Poor Islamic rapists. Will the Islamophobia never end? "Pakistani Islamists protest as new rape law signed," from Reuters, with thanks to Clamper:
ISLAMABAD, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Religious party activists held small protests on Friday in several cities around Pakistan as President Pervez Musharraf signed into law a bill curtailing the scope of Islamic laws on rape.Islamist opposition lawmakers have threatened to resign from parliament over the issue, but protests held after the National Assembly passed the Women's Protection Bill earlier this month have failed to generate much public support.
The passage of the bill was seen as a test of Musharraf's commitment to his vision of "enlightened moderation", and a major battle in a long struggle between progressives and religious conservatives to set the course for this mainly Muslim nation.
"The bill was sent to the president by the prime minister yesterday, which he signed and returned today," Information Minister Mohammad Ali Durrani told Reuters.
Hundreds of supporters of the Islamist parties chanted anti-Musharraf slogans at a demonstration in Rawalpindi, the city next door to Islamabad, and demanded that the government scrap the bill, and there were smaller rallies in other cities after Friday prayers.
The act takes the crime of rape out of the sphere of the religious laws, known as the Hudood Ordinances, and puts it under the penal code.
Under the Hudood Ordinances, which were introduced by a military ruler in 1979, a rape victim had to produce four male witnesses to prove the crime, or face the possibility of prosecution for adultery.
The change does away with that requirement and will allow convictions to be made on the basis of forensic and circumstantial evidence.
An Islamist opposition leader said it would turn conservative Pakistan into a "free sex zone".
Nice to see a member of the ummah take a tiny step into the 21st century once in a while. Too bad that occurs with the frequency of Halley's Comet.
If I were Mushy Raff I'd start worrying about a coup or a hit now.
Keep leaning on Musharaff, President Bush.
An Islamist opposition leader said it would turn conservative Pakistan into a "free sex zone".
What he would like to see is a "sex-free zone"
OT, but this is the height of chutzpah. In Germany, some santa clause dolls with one arm up in the air waving hello, were taken off the shelves and destroyed because some people, no doubt leftists, complained that it was too similiar to the nazi salute.
If that is not political correctness gone into orbit, then what is it? In Germany, political correctness is the new nazism.
Ze fuhrer has determined zat theze dohls are gifing ze nazi zalute. Zey must be deztroyed. Schnell!
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/01/germany.santas.reut/index.html
"An Islamist opposition leader said it would turn conservative Pakistan into a "free sex zone".
It will be idiots like this who will finally ban all women from a Muslim nation. They'll just go and kidnap boys from outside their borders to keep the population going. At least then these crackpots won't have to torment themselves with the messy issue of woman control. My guess is that either a Taliban run Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia will be the first to banish all women. I know it sounds completely insane and yet coming from the world of Islam it would make perfect sense.
I would lawmakers and hardliners in Pakistan what the real objection to do rape laws are or could be some of them involved in rapes in the past and that is why they do not laws changed
Off topic, but dhimmi relevant.
Pope Hailed for praying towards Mecca like Muslims
But he isn't the only Dhimmi, seems that Cheney was Summoned to Saudi Arabia to get his Marching Orders from the House of Saud
And the morons of Jihad Watch, the morons of LGF and FR blame all of our woes on the "liberals" and lefties"...LOL.
...but how many witnesses to it`s rape does a goat
need to get a conviction ?
An Islamist opposition leader said it would turn conservative Pakistan into a "free sex zone".
Why? When rape is legal that's a "free sex zone" for the Pakoranimals isn't it?
Their logic is simply amazing.
BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A German chain of shops has removed miniature wooden Santa Claus figures from its shelves and destroyed them after customers complained it looked like they were giving the stiff-armed Hitler salute that is outlawed.
I wonder if these were islamic customers.
But he isn't the only Dhimmi, seems that Cheney was Summoned to Saudi Arabia to get his Marching Orders from the House of Saud
And the morons of Jihad Watch, the morons of LGF and FR blame all of our woes on the "liberals" and lefties"...LOL.
Posted by: Nariz
You're confusing us with Bush Limpballs and Sean Vanitycase. I speak for noone but myself. I ams sure there'll be other to jump down your throat for you stupid accusations.
I have ALWAYS said that we are being SOLD DOWN THE RIVER by an unholy alliance of money-grubbing neocons and the PC Left.
liEberals and LIefties are a major part of the problem though. We CAN take over the Republican Party and influence it from within. No way you can do that in the Dhimmicrat Party.
Piglet to the rescue! Oink Oink!
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=4808968
it would be interesting see just how may of hard-liners have been involved in rape may be that's why they're screaming so hard about the rape laws having four Muslim males in the witnesses to prove a rape is plain stupid, just as charging a woman with adultery or unmarried sex and she then raped is stupid I was still ask what were for Muslim males doing when a woman is being raped and wire they not been a crap of the rapist, I think if four infidel males saw a woman being raped the rapist but cops got there would have be taken to the hospital for multiple contusions and crushed nutsunfortunately Muslims believe rape is a woman's fault just look at a gang rapes that had recently in Australia there committed by young man from Pakistan along with his buddies also from their, they were convicted and sentenced to 99 years as the police were taking them awaytheir families started a riot in the courtroom crying they were innocent and was all the girls fault for dressing indecently and luring the man on. And the girls were asking for it, incidentally the girls were in light dresses or blouses and slacks or blue jeans . To the rapists families this is considered a dressing indecently and asking were. The reason I mention this along with commenting on the hard-liners opposition to the far more modern rape laws there now law in Pakistan their opposition just shows how far Islamic countries after go from being tribal societies to join a 21st-century were women have rights and when those rights even for a wife is to be able to say no even to her husband and you try to force your way with her you can be charged with a rate. though seeing as my wifes ancestry is one fourth Scottish one fouth German one quarter Jewish and the rest is Cherokee I wouldn't dare try to force her to have sex I will put his way on her wedding day I woke up she had part of my anatomy in one hand and a very large knife in the other and inform me were getting married today or your going to be a eunuch my reply was yes dear and we got married that afternoon. So there is no way I would try what these Pakistanis are protesting against, and seeing how a man to rape his wife could that be another reason they're protesting these laws I imagine most of them are married a more likely and insisted their wives submit to them when they're wives are not interested in making love and that rate will the Koran says different and more exact it says your women are your tith and any to be able to have your woman at your will or something like that
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/000543.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1728719/posts
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/gang-rapists-attacks-unavoidable-says-lawyer/2005/10/11/1128796528939.html?oneclick=true
“A violent gang rapist should have been given a lesser sentence partly because he was a "cultural time bomb" whose attacks were inevitable, as he had emigrated from a country with traditional views of women, his barrister has argued.
MSK, who, with his three Pakistani brothers, raped several girls at their Ashfield family home over six months in 2002, was affected by "cultural conditioning … in the context of intoxification", Stephen Odgers, SC, told the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal yesterday.
MSK, 26, MAK, 25 and MMK, 19, are appealing against the severity of their sentences after they were found guilty of nine counts of aggravated sexual assault in company - a crime carrying a maximum penalty of life imprisonment - against two girls, aged 16 and 17, in July 2002.
MSK and MMK were jailed for 22 years, with a non-parole period of 16½ years, and 13 years, respectively, and MAK for 16 years (12 years non-parole).
Court orders prevent them being named. They are yet to be sentenced for other rapes.”
EnglishBlondie, the people of Katy, Texas could sneak in around midnight and saturate the land with lard or bacon grease. Perhaps that would render to land unsuitable for a mosque. Just simply spreading empty bacon packages would be enough. I have read opinions where wearing pig skin shoes or having a pigskin wallet is not allowed.
On the other hand, Mr Baker might be in personal danger.
Hi Pelayo, and Merry Christmas!
http://www.expressandstar.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=32&num=81092
Oink oink, oink oink
http://www.blackburncitizen.co.uk/news/newsheadlines/display.var.995239.0.murder_fear_of_sexgroom_girls_mum.phpl
“She is among dozens of girls who have been groomed for sex by gangs of men, predominantly Asian”
Hundreds of supporters of the Islamist parties chanted anti-Musharraf slogans at a demonstration in Rawalpindi, the city next door to Islamabad, and demanded that the government scrap the bill...
Heard at the demonstrations:
Mr. Musharraf, if you keep this up, our rights to rape children will be infringed upon! Grovel Grovel Grovel.
Oh darn now the half to obey those pesky laws and act like humans
You know, this really is a tragedy because rape is such a family value in Pakistan.
It gives new meaning to the phrase, "penal code".
Blondie & Islamaka,
Your points are well taken. Maybe these guys are SO unappealing that rape is the only way they can get laid. Lucky us.
To us it is rape to them it is keeping a younger sister in line, they are much sicker than most realize
Ze fuhrer has determined zat theze dohls are gifing ze nazi zalute. Zey must be deztroyed. Schnell!
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/01/germany.santas.reut/index.html
Le plus ça change... isn't it eerie?
"An Islamist opposition leader said it would turn conservative Pakistan into a "free sex zone".
And since rape isn't really sex.. I'd say Paki-land is nothing if not a sex-free zone. They rape freely and that includes their own wives.
islam truly is a virus that infects the human brain. If it takes over the human race is DONE.
Since there are too many in the WEST who stand in the way of decisive military action [yes, that includes this US administration] all we can hope for is that someone will come up with the ANTIDOTE!
For the religious among us that would be the Coming of the Lord or something like that.
As one of the more secularly inclined I am thinking along the lines of something completely brilliant and totally unexpected.
islam ie. the koran needs to be wrapped up from the inside. Our rational arguments here on JW and elsewhere don't so much except to give all of us focus and to bring us together, which is good for now.
Either we RALLY the rest of of Western Brethren to the cause of Freedom from pigslam OR someone comes up with something so brilliant that will defeat this virus from the inside out. I have no idea where that would start. Obviously I am not brilliant enough, but I will keep trying.
Just throwing out some ideas..
I am not the only one who conceptualizes islam as a virus that affects the human brain and psyche.. so it would seem logical that warfare would go beyond that conventional as it is being practiced today. Contemporary psy-ops seem ages behind the military.
If it were possible to unravel pigslam with an ANTIVIRUS of some kind it would also serve to avoid unnecessary bloodshed.
We don't have much time left to save civilization and the future of Mankind as a whole.
Imagine islam running roughshod worldwide. Does anyone think THEY care one bit about the environment or environmental issues? Why the Lefties don't see them as an environmental threat is beyond me.
An Islamist opposition leader said it would turn conservative Pakistan into a "free sex zone".
You mean it's not already?
"Hundreds of supporters of the Islamist parties chanted anti-Musharraf slogans at a demonstration in Rawalpindi"
And that included how many women? I didn't think so.
Personally I think this is a good step. But of course the women are all at home, unable to shout their thanks.
"and will allow convictions to be made on the basis of forensic and circumstantial evidence." They have that there?
Yawn. Just another Friday after their noon prayers.
Assalamau Laikum all,
This is good news indeed. There was token protests her in Lahore too....all bearded mensfolk LOL...it's good to see them get it in a$$ (forgive my French) , I so hate the Bar-stuarts.
Mushi now needs to take this further...and address the Ahmadi problem too. Nobody should be persecuted for their religious beliefs...especially peaceful muslims like me....our dawa is most important to please Allah SWT....you peoples know this.
If you can...please make representations at the highest level in the Amerike (e.g. Keith Ellison, the new wuslim congressman, Hillary Clinton) to help convince Mushi that the Ahmadi ARE muslim at heart and should not be persecuted.
Also any conversions should be to Ahmadi...and advertise this fact....let it make it to your local media outlets....let peoples like Jay Leno (is it?) know and recognise Ahmiddiya.
American,
Don't be so hard on poor little Naseem. When she converts to Christianity you and I can take her shopping and get her out of her old Hefty bag and then maybe we can stop for lunch and buy her a nice non-halal hamburger or a Red, Hot & Blue pork sandwich meal, supersized! He/she/it knows the likelihood of that happening is much greater than anyone of us succumbing to the Hefty bag debacle.
Silly wabbit, Hefty bags are for garbage, (not girls.) At least she got the "g" right.
"If you can...please make representations at the highest level in the Amerike (e.g. Keith Ellison, the new wuslim congressman, Hillary Clinton) to help convince Mushi that the Ahmadi ARE muslim at heart and should not be persecuted. "
actually i am doing everything in my power, to help muslim keep on persecuting ahmadi.
I also hope that those rape laws become as strict as ever
this i hope for muslims everywhere
Did anyone think of suing Barnes and Noble or Borders for carrying hate related material, i.e. the Koran? I'm sure the case would be tossed, but with a good spokesman, maybe it would make the news. I'd have to say that a book telling its readers to convert or kill others and that isn't fiction is definitely hate material.
Just a thought.
Nasseem,
Your idol was just a narcisistic deranged con man.
It must really take someone at the bottom of the food chain, like you, to swallow all that crap.
HTH
HAND
YHBT
[quote]If it were possible to unravel pigslam with an ANTIVIRUS of some kind it would also serve to avoid unnecessary bloodshed. [/quote]
There is an antidote, one that will kill leftism, Islam and other similar abominations: The antidote is to make intellectual honesty a religious tenet.
It is old knowledge that God is truth, but how many have truly understood what that actually means? In my mind, it means that God wants us to find him through understanding and acting upon the truth. Islam lies, Leftism lies, both undermine liberty and freedom, both are obnoxious and destructive. God wants us to know this, and by knowing the truth and acting upon it, we are doing exactly what God wants us to do. In order to know what the truth is, we need intellectual honesty which is absent in both Islam and Leftism.
Lies are the infection, the truth is the cure.