Canada: Baby-stabber refuses to grant wife sharia divorce

yes its true some muslims here in Toronto, Canada also (about 600, 000 muslims in this city of 5 million) were recently harping about'sharia law' but 'only for us muslims in Canada' blah blah--you know what happens next if they get their wish of course. they have 11 mosques here (and more than that in Quebec I think)---God help Canada if these idiots get any power. (And I mean the real God not that moon cult god 'allah')

Let me get this straight, this butthole lives by sharia to the point where he won't let his wife divorce him but he's a druggie? Is this for real?
I'd like to see some "holy man" justify THAT with a Koran!

But somehow, I'm sure it can and would be done.

This cowardly piece of filth should never see the light of day as a free man. My bet is he'll be released within 24 months. allahu-akbar, ya'll!

" The man testified yesterday he has no intention of granting his wife a divorce in Canada under sharia law.

How's that again? Sharia law in Canada? "

I've never heard of this. but i think he was saying that "Sharia" trumps Canadian Law in his opinion. so under Sharia, which is NOT Canadian law , he will not allow his wife a divorce. it's well known that Islamists are encouraging Muslims everywhere in the world to NOT obey and recognize the laws of their adoptive lands.

Concerned Canadian

yes he was. But believe it or not a group of them here in Toronto were on CFRB stating they wanted shiaria law (but only for their community)--many muslims called in to condemn that --they are just as scared of sharia law as nonmuslims hahhaha. Its truly a disgusting set of 'laws'--they are nowhere close to enacting any sharia law in their communities. This aint Paris where certain areas paris police cant even travel in because they are unofficially 'shiaria' controlled in a sense. Our police would crush them.

Allies - Wow, with 600,000 out of a population of 5,000,000, Islam has alaready achieve critical mass in Toronto the Good. Let's see now, if 5% of that 600,000 are jihad-fanciers, than fasten your seatbelts, and God save the Queen! Sharia, here we come!

you said it MP --personally I will fight them with my bare hands or a hockey stick if I have to. My grandfather from Greece fought Nazis with an old style rifle and when he ran out of bullets he used it as a club and killed 10 of them back in WWII--if he can do that I'll fight these bastards with a hockey stick if I have to. most of them are dirt poor and on welfare but like those 17 born here trying to bomb Toronto --some jihadis are here. I spent lots of time/money sending copies of politically incorrect guide to islam to many of the local politicians. Also I have spoken to a few landlords who I know have lots of muslims in thier buildings in east toronto but who happen to be Eastern European christians (no friends of islam) and they all agreed heartily. Why? Because they 'get it'. I'll be dammed if I let these evil scumbags take over my country. See you in the frontlines MP!

God Save The Queen!
God Bless America!
God Bless the Free World!

What muslim in their right mind would want sharia? A lot of them left their backasswards countries because of that. Hopefully the sane muslims take the right side when push comes to shove.

Also, I hope my relatives in Oakville (that's near Toronto, and I know there are lots of South Asians) don't get taken by surprise if jihadists do something nasty.

Concerned Canadian,

The business about Sharia...Sharia law with respect to divorce is practiced at mosques (I think that's widely acknowledged here). It's just that Sharia law is not "officially" recognized by the government (whatever an Imam says religiously -- regarding marriage/divorce -- isn't recognized by the civil court system). And vice versa. Thus, a person could get a legally recognized divorce through a provincial court -- BUT, without the Imam's blessings (ie, the Imam's approval) the civil divorce won't be recognized by Muslims. Isn't it the same with Catholics and divorce and re-marriage?

Can you imagine street muslim warfare in the streets of Toronto? I hear you allies but hopefully you government would step in with military force long before anything like that happends like you told me PM Trudeau did with the war measures act back in the early 1970s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7_a2wa2dd4

Yes yankee boy --Trudeau brought in the military becasue a terrorist group in Quebec was trying to do all sorts of nasty things as you know. Trudeau brougth in military army with automatic weapons and TANKS--this aint Paris after all.

Yankee_boy , thanks for that Video. Wish we had a Politician in the West with the balls to call a spade a spade like Trudeau . i remember seeing pics of him giving the Middle finger to hecklers . lol

I love this quote:

(Trudeau)" Well there's a lot of bleeding hearts around who just don't like to see people with Helmets and Guns. All i can say is go on and bleed. It's more important to keep Law and Order in this society then to be worried about weak kneed people who don't like the looks of.... (Reporter) " At any Cost ? How far would you go with that, how far would you extend that? "

(Trudeau) " Well just watch me "

Great stuff.

This is the sort of Retoric Politicians should be using against the Islamists in Europe.

"Isn't it the same with Catholics and divorce and re-marriage?"

Catholics can get a civil divorce, but in the eyes of the Church the couple is still considered to be married. They can't remarry within the Church, nor are they allowed to receive certain sacraments IIRC.

that said Catholics can also petition to have their marriage annulled. this basically says it didn't happen. one of the Kennedy clan did this to his wife after they divorced and she wasn't very happy about it.

lots of Catholics divorce. it doesn't carry the same stigma as it did say back in the 1950s and 1960s

this poor Muslim woman needs to forget about her sharia divorce and get a civil divorce.

THE ALLIES SHALL WIN, MP,

I assume you meant about 600,000 Muslims in Canada, some 350,000 of which live in this city of 5 million (greater Toronto).

In other words, Canada is roughly 2% Muslim, whereas Toronto is roughly 7% Muslim.

Not Paris indeed, but not reassuring either.

Hmm, if my husband attacked me and my children in such a way you can bet his body wouldn't be found. Simple case of disappearance 30km off the coast over the side of the family fishing boat. There's nothing like burley to bring up the fish. In Australia this is the obverse of muslim honour killing: treat the girls badly and you're fishbait, mate.

"The man also told the prosecutor he didn't think he needed treatment for violent behaviour, saying he is normally a peaceful person."

.....except when he behaves like a Muslim....

To The Allies Shall Win:

Loved your post - "I'll fight these bastards with a hockey stick if I have to..."

How Canadian is that ?! Tell you what, once you've beaten them into submission with the hockey stick, we can hold them down and force feed them Canadian Club whiskey and back bacon, aye ?

But seriously, the dhimmi premier of Ontario did make some noise about implementing sharia law in Ontario. Insane! But the loudest protest against the idea came from the Muslim Canadian Congress, specifically the muslim WOMEN. Wonder why ?

Allies shall win, please tell me that your numbers are way off about 600,000 Muslims in Toronto.

I live on the west coast and I can't believe how many I see here, and I know Calgary is loaded witnessed by their construction of North Americas largest Mosque.

This is an enormous concern for everyone, if that many were actually in Toronto I do believe we would be witnessing problems on London and Paris levels.

We're not there yet, but if we don't wake up we'll be there fast. We also can see the propaganda that Canadians like to pay for in the CBC funded show little Mosque on the Prairie. How messed up are things here that we pay for programs that are designed to make us feel bad about our perceptions, "you see Muslim's can laugh they are like you and me, nothing to fear here." Nothing but crap to make us guilty about being concerned.

As for Sharia in Canada we know that it must be practised already similarly to how it is Britain. Ontario came very close to implementing it, but as this article states the people themselves are looking to Sharia over the Queens law, what's it going to take for Canadians to see the danger before them?

Niv

Allies - Love your fighting spirit. Both the Italians and Germans received quit a surprise in Greece druing WWII. The huge casualites suffered by the fallschirmjaeger (including fierce civilian resistance) in the airborne invasion of Crete shocked Hitler so much that it was the last large parachute drop that he conducted. If need be, I can supply some hardware that can give you a little more reach than a hockey stick. Start militating to get your gun ownership rights restored north of the border! I've got friends in Kingston, Montreal, and Sackville (NB), and make it up there on an annual basis. All the best, MP

Allies, I have a huge concern here. It's about the background of a significant amount of us on this site. I am Greek, my brother blogs on this site as well and we discussed this more than once. We seem to be mostly Greek, Jewish or Eastern Christians on this site more than any other group.

The problem? The message isn't getting out to enough people that should be opening their eyes. I'm glad you took the steps that you've stated about buying books and sending them to politicians, keep it up the message has to get out to more people.

We have been the people who get it because we are the ones on the front lines since day one, this is why the Brits and French and others in the west are so slow to figure it out. They have been too busy telling Greeks to get over it, Turkey's a great place to holiday and they're not bad, it's Greeks who are sore losers. They're too busy calling Jews criminals and criticizing them for hard measures that ensure their own survival, this is what we're up against.

Unfortunately Canadians fall into the latter category, we think everything is rosy, once they see how we live they'll want to live the same way.
Absolute crap, no idea of what the world and we are facing.

Niv

Niv - Im an American with Scottish, Welsh, and Dutch roots. Our battle with the jihadists is difficult for several reasons. You are absolutely correct in thinking that the Israelis and front-line Europeans like Greeks, Serbians, Bulgarians, etc. bring a perspective gained from bitter experience with the Ottomans and their coreligionists. British, Spanish, Italian and French folks typically view islam from their historic role as colonial overlords. Germans have been cowed by their role 60 years ago, and lack the will to risk appearing as "racists." The folk memories of Algerian corsairs raiding the coasts have faded. The whole colonial relationship can be used to generate guilt leading to concessions leading to weakness of the will. As post-moderns, we also have a debased religious system. In the past Christianity could serve as a prophylaxis against islam. This bulwark has virtually disappared in most of Western Europe. In my view, we need to: 1.) speak up at every opportunity. 2.) demand that our politicians enforce the existing law 3.) refuse to surrender our individual freedoms 4.) Remember that porpaganda is like marketing -repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat 5.) Forge alliances with as many allies as possible 6.)Be optimistic -truth is on our side, and given sufficient time, truth will prevail.

pak152: "this poor Muslim woman needs to forget about her sharia divorce and get a civil divorce."

but this is the problem -- even if she gets a civil divorce, it won't be recognized as a divorce (in religious, Sharia terms). She has to get the Imam to approve it -- and that won't be done unless the husband consents, and the husband refuses. So even if she got a civil divorce and returned to Lebanon, she'd still be considered "married" -- and could be arrested for abducting her children(that's taking her kids away from their father).

And about those so-called "stats" -- the stats are from Statistics Canada, and I figure they're bogus. I suspect the number is much greater than 2 or 3 percent of Canada's population. I've posted this in the past -- I think the number quoted as being around 3 percent is way, way off. The city I live in claims to have the second highest number of North American Indians in western Canada -- yet I see far, far fewer Native Americans, and lots, lots more Muslims (the hijab, the burkas, the black bags -- some sections with Arabic only signs, etc.) Anyway, it is NOT 3 percent... believe me. They'll probably do another census and then they'll be shocked (they were shocked not long ago by the last census which saw a 150 (? from memory, could be more or less, but it was very high) percent increase in a very short amount of time, and the stats Can people were all left amazed/stunned by the increase).

Why in God's name does she want to go back to Lebanon .. and what's preventing the judge from giving the husband a heave ho back to Lebanon (or wherever)?

MP, I swear what you just wrote above is what I've been saying to my co-workers for years now. You're bang on, never shut up, never be bullied and never cower in face of persecution, it's up to people like us to stand up and gain momentum against this evil.

Mother Ecclesiastica the numbers I looked up are in the CIA website which anyone can view, they claim that 1.9% of Canadians are Muslim. This equals approximately 627,000 Muslims. That is not as big a problem in Canada as it is in other countries because of our size. Logistics play a role, but that percentage has been lethal in other countries like Thailand and the Philippines, so lets not kid ourselves and keep a close eye on how things shape up here.

Niv

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MARTIN
Not Paris indeed, but not reassuring either.
Posted by: Martin

Martin, a sobering thought indeed. Thats why I am not backing down one inch about this (like alot of you folks out there)--Canada, USA and other free world countries deserve to be stood up for. Freedom is not free they say, its so true. Beside my grandad i know a few vets from WWII over here in Toronto and one particular man a true FIGHTING IRISH fellow told me how when his friends at his high school here in East York (suburb of Toronto) learned what hitler wanted to do they all signed up en masse to go over there and fight. Im gearing up for that except it might be on our own doorstep. Ironically, the high school this vet was referring to was my OWN high school (im out of university now so my high school days are a ways back). There is a plaque of all the guys who went over and fought (half did not return). I mean I was schooled here this is my town these guys who did that --they are brothers and Ill be dammned if Im going to take their sacrifice (or the sacrifice of all the allied soldiers) for granted!

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IMNODHIMMI
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi
Tell you what, once you've beaten them into submission with the hockey stick, we can hold them down and force feed them Canadian Club whiskey and back bacon, aye ?

Sounds good to me friend! A WHOLE LOTTA bacon! I read somewhere on this site that soldiers would pour pigs blood on themselves when fighting muslims --it gave them a distinct advantage since that much "unclean" pig substance (and blood noless!) meant allahs sure punishment on the muslim touching it.
Heres a true story: my dad had a friend once a shiite from India who visted Toronto (way back in the Reagen years!) This was far before 911. The guy came to my dads home and once he explained what they believed my dad fed him cooked pork. The guy loved it and asked what was what i ate? My dad (excellent poker face) said "Why my friend that was a small cooked goat"
Anyway he had come to our home to ask in my fathers help in sponsering his family. (My father had hired him as a customer service rep at our company). Of course once the naive muslim told my father about his beliefs --my dad did not sponser his family. "I dont people like THAT in Canada", he said. "we came here and worked hard--he wants to bring his family here and bring Canada into islam"

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NIV

hi my friend!

The CIA numbers seem to be the most accurate I agree... I think the numbers (unfortunately) are fairly close to the truth. I actually got them from doing a general search on religion stats for canada online (but i know them anyway because they are also reported in the wikepedia for toronto) the pop of Islamists was about 6.7 % in 2001 thats about 335 ooo --it wrongly reported Toronto as less than 5 mill because it didnt count for greater toronto area. In 2007 that number has DOUBLED not only because of their breeding rates but Canada has been accepting huge numbers of islamists since then.

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MP
! I've got friends in Kingston, Montreal, and Sackville (NB), and make it up there on an annual basis. All the best, MP

Posted by: MP at January 25, 2007 01:32 PM

thank you kindly! And ill take you up on that offer if it comes to that. i was in the reserves here in canada.

By the way NIV and MP I am of Greek bloodline but with Scottish highlights on my dads side. We traced it: during the final byzantine period the byzantine emperors hired alot of HIGHLANDER SCOTS as hired soldiers. Well in those days you couldnt commute back to good old Glasgow for a lass to marry so one tribe in particular settled in Asia minor and Greece and on my dads side we come from them --on my moms side we are Spartan all the way back. Soooo lets see bezerker Scots on one side and Spartan Greek on the other side --makes me a very very baaaad enemy to have (and an anger that would bring tears to groundskeeper Willy). It also explains why my first cousins on my dads side (all girls) are fair skinned with red hair and green eyes AND freckles (not a greek trait!). After 500 years the scottish side on my dads side shows thru. So i feel connected to all of Europe and of course to Canada. Id die for Canada. And Id do the same for America too--God bless the Americans --the sweetest neighbours one could ever wish for. They came with their millions of tanks and gum chewing crackerjack eating quick triggered soldiers and helped us sweep the nazis back.. The thing is Nazism does not run as a "default" in the German soul. Germans if you scratch below the surface are really Catholics and Lutheren Europeans.They got fooled by hitler but they werent 'nazis' all the way thru (like the group of them that tried to murder hitler). But what happens when you scratch below the surface of a muslim? more islam --its corruption goes all the way to the soul (because of that promise of whores..er..virgins etc in allahs paradise --and fear of allahs hell)

French, English, Dutch, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Danish, American, Canadian, Aussie --what binds us together is that almost inbred belief in freedom and democracy that the free world was built on, as well as the judeo-christian ethic (without which SCIENTIFIC progress would have been curbed --read Aquinas and his discussions with muslim leaders on that in the history books --they decided to pick and choose what they would accept from Aristotle and other passed on knoweldge --while the europeans accepted it all).

MP you remember the movie RED DAWN?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn

Thats what I feel like right now--like those teens in that movie. The fight will not be too different if Islam gets a good enough foothold. Who can deny that is EXACTLY what it is like in areas in Paris! I am angered that the Paris mayor just didnt send in the military (with tanks!) and just say "THIS is Paris not Mecca you shall obey our laws or you shall be crushed under them. Vive la France." I keep remember the national guard in Los Angelos after the riots they came in in full force. Some criminal thugs tried to attack them but they (being an army and not police) simply destroyed all opposition. I remmber the story of one crazed rioter who drove his car right at some guardsman --they let with full automatic weaponsfire. End of problem. THATS they kind of mindset you need to deal with such OBVIOUS attempts at disturbing peaceful democratic rule. We are not talking about 1960s protesters here--chanting and smoking weed. These maniacs in Paris attacked and burned and looted buildings thousands of cars and people. That to me is an act of war.

God bless you all. I cant help but feel this is the early 30s though friends...islam multiplies like rat hordes ..and if they were fun loving buddhists etc I wouldnt care. But Islam is its own political entity a movable nation looking to dominate and a whole lot more wicked than the Nazis.

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Mother Ecclesiastica

Many are young yes--like those 17 who tried to bomb various toronto sites here (including city hall)--if anything the younger ones (born and raised here !!) are worse. Their idiotic lust of fabled whores...er...virgins in allahs paradise drove them enough to organize a well thought out plot. how different from other immigrant children (and lets be honest mostly christian children!) in this country who form a bond with their nation. I have yet to meet a muslim who can honestly say he is proud to be a canadain --and I mean MEAN it. The one who helped the mounties with the 17 (its on the show the fifth estate documentary --i dont know if you get it in the states its like 20/20), said his FIRST loyalty was "to Islam. I didnt want these 17 to give Islam a bad name so I helped out the authorities". That says it all for me anyway.

Again God bless you all!

Please DONT budge an inch. As the old spartan adage went when they fought off the persians:

STAND YOUR GROUND.

ALLIES: "The one who helped the mounties with the 17 (its on the show the fifth estate documentary --i dont know if you get it in the states its like 20/20), said his FIRST loyalty was "to Islam. I didnt want these 17 to give Islam a bad name so I helped out the authorities". That says it all for me anyway."

And that same cleric told the CBC that these young people were "brain washed". As simple as that. Instant explosive disorder!