PA official: Hamas "not even good liars anymore"

Elections? Witchcraft?

They are superstitious about both. lol

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Robert-

It's like saying they are not beating their wife anymore to say they are not good liars anymore.

Dahlan is communicating something of interest, though. He is partly saying that Hamas fanatics do not understand human nature and will pay the ultimate price for that sooner or later. It's like Savonarola's "bonfire of the vanities" where he required (mostly women) to to prove their purity by burning their cosmetics and other human "vanities". Eventually folks in Florence (men and women) burned Savonarola in a "bonfire of the vanities".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Savonarola.jpg

Hamas is pure evil. This can only be understood when you are on the ground in Palestine to see the horrific ROLE MODEL OF THE SUICIDE BOMBER TAUGHT TO PRESCHOOLERS, the dehumanization of Jews and other infidels and worse - it is worse than Nazism. But do CNN or the BBC care?

While they dehumanize us we humanize them.

Hamas is pure evil. This can only be understood when you are on the ground in Palestine to see the horrific ROLE MODEL OF THE SUICIDE BOMBER TAUGHT TO PRESCHOOLERS, the dehumanization of Jews and other infidels and worse - it is worse than Nazism. But do CNN or the BBC care?

While they dehumanize us we humanize them.

lol

Nothing like the pot calling the kettle black, eh?
Hey,let them fight amongst themselves...themore they kill of each other, the less that invade US.

I knew a palestinian refugee in the UAE. His family was part of the Fatah political faction and his whole family except him had been used by Hamas as human shields against the Israelis in revenge for some political bickering between Hamas fighters and Fatah activists.
He not surprisingly hated Hamas, and it was in fact this hatred of Hamas that has made him the first irreligious member of his familty - he does not fast during ramadan and never prays. He was greatly interested in reading a few books on Buddhism, which I procured for him from India;
I don't really know if he's still a Muslim or not - what I know for sure is he will never become or support suicide bombers or Jihad.

Interesting how it takes the death of your loved ones to see some light.

The 'palestinian' cesspool is a throwback to paleozoic era, where the baddest asses at the top of the food chain reigned supreme. Unfortunately for dahlan, it looks like 'abu mazen's' boys are no longer the baddest bullies in the schoolyard.

That brings up yet another point the islamofascists conveniently avoid letting the western world in on...

...the palestinians are considered by their own arab bretheren the "ghetto of the middle east", which is why, when confronted, they don't like to take them inthemselves...the palestinians tend to amass, and end up trying to take over everywhere they're at...cases-in-point, Jordan & Lebanon.
The rest of the arab world just consider it "killing two bird with one stone" when screaming about the eeeeeeevil state of Israel, as well as the "poor put upon palestinians". That way they feel they can contribute to the destruction of the "jewish state" and get the palestinians back towhere theycame from at the same time.

But getting the rest of the mOslem world to admit it in public is harder than getting your teeth drilled without anesthetic. Bank on it, though.
It's the truth, especially iran...none of them have ANY room to lecture about the palestinians,let alone anything else.

chinubhai11-

Aristotle noted that all human compassion was rooted in a personal identification with a victim of some wrong or suffering. This belief-system dehumanizes unbelievers and gives the green light to deceive, exploit and even kill them. As Waffa Sultan has pointed out, they have no recognition of the humanity of "the other". They shift all responsibility for their behavior to "the other" too. The belief-system has many of the symptoms of mental illness, but its costumes and rituals scam "the other" and fool belief-system adherents so few see reality re this belief-system. Treating beliefs as if they are scientific fact is mental illness.

Eventually, people are going to see reality on this, laugh at the costumes and the rituals that support the belief-system, and will mean business when they tell belief-system adherents that any threats or incitements to violence will result in them being put in mental hospitals. It's going to happen someday-they will be put in Psychiatric Hospitals. It may start in Holland. It will start someplace.

Thanks to websites like jw , people are learning to understand what Muslims are actually saying when they speak in the Flowery language of Islam.

Then again , the constant piles of body parts attributable to Muslims speaks volumes too.

What's almost fascinating about the cult of death
is how it takes the worst aspects of life-killing, raping, lying, stealing, bigotry-and elevates them as virtues to be cherished. Mo, the personification of all these things, would be quite pleased at how his minions have aped him so well.

Well, think about it...

They deliberately make their followers lives so miserable living in a s!@#$%^&*thole of a world, so desolate and pessimistic (while blaming the infidels for it) that they'd consider anything, including homicide bombing, a way out...and with "72 virgins" scam, it really dos sound like a heaven (compared to the hellhole they're already in).

"It seems that some of the Hamas spokesmen are not even good liars anymore."
- from a statement by Mohammad Dahlan of Fatah

Actually, the Hamas spokesman are much more likely to tell the truth about their intentions and real views than are the spokesmen of Fatah and the PLO. Supporters of the Fast Jihad see no reason to lie about their intentions toward Israel; they want to destroy it, and are chagrinned that anyone expects them to hide that, even when talking about a hudna. Mahmoud Abbas and Dahlan and the other Slow Jihadists must, of course, lie, and lie, and lie, because they are attempting to get the West to turn back on the spigot of Jizyah, and to keep that spigot on, and in order to do that, and to put the Israelis in a mode or mood to return to making absurd concessions, as they have throughout their history, they need to lie. The lies are transparent, but at least they give it, so they think, the old college try.

Now that's a point worth emphasising...

Hamas IS honest about their intentions, conquering from without.

Fatah simply wants to conguer from within (hence, that "right of return" scam,which was the ONLY thing preventing a treaty in 2000, which arafat balked on when denied that scam request)...after all, if you can't GET them out, you simply BREED them out, gain the majority, and vote for dissolution of the state of Israel that way.

Either case, they're not fooling anyone...save the politically correct fools of course.

PS- and yes, my spelling is fine...just a typo king here on a small laptop vs my desktop...sheesh, lol

"Actually, the Hamas spokesman are much more likely to tell the truth about their intentions and real views than are the spokesmen of Fatah and the PLO." ....... from Hugh's post

Exactly why I prefer hamas to fatah. hamas and ahmadinejad make the Israeli penchant for self-delusion and endless negotiation a tougher game. Sometimes you gotta smack 'em upside the head with a 2x4.

True.

I think the idea was to simply humor the chamberlain-esques, knowing that the militancy will shine forth and render it moot.
Problem is, those same peacenik pahblum pimps keep trying to push for futility...while many allied with them are simply along for the ride and have no intentioin of it working anyway, since they're bent on the destruction of Israel.

Either way, the 2x4 works every time.
Our own *ahem* leaders here in the US could use it...about once a day.

the one virtuous aspect of hammas is that they are honest in telling the world,that they want to destroy Israel and kill all non muslims. l hope that net over them gets smaller, and they keep killing each other until they realize there are no more muslims left in their cesspoolstan. thereby people who belong to the Human race can start living in peace with their neighbours.

This witchcraft should stop, because it does not frighten anyone and does not change anything.

The truth about Islam is finally coming to light. Since allah was the old canaanite moon god, the canaanites were actually worshiping demons.

Allah is Satan and Mohammed is his messenger.

This is good news becuase he used the word witchcraft. The fact is the muslims are not all "true and faithful" and that is what we need to hang our hat on. Our goal should be to tempt them away from this madness. The trouble with Bush and his plan was a call for more faith based stuff which is fine for chrisitians but for muslims that is the worst thing you can do. Islam is a disfuntional religion at its core but how many people who call themselves muslims are really muslims? They are the ones who can maybe reform this silly religion or just get rid of it.

In the end Islam has one major flaw in that it goes against human nature. The christian church changed after the enlightenment and evolved to deal with the new truths...(like no more burning witches etc.). The same has to happen to Islam or it will go the way of Mount Olympus and Zeus.

Thats why Pakistan stuck a knife in Mr. Spencers book. Everything in it was from Muslim sources and religious texts and yet it was not allowed. The reason is most muslims are uneducated and the muslim powers that be want to control the information on what the Koran means. Only after someone has reached a certain level of indoctrination are they then allowed to see the rest. Once someone is like that they will do anything.

It appears a lot of fatah people as criminal as they are kind of like this world and are not sure about the wild orgy and virgins in heaven...

Thay are not true muslims. Criminals yes...but followers of the ROP....only half hearted.

They liek the booze and playboy too much.

Thats why Pakistan stuck a knife in Mr. Spencers book. Everything in it was from Muslim sources and religious texts and yet it was not allowed. The reason is most muslims are uneducated and the muslim powers that be want to control the information on what the Koran means. Only after someone has reached a certain level of indoctrination are they then allowed to see the rest. Once someone is like that they will do anything.

It appears a lot of fatah people as criminal as they are kind of like this world and are not sure about the wild orgy and virgins in heaven...

Thay are not true muslims. Criminals yes...but followers of the ROP....only half hearted.

They like the booze and playboy pinups too much.

I disagree. muslims including hamas are the best liars ever. Oops, I forgot about Bill Clinton--well, they are in his league.

BTW--for you golfers, I highly recommend the Bill Clinton golf ball--it gives you a guranteed good lie every time.

>>> Dahlan also mocks the Hamas contention that they are the pure ones, the executors of the will of Allah.

Over at Palestinian Media Watch, Fatah is also complaining that Al-Jazeerah is biased toward Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

But of course, the Hamas are liars par excellence. Why should they not engage in tequiya, whether it's utilized in dealings with non-Muslim infidels, or not-Muslim-enough infidels like Fatah.

Haniyeh has used the economic sanctions deployed by the west against the Hamas-led PA to enormous success. Dollars to doughnuts that the PA civil servants who aren't getting paid are Fatah loyalists. They're still receiving money from some EU countries via back channels, and they are working both sides of the Shia-Sunni divide to raise money for the starving masses to the point that they are netting more money than if there were no sanctions, and applying most of the money to supporting their own militias, building more tunnels under Gaza and buying more arms.

No wonder Mohammed Dahlan is crying the blues to anyone who will listen. Fatah's chance of resuming total control over the money are not looking that good.

When the truth shines all flasehood tumbles like dominos! there are some whys and what fors that need to be ansewred in this article!

Palestinian journalist: 'Refugees' were ordered to leave by Arab leaders
By israelinsider staff December 20, 2006




Arab residents of Palestine in 1948 were not expelled by Israeli officials or military forces, as many claim, but were actually ordered to leave by local Arab leaders, says Palestinian journalist Mahmud Al-Habbash who writes for the official Palestinian Authority newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida.

Al-Habbash writes in his column, "The Pulse of Life," that Arab residents were explicitly instructed by their local Arab leaders to leave their homes when the 'Catastrophe' (the establishment of the State of Israel) occurred in 1948.

While creating a false but effective political problem for Israel, the Arabs leaders' instructions for residents to leave their homes has bred internal resentment and anger.

Says Al-Habbash: "...The leaders and the elites promised us at the beginning of the 'Catastrophe' in 1948, that the duration of the exile will not be long, and that it will not last more than a few days or months, and afterwards the refugees will return to their homes, which most of them did not leave only until they put their trust in those 'Arkuvian' [false] promises made by the leaders and the political elites. Afterwards, days passed, months, years and decades, and the promises were lost with the strain of the succession of events..."

Other Palestinians have noted that the local Arab leaders used tactics of intimidation and public scorn to motivate residents to leave.

A caller on a Palestinian Authority television program on April 30, 1999 told the program's host and his guest, an Arab member of Israel's Knesset, Ibrahim Sarsur, that the oral history of the events, including the policy of the Arab leadership to threaten treason if residents did not flee, had been passed down by his grandfather and father.

"Mr. Ibrahim [Sarsur], I address you as a Muslim," said the program's caller who did not identify himself by name. "My father and grandfather told me that during the 'Catastrophe' our district officer issued an order that whoever stays in Palestine and in Majdel [near Ashkelon -- Southern Israel] is a traitor, he is a traitor."

The Arab Knesset member did not refute the claim but said only that, "The one who gave the order forbidding them to stay there bears guilt for this, in this life and the Afterlife throughout history until Resurrection Day."

Today, the official Palestinian historical narrative vigorously claims that Arab residents were forced to leave by Israeli forces. Much of the justification behind Palestinian terror organizations resides in the claim that Arab residents were forced to leave, and so have legal refugee status and a legitimate claim to the right of return.

Claims to the contrary -- especially coming from within the Palestinian establishment -- could prove damaging to the Palestinian refugee status and demands for right of return since, according to international law, if Palestinians left by their own will or under orders from their own leaders they would not necessarily qualify for refugee status.

Palestinian refugee status is a hotly contested issue. The main UN refugee organization, the United Nations High Commission for Human Rights (UNHCR), which has successfully aided millions of refugees to return to a relatively normal life, does not service the Palestinian refugee population.

For unknown reasons, the UN established a separate refugee organization, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), devoted solely to Palestinians -- something not done for any other refugee population in the world.

The special service, it seems, comes with benefits: whereas all other world refugees under the UN see $64 spent annually per refugee, the Palestinians benefit from $99 spent per refugee. There is no public justification for this disparity between the treatment of world refugees and Palestinians.

Additionally, Palestinians are guaranteed by UNRWA healthcare and primary education, also something not done for any other refugee population in the world.

"I'm wondering why the UN finds the Palestinians to be so much more special than the other millions of refugees in the world," asks one Middle East blogger. "It's not about who the refugees are," retorted a reader in a response comment, "it's about which state they came from."

Palestinian Media Watch contributed to this article.

Have you seen any truth out of Islam recently, why would you expect Hamas to be anything less ? Remember, smiling faces tell lies; they don't tell the truth.