Tony Blair, ballyhooed "rejection of multiculturalism" notwithstanding, demonstrates that he still doesn't have a clue about political Islam. An interview by Anila Baig in The Sun (thanks to all who sent this in):
A MUSLIM could one day be Prime Minister, Tony Blair said last night.Speaking exclusively to The Sun, the PM said: “They said there would never be a woman Prime Minister, but there was. It would depend on how good they were.
“The people would judge who was best for the job.”
The Premier also said he would not mind if any of his children wanted to marry a Muslim, saying: "I would respect it, if that was their decision and they were in love and happy."
And that's why I voted for Mr. Blair as Dhimmi of the year.
Niv
That boy needs to get out more, i don't think he would like to have his daughter being beaten for walking beside her husband, Winston must be flippin real hard about now!!!
Who knows what he really knows on the inside? Maybe more than we think but somehow I doubt it.
He couldn't have become PM of the UK without being a true politician and we all know how good they are with lies and doublespeak.
As someone before me on another thread said...words to the effect:
He is just planning a "graceful" departure from the mess he has made.
So now everyone can "love" him!
It is clear from:
ISLAM WHAT THE WEST NEED TO KNOW
That his knowledge of Islam and the Koran are at best somewhat lacking.
I wish our politicians were educated before they open their mouths or maybe he has been told to says this to prevent terrorist attacks.Fear is a great motivator.
I now tip him to win the Dhimmi(Dummy) Internationale award.
Somebody give Blair a urine test. The man must be on drugs with all the crazy crap he's been saying lately. He's sounding like he's trying to out-Chirac even Chirac!
He's due to leave office in the next 6 months -I wish to god it was sooner although I've no idea what Brown's views are on Islam they can't be more naive than Blair's. This guy went out of his way to encourage state subsidised Islamic 'faith schools' in this country and is the single most powerful and consistent advocate of Turkish ntry into the EU. One of his party's first acts on coming to power was to ease restrictions on immigration from the Indian subcontinent. One of his own MP's, Ann Cryer, who has her own agenda about giving more fredom to female Muslims in her constituency, was over-ruled when she wanted the minimum age for marrying a spouse from abroad to be raised to 21 from 16. Under pressure from the mMuslim male community leaders it was only raised to 18. The particularly nasty habit of forced marriage has not been outlawed because more often than not it can't be distinguished from an arranged marriage- until the girl rings the police or runs away.
With his speech on integration the other day, however, I got the impression that he has acquired some inkling of Islamic bad faith and ill will towards British institutions. I'm not sure if he was definite about forced marriage and the minimum age but the government is going to re-consider its position on these subjects. He's now also taking other minor and inadequate steps to try and restrain Muslim seperatism.
In my opinion, another finishing touch to his 'disassociation' with responsibility for the current situation in Britain prior to his leaving politics.
Now he can plead ignorance when that mob of angry indigenous Brits drags him from his bed in the middle of the night.
I think and I hope that Blair, and Bush too when they make these kinds of statements are practicing a little deception of their own. I think and hope that they are moving step by step and do not want to give the enemy any more points to rally their ignorant followers who are so easily provoked to crazy behavior.
I don't think he's on drugs, I just think he watched too many Star Trek episodes, and now he wants to put a Klingon on the Bridge.
Tony Blair is a complete idiot (a naive on at that).
http://www.lightforthelastdays.co.uk/docs/islam/tony_blair.html
I rest my case.
on = one
Here’s what we know for sure:
1. At some basic level, democracy threatens excellence* (the one who excels can always be outvoted by those who don’t). This plays out over time in more and more wealth re-distribution. The current status is a series of financially-shaky social safety nets where a non-productive person can lead a more or less normal life in comfort.
2. These social safety nets are attracting people’s from less successful societies by the tens of millions. This demographic tends to vote for additional wealth re-distribution for social services, further threatening excellence.
3. Taxes re-distribute people far more efficiently than they re-distribute income. One percent of the US population pays 34% of the tax burden. If taxes go through the roof, these people can re-locate to lower tax Countries who welcome them with open arms. The French businesspeople are already leaving. Trump is building in Panama. Gates reportedly has land in Belize. Costa Rica is very popular.
4. Democratic societies addicted to the social safety net will be reluctant to vote to eliminate or reduce it when a massive, and growing, block of the voting public does not pay any significant taxes.
5. The course the West is on is unsustainable. Give me a trillion bucks and I'll show you a good time too. But the checks will, sooner or later, stop showing up in the mail.
And I’m guessing that what comes next will prove Mr. Blair to be very wrong.
*the word 'excellence' used hypothetically, the correlation between excellence and wealth is pretty shaky, see the US Senate for an introduction.
If that happens, there will be a muslim king a well.
And they throw a fit when William dates a Catholic.
More Muslim rapists:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news/tm_method=full%26objectid=18235206%26siteid=66633-name_page.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2496632,00.html
English Blondie,
I read the link about the rapist. A girl is waiting for a bus and gets dragged into a car, how scary is that? A girl is intoxicated and well that is a different story and these things do happen. Although of course that shouldn't happen either
I remember reading the story about Kriss Donald and was horrified.
I had a friend growing up who carried mase around even though it was illegal. There is also a pepper spray which burns the eyes and makes them tear. I think it's time for all of these young girls (boys too I guess)to learn self defense, kick boxing is one and there's others. It is definitely time to take an extreme measure and fight back. (No, I'm not a gun toting individual, yet :).
Also, they may not be able to walk around all alone after a certain hour which of course is not fair. You should be safe in your own country.
I've been a city girl all of my life and know the perils. What a sad world.
Cheers
I think Brown is even worse, he has all the statistics at his fingers, and says that the Muslim population have added greatly to the UK economy when in fact they make up most of the unemployed and are a real drain.
But then again as he is so damn incompetent it may be possible that he really believes that? Or perhaps there is a Muslim spiv doctoring official stats, the MB get everywhere.
OT, but the day after the ISG report, on French radio, Inter, a French journalist was gleefully pointing out that only the French understand the Arab world, in a very self-important way that only the most arrogant left wing French can do it.
So I turned to my wife and said, so that explains why they got kicked out of Algeria, their influence has been removed from Lebenon and now their own country is going up in flames when the Muslims get upset with too few crumbs..., typical, talk big, but do nothing!!!
So bLiar wouldn't mind if one of his kids married a moslem !
Strange I know of a hindu girl who married a moslem, she got a really nice wedding present from her father.... he died of a heart attack !!
I kid you not.
AI
Before we all get too indignant, let's examine what Tony Blair actually said (as reported by the Sun):
(1) "A Muslim could one day be Prime Minister ... The people would judge who was best for the job.”
We all presumably agree with both of these statements, though we hate the idea of the first. Anti-Islamists will want to prevent that outcome through persuasion within the democratic process.
(2) "I would respect it [my son or daughter marrying a Muslim], if that was their decision."
That is a personal matter. We might think him foolish, but he doesn't say he would be overjoyed, he just implies that parents today have to accept their children marrying someone they (the parents) may not necessarily like.
In my opinion the whole thing is just another example of our PM's genius for stating the obvious.
This is where they all are ! I wondered where the people who believed in Tony Blair were..........it looks as if his fan club meets on Dhimmi Watch.
Noone who can vote in the United Kingdom believes a word he says - whether it is the 1999 promise to provide enough NHS dentists within 2 years or any of the others things he has said over the past 12 years.
Blair is a master of 'positional truth' saying only what the questioner wants to hear. He is a complete charlatan and almost feminine in the way he tries to ingratiate himself with those directly around him even if it contradicts what he said yesyerday somewhere else.
He believes in himself only and is a supreme narcissist - everyone else is an extra in his own personal stage drama
"A MUSLIM could one day be Prime Minister, Tony Blair said last night."
It's one thing if he volunteered this statement out of the blue; it's another if he was asked point-blank by the reporter, "Do you think a Muslim will ever be Prime Minister?"
Well, what is he going to say in response? He's a politician, this is going to be in the newspaper, and as Prime Minister he's supposed to work on behalf of all British people, Muslim included.
If he said, "Never!" and listed all the reasons why this would be a mistake (Sharia law, etc.), there'd be a death fatwah (sp?) on him and his family, there'd be the biggest uproar of all time, and who knows what else would happen. He'd certainly retire with a black mark against his name: "the most racist Prime Minister of all time", blah, blah.
Just imagine: "Prime Minister Tony Blair sparked outrage recently when he stated that no Muslim would ever be elected as Prime Minister because all Muslims (fill in the blanks). He also stated that no child of his would ever be permitted to marry a Muslim. 'Over my dead body', he declared, while slamming his fist on his desk...
"Hundreds of thousands of Muslims rioted in Britain on Friday in response to Blair's ill-timed remarks. Churches and businesses were bombed and burned and hundreds are feared dead in the worst rioting seen in England's history...
"Blair is expected to address the nation on television tonight. Early reports are that he will claim he was 'misquoted'..."
The same for the question about one of his children marrying a Muslim. I'd like to know if the reporter is Muslim because her questions lead me to think this article would be equally suitable for a Muslim religious magazine.
"This is where they all are ! I wondered where the people who believed in Tony Blair were..........it looks as if his fan club meets on Dhimmi Watch."
Eh???
So bLiar wouldn't mind if one of his kids married a moslem !
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AI
Posted by: apostate_islam at December 12, 2006 05:02 AM
After all, AI, when it comes to selecting spouses... ...Tony married Cherie, didn't he?
Gee, would he feel the same way if his child married a Jew?? What the hell is this thing the British have always had with the Arab world??? I just don't understand it!!
Josephine, the reporter is Muslim and I think normally wears a hiqaab.
Just a quick question to the regulars, is there anyone who disagrees with this comment at the end of the article?
The PM said: “We can worship God in our own way.
“It’s what being British means. And neither racists nor extremists should be allowed to destroy it.”
maybe like John Kerry:
What you heard me say is not what I meant to say.
"...the reporter is Muslim and I think normally wears a hiqaab." Posted by: DM Andy
Thanks. That makes perfect sense based on the questions asked. She has a particular agenda and it came through loud and clear. What else could Blair say or do?
Gee, would he feel the same way if his child married a Jew?? What the hell is this thing the British have always had with the Arab world??? I just don't understand it!!
Posted by: TeachESL at December 12, 2006 07:42 AM
I'd attribute it to the "noble savage" thing.
Arabs on camelback travelling through the desert, from oasis to oasis, is a much more romantic image compared to, say, shtetl Jews eking out an existence as best they can despite discriminatory laws and the annual Easter season pogroms.
Maybe W's twins can hook up with some nice muslim twins and have tons of little yard-jihadis crawling around.
IOW Tony Blair is just fine with his daughter becoming a Muslim baby factory, dedicated to increase the numbers of the Ummah. That is what infidel wives are... they are always viewed as Muslim baby factories for the demographic jihad. OF COURSE THEY ARE COMPELLED TO CONVERT when they marry a son of Allah
Tony "the Liar" not only las a clue of what he's doing - he knows EXACTLYhat he's doing - don't fool yourself.
Those at the top called the Elite- are all member of some kind of gang - (they call themselves Masons) also in Islamic countries - wherein they can id themselves. Even when out of office officially - and they get "preferred status." Don't you think The Tony the "Poodle"
is best pal with "whatshisface" of Iran?
So when the "great Unwashed" is screwed - the Elite will always get special privileges.
This sort of thing has always gone on - even before the time of the Romans. The Romans conquered - and took the "native" rulers back home with them - and after the big show of parading in golden chains - they lived in style later.
The saying is something like " the last act of a deposed ruler - before he runs off - is to empty the country's treasury" - or something like that.
What is the greatest treasure the West has?
Allat
And...
"A MUSLIM could one day be a US Congressman,"
Pigtails
And here's as innocent a rape victim as it's possible to get
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6273495,00.html
You'll notice that they still can't bring themselves to say the word Muslim, instead using that good old standby, Asian.
However, with a shaven head and a beard I doubt he's a Sikh or a Hindu ...
Hi Pigtails not veils, and Merry Christmas!
I'm a city girl too, and it isn't safe here. I know there are rapists in all groups, but they are over represented in certain groups, way over represented. The Government knows it but they still put us at risk. Most of the things that go on never even get media coverage here.
Anyway, Merry Christmas to you and to all JW readers.
Josephine
" He'd certainly retire with a black mark against his name ... "
Josephine - his entire name IS a black mark here in Britain.
And another:
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/swindonnewsheadlines/display.var.1068562.0.girl_17_in_violent_sex_attack.php
"...his entire name IS a black mark here in Britain."
Posted by: Sir Henry Morgan
Oh, boy. Then he'd have an extra, extra double-black mark.
http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=44831
“Recently, the city of Stockholm carried out a survey of ninth-grade boys in the predominantly Muslim suburb of Rinkeby. The survey showed that in the last year, 17% of the boys had forced someone to have sex”
Blair and Brown are cretins...i wrote to my member of parliament to complain about Gordon
Brown`s reaction to the second trial and second
aquittal on race hate charges of two BNP members.
My member of parliament told me that this was all
a shame as he believed in everyone living
together in harmony.
I checked his voting record , he voted in favour
of the Iraq invasion !
Anyway criticism of Islam cannot be perceived
as racism !
Why can't these muslim rapists do like the Taleban and just snuggle up to a smooth faced boy.
Merry Christmas to you English Blondie, Sir Henry and to everyone.
I read that other link. My God, walking on a sunday afternoon! It's unbelievable. Yes, another Asian, never the M word.
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
Aladdinsane57 - this is what the Times said about the Government's reaction:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2457279,00.html
" Worse still was the suggestion that the law should be altered to ensure that, next time the State stages a trial of political dissidents, they will be found guilty. Such cynical manipulation of the justice system for political ends is something we might normally associate with the “public safety” committee of some little police state. "
The PM said: “We can worship God in our own way.
“It’s what being British means. And neither racists nor extremists should be allowed to destroy it.”
Posted by: DM Andy
Even if some like to worship their god by beheading and blowing up other people.
I am beginning to feel a bit smug just about now. LOL. I voted for BLiar and Bush as the über-Dhimmis. They are doing their nomination much honor.
More proof may be seen here that Islam is a disease. Now, Mr. Blair it seems has come down with a terminal case of it...
All this is starting to remind me of the ending of the classic 1956 sci-fi feature "INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS"!!! (or, is it reminding me of "ROSEMARY'S BABY"?????).
Only now we are dealing with aliens who can obliterate brains too!!!! Mr. Blair has gone brain dead from Islam!!!!!!!!!
Yipe!!!!!!!!
Dear Mr. Blair,
You're one hell of an outstanding human being and magnaminous as well. Save your platitudes for your memoirs. Do your job saving Great Britain from the plague of Islamic Supremicism.
The more I read about those in power the more disgusted I get. One would have to expend great effort to keep oneself as willfully ignorant as Bush, Blair and Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-Texas) demonstrate.
We need to throw the bums out and continue doing so until we can get some people into government who will protect & defend the people they serve.
It seems to be getting worse, not better.
Blair's government are spending millions of pounds a week on translation services for immigrants according to a BBC investigation. You can watch the report on tonight's Newsnight:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/?id=newsnight
Click on 'watch tnight's programme'- the cost of translation report starts 10 minutes into the programme. I think that this is only available to watch for 24 hours. There is a middle aged woman from Turkey who came here 5 years ago and the tax payer funds her translation to take a stopping smoking course. Watch it all. Woolas - one of Blair's MPS- is on and says he doesn't know the total cost to the tax payer. He also says that he thinks that this report will be used by what he calls the 'far right'. Well Mr Woolas and Mr Blair, is it more important that you hold onto power or that these matters get addressed? Are you admitting that you are wrong?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6174303.stm
Tony Blair should convert to islam, can just imagine the wicked witch (bitch) being totally obedient LOL
There will never be a muslim pm in England, unless he's called Kennedy (But won't last long)
He might hear the crack, but not the thump!!!
Hopefully Motormouth Galloway / Livingstone will locat their |OFF switches before someone ELSE does!!
Muhhamad Tony saw his friend fat twat mustaffa prescott shagging a bay sheep, I informed tony that this was illeagle, tony said that it was ok because it was HISLAM !!!
JVB
sorry should read "HISLAMB"
Appologies
JVB
From Wallyuk:
"I've no idea what Brown's views are on Islam they can't be more naive than Blair's".
Don't bet on it, Wal. In a speech at a Muslim award ceremony in March 2005, Brown said:
"...I want to honour you and members of the Muslim community as our modern heroes: standing for the highest ideals, bearing burdens, and bringing hope to us all in Britain".
as well as:
"British Muslims make a huge contribution to this country's success - to our prosperity, our society and our culture".
[Note for non-Brits: The UK Govt's own statistics show that 65% of working-age Muslims in the UK are not in work.]
and:
"What we share in common is the belief in fair play, in social justice and in the equality and potential not just of some but of all".
(Full text of speech at link below)
http://www.gnn.gov.uk/content/detail.asp?NavigatedFromSearch=True&NewsAreaID=2&ReleaseID=153559
So, on this evidence, it looks like Brown will be prove to be just as big a dhimmi as Blair, because he will be just as reliant on the Muslim block vote at election time.
Gordon Brown for Dhimmi Internationale 2007, anyone?
Matamoros
[Note for non-Brits: The UK Govt's own statistics show that 65% of working-age Muslims in the UK are not in work.]
Think you will find "receiving unemployment benefit" a more accurate phrase. To give one example The Sunday Times reported - but did not name - a family that spent most of the year in Pakistan managing their estates but drew British unemployment benefit. They also reported that Britain has a negative balance of payments with Bangaladesh recently voted "The most corrupt country in the world". Without stating the reasons but the implication was obvious.
Fred, and all other UK readers hierophant and wallyUk and everyone, there is another new UK site, it looks OK to me:
http://iblogauk.blogspot.com/
Matamoros,
Your comment about 65% of working age Muslims not working sounds fishy.
I could only find these figures from 2004 at http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=979
Their stats have 13% of working age (age 16-64) Muslim men unemployed and 19% of working age (age 16-59) Muslim women unemployed.
If you expand the definition to include economically inactive* Muslims the figures are 31% of working age Muslim men are not in work and 69% of working age Muslim women are not in work. Assuming an equal number of men and women, that makes it 50% of working age Muslims are not working.
The comparator figures for Christians is men 4% unemployed, 16% economically inactive and women 4% unemployed, 31% economically inactive, overall 4% unemployed, 24% economically inactive.
Do you have a cite for your figures, Matamoros?
*economically inactive means not in work, but not seeking work and therefore not in receipt of any unemployment benefit, examples would be students, housewives, long term disabled and the early retired.
Tony Blair and his liberal government is undermining the UK. Socialism is ruining that once great country with all its social problems. If the English had any common sense, they would tighten the asylum laws, reduce their social program spending and send the muslim and other troublemakers back to their country of origin.
"A MUSLIM could one day be Prime Minister, Tony Blair said last night.
It's one thing if he volunteered this statement out of the blue; it's another if he was asked point-blank by the reporter, "Do you think a Muslim will ever be Prime Minister?"
Well, what is he going to say in response? He's a politician, this is going to be in the newspaper, and as Prime Minister he's supposed to work on behalf of all British people, Muslim included.
Just imagine: "Prime Minister Tony Blair sparked outrage recently when he stated that no Muslim would ever be elected as Prime Minister because all Muslims (fill in the blanks). He also stated that no child of his would ever be permitted to marry a Muslim. 'Over my dead body', he declared, while slamming his fist on his desk..."
-- from a poster above
It is suggested by this poster that Blair, asked by an inquiring Muslim reporter about the possibility of a future Muslim Prime Minister, could only, out of politeness, have replied as he did.
Is this true? Could Blair not have replied , in carefully weighed words, something quite different and telling? Could he not have said that "anyone whose loyalty to the legal and political institutions of Great Britain as they are at present, anyone who fully supports freedom of conscience and freedom of speech, anyone who shares the concern for individeual rights as opposed to the supposed rights of the collective, anyone who agrees that men and women deserve complete legal and social equality, anyone who agrees -- and means it -- that no religion should be permitted to dictate to others and no belief-system hide its political ambitions behind the word "religion" -- yes, anyone who meets those and other criteria that I haven't the time to go into in this short answer, is someone I could contemplate becoming Prime Minister of Great Britain. But anyone who failed to meet a single one of the criteria listed would, in my opinion, be unfit, and even dangerous, for such a post."
And then he should have turned and looked closely at his inquiring interrogator, and said to her "Don't you agree"?
That would have been the way to handle it. He can do it that way, the next time.
"That would have been the way to handle it. He can do it that way, the next time."
Posted by: Hugh
That would have been great.
i think europe cant wait for it to be subjected to dhimmitude