes ablaze.. like rabid dogs..
moslems, the JOKE'S ON YOU!!! we've been feeding you pig while you were thinking you were eating beef or lamb!!!!
And we will continue to be inventive in our use of the P.I.G. to save ourselves from the likes of u.
HAHHAHAHHHAHHHHHAHHAHAHHAAAAAA!!!!!
There's no question the US Muslim community felt the brunt of the FBI's counterterrorism and law-enforcement initiatives after 9/11, say experts. More than 1,200 immigrants, mostly Arab and Muslim males, were detained and denied due process for months. The Justice Department's own inspector general concluded that their detentions were "indiscriminate and haphazard," with no clear distinction made between those held for immigration violations and those who were suspected terrorists. The report also found "a pattern of physical and verbal abuse" by correction officers. Ultimately, only a handful of those detained were charged with a terrorism-related offense, and 231 were deported.
IF *ONLY*!!!
I need to see a show of hands of all those infidels who are running out of patience with our government
Posted by: Pelayo
You got both my hans in the air!! And a big fat middle finger to the Dhimmiticians!!!!
There's no question the US Muslim community felt the brunt of the FBI's counterterrorism and law-enforcement initiatives after 9/11, say experts. More than 1,200 immigrants, mostly Arab and Muslim males, were detained and denied due process for months. The Justice Department's own inspector general concluded that their detentions were "indiscriminate and haphazard," with no clear distinction made between those held for immigration violations and those who were suspected terrorists. The report also found "a pattern of physical and verbal abuse" by correction officers. Ultimately, only a handful of those detained were charged with a terrorism-related offense, and 231 were deported.
IF *ONLY*!!!
I need to see a show of hands of all those infidels who are running out of patience with our government
Posted by: Pelayo
You got both my hands in the air!! And a big fat middle finger to the Dhimmiticians!!!!
I trust only a dead muslim or an ex-muslim.