If this turns out to be true, it doesn't come solely out of a willingness to put partisanship before national security. It comes from a lack of awareness that Hamas poses any national security threat at all. And that in turn is a result of believing one's own PC line. "Hamas confirms meeting with group of Democrats: Leader claims U.S. party willing to hold dialogue with terrorists," by Aaron Klein for WorldNetDaily.com, with thanks to R.E.:
TEL AVIV – A key Hamas official has confirmed reports from last week the terror group held meetings with "important Democrats."Ahmed Yousuf, chief political advisor to Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, told the Maannews Palestinian news website that Hamas officials met recently with high-ranking American figures, "especially members of the Democratic party."
He said Hamas also met with European leaders, including members of the British parliament.
Yousuf did not say when the meetings took place or which members of the Democratic party the terror group allegedly held dialogue with, but he stated the meetings were fruitful in introducing the Hamas political vision.
Last week, Maannews quoted a Hamas source claiming the terror group met with a delegation of "important Democrats" who expressed interest in relations with Hamas even if it doesn't recognize the right of Israel to exist.
Stacie Paxton, a spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee, told WND the party was not aware of any meeting.
According to the report, the alleged meeting with the Democrats took place in a European country following a series of preliminary meetings with representatives from the British and French governments.
Hamas is very clear about its views. It's charter, statements and actions leave no doubt.
Anyone who chooses to to ignore this is a fool.
will the Dhimiicrats who met with Hammas please come forward. Is this legal to meet with known terrorists? l think there are laws in time of war if that is true.
Pretty scary stuff.
Not only are the Democrats hell-bent on jacking up taxes and putting burdensome regulations on every business, they are also in full support of Islamic terror.
If they'd only put those truths in their policy statements, we wouldn't see them winning elections.
Oh well, so much for honesty.
they are having meetings with syria also. is there any difference?
these politicians have no business being representitives of american citizens!!!!
We always knew of late that there were fools in the Dem party. Also snakes like Ellison.
Are we ever in trouble.
Does the public believe that we can have a holiday from our vital and national interest, that we can ignore the threat and it will cease to exist ?
Apparently so.
A key Hamas official has confirmed reports from last week the terror group held meetings with "important Democrats." (*
I hope the Reps will find out who are these morons and wait to expose them before the elections. It is a great chance to kick the butts of the Dems.
Looks like the Demoncrats are negotiating the terms of surrender.
When Bush goes, so does the War.
Doesn't surprise me one bit...they've been doing it for decades,especially when their political opponents are in office.
Of course, what's not mentioned is the fact that the same ones who have done so in the past lose their own seat of power within 4-6 years.
I say LET them show their true selves, regardless of party...and let their constituents judge- they almost always do the right thing.
Heard again on the BBC today, this time from that fountain of islamic apologetics, Rosemary Hollis of the Royal Blah of International Affairs. Remember that line in "Lolita" about the girl who "wore a halter with little to halt"? That's Rosemary Hollis -- self-assured with little be self-assured about. She was going on and on about the "cripppling economic sanctions" imposed on the "Palestinians" by the Americans and Europeans.
Let's stop right there, because the BBC interviewer didn't stop to ask a question or two. Let's ask ourselves: are the "Palestinian" Arabs -- the ones whose picture you can see in The New Duranty Times today, with an advertisement in the background for a satellite television dish, and we all know that satellite television dishes are the very emblem of poverty, the symbol of utter despair brought on by "crippling economic sanctions," don't we?
So what are these "crippling economic sanctions"? They consist in this, and only this: the refusal of the United States, and of governments in the Infidel lands of Western Europe, to continue pouring a billion or two each year into the "Palestinian" coffers, which billions are spent, we know, by the leaders, on themselves, and then on a dozen separate "security" services and on buying weapons to be used against Israel -- explosives, rockets, guns of all kinds, even little projects as yet unpublicized by Israel. Arafat died having squirreled away a billion or so for himself, and with another few billion completely unaccounted for, but no doubt the bank accounts and European real estate of such people as Mahmoud Abbas and the rest of the Fatah or PLO leadership accounts for a good deal. Remember when Zuheir Mohsen was assassinated at his luxury apartment in Cannes? He's not the only one to have lived high; they all do. And of course one reason they love, like other Arab despots, to visit Paris or London or Washington is to enjoy those all-expenses paid vacations in the best suites at the Hotel Raphael (a former President of Lebanon used to love the best suite there, right on Avenue Kleber) or the Crillon (that's the one with the suite Mubarak likes), and it's no different anywhere else. Send in the girls, or in Arafat's case the boys, and send in the caviar for the general or even the colonel or captain or king, and let's party.
Well, what "crippling economic sanctions" -- as Rosemary Hollis of the Royal Blah put it to the BBC did not explain -- means is that we, the Infidels, are, perhaps only temporarily, refusing to pay for people who spend their time working to kill our fellow Infidels. The Israelis built their state out of nothing. They did make the desert bloom. Former physicists and art historians did drain the Huleh marshes, did plant trees, did build up an agricultural base, and then a technological base that, by dint of fantastic amounts of work and entrepreneurial flair, in high technology, in pharma ceuticals, in many areas rival the achievements of the largest and richest Western countries, whose citizens do not simultaneously have to worry constantly about fighting for their lives, and often to stop production to go to war, a war imposed on them by the most implacable and malevolent of enemies.
The greenhouses of the Israelis were handed over the "Palestinians" intact, bought for them by various Jewish well-wishers who hoped, and believed, that those "Palestinians" would set to work. It was nonsense from start to finish. Those "Palestinians" wrecked the greenhouses, as they have wrecked everything. They prefer, you see, to be paid for by Infidels. They prefer to go and demand -- for demand they do -- hundreds of millions, and then billions, which no one accounts for, which is largely diverted for sinister efforts, and which come on top of the longest-running fake "refugee" saga in world history, that UNRWA mission by which, ever since 1948, every local Arab and his brother has signed up for free everything, and no one ever dies but many are born and added to the rolls, and the U.N.'s funds for real refugees all over the world are reduced by all that money that goes, and goes, and goes, to those "Palestinians." And on top of it comes the billions that have come from America and Western Europe as that "aid" that has now been denied, just for a bit, and that the smooth Rosemary Hollises and editorial pages of The Guardian, Le Monde, The Bandar Beacon, and The New Duranty Times, and the assorted BBC and NPR speakers and speakerines dare to describe this, to us, the long-suffering Infidel taxpayers who have been shelling out such funds for people who hate not only the Israelis, with whom we should all sympathize and identify with, but all Infidels, everywhere.
Meanwhile, the Arabs and Muslims have taken in over ten trillion dollars from OPEC revenues since the fall of 1973. Ten trillion dollars. They have built assorted Las Vegases, with private palaces for the ruling class, and then some. They have bought hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons, and in so doing have corrupted, and involved in corruption, a large number of people in the capitals of the West. Why, just the other day the British government closed down an investigaton into the clear violation of British law, because the demands of the Al-Saud family, to allow its corruption and theft of Saudi national assets, to go uninvestigated, took precedence over such a thing as the mere rule of law.
And with this ten trillion dollars, beyond the arms and the palaces and the dozens upon dozens of private jumbo jets for these daggers-and-dishdashas primitives, there has been money for the "shahids" -- the assorted suicide bombers and their families, but not for the "Palestinians" generally. The Infidels, you see, are expected to give that aid -- aid which is has become expected by the recipients, and which the donors too have come to believe that they, those donors, simply must keep providing lest those Muslim recipients get angry with those Infidels for not continuing to provide such aid, and when Muslims are denied their Jizyah, then all kinds of things can happen.
This is a completely absurd situation. If someone down the street despises you, would like nothing better than to see you submit to his dominance and to be permanently reduced to a condition of humiliation and degradation, as Muslims believe Infidels must, by right, be made to do in lands where Islam dominates (and Islam must come to dominate everywhere), and if you begin, hoping to buy his good-will, to support him entirely, for he does nothing except, at this point, prepare and plot to destroy not you in particular, but others who like you are Infidels (and because they are Infidels), and if you then, temporarily, and only until a meaningless verbal formula is uttered by that malevolent and evil man, or one of his associates, and then you promise, tugging at your forelock, to renew those payments with alacrity, and then that man starts screaming about the "crippling economic sanctions" you have imposed on him by ceasing to support him as you have, what would you say? Would you agree with the BBC and much of the Western press, and certainly with smooth-talking Rosemary Hollis of the Royal Blah that in sooth he is right, that indeed you have imposed "crippling economic sanctions"?
Or would you react in a different way, with different words?
They are the party in opposition and they are holding meetings with enemies of the state? By doing so are they not undermining the foreign policy of the government in power?
Yes i know all they can do is say we will bend over when we finally get power, but the fact remains that any negotiations done on the part of the government could be undermined by the democrats making easy promises that they will not need to fulfil unless they win power.
Call Britain all you like, but the Tories would not hold meetings with the enemy. And the Tories are next in line for power just like the democrats.
WE HAVE A MOLE IN WASHINGTON
The Dhimmicrats are not outright denying the reports, they are just "officially" saying they don't know of any meetings bw Dhimmicrats and Hamas. In spite of this, Hamas' claims to have had meetings w/ some high-ranking Dhimmicrats has an air of authenticity, since the Dhimmicrat party cannot deny the claims and since Hamas has mentioned the Democrats which are more secular and more anti-Israel in general. It would be nice if Hamas would name names, but since they would be doing irreparable damage to their allies in US government, they probably won't.
What national security intelligence was compromised in this meeting? It sickens me to think that there are high-ranking members of the US Congress that I simply feel threatened by. I can't trust them. If we elect a Dhimmicrat President in two years all Hell will break lose in the global jihad!
This is KGB type stuff. We need the FBI to keep a surveilance on our own federal legislators FOR OUR OWN NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS!
Tookson...
just "A" mole in washington???
tack on a couple more zeros and you'll be closer.
Just remember this, it was through a democratic administration that the first world tower explosion, embassy bombings, cole attack, ok city bombing took place. Americans voted with their emotions instead of their brains when they put the democrats back into power.
Leftists would sell out this country because they hate america more than they do terrorists.
Neville Chamberlain met with hitler too and said that hitler was no threat. Winston Churchill knew better. Europe sat idlely by while hitler took over. History has a way of repeating itself because people just don't seem to learn.
O, Muslim town of Bethlehem...
Ummah News Links
By theway,for some who brought it up, the relevant law they so seek to address is this:
See US Constitution, Amendment XIV, Section III
Sad to say, it's been tried,but with vicious militants like Henry Waxman who refuse to pursue/ convict "no matter what"(the evidence), it's a waste of time for now...
I'm a Right Wing extremist, but let's not single out the Dems. After all, when RINO's like Arlen Specter and Daryl Issa think it's worth going to Syria, the implication that things would be okay if the Dems didn't control the house is malarkey.
JCOM
Too true, too true...
I thought Democrats a.k.a. the dhimmi-crats where the American Hamas and Hezbollah subsidiary here in the USA so should it surprise us that they were meeting with their Masters in the Middle East, just look at that Muslim congressman Nancy Posey is going to put in as someone involved in the oversight of our nations security, Hamas and Hezbollah and Al Qaeda is going to have almost free access to our country under the demon-crats in the name of political correctness I predict that Nancy will in ayear will convert to Islam and where the a Burka in Congress mind you in my opinion the way she looks it might be an improvement or at least an improvement in the scenery
Before we trip over ourselves condemning the Dems lets remember the truth of this allegation is not 100% certain. Mr. Spencer's first line is "If this turns out to be true" and our only conformation comes from our totally trustworthy neighborhood "Hamas official"
Thats right , muslims never lie, SAY WHAT!!!!
well OLD SARGE they only when there mouths move.
the report of this is believeable because of what the Democats have been saying , especially lately with this stupid Baker report, as if talking to iran and syria would help the ME. and Kerry the corrupt weasel was just in Egypt. so yes l can believe it, but l mostly some little unknown Demicrat went to Europe and ran into a Hammas appologist at some party in Paris. that would in the mind of the hammas make it a meeting.
"ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE!!!!!"
Oh snap I'm screwed then O_O
Anything stupid, anything to embarrass our nation--yup, that's the democrats.
If they didn't do this--they will very soon. Count on it.
for those of you who dont know, the democrats were giving aid and suppoprt to al qaeda in raping and slaughtering the serb christians in kosovo!
In march 2003 while america was fighting and killing muslim terrorist in afghanistan and iraq clinton was in srebrenica at the commomeration of a million dollar monument the dhimmicrats funded to honor the al qaeda muslim terrorist for a job well done in raping and slaughtering serb christians.
During ww11 the serbs risked their lives to save over 600 american aviators shot down by the nazis. clinton and the dhimmicrats repaid their sacrifice by giving aid and support to the muslim terrorist to rape and slaughter the sebs and steal their land!
activate this link, see clinton in march 2003 at the commemoration ceremony of the millioun dollar monument sponsored by the dhimmicrats in srebrenica!
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Demo-Nazis.html
serb christians saved over 600 american flyers shot down by nazis!
clinton and the dhimmoicrats repaid their sacrifice by giving aid and support to muslim terrorist in raping and slaughtering the serb christians!
http://srpska-mreza.com/Kosovo/NATO-attack/USA-pilots.html
Maj. Richard L. Felman wrote a letter and begged clinto and the dhimmicrats not to aid the muslims in attacking raping and slaughtering the serbs who had saved his and 600 other american aviators during ww11.
http://srpska-mreza.com/History/ww2/Felman/snf-speech.html
For those of you who dont know, muslims joined hitlers army by the thousands and fought with the nasis in raping torturing and slaughtering Jews and christians! Thes muslim nasis were called "ustashis, they were so brutal in their rape ,torture and slaughter of the jews and christians they were repulsive event to hitlers nazis!
this is not his story
this is not my story
this is HISTORY!
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/gallery.html
muslim nazis, hitler taught them well!
arafats uncle the grand mufti of jerusalem was a nazi under hitler!
Muslims were attacking and murdering americans during the clinton administration, clinton done nothing because the clinton administration was giving aid and support to the muslim terrorist in raping and slaughtering the christian serbs in kosovo!
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Kosovo/Washington-Crusade.html
the dhimmicrat party is a fitting name!
Thndrbang:
That is historically documented fact...as a matter of fact, they were recruited into their own units under auspices of the SS, complete with runes, regalia and all. Divisions included names such as Handzar & Skenderberg (most of which came from Kosovo & Bosnia).
The mufi of Jerusalem not only worked under/for Hitler, he has his own de facto embassy, and radio station to broadcast his vile poison to the arab world as well.
Thndrbang:
That is historically documented fact...as a matter of fact, they were recruited into their own units under auspices of the SS, complete with runes, regalia and all. Divisions included names such as Handzar & Skenderberg (most of which came from Kosovo & Bosnia).
The mufi of Jerusalem not only worked under/for Hitler, he has his own de facto embassy, and radio station to broadcast his vile poison to the arab world as well.
Posted by: jcom972
True jcom972 but even though it is hostorically documented i have spoken to liberal democrats who claim this is serb propaganda! Ofcourse they will never bother to go to read the facts from an encyclopidia!
The links ive posted above give the references to the encylopedias where all this information can be found! including pictures of the nazi muslim grand mufti of jerusalem, arafats uncle!
It didn't take long for these two fine organizations to have a chat, did it? The Anarchist party hasn't even taken over Congress yet and here they are getting cozy with terrorists. They'll probably raise our taxes so they can "buy off" Hamas. I'm sure Israel is just happy to death about all this. Pelosi and company will make Pakistan's Mushy Raff look like a man of integrity by comparison.
This is a bit disturbing, but people won't listen unless you try to talk to them. I'd talk to anyone, as long as I can do it without getting shot at or kidnapped. That's not to say I'd be willing to give one cent of support to a group like Hamas, though - but I would be willing to let them rant and rave all they want, and then tell them exactly where we draw the line (and what will happen if they step over it). Hamas is awful, but there could always be somebody worse.
Understood Thndrbang...
My sources are US archives, including direct relatives who were military intelligence, so I can relate to hearing such nonsense from them.
In the US, we have a cable station called The History Channel that did a very good exposure special on them last month.
http://www.history.com
The Republicans should pound the Demoncrats with this story. Even if it is not true. Just for Ha mas to suggest the Demoncrats are discussing terms of surrender should be enough to take them well behind the woodshed.
The Multiculturalists are on their Knees begging our Enemies to please not prove their Ideology wrong. Their willful ignorance and Utopian thinking will drag us all down.
America has been accused of being a Raciest Nation. We have been torchered with guilt for our crimes by the Press and Education system for 30 years. The Indian and the Slaves.
The horrors of White supremacy.
Now isn't it Ironic that There is the possibility that some of our lofty leadership. So filled with a misguided sense of self guilt. Are prepared to sell us into permanent bondage as a price of their penance. To someone of Color no less.
"It would be nice if Hamas would name names, but since they would be doing irreparable damage to their allies in US government, they probably won't."
Not to worry, this type of frendship is rather hard to hide for very long. I am sure we will know the names very soon.
Leave it to the Democraps to make a deal with the devil...since they don't even believe he exists, and therefore don't know good from evil. What did God say about those who bless [Israel] and those who curse [Israel] anyway?? Dems, once again, are clueless and blind. Woe to this country if we should side up with the Palestinians....pitiful, pitiful movement on the part of the Democratic traitors!
as you see liberals screaming for the impeachment of President Bush today, if "facts" come out that dhimmicrats met with and made deals with hamas, ill be in the streets screaming for the resignation of those dhimmicrats!
specter , he is just another closet dhimmicrat as far as im concerned!