Because all land that once belonged to the House of Islam belongs by right forever to the House of Islam. Aaron Hanscom reports in FrontPage (thanks to Mackie; news links in the original):
Earlier this year a jihadist document calling for the liberation of so-called occupied territories and issued by the al-Qaeda-linked group Nadim al-Magrebi was posted on the Islamic extremist website Alansar. In most European capitals, where the cult of Palestinianism reins supreme, such demands are often met with approval since the occupied land in question is usually Israeli. But this time the statement addressed Spain—not Israel. It warned of a “holy war against the infidel Spanish state which has occupied the two cities.”The two cities in question are Ceuta and Melilla, Spanish enclaves on the North African coast which Spain gained control of nearly 500 years ago. Melilla, with a population of 64,400, is home to 26,400 Muslims; Ceuta’s Muslims number 27,000 out of a population of 71,500. The Spanish newspaper El Pais reports that Muslims will become the majority in the next decade.
Demographics, however, don’t pose the only threat to Spain’s future. This month 11 Islamist radicals, ten Spaniards and a Moroccan, were arrested in Ceuta for planning to stage terrorist attacks in the country. (Two of the brothers of Hamed Abderrahaman Ahmed, the one-time Guantanamo prisoner who was eventually exonerated by a Spanish court, were among those arrested.) The seven suspects later detained by Judge Baltasar Garzon were charged with belonging to the Salafia Yihadia terrorist group which forms part of the al-Qaeda network in North Africa. In a statement Garzon said that the group had considered stealing weapons and explosives from a military base and carrying out an attack during Ceuta's annual fiesta. Sources claim that at least one member had already written a suicide note. The investigation of the group which began in March of 2005 also revealed that the individuals detained were in contact with two Spanish soldiers of Moroccan origin from whom they hoped to obtain explosives and strategic information.While the revelation of the terrorists’ plans was shocking, the fact that such planning took place in the border town of Principe Alfonso was not surprising in the least. The fact is that Principe has become a veritable caldron of Islamic extremism over the years. In their paper titled “Favorable situations for the jihadist recruitment: The neighborhood of Principe Alfonso (Ceuta, Spain),” Drs. Javier Jordan and Humberto Trujillo of the University of Granada detail the full extent of jihadist activity in the town.
Resembling the combustible suburbs of Paris, Principe is basically off-limits to the National Police and Guardia Civil except in emergency situations or raids because of the risk officers face when entering the town. Recently the local police office and its lone police car were burned. Not only are ambushes of police cars common in Principe, but emergency calls are frequently made in order to trap police officers. The resulting chaos has led to a situation where even the city buses can’t run safely.
The only authority in Principe comes from Islamic extremists who are intent on imposing their Salafist interpretation of Islamic law. For example, boys are routinely castigated for playing games with girls on the street. Jordan and Trujillo suspect that ‘moral squads’ which intimidate or attack girls who don’t wear the veil or men who drink alcohol in public may already exist.
Many Muslims in Principe blame its poverty on the Catholic dominion of the city. Such rhetoric incites hatred for Spain and its Catholic traditions and helps explain why shouts referring to the ‘Intifada of Ceuta’ are often heard during the ambushes of police cars.
It might be easier to conclude that this disturbing scenario is inevitable in a ghetto close to Morocco’s border—but unlikely in the rest of Spain—if the quest to reconquer all of historic Al-Ándalus were not continuing full-speed ahead. Not willing to accept the bargain that the Spanish electorate thought they were making by electing the appeasing Socialists to power in the aftermath of the Madrid bombings, Islamists remain determined to attack the entire country. Since 2004 at least eight terrorist attacks have been thwarted, while in 2006 alone there have been more than 50 terrorism related arrests. And now Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, who assured voters that the withdrawal of Spanish troops from Iraq would make their country safer, must explain to his countrymen why another group of fighters from Iraq are back in Spain.
A story appearing this month in the Spanish newspaper El Pais reported that jihadists who gained combat experience in Iraq are returning to Spain to prepare attacks in Europe. In Iraq these holy warriors worked with the late Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the one-time al Qaeda leader in Iraq and a central figure in the Madrid bombings. Mariano Simancas, deputy director of Europol, issued this warning: “They are the new Trojan horse of Al Qaeda and its satellites on our territory and they are already preparing themselves.”
The question is whether Spaniards are preparing themselves for the inevitable struggle against Islamic extremism that faces them. Years of looking the other way while terrorists attacked Israel definitely haven’t helped prepare them for the fight ahead. Spaniards could do worse than heed the words of former German foreign minister Joschka Fischer, who warned that if by any chance Israel were to fall and be defeated, the next in line would definitely be Spain.
i suggest spain surrender!
america will follow!
What a disgrace-I am sick and tired of reading about how vast areas of European cities are ceded by default to this scum. There is no excuse for this at all. If a government cannot or will not ensure the security of its people and cannot or will not defend its borders then that government
has violated the main reason why there is government at all and it should be removed by whatever means necessary. Europe-let your police do what they're trained to do and take back your cities!
But Spain has already surrendered, look who they voted for, a serial appeaser who is hell bent on doing as much damage as he can before people get wise to him.
There is no excuse for this at all. If a government cannot or will not ensure the security of its people and cannot or will not defend its borders then that government
has violated the main reason why there is government at all and
"""it should be removed by whatever means necessary."""
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
>>> and islam has just proposed to do just that!
for all interested parties:
France is having a two for one christmas sell on white flags!
"""it should be removed by whatever means necessary."""
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
>>> and islam has just proposed to do just that!
Posted by: thndrbang1 at December 22, 2006 12:06 PM
Point well taken!
France is having a two for one christmas sell on white flags!
Posted by: thndrbang1 at December 22, 2006 12:12 PM
Better deploy the police-they won't stop rioting Muslims but they can control the stampede for those flags!
There is no excuse for this at all.
Yes, there are several excuses for this, IFL....
Liberalism
Socialism
Communism
Defeatest attitudes
Bipolarism
Multi-Culturalism
Politcal Correctness
Stupidity
The European Union
Self Loathing
Loss of the Christian Belief System
Shall I Continue?
Europe is not going to wake up...And when they do, it will be to late...by then, we Americans will have to once again bail their sorry asses out of the Islamic abyss...That is if we here in the U.S. don't wind up there ourselves....
Oiz
Oiznop-
You're right. I should say that there "SHOULD NOT be any excuse". These people did vote in the current useless government in place of a good one worthy of the name. Your list reads like one of diseases and rightly so. Thoroughly depressing.
Spain, these are your special thanks for withdrawing your troops from Baghdad, the capital city of the Caliphate.
Of course it's so extremely politically incorrect to say that even some members here may object - but this is the only solution to the problem : White natives of Europe, have more babies!
Oiznop, a lot of people in Europe have woken up, you just don't hear them, if you think that the surrender merchant elite speak for a lot of the European people, think again, more and more people are getting it and are bloody angry.
There is however a feeling of helplessness, but that is starting to change, at least I think so...
Oiznop, a lot of people in Europe have woken up, you just don't hear them, if you think that the surrender merchant elite speak for a lot of the European people, think again, more and more people are getting it and are bloody angry.
For the sake of western civiliztion's survival, I sincerely hope you are correct, Daffersd....If your statement is true, why then are citizens of the European Democracys voting in these appeasment weenies???....Is it because they like their government cheese???..Are the politicians running on one platform, and showing their true (marxist) colors when they get into office???....Give me a reason to believe you, because, if what you say is true, it's a small minority that feel that way....At least from where I am standing.....
"Spaniards could do worse than heed the words of former German foreign minister Joschka Fischer, who warned that if by any chance Israel were to fall and be defeated, the next in line would definitely be Spain."
So NOW they worry about Israel? How many of these same European governments voted in the UN for the resolution equating zionism with racism?
(Was Germany in that bunch?) Suddenly they worry that Israel might fall? They're full of it.
Do Germans think they're on the far side of Islamic hatred, that it will have to work its way across Europe before it reaches them? It's in their backyard in the former Yugoslavia. What are they doing about it? Have fun, guys!
I'm sorry Daffersd, but like the "peaceful" Muslims, the "angry" Europeans have yet to show themselves. Unless and until they take action, their very existence is nothing but wishful thinking on the part of us infidels. The few brave (and some of them departed) Europeans, such as Theo Van Gogh, do NOT a majority (or even an influential minority) make.
Every other street-name in Islamic countries from north-Africa to Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan is called 'Al Andaluz'...
The Mohammedans will never forget that land, once conquered, is and always remains Islamic. Osama bin Laden made that clear in several speeches, and every musulman I have met in the last 30 years has clearly stated that 'Spain is Islamic...'
With the nut-root- Zapatero government in charge in Al Andaluz, Ceuta & Melilla will be handed over after the next attack. Mark my words!
And the next attack is as certain as the Amen in a church...
Unfortunately, Sheik yer'mami has no song (yet) re Al Andaluz, but there might be one in the making soon...
Meanwhile, listen to 'Zarqawi' and comment:
http://sheikyermami.com/2006/12/19/zarqawi/
In Sweden,the socialist party was defeated recently to give way to a new ,more conservative government,for the first time in 30 years.
Germany has now a conservative prime minister,and soon France will probably have a conservative president.
New immigration laws have been introduced to the Netherlands and Denmark...
Europe is slowly and reluctantly waking up,they know they have to,in order to survive the islamic tsunami.
One of the most popular websites in France is recruiting and organizing an increasing number of french patriots who are willing to stand up for their country
http://www.france-echos.com
Is it going to be too late ??! we`ll see.
adela:
Too late.
.Oiznop...If your statement is true, why then are citizens of the European Democracys voting in these appeasment weenies???....Is it because they like their government cheese???..Are the politicians running on one platform, and showing their true (marxist) colors when they get into office???....
Unfortunately, it appears as if in the last election, we Americans didn't do much better. We even voted in one of the scumbags(albiet in one of the far northern, very blue states) and are about to let that treasonos b*st*rd swear his oath of office for the US House on the quaran. Just because a boatload of libs talk like they are hawks don't make it so.
The Anti-Jihadist Creed…
http://politicsofcp.blogspot.com/2006/12/anti-jihadist-creed.html
The Spanish need to say this over and over until it sinks in.
Oiznop,
I agree with you completely. However you should also add "Secularism" and "Relativism" to your list. The idiot Zapatero is the epitome of what is wrong with "Post-Christian" Europe.
The article states "Many Muslims in Principe blame its poverty on the Catholic dominion of the city. Such rhetoric incites hatred for Spain and its Catholic traditions and helps explain why shouts referring to the ‘Intifada of Ceuta’ are often heard during the ambushes of police cars."
What else can we expect when the Prime Minister of Spain also openly despises Catholic traditions. Remember, this creep refused to meet the Pope and is an open ally of the jihadists in their war on Christianity.
i suggest spain surrender!
america will follow!
Posted by: thndrbang1
America will never surrender,the government can do what it wants,but the American people will not surrender.
In Sweden,the socialist party was defeated recently to give way to a new ,more conservative government,for the first time in 30 years.
Germany has now a conservative prime minister,and soon France will probably have a conservative president.
New immigration laws have been introduced to the Netherlands and Denmark...
Europe is slowly and reluctantly waking up,they know they have to,in order to survive the islamic tsunami.
One of the most popular websites in France is recruiting and organizing an increasing number of french patriots who are willing to stand up for their country...
I like the sound of these things, but if it's anything like Great Britian where the Conservative Party is giving in, that my dear friends is NOT good....In GB, the three parties are Left, Lefter, and Leftest!......
Oiz
What else can we expect when the Prime Minister of Spain also openly despises Catholic traditions. Remember, this creep refused to meet the Pope and is an open ally of the jihadists in their war on Christianity...
What kind of a pig would refuse to meet the Pope???...Jesus, even Castro met the Pope, and he's the lowest of the low!......Wake up Spain....You guys are going to live (or die) to regret it!.....
@czar--Unfortunately, it appears as if in the last election, we Americans didn't do much better. We even voted in one of the scumbags(albiet in one of the far northern, very blue states) and are about to let that treasonos b*st*rd swear his oath of office for the US House on the quaran. Just because a boatload of libs talk like they are hawks don't make it so.
The people of that district up in Minnesota who voted in that guy need to be smacked...Thanks to their "open mindedness" and "multi-cultural liberal bull $%*T, we now have this problem.....I just hope that congressman/sentator (can't remember which) from Virginia who is staring this situation down will stick to his guns.....Here's the story here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014506.php#comments
Oiznop,
What website is that? Do tell, I had no idea the French were allowed to use the internet. Also **** the Spanish dhimmis, we can’t afford to have weak kneed allies that will desert us when it gets too difficult.
Patriot8, you got that right!
i suggest spain surrender!
america will follow!
Posted by: thndrbang1
America will never surrender,the government can do what it wants,but the American people will not surrender.
Posted by: Patriot8 at December 22, 2006 02:08 PM
God Bless you, Patriot8! I'm with you 110% on that! Long Live the United States!
it is not surprising that jihadist would want to liberate Spanish territory after all, Moorish Muslims, had overrun Spain for several centuries before Spanish forces kicked them out in 1492 and Moslems do suffer under the delusion that once a land has being overrun by Muslims in Muslim eyes, and thereafter is Muslim land
“It is not surprising that jihadist would want to liberate Spanish territory after all, Moorish Muslims, had overrun Spain for several centuries before Spanish forces kicked them out in 1492 and Moslems do suffer under the delusion that once a land has being overrun by Muslims in Muslim eyes, and thereafter is Muslim land.” Islamakapigeaters
I have news for them but I want it all back and I’m not stopping until that goal is achieved, in spades. Have they driven me to extremism? You bet they have. I don’t have any tolerance for anyone who picks on the weak, period.
God Bless you, Patriot8! I'm with you 110% on that! Long Live the United States!
WOW,never had anybody say that to me before,thank you but i was just saying the obvious.all the mo's out there can think what they wanna think of America(we really dont wanna fight,(we wish we never had too)by polititions,but they dont understand what the people will do not to be told how to live.All they gotta do is see what we did in WW2,but an even bigger proof of what we are able to do when pushed to it,is to look at the Civil War,and that was against each other!!!if we can be like that to keep ourselves together,what the hell we gunna do to somebody else?and we didnt have 10% of the toys of war we got now.islamic law has NO CHANCE here.sure we have apeasers,and the "might" get some shit changed for the worse,but it will only get so far,then they will be haveing tea with the nazi's in hell.
“War does not determine who is right — only who is left.”
~ Anonymous
“The peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism: 'Our country — when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right.'”
~ Carl Schurz
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure.”
~ Thomas Jefferson
The people of that district up in Minnesota who voted in that guy need to be smacked...Thanks to their "open mindedness" and "multi-cultural liberal bull $%*T, we now have this problem
I live in that district (though didn't vote for Ellison of course).
The only threat to a Democrat running in this district is the Green party canditate. Ellison being black, his only chance at losing would've been saying nice things about George Bush. He could've been caught on videotape snorting cocaine off a dead hooker and still likely won.
The whitewashing of his past by the Star Tribune didn't help, though I suspect his extremist Muslim ties cost him some votes- just not nearly enough.
If Muslims follow the same strategy of getting "progressives" nominated in areas that always vote Democrat, we're likely to see more of the same.
The political left needs to be reminded that Muslim ideals make those of the Christian right look like those of Hugh Hefner.
“There are two visions of America. One precedes our founding fathers and finds its roots in the harshness of our puritan past. It is very suspicious of freedom, uncomfortable with diversity, hostile to science, unfriendly to reason, contemptuous of personal autonomy. It sees America as a religious nation. It views patriotism as allegiance to God. It secretly adores coercion and conformity. Despite our constitution, despite the legacy of the Enlightenment, it appeals to millions of Americans and threatens our freedom.
The other vision finds its roots in the spirit of our founding revolution and in the leaders of this nation who embraced the age of reason. It loves freedom, encourages diversity, embraces science and affirms the dignity and rights of every individual. It sees America as a moral nation, neither completely religious nor completely secular. It defines patriotism as love of country and of the people who make it strong. It defends all citizens against unjust coercion and irrational conformity.
This second vision is our vision. It is the vision of a free society. We must be bold enough to proclaim it and strong enough to defend it against all its enemies.”
~ Rabbi Sherwin Wine
I lived in Spain during the March bombing in Madrid and the subsequent elections in 2004. I witnessed how the leftist party turned the bombing into a opportunity to turn the entire country against the PP (the conservative "People's Party"). In the three days between the attack and the elections (in which no campaigning is allowed because they are days of "contemplation") the PSOE (socialist party) used the bombing to swing the vote in their favor. It was disgusting. Before the bombing, Zapatero knew that he was going to lose and that the PP was going to win. He only won because of the lies that his party spread in the days following the attack. Now, he is causing irreparable damage to a beautiful country. My husband is Spanish and he is just horrified by what the PSOE is doing.
There is a saying in Spain, "Zapatero, a sus zapatos." That means the shoemaker needs to go back to making shoes (and stop messing up the country)!
IN DEFENSE OF PATRIOTISM
PATRIOTISM IS NOT FOOLISHNESS
By: Edward L. Daley
http://www.etherzone.com/2005/daley051305.shtml
"There is a saying in Spain, 'Zapatero, a sus zapatos.' That means the shoemaker needs to go back to making shoes (and stop messing up the country)!"
-- from a posting above
"Shoemaker, stick to your last.
Or spanished:
Zapatero -- a tus zapatos!"
[Posted by: Hugh at September 23, 2004 03:27 PM]
Or perhaps better than "shoemaker" would be "cobbler": Cobbler, stick to your last.
Of course it's not, patriotism is the single most important attribute in the world we now live. If you don't have it you will be relegated to the dustbin of history. If there ever was a people that will fight to the end it is Americans and America like thinkers. I am proud to be an American, surrounded by such great individuals. Long live America and death to all who oppose her.
In California Zapatas(Espanol) are well known thongs( for the feet) worn on the beach.
Well, seeing how Israel's people FAR preceeded the Arab nations, I say by default ALL land is Israel's and Israel should declare holy jihad on anyone that thinks otherwise! http://sacredscoop.com
We should hope that it's not too late, El Cid can relate to the readers of this blog, that in his many trips to España, he has spoken to many who are forming and building the resistance to Jihad, Dawa, Sharia and demographics.
Resistance is growing in España, most people are awake but afraid to act.
Soon that may change, look forward to the next elections
God help the resistance in Spain. Long live the reconquistadores!
God Bless the United States of America! Stop all immigration now!
Viva El Cid!
Yes.... Long live El Cid
Long live Jan Sobieski
Long live Charles Martel
Long live Robert Spencer
Long live all heros who have and continue to resist the jihad!!!!
isn't Charlton Heston dead?
Ah yes, occupied territories. I wonder how long before 'right of return' is claimed?
stupid me, friend.
My above post needs deleting as well.
How PC do we get? Even the anti-jihadists are doing the PC dance. Good lord, do you not see what is happening? Don’t you wonder why the really good posters of the past have left? Figure out where you stand there is no middle ground. Where can we go to talk truth w/o having to change our names with added numbers? Same old same old as in the mmm(mindlessmassmedia). You had a new inovative way of fighting jihad, but as with the pols, you have drifted from those who support you.
tgusa
How true, celebrity breeds contempt (for "support").
isn't Charlton Heston dead?
Not yet, Alzheimer's Disease.
Off topic:
Abu Bakar Bashir to sue for damages
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Ceuta has an interesting history for several reasons. It was from Ceuta that the Iberian Peninsula was originally invaded, or rather, it was at the request of the Visigothic governor of the city of Ceuta that king Roderic (Rodrigo) was forced to fight a civil war in which the muslim conqueror Tariq played a decisive part. Roderic, who truth be said was far from being a nice guy, was defeated (two wings of his army switched sides just before the battle started) and the long period of Muslim occupation soon started.
It was far from the period of Islamic tolerance so often repeated by foolish 19th century romantic ignorants. There were at this point very few Muslims in the peninsula, and they had to tolerate the natives to avoid a massacre. On another level, the Muslim light cavalry sacrificed armour for speed, ideal for raids but terrible in a medieval battlefield. In the middle east, some centuried afterwards, the Templar knights fought and often defeated the same kind of Muslim cavalry. They would always fight an enemy that was less than 3x their own number as a matter of principle, and that is indicative of the diference in quality between the European armoured warrior and the North African raider.
Back to the Iberian Peninsula, just a few years after the invasion, Muslim cruelty started to be felt and rebellions soon started . The Christians started uniting againts the common foe, and the Muslim rule in the Peninsula began the long and steady decline that ended in 1249 (southern Portugal) and in 1492 (southern Spain).
It was in Ceuta that the first sucessful invasion of Muslim North Africa began: in 1415 a huge Portuguese army captured the city when it was practically asleep. During the XV century several other Moroccan coastal cities were captured by the Portuguese: Tangiers, Arzila, Larache, Alcácer-Ceguer, Anafé, and several others, to a point that severaly north African pirates who were losing their bases in the atlantic.
Even before kicking the Moors out in 1492, Spain soon followed the Portuguese example and began its expansion to North Africa. Melilla was part of this expansion, and it was conquered in 1497 by Spain (there was a tacit agreement that Portugal would conquer the atlantic coast and leave the mediterranean part of Morocco to Spain).
The only reason why this policy was not carried out fully was because by that time the Portuguese were busy building an empire in the Indian ocean while the Spaniards were conquering and exploring most of the Americas. By comparison, it was foolish to use resources in Morocco.
Ceuta remained Portuguese until 1640, when Portugal (from 1580-1640 under the rule of a Spanish king) "forgot" to ask for the city back as part of the peace treaty. Frankly, we did the right thing: the city costed a fortune and there was never any return on the investment. The Azores and Madeira were largely settled so that the agricultural production and the sugar cane could support the garrisons in North Africa.
To rap things up, both cities have been under European rule for several centuries (Ceuta for almost 600!!!) and yet they are supposed to be Moroccan land?
Wikipedia is worth what it is worth, but by all means, is this Islamic land?
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceuta
I think not!
These territories clearly appear to be the front lines in the inevitable battle for the Islamicization of Europe!! When will these spineless Euros wake up and smell the pungent, acrid stench of Arab/Magreb coffee?!?
During the 18 months when I lived in the USA, the mayor of a small town just outside of Philadelphia firebombed an area where there were troublemakers. If I am correct about the location we actually passed through that area when trying to reach Philadelphia, and I remember going through an area where it was definitely lock your doors and keep driving.
The reason that I mention this incident, is that I now think that this mayor did the right thing and this is exactly what should happen in Paris, Ceuta and anywhere else where there is a Muslim menace (meaning that a no-go zone has been created so that law enforcement officers cannot do their duty). It is also the reason that I now endorse the Israeli action of bulldozing the houses of terrorists and murder-suicide bombers.