The End of British Multiculturalism?

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In this week’s Jihad Watch videoblog at Hot Air, I discuss Tony Blair’s speech from last Friday, which has been trumpeted, unfortunately somewhat inaccurately, as a discarding of multiculturalism.

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  1. says

    l happen to listen to Michael Savage’s show last night, and he played a tune by the Kinks, circa 1984, titled “Living on a thin line” if anyone ever thinks a song more descriptive about the Brits and Western civiilzation you could not get a song more attuned this topic of multiculturalism.
    another point Michael Savage had talked about the at some historian’s opinion that the Brits left Iraq too early and made the mistake of not finishing the job. interesting to listen. Mr.Savage should use this show as a favourite, he also spoke of Carter, etc. excellent show.

  2. says

    Blair sold out UK for a couple of million! He is a traitor!

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061214/ap_on_re_eu/britain_honors_scandal

    LONDON – Prime Minister Tony Blair has been questioned by police investigating allegations that peerages and other honors were bestowed in return for political contributions, Blair’s office said Thursday.

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    Downing Street said the interview had not taken place under caution, which would be the case if Blair were considered a suspect.

    Police have been investigating claims that all three major political parties awarded seats in the House of Lords and other honors in return for secret loans. Several senior Labour Party figures have already been quizzed by police, including former Science Minister Lord Sainsbury and Blair’s Middle East envoy, Lord Levy.

    Campaign funding rules allow those who offer loans ” but not donations ” to remain anonymous. The Labour Party has said it accepted, but did not disclose, loans of almost 14 million pounds ($25 million) from 12 supporters. The opposition Conservative and Liberal Democrat parties have acknowledged they have also received secret loans.

    Blair has been forced to acknowledge some supporters who offered the loans were later nominated for seats in the House of Lords.

  3. says

    A terror so great we forgot it at once?

    I just got a very revealing post from Brigtte Gabriels Americancongressfortruth.com
    How true … needs to be seriously considered …

    By Melanie Phillips
    Dhiren who? Mention Dhiren Barot to anyone and the chances are that you’ll be met with blank looks. At best, some might say, “Oh, wasn’t he that guy who, er, that trial recently, yeah, bit worrying…’ Thus the British have somehow failed to register the significance of the conviction last month of a man who was one of al Qaeda’s biggest fishes, guilty of the most devastating terrorist plot ever known in this country and one which would made 9/11 look like a minor warm-up act.

    This former airline ticket clerk plotted to kill hundreds of thousands of people in a series of synchronised atrocities in Britain and the US. He planned to blow up public buildings using gas cylinders in limousines, to mount a gas attack on the Heathrow Express rail shuttle, and to blow up the Tube under the Thames to rupture the walls keeping out the river. Police found in his notebooks details of how to construct a chemicals laboratory, along with recipes for poisons and plans to use radiation to spread sickness, panic, chaos and death on a vast scale.

    Terrifying and astounding as all this was, the real significance of the case lay in the way it punctured the myths fuelling Britain’s state of denial over Islamist terrorism.

    Myth one is that Britain is only threatened by such terror because the war in Iraq has radicalised British Muslims. Yet Barot was laying his infernal plans before 9/11, let alone the fall of Saddam.

    As long ago as 1999 he advocated bringing western countries to their knees. Significantly, he observed that this could only be achieved by Muslims living in western countries, because only they understood the culture, geography and common practices of the people amongst whom they lived.

    continued at http://civoc.com/society/?p=24

  4. says

    Jimmuh the jerk catta, taliban bill nelson, turban dick durbin, jon I don’t need your stinking medals scarry, and on and on, they don’t want the word to get out that they really do support catta’s lunatic view of the world. Every day there is another useless idiot making nice with those who would enslave or kill most of us. Don’t worry though, all who are allowed to continue to exist can look forward to a lifetime of antagonism, second class status or less, brutality, torture, intimidation, murder, rape extortion, kidnapping, robbery and overall hell on earth.

  5. says

    I am british

    But I dont live there anymore – I flew in for a day last week – at the airport there is caos – a striking metaphor for a country that is lost – 200 metre long cues that end with grannies and famillies all taking of their shoes and bobing through metal detectors with their clear plastic bags full of make-up and bottles of shampoo. An entire nation held ransom by uneducated peasants who live in this once proud land.

    Another metaphor – everyone stoically accepted the wait in the long queue except for groups of our Asian friends. I saw 2 groups of 20 something “asians” stroll to the front of the queue – no waiting for them – I could feel the contept they held the british in as no one challenged them.

    I thought about challenging them but I could see how it would go – I would be the one to end up in the cells for the night – I am an ex boxer and it would be hard to resist tapping a few of the arrogant little b***s on the chin – so I observed.

    Another metaphor – arrogant islamic males being followed by women in full burqua – in an airport – is that a security risk or what – I could go on – britain is on the brink – and they have no idea – Enouch Powel was dead right in the sixties and he was destroyed by the left for saying the truth – “blood on the streets” its inevitable now!

  6. says

    johnmac I know exactly what you’re talking about. It disgusts me to hear such things. It is not just only absurdity that they come from an inferior society and have an inferior economic status. It is the fact they are making statements with their attitudes and behaviors:
    1. They don’t want to be citizens of your country; they’re only there to deceive you and conquer you.
    2. They view Islam makes them superior: non-Muslims and females have second and third class status.

  7. says

    MC is alive and well.. NPR had on a bunch lif LiEberals pushing to get iraqi refugees into the USA. Of course there were the obvious sob stories..

    Then there was a guy who wrote an article about the Iraqi refugees.. and he moaned that the reaction on some blog [not mentioned by name of course] was: We don’t want hundreds of thousands of terrorists living in the United States. The host, Lehrer, reacted with a throaway line.. oh yeah an expression of populist opinion.

    Who are these MC/PC LiEberals to dismiss what vast numbers of people are thinking? Paid for by the public dole, Mr. Lehrer!!! We are paying your salary, traitor!

    We’ve seen where their BS has gotten us the last 30-odd years.

    This Tony BLiar thing comes hardly as a surprise. Time to investigate Bakkker/Bush?

  8. says


    So johnmac, were these ‘asians’ like, chinese or vietnamese or cambodians, or what?
    Call a spade a spade buddy.

    I was being ironic or was it sarcastic – anyway I think you know what I meant – they were a bunch of fuckin pakis – that direct enough for you
    pls excuse the french

  9. says

    i used to travel into and out of London (Heathrow and Gatwick) frequently. I like the Brits. They are a bit left, and dead-pan funny (even when they are desparately trying not to be). And they are regimented in what they think and do. Which, unfortunately, is their downfall.

    I would like to see them stand up. They need a Churchill again. Or Thatcher. Right now, they have a cross-pond chum with Bush 43, who actually belies Bush’s beliefs more that Bush belies his. They are both labour party lefties. Which, it seems, is where the republicans were headed en masse until they were derailed by the elections.

  10. says

    Off topic:

    Turkish documentary slanders Sweden.

    This is something Robert definitely should take up on Jihad Watch.

    Posted by: EliasAlucard

    Excerpt:

    Yavuz Baydar thinks that the documentary may be the work of ultra-nationalists intent on keeping Turkey out of the EU. One tactic is to portray EU member states in a very unflattering light, and in this case Sweden has borne the brunt of the film maker’s ire.

    “It is portrayed as an ugly country where it is impossible to live, a country characterised by tremendous violence, a country where minorities live in fear,” said Baydar.

    The news is not all bad. I wish they’d describe all Western countrie as a place where MOSLEMS live in fear – instead of England where the English have to live in fear. I just read with sadness that even a former boxer won’t challenge the Mo-Foes jumping to the head of the queue.

    I wish Johnmac would’ve *clocked* the bastards. That would be worth a night in jail for me. Make a big ruckus too.. if you get lucky some odd footbal fans might be around. it’s time to rise up and demand our INDIGENOUS PEOPLES’ RIGHTS!!!!!

  11. says

    Labours chickens are coming home to roost.
    I met a friend of mine a while ago for a drink.
    We were discussing the whole sorry mess.
    When the infiltration of the islamists into colleges and uni’s started about 20 years ago labour didn’t mind because they took up the “palestinian” banner and all that went with it, they didn’t mind then because the only students getting a beating back then were the Jewish kids and the skinny little hindu’s.
    But that was acceptable to them, because they were in it for the votes.
    The problem was it wasn’t just the palestinians was it ? it was “their “brothers in islam”
    the pak moslems, the bangladeshi’s, the kashmiri moslems, the chechans, the algerians, the entire international islamic cause, helped along by new socialist labour and a world full of non moslem victims, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist Parsi.

    johnmac.

    I hope that when you see a brown face that you can tell the difference between a moslem and a non moslem.
    When you talk about “groups of our Asian friends”
    You do know the difference don’t you.
    Because some I quite litrally your “Asian friends” and others are your moslem enemies.

  12. says

    “I hope that when you see a brown face that you can tell the difference between a moslem and a non moslem.
    When you talk about “groups of our Asian friends”
    You do know the difference don’t you.
    Because some I quite litrally your “Asian friends” and others are your moslem enemies.

    A good point – some of my best friends are hindu – i have attended a hindu wedding in India – a great experience and the hindus are a great people these people are genetically the same as the pakistani Islamics – the only difference is Islam – I know its Islam that we are up against and not any race of people – we will need these “brown” allies of us befgore this is all over – note the BNP making a strategic alliance with the indian sheiks – smart move – can they be called racist now – the bnp that is ?

  13. says

    The Republican RINO’s were tossed en masse although some districts voted for dialogue with the enemy. The primary difference between the left and the right is, the right supports this…http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008700.php
    While the left supports this…http://hotair.com/archives/2006/12/13/dictator-exploits-democratic-useful-idiot-for-photo-op/

    The Airline companies have already told everyone, we don’t care about your rights. Why should we? After all you have been to this point, willing to sacrifice any and all rights you may have once had, so why stop now?

    The friendly Asian asks you for directions, the hostile Asian wants to put a knife in your back.

  14. says

    A SQUIRRELS TALE

    REST OF THE WORLD VERSION:

    The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building and improving his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

    The grasshopper thinks he’s a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

    Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.
    The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

    THE END

    THE U.K. VERSION:
    The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

    The grasshopper thinks he’s a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

    Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.
    A social worker finds the shivering grasshopper, calls a press conference and demands to know why the squirrel should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like the grasshopper, are cold and starving.

    The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of the squirrel in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.

    The British press inform people that they should be ashamed that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so, while others have plenty.

    The Labour Party, Greenpeace, Animal Rights and The Grasshopper Council of GB demonstrate in front of the squirrel’s house.

    The BBC, interrupting a cultural festival special from Notting Hill with breaking news, broadcasts a multi cultural choir singing “We Shall Overcome”.

    Ken Livingstone rants in an interview with Trevor McDonald that the squirrel got rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the squirrel to make him pay his “fair share” and increases the charge for squirrels to enter inner London.

    In response to pressure from the media, the Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

    The squirrel’s taxes are reassessed.
    He is taken to court and fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as builders for the work he was doing on his home and an additional fine for contempt when he told the court the grasshopper did not want to work.

    The grasshopper is provided with a council house, financial aid to furnish it and an account with a local taxi firm to ensure he can be socially mobile. The squirrel’s food is seized and re-distributed to the more needy members of society, in this case the grasshopper.

    Without enough money to buy more food, to pay the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, the squirrel has to downsize and start building a new home.

    The local authority takes over his old home and utilises it as a temporary home for asylum seeking cats who had hijacked a plane to get to Britain as they had to share their country of origin with mice. On arrival they tried to blow up the airport because of Britain’s apparent love of dogs.

    The cats had been arrested for the international offence of hijacking and attempted bombing but were immediately released because the police fed them pilchards instead of salmon whilst in custody.

    Initial moves to then return them to their own country were abandoned because it was feared they would face death by the mice. The cats devise and start a scam to obtain money from people’s credit cards.

    A Panorama special shows the grasshopper finishing up the last of the squirrel’s food, though spring is still months away, while the council house he is in, crumbles around him because he hasn’t bothered to maintain the house.
    He is shown to be taking drugs. Inadequate government funding is blamed for the grasshopper’s drug ‘illness’.

    The cats seek recompense in the British courts for their treatment since arrival in UK.

    The grasshopper gets arrested for stabbing an old dog during a burglary to get money for his drugs habit. He is imprisoned but released immediately because he has been in custody for a few weeks.

    He is placed in the care of the probation service to monitor and supervise him. Within a few weeks he has killed a guinea pig in a botched robbery.
    A commission of enquiry, that will eventually cost £10,000,000 and state the obvious, is set up.

    Additional money is put into funding a drug rehabilitation scheme for grasshoppers and legal aid for lawyers representing asylum seekers is increased.

    The asylum-seeking cats are praised by the government for enriching Britain’s multicultural diversity and dogs are criticised by the government for failing to befriend the cats.

    The grasshopper dies of a drug overdose. The usual sections of the press blame it on the obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity and his traumatic experience of prison.

    They call for the resignation of a minister.
    The cats are paid a million pounds each because their rights were infringed when the government failed to inform them there were mice in the United Kingdom.

    The squirrel, the dogs and the victims of the hijacking, the bombing, the burglaries and robberies have to pay an additional percentage on their credit cards to cover losses, their taxes are increased to pay for law and order and they are told that they will have to work beyond 65 because of a shortfall in government funds.

    THE END

  15. says

    >>>A good point – some of my best friends are hindu – i have attended a hindu wedding in India – a great experience and the hindus are a great people>>>

    Nevertheless, johnmac, I would still advise, it is better to err on the side of caution. And I am very much a hindu. Unless you are very sure about that Hindu friend.

    apostate_islam,

    why is it that we the hindus have been so tardy and lamentably late in demanding not to be clubbed with muslims as “SouthAsians”?

    A lot of hindus might celebrate festivals and distribute sweets. But most of them in reality worship Khans & Badshahs of filmworld and cricketers. The trusting and naive White Westerner does not really know how deep the dissemblings, fissures run and where exactly the faultlines run.

  16. says

    Johnmac,

    I am glad we are all clear on this “asian” issue.
    It is good that you have lots of Hindu friends.
    Can you contact me on apostate_islam@hotmail.com

    I will forward a document to you that you can pass on to all who may be interested and maybe your hindu friends can put it up in their temples so that all can see new labours alliance with evil.
    It is a newspaper article called
    “labour and british moslems, can we dream the same dream” it is by mike “he orifice” obrien,
    it appeared in “the moslem” newspaper.

    I have distibuted a several thousand of them to Sikh’s/Hindu’s the result is always the same
    “Bloody fury”

    Please contact me.

    Regards

    AI

  17. says

    Rudekid – That was GREAT!!

    Blair has been forced to acknowledge some supporters who offered the loans were later nominated for seats in the House of Lords.

    Posted by: ofcourse

    At the risk of being a bloghog.. May I ask someone who is closer to the problem what is the religious background of these “peers”?

    Are these appointments revocable if they are found to be in violation of the Law?

  18. says

    Aye apostate_islaa, good to see you at still at our “conspiracy”.

    @ Cross & Crows:
    why is it that we the hindus have been so tardy and lamentably late in demanding not to be clubbed with muslims as “SouthAsians”?

    Actually its the PC media that chooses to call us a Asians. That way Muslims hide behind our common “ethnicity” when they fuck up and co-opt our achievements!

    P.S Latest joke, according to Wikipedia, Panini was an ancient Pakistani! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=P%C4%81%E1%B9%87ini&oldid=93856338

  19. says

    Vikrant_Camberleykar,

    I see,ok.

    Here in India, it is getting murkier. When some British umpire had a row with puki haq, the hindus here chorused together “we are with p*kis**n” though none of their opinion really mattered.

  20. says

    Churchill was way ahead of his time. Google in Winston Churchill speeches and just read some of his speeches made in the early 1900’s , 20, 30 and 40s.

    More often than not, he was labeled bigot, hatemonger, dolt, etc..

    Come to think of it, some posters here have been called the same.

    Like Churchill, I hope history shows we recognized the problem earlier than most.

    This time around I hope we do not allow the world to repeat past mistakes of ignoring the problem.

  21. says

    I have been meaning to copy this on to JW for a while. Sometime ago I was contacted by a beastie called salman butt, trying to convince me of the truth of islam.
    This is where labour has led us. The beastie is a student at Imperial College, as you read through note his perverse logic .

    It is longwinded however, start at the bottom.
    Where islam did !(mohammeds bottom I mean)
    Enjoy

    Butt, Salman M (salman.butt@imperial.ac.uk)
    To: apostate islam (apostate_islam@hotmail.com)

    Subject: RE: islam

    right, at least we’re starting to get somewhere, i saw some genuine concerns in your rant there, so i’ll try and get started on what can be extracted from the fustian email.

    …. what i mean by our colonialist expeditions, are our colonialist expeditions. are you implying im any less british than you?

    ….. i think you should look up the meaning of apostacy; under islamic law, there is no compulsion in religion, you can believe whatever the hell you want, but you can’t do anything which contradicts islamic law, such as sacrificing virgins to your pagan gods and what-not. this includes blaspheming against what people perceive to be supreme, such as the TRUE meaning of apostacy. apostacy does not mean merely changing your religion.

    ….things such as the motorcar and other fun stuff you enjoy wouldn’t really come under ‘freedom’, if you are meaning the freedom of education and moving forward of science and technology, then you must think that science began with the Europeans, in which case, i’m afraid you need some history lessons. on the contrary, when europe was plunged in the dark ages, there were universities and libraries of Alexandrian proportions in the Islamic state. Islam, unlike mainstream christianity over the past thousand years, has been a supporter of the learning of science, the Qur’an is a testament to this when it orders mankind to seek knowledge again and again. (that includes women just in case you didn’t know). in islam, they dont look at science or medicine as some sort of heresy, but i’ll let you off for that one, because you were probably raised in a christian society, and would tend to think islam is similar in that way. ’tis not.
    i wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t believe me, because chances are you were ‘educated’ in either america or britain, as was I, but all you have to do is pick up a book, or, as i said earlier, make at least one intelligent friend (it doesn’t have to be me)

    …as for the marriage thing, the minimum age for a girl to wed in pakistan is 16. even if it were lower, which it has been in the past, what is the big deal? does your concern arise because your own forefathers only a hundred years ago had absolutely no limit to the number and age of young girls/boys they could have sex with WITHOUTH MARRIAGE, whilst in islam the girl was always protected in wedlock? i dont quite see that, you may have to explain it once again to my confused self. definately if you are in fact american, then you must have a problem with it anyway because your pop culture frowns upon it, well the rest of the world doesn’t really care what they approve of on Friends. same deal with consanguineous marriages, or letting disabled people have children, and other remnants of the eugenics movement of facism.
    Mohammed, peace be upon him, was i think 53 when he married A’isha, and she was either 6 or 9 or 12, depending on varying sources, it doesn’t really matter. the marriage was consumated three years later. by the way, he was not a beast, he was a man, but i’ll let you off for that too, seeing as you probably learned islam from fox news and gcse RE.

    …as for the saudi arabian troops, i dont really know how many troops they sent, i wasn’t there to count them, but that is yet another irrelevant statement.

    you seem to be making the mistake of thinking that Islam is what ‘moselems’ do, when in fact it is what muslims are supposed to do. read the qur’an, you can find it online, not on one of your radical christian/athiest websites, try reading it for yourself, rather than blindly following what a bigger kid told you (another islamic obligation)

    peace
    ps thanks for the quicker reply, keep em coming

    From: apostate islam [mailto:apostate_islam@hotmail.com]
    Sent: Mon 16/10/2006 5:52 PM
    To: Butt, Salman M
    Subject: RE: islam

    salman,

    what precisly do you mean by “OUR colonialist expeditions ?”

    “probably all of the freedoms and advantages”
    Does this mean that “freedom of conscience” to believe or not to believe, to change ones belief all were gifted to us by islam ?
    How does this irrational statement sit with the death penalty for apostacy in islam ?

    “name one good thing, apart from binge drinking, that britain or america has made itself, please.”

    Personally I wouldn’t put binge drinking on the list or maybe you just can’t phrase sentences correctly.

    well the list is long, so here goes..
    the motor car, aircraft, technology in general
    modern medicine (it works honest)
    machinary that allows the extraction of oil from the lands of your arab masters
    PC’s and the internet that allow you to take part in exchanges such as the one we are currently in.

    Now I do have questions for you.
    What is the minimum age a girl can get married at in pakistan and the land of your masters saudi arabia ?
    Why did the mullahs reduce the age of marriage to 9 in iran as soon as they took over.

    How old was the beast mohammed when he married aysha, how old was he?
    How old were they when the marriage was consumated ?

    Your last name indicates pakistani kashmiri origins, did your family suffer in the earthquake ?
    how many troops did the arabs send to help their “brothers in islam”.

    Peace to you to, but only in a non moslem country, because you sure as hell won’t find it in a moslem one.

    Regards

    AI

    ________________________________
    > Subject: RE: islam
    > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:45:20 +0100
    > From: salman.butt@imperial.ac.uk
    > To: apostate_islam@hotmail.com
    >
    > just a quick reply as im running short of time.
    > there are no ‘moselem’ countries at this point in time, only puppet democracies left behind from OUR colonialist expeditions. Islam has not failed, in fact, probably all of the freedoms and advantages we enjoy in our comfortable western lives, were introduced by muslims in the muslim state not so long ago. name one good thing, apart from binge drinking, that britain or america has made itself, please.
    > peace
    > ps thanks for the quick reply, but please relpy sooner this time, and with an appropriately phrased question, so that i can dispel all the myths you have about islam one by one.
    > ________________________________
    > From: apostate islam [mailto:apostate_islam@hotmail.com]
    > Sent: Mon 16/10/2006 10:51 AM
    > To: Butt, Salman M
    > Subject: RE: islam
    > salman,
    > I don’t need your advice.
    > I have plenty of intelligent friends.
    > If islam is so fantastic why is it that moslem countries have failed, why do moslems run so quickly from moslem countries to non moslem ones.
    > I have met fools like you before, the problem with islam is that it has failed, results are everything and islam has failed to produce, why do you study at Imperial ? whats wrong with a university in a moslem country ?
    > Peace to you salman (in a non moslem country, because you sure won’t find it in a moslem one.
    > ________________________________
    > > Subject: islam
    > > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:16:25 +0100
    > > From: salman.butt@imperial.ac.uk
    > > To: apostate_islam@hotmail.com
    > >
    > > hi, you don’t know me, but i’d like to give you some friendly advice.
    > > go out and make at least one intelligent friend, and spend lots of time with them.
    > > peace
    > _________________________________________________________________

  22. says

    vik and C&C:

    I’m only an outsider looking in and expect there could be a few reasons for some Indian Hindus don’t distance themselves from their Pakistani Muslim neighbours, at least in certain contexts.

    Depending on their age, would their thinking not be largely coloured by India’s membership in the very anti-western so-called “non-aligned nations” camp?

  23. says

    johnmac:

    >>>arrogant islamic males being followed by women in full burqua>>>

    Let us not hasten to rescue and empower them. Leave it to their koran and their five- times appearing -everyday ‘god’.

    The grasshopper story above reminded me of a tale from Panchatantra. A monk takes pity on a mouse that is chased by a cat. He sprinkles holy water and transforms it into something,then something…eventually in disgust tempered with wisdom reconverts it into the mouse that it was and it gets eaten up by the cat.

  24. says

    Meanwhile in another leftard megalopolis, the best way to lower crime stats is for the squirrels, dogs and guinea pigs to just quit reporting any criminal activity.
    http://www.californiaconservative.org/crime/lapd-jukes-the-numbers/

    Here’s some news, er, it’s not news to us but to others…
    Religious prophet Muhammad suffered from epileptic seizures, according to a book recently released by a Tehran- native and Muslim-raised neurophysiologist.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1752648/posts?page=1
    Sword and Seizure, that has a nice ring to it.

  25. says

    Depending on their age, would their thinking not be largely coloured by India’s membership in the very anti-western so-called “non-aligned nations” camp?

    Bollocks… Hindus have near genetic hatred of Islam and Muslims. In most it generally gets diluted by ceaseless brainwashing by MSM and govt propoganda machinery!

    I’ll not believe anything from Wikipedia anymore. What a joke!

    Dont worry we have a powerful Zionist-Hindutvadi cabal at Wikipedia. We have over 200 top editors on our side including 13 admins. Most higherups including Jimbo Wales (founder of Wikipedia) are pro-Zionists.

  26. says

    waterdragon52,

    The word “democracy” is very misleading as far as India is concerned. If it means “will of the people”, consider most people here not informed enough. In India, it is buy the people, far the people and off the people, face the people marooned among commandos.

    One political analyst here says ” we have no choice but to elect among the Dacoit,the Rapist,the Murderer and the Thief…decide for yourself and choose who you prefer…” Bitter but true.

    Anti-Western, yes. Sourgrapes logic:) Indians themselves have a lot of complexes about skin colour but transfer everything to the Whites in the umbrella term ‘racist’ when it comes to looking for the cause. None other than RK.Narayan himself once remarked:

    “It is so much easier to love your motherland (India) from a distance”.

    Rocky had written once, if islam did not come in the way, West and India would have had no animosity. Amen to that!

  27. says

    Anyone who dares to quote Churchill here (India) is promptly branded a traitor or a brown slave of the White:) (“rascals….naked fakir…”)

    Quoting Churchill again, ( expressing his ire about prepositions)I dodge:
    “Up with this, I will not put”!

  28. says

    Another metaphor – arrogant islamic males being followed by women in full burqua – in an airport – is that a security risk or what – I could go on – britain is on the brink – and they have no idea – Enouch Powel was dead right in the sixties and he was destroyed by the left for saying the truth – “blood on the streets” its inevitable now!

    God I’m gay, but when I see our women dress like that and act like that I get very angry. I’d marry a woman like that on the spot if she’d make the break from the jerk — though of course I’d prefer to convert him or introduce him to therapy instead. I feel betrayed. How could anyone sell their birthright for such an ugly stew? Especially when there’s so much at risk that affects me.

    (What creeps. They tell me I’m an abomination while their own prophet married a six-year-old!!)

    It’s not just a Muslim thing, though. I saw a couple who’d converted to the Krishnas act like that and I just wanted to beat them.

  29. says

    BLIND SHEIKE SAID TO BE IN GRAVE CONDITION.

    TERROR ALERT RAISED!,

    hey when the old blind buzzard crooks, can we go out into the streets and cheer,better yet, get your favourite adult beverage and cheer on his passing to hell!

  30. says

    BLIND SHEIK SAID TO BE IN GRAVE CONDITION.

    I will celebrate with bbq pork ribs, cold beer, preceeded by a Christian blessing.PBWM (pork be with me).

  31. says

    Vikrant_Camberleykar says,

    ‘Bollocks… Hindus have near genetic hatred of Islam and Muslims. In most it generally gets diluted by ceaseless brainwashing by MSM and govt propoganda machinery!’

    Yeah, but no but yeah my sis Muslim Unity says:

    ‘The British, who divided Hindus and Muslims- so they could benefit. Hindus and Muslims in India had lived together for centuries as brothers and sisters, but the West did not want that.’ 24/07/06
    So there.

  32. says

    western infidel,

    Hindu-muslim bhaibhai is communist and racist gandhi indoctrination. Anyway,a hindu has to think and decide for himself.I have no tears to waste for any hindu dhimmi.”Idiotised”(Hugh)

  33. says

    OT, but this is a good one to watch:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Qx4u-Uua8&mode=related&search

    Excellent job!

    Since this thread had gone “airborne” I’d like to ask if anyone can tell me whether US AIR is paying off the [f] lying imams? Now I’ll be off to contact US AIR to let them know that they will lose me as a customer for life should they pay these scum a penny uncontested.

    If they have to go to court to defand against this and it ends up costing them a lot of money – in the end they will find that the increas in ridership will more than make up for this loss.

    Stand UP, US AIR!

  34. says

    Vikrant:

    Actually, you proved my point:

    […]
    In most it generally gets diluted by ceaseless brainwashing by MSM and govt propoganda machinery!

    […]

    Posted by: Vikrant_Camberleykar at December 14, 2006 02:11 PM

    The MSM and gov’t propagandists are probably of that generation that became adults in the 70s/80s, just about the time when it became fashionable to pity the poor powerless Palestinians and hate the big, bad bully Israel, who after suffering three wars of aggression had the temerity to hold onto lands that were well within the original mandate and also within a natural eastern boundary (the Jordan River) until the Palestinians and their neighbouring supporters agreed to leave Israel in peace within the 1967 borders — or younger and totally influenced by that generation.

    As for Hindu-Jewish relations otherwise, I know that Hindu India was a safe home for three distinct Jewish diasporas, from the ancient oil presser community of Kerala, to the more recently arrived Baghdadi Jews (in two waves, the earlier being in the 1700s). However, I understand that most of India’s Jewish community left around the time that India started to distance itself from the British Commonwealth.

    western infidel: I assume you were being ironic. Only a troll with a name like Muslim Unity could gloss over the history of the Muslim conquest and ignore the fact that Pakistan itself broke apart when the Muslim Bangladeshis demanded independence in the 1970s and blame the Brits for “divide and conquer”.

  35. says

    To whom it may concern:

    I’ve been following the story of the six imams who were removed from that flight in Minnesota a few weeks ago.

    To my dismay i have learned that they are now trying to shake down the airline outside the legal system.

    I would like you to know that I will never again book a flight with your airline if you agree to voluntarily give these folks a red cent.

    Let them take you to court and even if it costs more to fight them off – your crew did a wonderful job and a tacit payment on your part would have a chilling effect on the future alertness of both your passengers and crew.

    In the event of a voluntary payment I’d have to consider US AIR as security-challenged.

    Please do consider the positive impact your business will have if you take a stand and do the right thing.

    1. You may just win!

    2. Patriotic and security-minded Americans will FLOCK to buy travel from you! Thus offsetting any expense you may incur in the event the court case doesn’t go in your favor. The public knows that a jury verdict is not always based on the realities of the situation and there is always the opportunity for appeals. And judges even have been known to reduce the damages amounts at times.

    Please do take the concerns of the vast majority of the flying public into consideration.

    With kind regards

  36. says

    germaninamerica,

    lets make it even easier to send your support to US Airways, bypass the “call centre” and go straight to the people dealing with it……

    http://www.usairways.com/awa/content/contact/pressroom.aspx

    Senior Vice President, Corporate Communications
    Elise Eberwein
    E-mail: elise.eberwein@usairways.com

    Director, Corporate Communications
    Andrea Rader
    E-mail: andrea.rader@usairways.com

    Manager, Media Relations
    Philip Gee
    E-mail: philip.gee@usairways.com

    Manager, Corporate Communications
    Michelle Mohr
    E-mail: michelle.mohr@usairways.com

    Associate Manager, Media Relations
    Valerie Wunder
    E-mail: valerie.wunder@usairways.com

    Morgan Durrant
    E-mail: morgan.durrant@usairways.com

  37. says

    OT, but we’ve OT for a while here —

    This is the most influential international business/politics daily in the world:

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/30a6a58a-8b18-11db-8940-0000779e2340.html

    — quote —
    Mr Ahmadi-Nejad’s remarks are damaging in other ways. They give the impression that anti-Jewish bigotry is widespread across the Muslim world. In historical reality, anti-Semitism is a Christian disease. There is no trace of it in Persia’s Shahnameh or Book of Kings, while the Koran enjoins believers to respect Jews and Christians as monotheist People of the Book, sharing the common legacy of Abraham.
    — endquote —

    Even when they criticize the jihadis, they’ll make sure to show it as an action of one “loose cannon” politician, and certainly out of line with the peaceful and tolerant Islam.

    Would you people smack FT down for me, with a nice letter to the editor, please, about what the Koran’s and Muslim world’s attutude towards Jews is?

  38. says

    Butt is actually a Kashmiri surname..

    Posted by: Vikrant_Camberleykar at December 14, 2006 02:14 PM

    Oops. I didn’t know that.

    Posted by: americaningermany

    Whatever the guy’s name is.. We need to get his BUTT back to Kashmir!!!

    Hey AIG.. Did you see the post suggesting you and I are the same person posting under dual identities?! LOL

    The reason I chose my name though is based on yours since it describes me well to those who want to know.

    Anyway.. I’ve gotten some flak for bloghogging so I’ll try and refrain. Working on my website actually makes me money – whereas this doesn’t. 😉

  39. says

    ApostateIslam, I wanted to share this with you, because your email buddy thinks that Pakistan is so good to their women. This is a call from an MP in ENGLAND, saying that this young Muslim woman needs protection from Muslim men in England. The cruelty is just amazing:

    Nushaba Hussein, chair of the Human Rights Action Committee of the Muslim Parliament says recognising polygamy would give legal recourse to women should their husband die intestate or if the relationship fails. She cites the case study below as an example:

    Samira’s story Samira came from a poor family in Pakistan. A marriage was arranged for her with a much older man in the UK. Shortly after her arrival, her husband died. Ejaz, a rich businessman, whose wife was ill and infertile offered to make her his second wife, and married her in a Muslim ceremony at a London mosque. She moved into the home that Ejaz shared with his first wife. Samira had two children from Ejaz but his first wife became jealous and eventually threw her out with her two children.

    Samira’s story…
    Her compatriots treated her contemptuously and called her a loose woman. In their eyes she was a shamed woman with two failed marriages. No family would want to be associated with her, and certainly no other man would marry her again.

    Ejaz stopped paying maintenance for Samira and her children. Within her community Samira was treated as a single woman with two illegitimate children. In western society this generally no longer carries a stigma, but in the Asian community where values are more conservative, life can be made impossible.

    Samira has no access to the courts to demand payment for herself as a legal wife, neither is she able to obtain maintenance for the children and rights of inheritance for them.

    What the Muslim Parliament says:
    According to Nushaba Hussein, Samira’s case highlights the vulnerability of women in polygamous marriages and making it legal would give leave them less open to abuse.

    ‘It does happen that Islam’s very strict conditions for polygamy are occasionally abused. These men would like to keep subsequent marriages clandestine so that women can’t do anything if the they choose to renege on their duties, or leave them,’ she adds.

    ‘They are reduced to nothing more than mistresses, which in Islamic society is very shameful. They don’t have a right to inheritance, which is a problem when husbands die intestate. I know of cases where the husband has provided a wife and his children with a house but not made a will, and it has been taken away from them once he has died, leaving them homeless’

    The Muslim Parliament’s call for recognition of polygamous marriages has been met with a mix of criticism and silence:

    Church of England
    ‘Polygamy doesn’t fit in with the Christian idea of marriage,’ said a spokesman for the Church of England. ‘It may be a cultural practise in some parts of the world, but many cultures used to practise slavery but that doesn’t make it right.’

    The Women’s Institute
    The WI, usually quick to comment on social issues involving women and children, refused to comment, saying it was not a policy issue that had been discussed by its members.

    The Equal Opportunities Commission
    The EOC refused to comment on the matter, but a spokesman later pointed out that once polygamy became law, British women would have the right to have more than one husband under equal opportunities legislation.

    http://www.islamfortoday.com/polygamy1.htm

    =============================================

    And this MP wants to legalize polygamy so the women in polygamy who were MARRIED IN A MOSQUE, would get protection. SHAME!

  40. says

    Yeah gary that was a good article, im definately using that argument the next time some left wing do-gooder tells me im wrong.

    I got this from the comments section, I think its a nice way of descibing these Intolerance Nazis:

    “The problem may be an innate human problem. I’m raising two young children, and pretty early on I ran into “Daddy’s being mean to me…” when I banned cookies for breakfast. Unless I had pre-indoctrinated post-modernist toddlers, what I really had was little people who wanted to have their way whether or not it made any sense. It’s a natural impulse, but they needed to be taught. So of course they learned to try to climb up and sneak the cookies, and that needed to be dealt with too.

    It’s cute when they’re little, but later…not so much.”

  41. says

    johnmac quote

    A good point – some of my best friends are hindu – i have attended a hindu wedding in India – a great experience and the hindus are a great people these people are genetically the same as the pakistani Islamics – the only difference is Islam – I know its Islam that we are up against and not any race of people – we will need these “brown” allies of us befgore this is all over – note the BNP making a strategic alliance with the indian sheiks – smart move – can they be called racist now – the bnp that is ?

    the bnp is a racist party and no better then a nazi party if bnp won all non whites in UK would end up like the jews in nazi germany. I hate islam but nazism is just as bad as islam and thats what the bnp party is nazi and just as bad as islam. And for your information bnp supporters have done lots of racist acts towards hindus just like they have towards blacks and other minoritys

  42. says

    I know that the 2006 Dhimmi Internatinale Award poll has already been taken, but here’s an early nomination for Toni Blare for 2007 (and yes, I know that isn’t how his name is spelled).

    I really enjoyed rudekid’s parody on Aesop’s fable (although I don’t think it was the Grasshopper and the Squirrel–I think the other guy was an Ant…oh well, regardless…). I love it when people use analogies to illustrate the idiocy of liberalism–spreading misery to everyone equally.

  43. says

    Kay Dec 14 05.00

    The serious political work for introducing polygamy in Britain started about 4 years ago.

    1. Radio 4’s “Today” is always used to test the air and they did an item about 4 years ago when a muslim woman was interviewed. Amoung other things she said – as near as I can remember – was “We muslims have been supporting the labour party for years and it’s about time we got some payback”.

    2. About 2 years ago Radio 4’s “Womans hour” had half an hour on polygamy in Britain. The line taken was not “Stop it! It’s illegal!” But “Golly gosh is’nt it common!.

    This is called preparing the ground.

  44. says

    I went through the qu’ran and hadiths and found many ayahs and sayings of muhammad stating muslims could put off their prayers during travel and other times if they feared being attacked or ridiculed by the nonmuslims and could make their prayers up at a later time. I sent them to customer relations of us airways!
    They replied thanking me for those ayahs from the qu’ran

    Im sure they will be well used if C.A.I.R. and ibrahim hooper seeks to strong arm us airways!

  45. says

    http://www.hinduunity.org/

    raz great site. Bravo to those Hindus who know who their enemies and allies are!

    [From above site]

    ISLAMIC MOSQUES ARE TERRORIST MANUFACTURING PLANTS

    Beware of Mosques & Islamic centers in your country. We infiltrated a Mosque in the U.S. as new converts on June 25th, 2006 Though we were welcomed as new converts, we were exposed to Mass-Anti U.S. and extreme hatred towards non-muslims. When we asked the Imam on how he felt about Al-Queida, he responded “These are our brothers, when they die, we die with them. Islam will conquer this world either with peace or with war. “. When we asked how we can help the Islamic cause, the Imam’s response was “Learn from your brothers who are dieing everyday. Engage the enemy with everything you have. Use the Koran as your guide”.

  46. says

    Here’s an optimistic view. Even if Mr. Blair’s sentiments are being overstated, if the public agreement is great enough, politicians will be pulled in that direction. The gravitational pull of mass public opinion could bring about the end of the multiculturalist agenda despite Blair’s true intentions.

  47. says

    Kay there is something called child support, which has nothing to do with marraige.

    Secondly, if they don’t want the problems that come with polygamy, they should be told to stop doing it. Where are the authorities anyway? Why isn’t there a public condemnation about these aliens’ perverted practices? Why is the UK government bent on forcing birth control on its native population and other non-Muslims? While looking sideways on these lowly Muslims spreading like an out-of-control bacteria in the UK.

  48. says

    this is the lyrrics to the song by the Kinks that is very much attuned to England and the West
    :
    All the stories have been told
    Of kings and days of old,
    But there’s no England now.
    All the wars that were won and lost
    Somehow don’t seem to matter very much anymore.
    All the lies we were told,
    All the lies of the people running round,
    They’re castles have burned.
    Now I see change,
    But inside we’re the same as we ever were.

    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?
    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?
    Living on a thin line,
    Living this way, each day is a dream.
    What am I, what are we supposed to do?
    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?

    Now another century nearly gone,
    What are we gonna leave for the young?
    What we couldn’t do, what we wouldn’t do,
    It’s a crime, but does it matter?
    Does it matter much, does it matter much to you?
    Does it ever really matter?
    Yes, it really, really matters.

    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?
    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?

    Now another leader says
    Break their hearts and break some heads.
    Is there nothing we can say or do?
    Blame the future on the past,
    Always lost in blood and guts.
    And when they’re gone, it’s me and you.

    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?
    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?
    Living on a thin line.

  49. says

    Of course, I don’t think I have ever been so outraged as when I read that article about the poor Pakistani girl who was obviously exploited by those who she should have been able to trust the MOST. First her parents, who sold her off and sent her to a far away land, where she could not even communicate. Secondly by the man who she married, who evidently didn’t make any provision for her when he died, Thirdly, by the mosque who gave her to an old man, and MARRIED her, which should at least be morally upheld, whether or not it was legal. The clerics were responsible to this poor girl when she was thrown out with two children, they should have shamed the second husband for allowing his first wife to throw them out. This is the most outrageous immoral act, and there seems to be no shame in this article! Just a request that the state take care of her! God forbid this should come to US shores. It makes me so angry, I could spit!

  50. says

    ***

    Shortly after her arrival, her husband died. Ejaz, a rich businessman, whose wife was ill and infertile offered to make her his second wife, and married her in a Muslim ceremony at a London mosque.

    ***

    And furthermore, if polygamy is illegal in the UK, then why does this mosque still exist? Why didn’t they lose their license to marry? Why are they still clerics? They should be taken to task for what they did!

  51. says

    Correct Kay, but the first and foremost blame should have been placed on the perpetrator and co-conspirators. Ejaz and his associates in this crime should have been prosecuted with the heaviest hand of the Law. Not only that, they must have been deported immediately for committing such a reprehensible, and hideous act.

    We know why this polygamy thing is being promoted by the Muslims in Western countries, while it’s rarely practiced in much of the Islamic world. They are trying to achieve demographic superiority in our countries. We must treat it like what it really is, an affront on our countries by Muslims fanatics. The punishment should fit the crime: banishment!

    Look at this! Our authorities aren’t even placing the Muslims under the same laws of ours. Where is the cry for justice that the leftists trumpet! Justice, where have thou gone!

  52. says

    Blair’s speech was supposedly about multiculturalism but this was typical PC obfusction: it was clearly about the problems Muslims are causing. I’ve always maintained that multi-culturalism is fine within limits – you just have to disapprove of past historical exceses, take an interest in other cultures and make sure members of minorities are proportionately reprsented in jobs if they are qualified to do thm. Islam, however, is the the fly in the ointment because of its arrogant, predatory, aggressive and deceitful nature. Important blurring factors in the barriers between communities in a multi-rcial society are iter-marriage and conversion to and from different faiths. This may only affect 5%,10% or so of each community but it has a disproportionate effect on how groups fit together. In this respect Islam goes out of its way to prevent either – or raather turn the process into a one-way-street by which you only marry in to Islam not out and you only convert to Islam not from it.

    Regarding polygamy:the UK government would really let the Muslim community know it meant business if it sent the police in to do an intensive investigation of every Muslim male who claims benefits for a dependent, live-in sister-in-law. These men should then be arrested for bigamy and put in jail.

  53. says

    PS – OT but you have to hand it to Blair. On a day when the country is pre-occupied with developments in a terrible serial killing case and a long awaited report on the death oof Princess Diana is released, it is announced, at tea time. that the serious fraud office is to drop its investigation into a huge bribes for contracts scandal to avoid harming Saudi/ UK relations(It would also damage the UK balance of payments and put thousands out of work). Blair also became the first British PM to be interviewed by the police – although to be fair, all PM’s have exchanged peerages for donations/loans.
    Someone in this government once had to resign for saying, on the day of the WTC attack, that it would be a good day for burying bad news.

  54. says

    Well Wally, I guess that the UK just showed everyone who is the true boss of the world, didn’t they?

    “All Heil King Abdullah…” and all the little dhimmis said, “We submit!”

    Great.

  55. says

    It will become Ed Koch multiculturalism. Today Ed Koch demanded that Dennis Prager be thrown off the Jewish Holocaust Commission for his statements that Keith Ellison should not be taking the re-enacted ceremonial oath of office on the Qur’an. It is frightening that the main victims of violent Jihad would speak out on behalf of the religion that would destroy them and their country; These are very people that are holding an Anti-Holocaust convention in Iran as we speak.
    For all the criticism of President Bush on this site and elsewhere, what will follow in the arena of multiculturalism will be the opportunity which Muslims, who wish to harm us, will take advantage. I do not anticipate that things will become any better under the more liberal regime in Washington. One of our founding principles was the freedom of religion. As much of Jihad is directed from and shielded by clerical scholars that control the mosques, it is our very own beliefs and rights that will be used against us. If the victims are morally equivalent to the oppressors all will be lost, and we will have committed cultural suicide.

  56. says

    ofcourse & kay

    On my last post on this I forgot to say it’s not “Polygamy” on the BBC and in the MSM now. It’s called “Plural marriage” which is as nice a piece of repackaging as you can get and a sure sign of the political wind.

    Watch out for it.

  57. says

    Arms deal bribes

    Sorry but who cares which Saudi pockets the money went in? The place is run like a family firm anyway, the important thing is to get it back with a decent % on top.

  58. says

    the bnp is a racist party and no better then a nazi party if bnp won all non whites in UK would end up like the jews in nazi germany. I hate islam but nazism is just as bad as islam and thats what the bnp party is nazi and just as bad as islam. And for your information bnp supporters have done lots of racist acts towards hindus just like they have towards blacks and other minoritys

    Posted by: Greek Gurl at December 14, 2006 05:42 PM

    Greek Gurl please qualify you statement with facts, in all the debates that have taken place on JW regarding the BNP no one has shown that the BNP is racist. How are the BNP’s policies any diiferent from say Israel which has an ethnocentric nationalist policy towards Jews, I dont here anyone calling them racists. In fact it is a sensible position for maintaining a cultural identity over many generations, particularly when you live in a small geographic area and are surrounded by people who would wish you harm.

    If you are going to come on here throwing about accusations please back it up with facts rather than just your feeeeeeelings.

  59. says

    The BNP are a racist party if you take Nick Griffin at his word. The truth though, is that if the mainstream parties continue to ignore the fault-lines that are opening up in multi-culti Britain, more people will be driven into the hands of people like the BNP.

    As for Blair, I voted him Dhimmi of the year. He has bent over backward to accommodate the wholly unBritish Islamic pressure group called the Muslim Council of Britain and can always be relied on the trot out the ‘religion of peace’ and ‘the vast majority of muslims are peaceful people’ cliches.

    Some might say he is playing to his constituency as ROPer’s tend to vote Labour but I tend to think he just doesn’t have a clue. I also think his killing off of the Serious Fraud Investigation has more to do with the holes in the government budget and his total lack of scruples than his dhimmitude.

  60. says

    Source = BBC

    Blair: “Our relationship with Saudi Arabia is vitally important for our country in terms of counter-terrorism,”

    This is a palpably insane statement given Saudi funding of madrassas and mosques around the world in combination with their funding of islamic pressure groups like CAIR.

    No doubt it is the result of some ‘realist’ (read fantasist) assessment that the entire Arab peninsula is full of vipers but the house of Saud is pretty weak now and thus exploitable.

    Still, the US parrots the same rubbish on this score.

  61. says

    The BNP are a racist party if you take Nick Griffin at his word.

    Posted by: Alex at December 15, 2006 10:13 AM

    What words are those Alex, please elaborate.

  62. says

    Hear hear AIG,

    It is the same old tired story self loathing white Euroethnincs whos world view has been so distorted by liberalism & multiculturalism that they cant muster up the moral courage to defend their own cultures & identities.

    To do so is to somehow turn into the ultimate evil….a Nazi.

    Sad.

  63. says

    “WHY is a “nationalist” party automatically perceived as a “Nazi” party”?

    I am GLAD AIG, you asked a pertinent question.
    How can any culture dream of coexisting with an inimical and predatory one?

  64. says

    Alex

    Source = BBC

    Blair: “Our relationship with Saudi Arabia is vitally important for our country in terms of counter-terrorism,”

    ……and thats why we protect islamist / fundamentalist arabs in the UK who are openly critical / want to replace Chez Saud with something equally sinister.

    Whilst my human rights are under threat in the UK, Blair and his acolytes championed the HRA but don’t appear offended to work with a nation who to quote:

    http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61698.htm

    The following human rights problems were reported:

    • no right to change the government
    • infliction of severe pain by judicially sanctioned corporal punishments
    • beatings and other abuses
    • arbitrary arrest
    • incommunicado detention
    • denial of fair public trials
    • exemption from the rule of law for some individuals and lack of judicial independence
    • political prisoners
    • infringement of privacy rights
    • significant restriction of civil liberties–freedoms of speech and press, assembly, association, and movement
    • no religious freedom
    • widespread perception of corruption
    • lack of government transparency
    • legal and societal discrimination against women, religious and other minorities
    • strict limitations on worker rights.

    And thats just a summary!

  65. says

    Rudekid

    A marvellous piece of satire – and like all good satire, bitingly true. I’d like to see you write more – it’s needed.

  66. says

    Posted by: km

    Greek Gurl please qualify you statement with facts, in all the debates that have taken place on JW regarding the BNP no one has shown that the BNP is racist. How are the BNP’s policies any diiferent from say Israel which has an ethnocentric nationalist policy towards Jews, I dont here anyone calling them racists. In fact it is a sensible position for maintaining a cultural identity over many generations, particularly when you live in a small geographic area and are surrounded by people who would wish you harm.

    If you are going to come on here throwing about accusations please back it up with facts rather than just your feeeeeeelings.

    The British National Party leader, Nick Griffin, is a hardline fascist. Convicted for inciting race hate, he denies that the Holocaust ever took place and believes that Jews are conspiring against white British people When Nick Griffin attended Cambridge University to study law his involvement in extremist politics grew. By 1978, he was the national organiser of the NF.

    In 1989, he left the NF and formed the International Third Position, a fanatically Catholic fascist group. The ITP campaigned against Coca Cola, McDonalds, urbanisation and “Zionism” His involvement did not last beyond a few years. In 1991, after a failed business venture, Griffin went his own way

    In 1995, Griffin joined the BNP. He began to edit The Rune, an anti-Semitic quarterly. He also announced that the BNP should prioritise denying the Holocaust to schoolchildren. He earned a two-year suspended prison sentence for his sick views on the Holocaust. In 1998 he was found guilty of inciting race hatred at Harrow Crown Court for denying that the Holocaust ever took place.

  67. says

    islam is evil but it seems some people are using the war on islam as a excuse to hide there racism and they say they support bnp becuase its anti islam yes it is anti islam but its also anti jewish anti non white its like saying to support the nazis because people hate islam it makes no sence to me islam and nazism are the same and the bnp leader has defended nazism

  68. says

    Previewing your Comment
    islam is evil but it seems some people are using the war on islam as a excuse to hide there racism and they say they support bnp becuase its anti islam yes it is anti islam but its also anti jewish anti non white its like saying to support the nazis because people hate islam it makes no sence to me islam and nazism are the same and the bnp leader has defended nazism

    Posted by: Greek Gurl at December 15, 2006 07:32 PM

    What a load of old tosh.

    Please provide one quote where the BNP has said that it defends nazism.

    As a devils advocare for the BNP who now lives in Israel, how dare you try and tarnish me with an anti-semetic club as a means to promulgate your own multi culti agenda.

    Posted by km at December 15, 2006 11:16 PM

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    WEll, it appears that many of us have had Muslims push in front of us, but watch it or else they will say we hate them, poor dears…
    We were out at tea one night at a buffet meal where you serve youself, and my daughter was elbowed out of the way by a Muslim woman. It was so blatant as this woman could just have gone around her to get the food that she wanted. My daughter was so supprised that she did nothing, she stood back while she and the muslim men who ahd now joined her, served themselves. When she came back to the table she said that you take your life in your own hands over there.. now this was 15 years ago before we knew that there was a problem with these animals…
    I feel that as our governments are so stupid and know nothing about Islam that the people themselves will have to force the governments to do something. No good changing governments as they are all asleep.

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    posted by KM

    What a load of old tosh.

    Please provide one quote where the BNP has said that it defends nazism.

    As a devils advocare for the BNP who now lives in Israel, how dare you try and tarnish me with an anti-semetic club as a means to promulgate your own multi culti agenda.

    why are you asking me that are you blind or just stupid? cant you read what i typed about nick griffin how he deined the holocuast in the rune stone magazine if that isnt defending nazism then i dont know what is.

    and i have nothing against mulitculturalism america is mulitcultural it was made on mulitculturalism islam is the problem not mulitculturalism it seems people like you are just racist and hate other races and just want to use the war on islam to hide your racism and justfy youerself by supporting the bnp