More attacks on Ashura ceremonies. Sunni/Shi'ite Jihad Update. "On Shiites' holiest day, 44 dead in Iraq," by Kim Gamel for Associated Press:
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Assailants struck Shiite worshippers in three Iraqi cities Tuesday, killing at least 39 people in bombings and ambushes during the climax of ceremonies marking Ashoura, the holiest day in the Shiite calendar. In apparent retaliation, mortar shells slammed into predominantly Sunni neighborhoods in Baghdad hours later, killing at least five people and wounding 20, officials said.
Tens of thousands of Shiites Muslims converged on the holy city of Karbala — where the 7th-century battle took place that cemented the schism between Sunnis and Shiites — beating their chest and heads to mark the death of the Prophet Muhammad's grandson. The entire city was sealed off, all vehicles were banned, and pilgrims were searched at numerous checkpoints, a day after the Iraqi army said it had foiled a plot by a messianic Shiite group to storm the nearby city of Najaf.
The bloodiest attack Tuesday occurred when a suicide bomber blew himself up among a crowd of worshippers entering a Shiite mosque, killing 19 people and wounding 54 in Mandali, a predominantly Shiite city northeast of Baghdad and near the Iranian border.
To the north, a bomb in a garbage can exploded as scores of Shiites — most them Kurds — were performing rituals in Khanaqin, a majority Kurdish city also near the Iranian border. At least 13 people were killed and 39 were wounded, police Maj. Idriss Mohammed said.
"I was participating in Ashoura ceremonies with my son and all of a sudden the bloodshed hit," Abdul Jasim Hassan said, holding his 11-year-old son, Hussein, whose right leg was bleeding.
Nawal Hasson said she pleaded with her husband not to go to the ceremonies but went with him when he refused to stay home.
"I had a feeling that something might happen, because terrorists are always targeting Shiites," she said.
The two bombings occurred on the edge of Diyala province, not far from Baqouba, where fighting has raged for weeks between Sunni insurgents, Shiite militiamen and U.S.-Iraqi troops.
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Last year's Ashoura commemorations were largely peaceful, but suicide bombers killed 55 Shiites in 2005 and twin blasts killed at least 181 people in 2004.
Are we really wasting Americna lives and armaments on making these ceremonies SAFE? Isn't that what precipitated one of our helicopters crashing recently? Two men died in that crash!
I say let the moFoes sort themselves!
And let alla sort them out later...
WHY are we giving them money if they culd be working instead of performing their odd nihilistic rites?
Are Brazil and Germany holding out our hands to the international community for our Carnival Festivities every year?
"I had a feeling that something might happen, because terrorists are always targeting Shiites," she said.
HALLELUYAH!!!!
That would mean they'd be targeting themselves.
Let me see if I got this right... muslims are attacking and slaughtering other muslims who are celebrating a holiday commemorating a battle where muslims attacked and slaughtered other muslims.
Man, this must be a doubly holy time of the year for muslims. Let the party begin!
The Muslims seem to have an endless supply of bullets, rockets, and explosives, which may be a good thing.. They have lots of Muslims to use them on...
Islam, the Religion of Peace....they kill you if you don't pray 5 times a day.....They kill you if you are in the mosque....They kill you if you celebrate Muslim holy days....They kill you if you go on a pilgrimage to the Muslim holy sites...They kill you just because they can...
Islam is a thrill kill machine on steroids....
Islam is a Mental Disorder of the highest order...
A large number of explosives discovered by the coalition troops had "Made in Iran" stamped on the packaging.
The billboard said."Come to the ceremonies, It will be a blast!"
The billboard was courtesy of Ahmadinejad enterprises....(why beat your head and chest, when you can have more---Details at 6)
Sunnis and Shiites — beating their chests and heads to mark the death of the Prophet Muhammad's grandson. The entire city was sealed off, all vehicles were banned, and pilgrims were searched at numerous checkpoints, a day after the Iraqi army said it had foiled a plot by a messianic Shiite group to storm the nearby city of Najaf.
Self flagellation. Banned vehicles. Plots. Attacked cities. Messianic storm troopers. Religiosos gone wild.
You gotta love the Islam. Nobody puts on a geeky sidewhow better than Moslems. Nobody.
610 * 623 * 732 * 1066 * 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001
While our numbskull elites praise Islam as the paragon of peace, it must be apparent to everybody that violence is Islam's principle sacrament. This "religion" is literally about violence.
While our numbskull elites praise Islam as the paragon of peace, it must be apparent to everybody that violence is Islam's principle sacrament. This "religion" is literally about violence.
As one of our famous globalist elites charged after having been satisfied sexually while sitting at the desk in the Oval Office of the White House, with blue plumes of cirgar smoke wafting about his head; "Deny it! Deny it! Deny it!"
Rember, "I say so; therefore, it is."
Islam is sickening; just sickening.
In commemoration of this joyous holiday, I would like to present to you the following website:
Happy Ashura Children of Islam!
It is a shame when a ritual bloodbath is marred by violence.
Trouble is, the "all human life is precious" crowd will insist that our troops attempt to stop this holy killing. Conyers, Pelosi, and others will insist that we somehow caused it and try to stop it. Of course it is all the President's fault, according to them; that is. Their insistence that we withdraw will be tempered by the videos of wailing mothers.
We need to get out of the way. Put this show on TV; saturate the airwaves. After a several thousand more Sunnis and Shiites are dead, people might understand what Islam is all about.
Islamic democracy, the stuffed ballot box is topped off thirty round magazine.
What will happen when the US pulls out of Iraq? More of same. If infidels aren't around they just turn on themselves 1000 fold. It will be a blood bath.
From Pelayo: "Conyers, Pelosi, and others will insist that we somehow caused it and try to stop it. Of course it is all the President's fault.."
When politics has no scruples, just raising money, keeping office and forever blaming the other guy, & no guts, simply fuels jihad. Bin Laden's impression of America and all the west was apparently right. These jihadists are licking their chops. They see them winning. Every time they see a dhimmi protest in Washington like the recent one, they lick their chops some more. They are united even more, where we are divided. Who is winning?
Just one of the responses from the BNP site
regarding Tory leader David Cameron`s statement
that "Radical Islam" is the BNPs mirror image.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1337
4) Mosque leaders to ensure that preaching remains within the law and is consistent with the values of this society...
The BNP intend to make it a criminal offence for the owners of a mosque to allow their premises to be used to disseminate radical preaching. In the event of such activities the councils will be mandated and required by law to close down those mosques. Only English will be allowed to be the language used in the mosques. Foreign Imams that preach in non-English languages will be deported.
apparently security was so tight, the bombers still got in..could it be the security really did not do a good job or possibly looked the other way?
BY the way, were the security people wearing Iraqi police uniforms?
Maybe the Iraqis can change their ceremony to mimic the running of the bulls, instead of a bull running through the crowd, the Iraqis could use a pickup with a large calibre machine gun blazing away in the bed of the truck...
They would enjoy the thrill of the Religion of Peace.....
Aladdinsane57, it seems like a good idea to me. Arafat was notorious for saying one thing in English and saying the exact opposite in Arabic. Imams do the same thing.
The BNP may or may not be the British equivalent of America's John Birch Society, but there is hope. We need some angry Anglo-Saxons to take control.
And the Imam sang:
"And when we get behind closed doors...."
So where are the pious frauds of CAIR decrying this mass slaughter of Muslims. How about the Muslim world? Shiites are only 10% of the Muslim world and the Sunni Muslim world could care less when they are slaughtered.
But let an American, Israeli, or European disrespect a Muslim in some way and CAIR and other Muslim agitators will go crazy. They only care when the infidel impinges on "Muslim honor"
Mass murder of Shiites in the most cowardly way is a non-issue for the hypocritical Muslims. Fouad Ajami (Lebanese Shiite) wrote about this last year in the WSJ
The Muslims seem to have an endless supply of bullets, rockets, and explosives, which may be a good thing.. They have lots of Muslims to use them on...
While we dhimmi fools feed the bastards! They gort money for guns.. ergo they have something of value they can barter for food, etc.
Give islam NO QUARTER!!
STAMP OUT pigslam!!!!
Let us no longer waste Western lives for the SCUM of the earth.
PLEASE, Englanders I beg you.. VOTE BNP!! The politicians have to be taught a lesson!!!
Onece the first Western country goes radical the rest will follow. And the islamos will begin to feel the icy CHILL!
Heart of Darkness
From Zarqawi to the man on the street, Sunni Arabs fear Shiite emancipation.
BY FOUAD AJAMI
Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:01 a.m.
The remarkable thing about the terror in Iraq is the silence with which it is greeted in other Arab lands. Grant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi his due: He has been skilled at exposing the pitilessness on the loose in that fabled Arab street and the moral emptiness of so much of official Arab life. The extremist is never just a man of the fringe: He always works at the outer edges of mainstream life, playing out the hidden yearnings and defects of the dominant culture. Zarqawi is a bigot and a killer, but he did not descend from the sky. He emerged out of the Arab world's sins of omission and commission; in the way he rails against the Shiites (and the Kurds) he expresses that fatal Arab inability to take in "the other." A terrible condition afflicts the Arabs, and Zarqawi puts it on lethal display: an addiction to failure, and a desire to see this American project in Iraq come to a bloody end.
Zarqawi's war, it has to be conceded, is not his alone; he kills and maims, he labels the Shiites rafida (rejecters of Islam), he charges them with treason as "collaborators of the occupiers and the crusaders," but he can be forgiven the sense that he is a holy warrior on behalf of a wider Arab world that has averted its gaze from his crimes, that has given him its silent approval. He and the band of killers arrayed around him must know the meaning of this great Arab silence.
There is a cliché that distinguishes between cultures of shame and cultures of guilt, and by that crude distinction, it has always been said that the Arab world is a "shame culture." But in truth there is precious little shame in Arab life about the role of the Arabs in the great struggle for and within Iraq. What is one to make of the Damascus-based Union of Arab Writers that has refused to grant membership in its ranks to Iraqi authors? The pretext that Iraqi writers can't be "accredited" because their country is under American occupation is as good an illustration as it gets of the sordid condition of Arab culture. For more than three decades, Iraq's life was sheer and limitless terror, and the Union of Arab Writers never uttered a word. Through these terrible decades, Iraqis suffered alone, and still their poetry and literature adorn Arabic letters. They need no acknowledgment of their pain, or of their genius, from a literary union based in a city in the grip of a deadening autocracy.
A culture of shame would surely see into the shame of an Arab official class with no tradition of accountability granting itself the right to hack away at Iraq's constitution, dismissing it as the handiwork of the American regency. Unreason, an indifference to the most basic of facts, and a spirit of belligerence have settled upon the Arab world. Those who, in Arab lands beyond Iraq, have taken to describing the Iraqi constitution as an "American-Iranian constitution," give voice to a debilitating incoherence. At the heart of this incoherence lies an adamant determination to deny the Shiites of Iraq a claim to their rightful place in their country's political order.
The drumbeats against Iraq that originate from the League of Arab States and its Egyptian apparatchiks betray the panic of an old Arab political class afraid that there is something new unfolding in Iraq--a different understanding of political power and citizenship, a possible break with the culture of tyranny and the cult of Big Men disposing of the affairs--and the treasure--of nations. It is pitiable that an Egyptian political class that has abdicated its own dream of modernity and bent to the will of a pharaonic regime is obsessed with the doings in Iraq. But this is the political space left open by the master of the realm. To be sure, there is terror in the streets of Iraq; there is plenty there for the custodians of a stagnant regime in Cairo to point to as a cautionary tale of what awaits societies that break with "secure" ways. But the Egyptian autocracy knows the stakes. An Iraqi polity with a modern social contract would be a rebuke to all that Egypt stands for, a cruel reminder of the heartbreak of Egyptians in recent years. We must not fall for Cairo's claims of primacy in Arab politics; these are hollow, and Iraq will further expose the rot that has settled upon the political life of Egypt.
Nor ought we be taken in by warnings from Jordan, made by King Abdullah II, of a "Shia crescent" spanning Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. This is a piece of bigotry and simplification unworthy of a Hashemite ruler, for in the scheme of Arab history the Hashemites have been possessed of moderation and tolerance. Of all Sunni Arab rulers, the Hashemites have been particularly close to the Shiites, but popular opinion in Jordan has been thoroughly infatuated with Saddam Hussein, and Saddamism, and an inexperienced ruler must have reasoned that the Shiite bogey would play well at home.
The truth of Jordan today is official moderation coupled with a civic culture given to anti-Americanism, and hijacked by the Islamists. In that standoff, the country's political life is off-limits, but the street has its way on Iraq. Verse is still read in Saddam's praise at poetry readings in Amman, and the lawyers' syndicate is packed with those eager to join the legal defense teams of Saddam Hussein and his principal lieutenants. Saddam's two daughters reside in Jordan with no apologies to offer, and no second thoughts about the great crimes committed under the Baath tyranny. Those who know the ways of Jordan speak of cities where religious radicalism and bigotry blow with abandon. Zarqa, the hometown of Abu Musab, is one such place; Salt, the birthplace of a notorious suicide bomber, Raad al-Banna, who last winter brought great tragedy to the Iraqi town of Hilla, killing no fewer than 125 of its people, is another. For a funeral, Banna's family gave him a "martyr's wedding," and the affair became an embarrassment to the regime and the political class. Jordan is yet to make its peace with the new Iraq. (King Abdullah's "crescent" breaks at any rate: Syria has no Shiites to speak of, and its Alawite rulers are undermining the Shiites of Iraq, feeding a jihadist breed of Sunni warriors for whom the Alawites are children of darkness.)
------SNIP------
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007326
More from the cult of death worship and human sacrifice
Maybe George Bush is an evil genius. He removed Hussein, the man who was able to maintain calm in Iraq and preside over a doubling of its population. He is flooding the streets of Iraq with small arms. He is forcing Shia and Sunni to co-mingle and rub old rivalries raw. The Shia will become a nuclear power. And in 2008, the mandate will come to leave. All done in the name of the American ideal.
Could be a 2015 Oliver Stone movie; Stone might title it ‘Checkmate’.
(taking off the rose-colored glasses...)
So, in the not too distant future, we will see "peaceful" ceremonial processions like this on the streets of London and New York. A nice holiday atmosphere which the kids will like. They might even see a bomber explode himself. Good cultural diversity education for the whole family. The BBC and CNN will be delighted to have the spectacle right on their doorsteps.
Not one American life was worth losing as the Muslims celebrated their bloody festival. Unfortunately, a number of American lives were lost trying to support the Iraqi soldiers. And, when the next 'holy day' in one of the numerous 'holy cities' in Iraq takes place, more American lives will be lost. However, when Easter rolls around for Iraqi Christians, they will be on their own, probably canceling all processions and most church services as they await attacks by numerous Muslim neighbors of all stripes, Sunni, Shiite, Kurdish.
unhunhhh......mutters allahu-akbar, opens a second Carlsberg of the day and takes first big bite out of pulled-pork bbq sammich.......
Maybe George Bush is an evil genius. He removed Hussein, the man who was able to maintain calm in Iraq and preside over a doubling of its population. He is flooding the streets of Iraq with small arms. He is forcing Shia and Sunni to co-mingle and rub old rivalries raw. The Shia will become a nuclear power. And in 2008, the mandate will come to leave. All done in the name of the American ideal.
Could be a 2015 Oliver Stone movie; Stone might title it ‘Checkmate’.
(taking off the rose-colored glasses...)
Posted by: pez
Pez i've actually asked myself the same thing. Because I was trying to figure out WHAT on Earth could anyone sane want in iraq - except the oil. I've considered anything from he wanted to show he's a tough guy to that he really believes that he can bring "Democracy to the Middle East" - NATCH!
I figured he can't be THAT stupid and even if he were - Dick Cheney ain't. They HAVE to know what we know - that islam is evil and unreformable.
So WHAT are they REALLY doing in Iraq?
I still haven't figured it out.
If he really wanted to set them up against one another.. when would be the time to "see the Light" and blame the ensuing Chaos on the Dhimmicrats?
He is setting up the "next President" I heard Hillary screaming already!
I could buy that if he didn't keep allowing more and more of them in here. And letting a Dimocrat president in office will result in over a million Iraqi "refugees" - complete with their bloody rituals and their stoneage mentality.
We need to first CONTAIN islam. Then ROLL BACK islam next.
wishful thinking with Bush and it's about to get worse.
"I had a feeling that something might happen, because terrorists are always targeting Shiites," she said.
Stupid me. I thought terrorists always target Christians and Jews and Buddhists and Hindus and agnostics and animists and on and on and on.
Stupid me. Stupid Rest of the World.
Those naughty terrorists attacking the poor innocent Shytes.
How could anyone thing anything else?
alahuf*kbar
MeanieMo wrote:
"PLEASE, Englanders I beg you.. VOTE BNP!! "
Hmmm, 'Englanders'!? I smell a German telling us to vote for a white supremacist anti-semitic political party, using concern over Islamic terrorism as a smokescreen.
Sounder said:
"What will happen when the US pulls out of Iraq?
More of same. If infidels aren't around they just turn on themselves 1000 fold. It will be a blood bath."
SWEET JUSTICE!
Nawol Hasson said
But unfortunately, this celebratory scene was interrupted when the bombers struck, with the joyous Muslim-on-Muslim bloodshedding replaced by tragic Muslim-on-Muslim bloodshedding.
Remember, they are just like us, they want the same things we do.
MeanieMo wrote:
"PLEASE, Englanders I beg you.. VOTE BNP!! "
Hmmm, 'Englanders'!? I smell a German telling us to vote for a white supremacist anti-semitic political party, using concern over Islamic terrorism as a smokescreen.
Posted by: schmege
In fact you smell right you LiEberal. The rest of your statement is horseshit. Come at me with something racist now.. please.
It's liEberals and islamics like YOU who have me realize that there is NO LONGER a political choice.
So go make my day.. let's hear you get racist. it's waht you liEberals do best - in your own not-so-subtle ways. Always nice when you can do it to someone who you don't expect will fight back.
I'm here, mo-troll..
For those in the Arab world to live better, we must exit the stage. It's only fair!
Posted by: StillFedUp
If ONLY the leftist liEberals would lead by example and leave the rest of us out of it.
44 dead in attacks on Shi'ite ceremonies in Iraq
More attacks on Ashura ceremonies. Sunni/Shi'ite Jihad Update. "On Shiites' holiest day, 44 dead in Iraq," by Kim Gamel for Associated Press:
That's a start - but not early ENOUGH! Get our troops out now.
Hey, schmegel-shmuck.. you mo-troll.. I am here.. do you have something you'd like to say to me?
You're better off in paki-land.. or in the Pigdom of sowdi arabia..
allahu affanculo!!
58 Shiite civilians slaughtered in cowardly sneak attacks on a Shiite holy day. This is the true Islam and this is how Muhammad fought wars. This is how Muhammad assassinated people only difference being he had to kill one person at a time with his sword instead of mass killings via car bombs and other bombs
More innocents murdered in the name of Allah, the phony god that never was and never is
More innocents murdered in the name of Allah, the phony god that never was and never is
Posted by: dennisw
Innocents? I thought they killed shiytes...
pez sez--"Maybe George Bush is an evil genius" Wow! Could it be that easy--Just let them kill each other.
I have long thought that a good plan might be to pull most of our troops out to safe enclaves in the desert; leave a couple of thousand in the Green Zone for security, have some special forces help the Iraqi army and then send in a couple of trucks full of body bags.
Also it could be very much about oil and Halliburton and also dont forget, its personal with our President. Saadam put out a hit on his dad after 1991.
And after all of this killing , they want us to take them seriously that this is what the world needs to become, to be godley,nothing but a cult it proves!!!!
"I was participating in Ashoura (bloodsheding)ceremonies with my son and all of a sudden the bloodshed hit,"
Bloodshed on top of bloodshed ceremonies...what could be more Islamic?
Maybe he will figure out what pain really is, if he doesn't want more pain JUST keep screwing with the middle class AMERICAN!!!YOU AIN'T SEEN PAIN YET!!!
"I was participating in Ashoura ceremonies with my son and all of a sudden the bloodshed hit," Abdul Jasim Hassan said, holding his 11-year-old son, Hussein, whose right leg was bleeding.
In other words, "I had just finished gashing my son's scalp with a knife, when all of a sudden the bombs went off." Which bled more, Hussein, your leg or your scalp? I'll bet you're looking forward to next year! Maybe then, the Sunnis will blow your head completely off, before Papa can get at it with his knife. Get smart, kid, tell Papa to go knife himself if he wants, but to leave you out of it. You can stay home and watch the parade on television.
Im sure the 6 year old boy that screamed will never forget that traumatic event as his OWN DAD sliced his head open. So much for protecting your kids.
Since they have big familys with 8 or 10 kids, wht not decapitate 2 or 3 and put their heads on lances and do it right instead of just slicing their scalps. Dont they really want to honor old Hussein the RIGHT way?? Dont you think Hussein would be honored by a couple of hundred kids heads on lances waving in the breeze.
Talk about child abuse; this takes it to a whole new, sick, perverse level!!!
Of course, they can hardly wait until little Moe blows himself up some day!
What a bunch of child molesters!!
Any society that believes is ritual bloodletting is a sick society...Islam is a thill kill machine and its believers believe in the sight of blood..(they certainly see to it that a lot of blood is spilled)....If the Muslims cannot kill an infidel, they will kill each other...sick, sick people..
DebV,
Excuse me, but they wipe the blades with alcohol before they cut their children?
Isn't alcohol haram?
THE need of the time is an USA-Europe-Israeli-Indian axis (or call it Christian-Jews-Hindu axis) to battle the cancer of Jihad becasue if not controlled now it will spread and spread and one day it may be too late.
In short all these religion dont hate each other, but Islam hates all these three religion and uniting is neccasry to fight the cancer