Iran? Syria? U.S. already talking to al-Qaida allies

Talking with the Muslim Brotherhood — a group that will use such talks only to try to gain a strategic advantage leading toward ultimate victory, not to establish peaceful coexistence between believers and unbelievers as equals. “Iran? Syria? U.S. already talking to al-Qaida allies: Bush administration negotiates with terrorists who recruited 9/11 leader Mohamed Atta,” from WorldNetDaily.com, with thanks to Rosie:

WASHINGTON — With suggestions the U.S. negotiate with Syria and Iran dominating the news, Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin reports Washington has already been talking quietly to a Syrian dissident group linked directly to the 9/11 hijackers and their sponsors in al-Qaida.

The group is the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, known for its association with al-Qaida and allied with former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

The Bush administration sought out the terrorists because of its desire for regime change in Damascus — apparently at almost any cost.

The National Security Council staff in August met twice at the White House with members of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and former Syrian Vice President Abdul-Halim Khaddam, says the report in Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter published by the founder of WND.

Together, the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and Khaddam are part of a larger opposition group, the National Salvation Front, comprised of a coalition of Syrian opposition figures in exile. The NSF is led by Khaddam. The head of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood is Ali Sadreddine al-Bayanouni.

Now, the National Salvation Front is preparing to open a Washington office which some critics claim may be nothing more than an outlet for the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood to lobby Congress and the administration, reports G2 Bulletin. Some reports suggest that the National Salvation Front already has the tacit approval of the National Security Council, whose officials met with some of the organization’s members in August.

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  1. says

    The Bush administration sought out the terrorists because of its desire for regime change in Damascus – apparently at almost any cost…

    One of the many reasons that I am a repeat “Bush basher,” is because I never trusted him or dadday Bush to be true, patriotic, Americans.

    His Democractic counterparts are no different, and I never trusted or even respected them.

    I appreciate the rabid Bush supporters, because I believe that most of them are real Americans hoping that Bush would “do the right thing.”

    Rightly, these supports will look at jerks like Kerry, Kennedy, (gawd — need I list these vermin?) et al; and passionately tell you that they are much worse! They are, in countless ways.

    Then, you hear about stuff like this going on and finally read it. You have to wonder, is this a lie? Is this true?

    If it is true — I heard this long ago but — how does a true American who really believes in what this country once stood for able to continue to steadfastly support Bush?

    Because he’s “the best” we got?

    If that’s the ONLY reason, we need to do better –MUCH, MUCH, better!

  2. says

    Bush has been weakend, and bashed enough, that l dont know if any other politician could ever work in that enviroment. l can only say this could be a misinformation, double speak among diplomats, it could be getting back as Syria’s rulling class to pay attention that”they” might lose their position. l am thinking that no sane admisistration would ever make a deal with the devil, even though the elites of the Democrat party is pushing for this.. l long for a politician to come out say what he means, no double speak, and defend the country and its citizens.

  3. says

    As long as the American Govt, Europe, Asia resists to name the enemy, which is Islam, no progress will be made by any means in any territory.

    Getting entangled with the enemy in ways as described has never led to solutions and results and never will.
    In fact it will endanger Western/Eastern civilisation to the verge of extinction.

    Now it’s not the time to be politically correct and never was.

    It can happen any time from now on, even while I’m typing this post, – WAR –

    The enemies are at the gates and partically positioned inside.

    The unfolding events of today are clear, or aren’t they?

  4. says

    l long for a politician to come out say what he means, no double speak, and defend the country and its citizens…

    Gawd, how I wish you were running for office!

    You got my vote!

  5. says

    That we are showing such incredible weakness combined with the fact that NOBODY in a leadership position anywhere in America seems to understand just who and what we are dealing with scares me more than anything in my life.

    Did we not learn anything back in the 80s, arming Iraq in their fight against Iran, only to have them turn on us?

    Did we not learn anything when we armed the Taliban and their ilk during the cold war when we were fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan by proxy, only to have them turn against us?

    And now here we are today, arming Iraq again AND teaching them exactly how to fight, showing them how WE fight, and nobody seems to think this is a bad idea because they *WILL* one day turn against us?

    Now here we are dealing with terrorists. Openly. What an amazing sign of weakness. We have capitulated.

    And NOBODY in leadership seems to get it.

  6. says

    it looks like Bush Jr. is doing his daddy’s bidding he couldn’t get second term so is becoming power behind the Oval Office we just need to remember once in the CIA always in the CIA and Bush Sr. proving it history has shown the CIA will make deals with the devil him self in a heartbeat if they think it will achieve their objective and Bush Sr. was the head of the CIA at one time, because this deal smells like something the CIA or NSA would dream up if they thought it would enhance American security.

  7. says

    If this is indeed the case then I see no difference between Bush winning the 2004 election
    and Kerry winning it. Hell, the results of the 2000 election could have been reversed since I always felt that Gore would have done virtually nothing about 9/11. Bush is rapidly becoming a lame duck disaster.

  8. says

    This is like negotiating with the Japanese after the surrender of Corregidor or the Nazis after Dunkirk. 2008 will not be here fast enough to suit me.

    Can you imagine Truman negitiating with the Commies just when it looked as if the Pusan Perimeter would collapse?

    I now agree that Bush should be Dhimmi of the Year, but on the other hand he is acting more like a Quisling or a Petain. If he has no control over the State Department, he has to go. Time’s up.

    Get out; see if we can work with the Kurds, and let the Sunnis and Shiites kill each other off. A strategic withdrawal is not “cut and run.”

  9. says

    Z. W. Princess, I would like to believe that all this talk about negotiation is diplomatic deception. If true, the only people being deceived are us. The Muslims have been at this jihad business to long to be fooled.

  10. says

    l long for a politician to come out say what he means, no double speak, and defend the country and its citizens.

    Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess

    Then look for Tom Tancredo. or Rudy Giuliani. Maybe Mitt Romney.

    I’m with Dr. Bulldog. How do we start a lobbying group in DC?

  11. says

    Old Atlantic – thanks for the head up on Reyes. “Can you talk in Spanish?” Good lord.

    Kakistocracy – it is a race to the bottom of the IQ totem pole in Washington.

  12. says

    If this proves true, it will be the last straw for me. All of what I see going on in the USA makes me sick to my stomach. The Bushes are from Texas but all Texans can count their lucky stars that none of his ancestors were at the Alamo. There would never have been an Alamo, they would have 1) opened the gates. 2) hired some of Santa Ana’s men as advisors. 3) traded Georgia for the promise that the enemy would just go away. Moreover, if we think Bush is weak, think Clinton. He is telling us what we need to do in this global struggle? A guy who when he heard he had to register for the selective service, his ***** shriveled up so much he had no problem adapting to the cold of Canada? In addition, look at the dems, they do not even know who or why we are fighting, is it still a requirement that you have a brain to serve in congress? Can anyone name any other group of American leaders that were collectively as bad as these today? They all deserve no more than a buck sixty five an hour for their service, do you think I am over paying?

  13. says

    Then look for Tom Tancredo. or Rudy Giuliani. Maybe Mitt Romney.

    well that is a good start, l prefer the first two..
    btw l saw on Fox News sunday, they had two contestants who want to run for the presidency for ’08, one Democrat and one Republican, and they both made me want to puke, they both were beholden to the
    half baked Baker report, they spoke with so much PC, that l tought they were twins!

    OT,, the washtion post blog that was about Israel being a libility to the US, is now having more people emailing more
    proIsrael, and doing a good job at educating the people.

  14. says

    ZenaWarriorPrincess,

    Bush has been weakend

    Bush has been weakened now because he exhibited weakness from right after 9/11, specifically the weakness of failing to recognize (much less name) the enemy. Far worse than the focus on Osamah Bin Laden was his retreat from his wording, “this war, this crusade” (emph. mine) on account on the protests. Not the protests of the Muslims (who can always be relied upon to protest any perceived slight against their sensitivities) but of the “rational, realistic” world, saying, “Don’t turn this into a religious war! Don’t bring us back to the Middle Ages!” Although this is and has always been a religious war, and the setup of forces toward WW3 is best learned by studying the Middle Ages rather than even WW2.

    It is one of the hallmarks of our age that the ideological view is the most pragmatic, and that “realism” is a disguise for irrational belief in basic human goodness despite what the eyes can see every day. The minds in the non-Muslim world are as yet far from ready for this great war.

  15. says

    ZionistYoungster, Bush has only recognized a part of the enemy, but this is not like horseshoes, being close is not good enough for defeating islam.
    Clinton and and his gang blamed the US and its politcies for the attacks. you have only to chose unfortuanately for only two on the ticket. hopefully next time that ticket will have an improved choice.

  16. says

    Todays politicians are a joke. They’re only good for raising money and getting re-elected. I KNOW I could do MUCH, MUCH better in making the decisions that are in the BEST interest of the U.S. and it’s CITIZENS.

  17. says

    How can you enlist the Help of someone who say’s things like this? Doesn’t anyone believe what Iran say’s anymore? :

    “”Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has warned Western leaders to follow the path of God or “vanish from the face of the earth”.
    “These oppressive countries are angry with us … a nation that on the other side of the globe has risen up and proved the shallowness of their power,” Ahmadinejad said in a speech in the northern town of Ramsar, the semi-official news agency Mehr reported Wednesday.

    “They are angry with our nation. But we tell them ‘so be it and die from this anger’. Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth,” he said.

    The outspoken president also maintained Iran’s defiance over its controversial nuclear programme, saying it was on course to fully master nuclear technology.

    “Thank to God’s help, we have gone all the way and are only one step away from the zenith.

    “We hope to have the big nuclear celebration by the end of the year (March 2007),” Ahmadinejad said, echoing comments he has made on numerous occasions in recent months.

    A defiant Iran has refused to suspend its uranium enrichment work, a process that the West fears could be extended to make nuclear weapons.

    Iran however insists its nuclear programme is solely aimed at generating energy.””

    Iran does not need to be emboldened by having the US ask for it’s help, especially in light of comments like this. it needs to get a swift kick in the Ass and a warning. asking Iran for help will double Irans influence around the Region and around the and will validate comments like these.

  18. says

    Perhaps, knowing that Al Quiada being Sunni, the administration is seeking to help prepare a real cold/hot war problem between Iran and Syria. Them battling each other for awhile might make good cover for us to do some under the table manipulations???

  19. says

    I agree that we need a strong traditional American values leader who will stand up to the Republican globalists and the Democratic socialists, and we need to find that leader fast! I agree with the comment by Doctor Bulldog that we need to start a lobby group in Washington D.C. So far the only politician I’ve seen that I can trust is Tom Tancredo.

  20. says

    let us face it, the republican party and the democratic party are controlled by internationalists. Their goal is deplete our economy and start the north american economic block.

    Talking with and dealing with iran and syria is political suicide. They want to kill everyone of us americans and jews.

  21. says

    I agree that we need a strong traditional American values leader who will stand up to the Republican globalists and the Democratic socialists, and we need to find that leader fast! I agree with the comment by Doctor Bulldog that we need to start a lobby group in Washington D.C. So far the only politician I’ve seen that I can trust is Tom Tancredo.

    Posted by: FaultlineUSA

    I’d be willing to donate funds. Not that I have a lot. But if there are more than a few willing to contribute we might could start up something.

    Who’s willing to move to D.C.?

    How is a lobbying group set up?

    Maybe all we need is enough money to spend on well-connected lawyers. And money left over to pay the politicians to become more interested in the well-baing of the people “back home”.

  22. says

    We crashed the ‘Gloat Party’ held for convicted terror lawyer Lynne Stewart last night in Manhattan.

    Ward Churchill was there among his legion of moonbats.
    Looks like we gave her a rousing off-to-jail send off.

    Full coverage and photos at my blog:
    http://urbaninfidel.blogspot.com/

    Posted by: Urban Infide

    As a fellow NYer I’d appreciate knowing about these kind of events in my area AHEAD OF TIME – not after – so I can LEND MY SUPPORT!!!

    Thanks a BIG FAT LOT!

  23. says

    germaninamerica,

    I’m so sorry, but it had to be kept a secret because we needed to surprise them.

    If you’d like to informed of upcoming events in NY, please feel free to email me at my blog. More than happy to include you in the future.

    Thanks.

  24. says

    Are you’ll against Muslims and Islam? I think you’ll have mis-understood the meaning of Jihad.

    Jihad can be against anything- Jihad against hate, Jihad against terror. I just hope one day all of us can learn to respect each other and live together in peace.

  25. says

    Is it Pres. Bush? Or is it member of congress?

    Someone wake me up when this insanity nightmare is over- this group is TIED TO TERRORISM- ARREST THEM!!! Don’t give them lobbying powers! What the heck is wrong with this country?

    I’ll tell you what- Congress is so afraid of ‘offending’ Muslims that they are coddling terrorists- but mark my words- Congress IS seriously offending Americans, and if these groups that congress is coddling to attack us- it may just be the Americans that congress need fear NOT the Muslims!

    Britain is seeing a mass exodus of their older generation as they move to other countries to retire- guess why? Yup- Muslim domination in their comunities and the fact that Britain is trying to take away the rights of citizens to defend themselves by outlawing guns.

    This is assinine! The British government is being overwhelmed with Muslim terrorism, and they want to disarm the public and assure them that they are a strong enough government to protect them?

    America is next- people trying to sue gun makers- we’re going to lose our right to protect ourselves as well & the way congress is coddling terrorists, it will be a BAD BAD deal! http://sacredscoop.com

  26. says

    Are you’ll against Muslims and Islam? I think you’ll have mis-understood the meaning of Jihad.

    Jihad can be against anything- Jihad against hate, Jihad against terror. I just hope one day all of us can learn to respect each other and live together in peace.

    Then why can’t muslims stop spreading islam through violence, terror, lies, and deception? It’s been going on for centuries and people are finally starting to notice.

    What’s your problem, muslim?

    The Enemy: islam and the muslims that spread it.
    The Solution: detention, deportation, execution.

  27. says

    We crashed the ‘Gloat Party’ held for convicted terror lawyer Lynne Stewart last night in Manhattan.

    Ward Churchill was there among his legion of moonbats.
    Looks like we gave her a rousing off-to-jail send off.

    hey Urban Infidel that was just too cool! great words for ms lynn stewart!
    and for Muslim Unity, if you care to read the introduction of this site is for “Equal rights of all people”, and islam is anti human rights for non muslims and women, so you figure it out.

  28. says

    “Are you’ll against Muslims and Islam? I think you’ll have mis-understood the meaning of Jihad.

    Jihad can be against anything- Jihad against hate, Jihad against terror. I just hope one day all of us can learn to respect each other and live together in peace.

    Posted by: Muslim Unity”

    Your problem is that we DO understand what jihad means: struggle, or better still, “Mein Kamf”.

    Seems to me most muslims DON’T understand the meaning of the word and that is why all you guys can do is kill people, and blame everyone for your problems
    http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/feewings_hurt/

    Westerners share your hopes, but most muslims do not. Nice piece of taqqiya!

  29. says

    How we all wish Bush was just a mis-informed, mis-guided, well-meaning, strong and a compassionate patriot. Unfortunately, dubya’s record is anything but. Starting from never holding a decent job ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A7372-2004Feb2?language=printer ) to getting elected in a controversial manner ( http://www.supremecourtus.gov/florida.html )in his brother’s governorship) to bringing down the nation’s borders ( http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/160506smokeandmirrors.htm) to blaming fellow but patriotic Americans ( http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/24/112450.shtml ) to blanking out pags on Saudi Arabia from 9/11 congressional report ( http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j080103.html ) to helping Bin-Ladens to safety when all commercial flights were grounded ( http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2004/03/11/unger_1/index.html ), to smoking cigars with Bandar Bush right after 9/11 ( http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0911-20.htm ) and overall ties to Bin-Ladens ( http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html ).

    Add all that up and ask yourself a question “Is Bush a part of the problem or the solution?”

  30. says

    Alert you have got to be kidding.. anyone who thinks that this prison planet blog by alex jones is anything but a nut job should join iranian president.. it is sheer lunacy.. you are kidding right. about prison plantet alex jones.. my God!

  31. says

    If you’d like to informed of upcoming events in NY, please feel free to email me at my blog. More than happy to include you in the future.

    Thanks.

    Posted by: Urban Infidel

    Will do.

  32. says

    Are you’ll against Muslims and Islam? I think you’ll have mis-understood the meaning of Jihad.

    Jihad can be against anything- Jihad against hate, Jihad against terror. I just hope one day all of us can learn to respect each other and live together in peace.

    Posted by: Muslim Unity

    Hey, I am willing to listen to that siren call of yours. Under ONE condition. You go to Mecca and hook us up some big fat cozy cribs where we can all hang and chill and live together in peace.

    And remember some of us will be uncovered pieces of meat. We expect good and equal treatment for all of us. And I plan to invite a fair amount of Jooz. Just a few Hasisdim from Borough Hall to see how serious you are.

    We can all be chillin’ with a view of the rock 😉 Just so you know.. we LIKE to listen to music 😉

    So why don’t you hook it up and let us know.

    UNTIL THEN – GOODBYE TROLL!!!!!!

    Isn’ it FUNNY. they always want to “live in peace” with us IN OUR LANDS!! Then they start froming bridgeheads.. taxpayer funded apartheid swimming.. in ENGLAND and in SEATTLE!! They rape and murder our women. THAT is NOT what I call “living together in peace”.

    Show me ONE islamic country where “infidel” and Christian, Hindu and Jew all live together in peace among the moslems. ONE!! Just ONE. Show me!! OR SHUT UP!!!

  33. says

    Jihad can be against anything- Jihad against hate, Jihad against terror. I just hope one day all of us can learn to respect each other and live together in peace.

    Posted by: Muslim Unity”

    Did I just see: JIHAD ON TERROR??!!!

    Are you out of your taqiyya-addled mind? This guy is Goebbels squared.

    Well, you got me now MU.. I finally found a Jihad I’d like to JOIN!

  34. says

    Clinton and and his gang blamed the US and its politcies for the attacks. you have only to chose unfortuanately for only two on the ticket. hopefully next time that ticket will have an improved choice.

    Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess

    I join you in that prayer Zena.

  35. says

    Todays politicians are a joke. They’re only good for raising money and getting re-elected. I KNOW I could do MUCH, MUCH better in making the decisions that are in the BEST interest of the U.S. and it’s CITIZENS.

    Posted by: NC_patriot

    Strange how relatively easy it seems to most of us on here what needs to be done. Does anyone think our “leaders” are dumber than we are? Some of them but surely not all of them.

    Therefore.. they KNOW better. They are doing what they do AGAINST better knowledge and therefore they are derelict of their Oath of Office. “I solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution.. […] Keep the American People from Harm..

    Hmmmm…

  36. says

    Making alliances with factions of the enemy is an acceptable, even desirable, tactic. Knowing the people on our (the West’s) side, however, these are not adept enough to try such tactics. Rather it is G. W. Bush now under the control of such as James Baker, who, one suspects, is receiving instructions from the Saudis.

  37. says

    The Alert links are interesting. One didn’t work, the Alex Jones one that was taken exception to by Zena Warrior Princess.


    inexact alternative for non-working link

    (I am not saying I agree with or don’t agree with any theory of Bush’s behavior above or otherwise, this is just an interesting link I found in trying to find the link given.)

    The minimal explanation of why Bush would want to avoid investigating the Saudis or Pakistan or publishing what was uncovered would be that this would lead back to the 2001 August 6 PDB warning Bush that bin Laden was determined to attack in the US.

    That PDB was not an issue for the public until years later. So in 2001, if Bush had allowed a full investigation of 9-11, it would have likely resulted in the leaking of the existence of this memo. Bush may have wanted that to come after the 2004 election.

    This is not meant to contradict other theories or explain other acts or omissions, it is just a minimal hypothesis to explain Bush’s opposition to investigations or disclosures.

  38. says

    I just skimmed over that NYT-sounding piece that Nariz is peddling us. Checked the link and BINGO:

    The author’s bio reveals:

    Christian Parenti is a correspondent for The Nation and author of “The Freedom: Shadows and Hallucinations in Occupied Iraq” (New Press, 2004). He received a PhD in sociology from the London School of Economics in 2000 and he has been a Soros Senior Justice Fellow and a Ford Foundation Fellow at the CUNY Graduate School’s Center for Place, Culture, and Politics.

    Works for THE NATION
    Funding from GEORGE SOROS

    Nariz you really shouldn’t reveal those kind of sources to us:-) It violates our sense of “peceptivity”. You’re doing your very best to undermine all of your points.

  39. says

    Urban, good work at the Lynn Stewart thing. People, everyone must have a look at those photos. These are the lowest, most vile, most disgusting creatures in this country. Radical leftists. Just look at them. Look at their faces, their attire, their grooming, and that doesn’t even begin to address their personal hygiene or what comes out of their mouth or what they believe. Truly a vile group of social malcontents dedicated to the destruction of the United States.

    Urban, you went right into the snake pit. Forget about their horrendous political views, you wouldn’t want those people babysitting your kids. Or sitting next to you on a bus. You definately would not want to eat your lunch with them. These monsters of the Left are so grotesque inside, and out, that their mere existence as free individuals to roam as they please is both frightening and and indictment of how scary this nation has become.

    You wouldn’t run into a more ugly and anti-social group of human beings if you had approached the thugs at the door of John Gotti’s social club on Mayberry Street in the late ’80s.

  40. says

    re Nariz’s “Afghan Autopsy:”

    The lesson to be learned from this (and the Iraq entanglement) is that is best to hit the enemy hard, destroy what must be destroyed, and let the enemy expend their energies in factional fighting.

    Instead of occupation and reconstruction, stay outside, vigilant, ready to strike with overwhelming force when needed.

  41. says

    There was much hope set on Blair, but at home he is an absolute disaster.

    HIJABS AND PRAYER MATS ISSUED TO UK PRIMARY SCHOOLS

    LONDON, Dec.9:

    A guide to Islam is being given to primary schools across Britain containing a headscarf, a prayer mat, a prayer cap, sacred Ihram clothing worn during the pilgrimage to Makkah, a poster of the Muslim prophets and a compass to locate the direction of Makkah.

    According to Daily Express the teaching resource, provided by the Muslim Council of Britain, is intended to provide children aged seven and 11 with information about true Islamic beliefs.

    http://uppompeii.blogspot.com/

  42. says

    you are kidding right. about prison plantet alex jones.. my God!

    Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at December 10, 2006 04:12 PM

    OK, Zena, I know many look at Bush either on party lines.. like are Democrats any better? or on opposition lines…. what good were John Kerry or Al Gore? But that is a faulty line of thought leading to a faulty answer, for which, America, present and future, pays the price. But coming back to the same question, take prisonplanet.com away. Does the answer change? Thank you.

  43. says

    oh my how am l surprised that Nariz is trolling with information from George Soros, one of the most self hating Jews. yeah l see what side he is on, part of the left that hates all things good about the America and the West. Nariz should join with Soros and have a good get together with hammas and the hez boys.
    Aganistan is not lost, and there are many people who want to be able to school their daughters and sons without their teachers losing their heads. Nariz you dwell in all things disgusting when you quote some hack from the Soros camp.

  44. says

    Hello Friends,
    I call you friends as well all share common concerns.
    As for waiting/wishing for an honest straightshooting, tough talking leader – forget that notion. He (or She – no, not those two) would be swallowed up by the neccesary “connections” as to be ineffectual or nuetered.
    Many of you may live in urban areas and you are the ones I pray most for – that if serious attacks occur (when, not if) then we all would need to be self sufficient, or at a minimum having a seriously degraded life style.
    I feel lucky living in a truly rural area where “canning” is still a seasonal activity. Hunting also helps to add to the larder. We are blessed having well water and the ability to generate electricity. Staples (dry goods, canned fruits and veggies for about 2 – 3 years, etc. and so on. Of course those supplies will dwindle but yet again our circumstances allow enough land to grow supplies. Now, don’t get me wrong this is NOT a scenario I want/wish for.
    Now, my wife, bless her, is smarter than me, she says to me, Honey if a nuke comes toward us, I will run outside welcoming Jesus. Your plans to survive might be problematic given the hordes of survivors that would radiate out from urban/surburban areas.
    Strong leaders, heck they may be out there but the MSM and lefties would bury their efforts under a ton of multicultural/PC junk. I know there are like minded JW/DW members who do not share my worldview (conservative Christian) but my suggestion to you’all, is to have a plan other than your 9-5 life.
    Faith must be acquired, religious or other of your choosing.
    I’ve run on long enough, and we live in VERY interesting times. May God bless you and keep you.
    Warm regards,
    Happy in the Sticks….
    PS. I truly enjoy your postings – all are good, except the trolls (here locally we call them targets!).

  45. says

    Anybody who gives any credence to Alex Jones is as dumb as a box of rocks.

    I found Jones on shortwave back when Iraq was invaded. Here are a few tidbits from his show:

    1. The CIA was going to release sarin gas on our troops to justify the invasion.

    2. Jones interviewed an fellow lunatic who claimed that he entered Iraq secretly and placed the gas bombs himself.

    3. In ’03 Jones stated that Bush was going to enact confiscatory gun laws.

    4. Jones stated that FEMA had already built evacuation camps where we were to be imprisoned in case on an emergency.

    5. Not only does he say that the WTC attack was a CIA op, but the planes were flown by remote control.

    Alex Jones is a psychopath or an idiot. I’ll repeat it; once more for emphasis, if anybody believes anything Alex Jones says, they deserve a straight jacket.

  46. says

    I did leave out part about Jones having a radio show that is now on AM. It is on during the noon hour Eastern Time.

    One more thing, he keeps ranting about “The New World Order” He is not talking about Islam either.

  47. says

    Alert you have got to be kidding.. anyone who thinks that this prison planet blog by alex jones is anything but a nut job should join iranian president.. it is sheer lunacy.. you are kidding right. about prison plantet alex jones.. my God!

    Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrin

    He used ONE link from prisonplanet [which i agree is a nut bag site] but how can you jump on his when he used a wide variety of sources! Including this one from NEWSMAX:

    Bush Calls Border Watchers ‘Vigilantes’
    NewsMax.com Wires
    Thursday, March 24, 2005
    WACO, Texas “- President Bush said yesterday that he opposes a citizens’ effort to help Border Patrol agents monitor illegal aliens crossing the border.

    The president called the volunteers who have joined the effort “vigilantes.”
    Story Continues Below

    Speaking at a press conference alongside Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin, the president said: “I’m against vigilantes in the United States of America. I’m for enforcing the law in a rational way.”

    Sorry, Zena.. your defense of this traitor is becomin irrational in face of the MOUNTING evidence!! There is a very LOUD choir here singing Bush’s Dhimmi sellout “praises”. Are all of us a bunch of commie LiEberals?? I don’t THINK so!

    BUSH is the problem – NOT US!!!!

    The things that people will do for money.. I still find it shocking.

  48. says

    The Left might want to BACK OFF on impeaching Bush.. I for one am DYING to see him removed. UNFIT FOR OFFICE!!!

    SCREW Bush & Baker!!! Hey, SOWdis.. this is your LAST CHANCE!!!
    We’re about to elect a REAL PRESIDENT!!!!

    USA 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  49. says

    Germaninamerica save your energy and hatred on the enemy. as l have stated before l NO NOT agree withBush on many things, such as immigration, spending, and border control. if you lived most of your life under liberal rule you would appreciate Bush a bit more. l mean get over this Bush thing, your BP going to skyrocket. look Clinton was worse.
    put your energy into getting some better to vote for in twoy years time.
    ps.. l just read about this talking with terrorist broke down a while ago, according tothe terrorists. does these people ever get their sources from more reliable places?

  50. says

    germaninamerica, when the Dems get in control, they will want to scrape the surveillance of phone calls from outside the country coming into the US ie al queda people calling their fellow islamofacists in the US. Will you back Bush on this? the Demicrats will prol push for no profiling of muslims, ie the immans on USAir, will you back the Dems on this? so on sercurity Bush is better than the Demicrats on this.
    you got to find that silver lining somee where lol

  51. says

    you American right wingers really are a bit rabid in your dislike of Liberals. They are not the enemy…further, if you want to build a consensus by moving the American population towards an anti-Jihad platform…you’re not going to do it by describing Liberals as traitors. So, keep on bashing everyone who’s left of Pinochet, I’d rather focus on bringing the left and right (anti-Jihadists) together to fight the real enemy, rather than complain that this or that Presidential candidate is selling America out. If (as Robert and Hugh promote), this site is designed to push anti-Jihad awareness amongst the populous, the focus should be on pushing knowledge, rather than angry left-bashing.

  52. says

    protectalbion~ when the likes of nariz / giour comes along and claims:

    any Christians posting here are suffering from a neurological disorder;

    that he is ‘mentally, physically and morally superior’ to other posters here, especially Christians;

    who equates Christians of any and ALL stripes with islamofascists;

    sees absolutely NO fault among his own and ALL faults among the ‘right’ and Christians especially;

    Then Hell Yes, we’re going to respond negatively.

    I would especially re-read the second line I mentioned from him, PA. The day I read that, I could see a large, smoking chimney rising behind nariz.

    And this is the kind of person the rest of the world is supposed to work with towards the future?

  53. says

    protectalbion, l would truly admire a real liberal if they could see how islam denies equal right to non muslims and women, instead these so called “libeala” want to give more rights to muslims in our lands, and allow them to “get away” with what happened to the “flying immans”.. ACLU is run amok, and liberal ideal gone off the looney left. The liberal of the early 1900’0 would be not recognize the liberals of today.

  54. says

    December 10, 2006
    Iran? Syria? U.S. already talking to al-Qaida allies

    Did Chamberlain talk to the Nazis??

    Do I smell appeasement??

    Is the shame of surrender on the horizon??

    Al-Qaeda is generally SUNNI, so too, is our recently elected official Keith Ellison.

    Is the enemy now on the inside??

    Forced Islamic studies in our schools while Christian studies are tossed out??

    I think the world is turning in an ugly way!!

  55. says

    you’re not going to do it by describing Liberals as traitors. So, keep on bashing everyone who’s left of Pinochet, I’d rather focus on bringing the left and right (anti-Jihadists) together to fight the real enemy, rather than complain that this or that Presidential candidate is selling America out. If (as Robert and Hugh promote), this site is designed to push anti-Jihad awareness amongst the populous, the focus should be on pushing knowledge, rather than angry left-bashing.

    Posted by: protectalbion at December 11, 2006 05:52 AM

    .. oh, so this site is suppose to appease the enemy-collaborators, because that is what leftists are. The time to bringing left and right togather was upto on 9/11. If left still needs cajooling, they are, a part of the problem. It is time left took some responsibility for their thoughts, strategies and finally, actions.

  56. says

    THIS is a most excellant article I read. I would like to share it with those who did not see it.

    Liberal media allergic to American values
    By Michelle Malkin
    Wednesday, October 11, 2006

    CNN founder Ted Turner opened his mouth this week at the National Press Club, and promptly demonstrated why America needs Fox News Channel now more than ever.

    Three years after the invasion of Iraq, Turner is still pouting about public displays of patriotism on American airwaves: “I mean, I just really wonder during the, during the last war, you know, what business did it have in the news sets to have the American flag flying in the background. Uh, I mean, it was like the news media covered the Iraq war, at least at the beginning of it, almost as like it was a football game with us versus them.”

    Media mogul Ted Turner speaks at the National Press Club luncheon in Washington October 9, 2006. REUTERS/Larry Downing (UNITED STATES)
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    Funny, I can’t recall Turner getting his undergarments in a bunch when CNN chose Saddam Hussein’s side and former CNN executive Eason Jordan admitted the global news network had withheld reporting on Baathist atrocities in exchange for inside access and protection of its Baghdad staff. Recall Jordan’s confession published in The New York Times after America toppled Saddam’s regime in April 2003:

    “I came to know several Iraqi officials well enough that they confided in me that Saddam Hussein was a maniac who had to be removed. One Foreign Ministry officer told me of a colleague who, finding out his brother had been executed by the regime, was forced, as a test of loyalty, to write a letter of congratulations on the act to Saddam Hussein. An aide to Uday once told me why he had no front teeth: henchmen had ripped them out with pliers and told him never to wear dentures, so he would always remember the price to be paid for upsetting his boss. Again, we could not broadcast anything these men said to us.”

    It’s fine and dandy for CNN to wave Saddam’s flag and carry his blood-stained water. But when Fox News sticks a two-postage-stamp-sized American flag on its screen? Only then will Ted Turner declare that journalism and reportorial objectivity have gone to hell.

    But Turner’s disdain for putting American citizenship above “citizen-of-the-world” preening isn’t peculiar. It’s the prevailing attitude in our newsrooms. Remember after the September 11 attacks when Stacey Woelfel, news director at KOMU-TV in Columbia, Mo., directed his staff to “leave the ribbons at home” in order to show viewers “that in no way are we influenced by the government in informing the public”? Or how about when ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider told The Washington Post: “Especially in a time of national crisis, the most patriotic thing journalists can do is to remain as objective as possible. . . . [W]e cannot signal how we feel about a cause, even a justified and just cause, through some sort of outward symbol.”

    Elite news editors shrug at their reporters’ highly politicized activities — from AIDS fund-raisers to pro-abortion rallies, environmental propaganda and unhinged Bush-bashing (new case in point: New York Times reporter Linda Greenhouse’s recent moonbatty screed at Harvard University assailing everything from Gitmo to the Mexican-U.S. border fence). But wear a flag pin? Heresy!

    When The New York Times blabs classified information about terrorism investigations and is reported to have tipped off FBI investigations of terror charity front groups, ethics mavens yawn. But when Fox News anchor Chris Wallace dares to broach President Clinton’s war on terror failures, the mainstream media caterwauling crescendos. When Wallace is derided as a “monkey” for doing his job and Fox News head Roger Ailes’ weight is mocked, the civility police in our journalism schools shut their eyes and ears.

    When insipid New York Times columnists recycle mediocre columns into their umpteenth books, they score multiple book reviews and fawning magazine covers. When the No. 1 cable talk show host tops the best-seller list (again), crickets chirp. Bill O’Reilly’s latest book, “Culture Warrior,” is as much O’Reilly’s story of success as it is Fox News Channel’s. O’Reilly’s fight against America-snubbing “secular progressives” is also Roger Ailes’. When The New York Times disparaged O’Reilly’s war on the war on Christmas as a manufactured hoax, it was disparaging Fox News Channel’s decision to listen to its audience — and respond.

    The liberal media’s 10-year allergic reaction to Fox News is triggered by any remotely positive exposure to American values on American airwaves. Well, here’s to the next 10 years of giving establishment journalism the hives. Keep Old Glory flying high. It’s driving Ted Turner mad.

  57. says

    GIA said:

    “Well, you got me now MU.. I finally found a Jihad I’d like to JOIN!”

    Yes, a Jihad against Islam would be outstanding. May all of the sane-minded peoples of the world take up arms and voices against the evil that is Islam!

    Who will declare this to be so?