Hatred has nothing to do with it. It is not a manifestation of hatred to want to defend oneself against forces that have declared explicitly many times that they are dedicated to our destruction. And it certainly has nothing to do with hating "people who don't worship the way we do." Has this sanctimonious blowhard ever noticed that no one seems to be filled with Buddhismophobia, or Hinduphobia? Might that be connected to the fact that Buddhists and Hindus haven't flown any planes into any buildings -- and justified that action by means of their religious texts as they have been traditionally understood by believers?
"Carter urges Americans to abandon fear, hatred," by Richard Hyatt in the Ledger-Enquirer, with thanks to DFS:
ATHENS, Ga. - With the zeal of a Baptist Sunday School teacher, Jimmy Carter ended a conference on his presidency Sunday morning by telling Americans they should not fear and they should not hate...."We are developing an ingrained hatred for people who aren't Christians," said Carter, a Sunday School teacher since he was 18 years old.
Unwarranted fear of terrorism is behind these feelings, he said.
"The distortion that we are about to be destroyed makes us suspicious of those who don't worship the way we do," he said. "And our country has no reason to be afraid."...
Sure. It's all a matter of translation, you see, just like with the Qur'an. When they say, "Death to America!" they mean, "Gee, we think America is just swell!"
Meanwhile, the assembled idiots agreed that Carter's disastrous presidency would have been a brilliant success were it not for those mean old Iranian hostage-takers, whom we do not hate for their non-Christian status. Carter's utterly inept and pusillanimous handling of that hostage crisis seems to have gone unmentioned:
Tom Johnson, former president of CNN, said Carter should be judged by his body of work, not the disappointments of his final year in the White House."That obscured four years of achievement," Johnson said.
In 1980, Americans were held hostage in Iran and Carter was held hostage in the Oval Office. That was also the year that ABC gave birth to "Nightline," a program that counted down the number of days the Americans had been locked up.
"Iran was the drumbeat," said Chris Matthews of MSNBC's "Hardball" and a former speechwriter in the Carter administration.
Yeah, it was our hatred that caused those two airliners to dive into the World Trade Center towers at hundreds of miles and hour, with full fuel loads. We caused that, our hateful bad attitudes impelled the Moslem activists to slaughter us. They were left no choice.
Boy, for an antisemite of historical proportions, this redneck sure does like to pop his mouth off.
Please, Christains do not hate all other religions because they can recognize Godliness in those other faiths, even if some Christians believe salvation is through Christ alone. Confucious was born almost 200 years before the Muslim Prophet and his sayings build up to the Golden Rule.
And is it any wonder why Buddha was born rich and died poor and that same Prophet of Islam was born poor and died rich?
Meaning, those founders practiced humility, chastity, non-violence and poverty.
Mohammud?
Carter is a blessed idiot and a bit of a scumbag as well, as much as I hate to say that of a former American president.
"What one does not wish for oneself, one ought not to do to anyone else; what one recognises as desirable for oneself, one ought to be willing to grant to others."
--Confucious.
Notice, he does not say what a "Confucion" does not wish for himself...
"Unwarranted fear of terrorism is behind these feelings, he said"
UNWARRANTED!...Evidently the former President does not follow current events of the world...Muslims have attacked the US at home and abroad. Muslims are attacking everwhere and killing innocent civilians every day.Muslims have infiltrated the American homeland, they have been caught plotting further death and destruction on American soil, they pronounce daily "Death to America," they now have members in our Government, they are taking over several cities in the US, they are taking over in France, Great Britain, Spain, and several other countries, they are attacking the very cultures of all the countries they reside in, they are forcebly indoctrinating the Muslims way of life into our schools at all levels, they use our own system of laws and jurisprudence to attack our own citizens, and they trying to dominate through the barrel of the gun.
Dhimmi Carter never met a terrorist he did not like. On TV he boasts about the peace accords he brokered; he apparently never bothered to followup to see just what a disaster has occurred because of it. Of course, he never really studied the problem beforehand, he was mostly just trying to appease the Muslims.
Had anyone else been president in 1979, the American Embassy takeover by Iran would not have lasted 444 days.
Dhimmi Carter is a disgrace to the very ideals this country was founded. He apparently never took the ideal of the Constitution, The Declaration of Independence, or the Bill of Rights to heart.
Perhaps he has a secret Muslic cleric guiding him, he could be a closet Muslim--he sure acts like he is.
Dhimmi Carter is a sad excuse for an American...
How about those who have an ingrained hatred for people who ARE Christians, Jimbo? They're not Jews or Buddhists or Hindus or Sikhs or Rastafarians or Jains or Bahai or Confucians or Taoists or...is the message coming through, mate? Or do I need to say the "M" word?
One of Dhimini's Many Neville Chamberlain Moments
Dhimini managed to make things worse for Sudan blacks by cutting off their arms supply from Uganda. Neutrality in the face of genocide. Not very impressive.
Statement by Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter on Signing of Sudan Peace Accord
9 Jan 2005
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Kay Torrance
404-420-5129
ATLANTA.....It is with great joy that I congratulate the government of Sudan and the Sudan People's Liberation Movement/Army on their peace accord signed today. The road to this agreement has been long and hard, but finally the people of Sudan have a chance to realize their great potential for a future of peace.
I commend President Omar Bashir and Dr. John Garang, who, with their supporters, have made the difficult compromises necessary to end this long, bloody war. I also applaud the tireless work of the IGAD mediation team, supported by many international partners, for demonstrating what persistent diplomacy can achieve.
Today there is cause to celebrate. Tomorrow the hard work continues. The challenge now is to implement this agreement and to move with determination to address Sudan's many remaining challenges, including the tragedy in Darfur. All Sudanese must become part of this peace, through security, development, elections, improved health, and respect for human rights.
Decades of strife have caused persistent disease, hunger, and displacement. The international community must support peace generously and maintain strong interest if there is to be a lasting end to the suffering of the Sudanese people. Leaders in Sudan at all levels must work together in the spirit of compromise to rebuild the country.
An essential aspect of strengthening communities and rebuilding ordinary everyday life in Sudan will be giving all the people of Sudan the basic human right of access to health care. Carter Center-assisted health programs working in Sudan to help prevent the unnecessary suffering caused by Guinea worm disease, river blindness, and trachoma look forward to reaching areas previously inaccessible due to conflict. Sudan has about 50 percent of all remaining cases of Guinea worm disease, and finishing eradication there quickly is important for Sudan and its neighboring countries.
A stable, peaceful Sudan will be a symbol of success and hope for all Africa and the world.
The Carter Center is a not-for-profit, nongovernmental organization advancing peace and health worldwide. The Center first became engaged in Sudan in 1986 through its SG2000 agriculture program. In 1989, President Carter was invited to mediate between the two parties. In 1995, he negotiated a "Guinea worm cease-fire" that lasted nearly six months, giving international health workers-including the Center's Guinea Worm Eradication Program-access to areas of Sudan previously inaccessible due to fighting. Since then, the Center's health programs have worked continuously in Sudan, maintaining neutrality in the war while working to prevent unnecessary suffering from disease. In 1999, President Carter brokered the Nairobi Agreement between the governments of Sudan and Uganda that led to the re-establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries.
For more information on the Center's work in Sudan, click here.
"Ingrained hatred for people who aren't Christians"? Could he possibly mean his own antisemitism?
Peanut brain MUST be suffering from dementia-he is living in his own fantasy world if he really believes this crap that he's spouting. As a poster once noted a couple of weeks ago-it's too bad Billy was the Carter who died years ago.
tokyobk,
"Please, Christains do not hate all other religions because they can recognize Godliness in those other faiths, even if some Christians believe salvation is through Christ alone. Confucious was born almost 200 years before the Muslim Prophet and his sayings build up to the Golden Rule.
And is it any wonder why Buddha was born rich and died poor and that same Prophet of Islam was born poor and died rich?
Meaning, those founders practiced humility, chastity, non-violence and poverty.
Mohammud?
Carter is a blessed idiot and a bit of a scumbag as well, as much as I hate to say that of a former American president."
One has to remember that what makes the Christian faith special is the fact that recieved in faith that "special ticket" to Heaven, accepting Jesus as Savior, with the forgiveness and the cleansing that His precious blood offers is the most important factor. It is not by living a life of being good, although Christian believers are called to do afterwards.
This can be compared to going with a ticket to see the Super Bowl and just simply watching it on tv. While it is great to watch it on tv from either home or another place where there is a tv, it is even better to see it live by having a ticket get the special exprerience of watching it live.
I just read an excellent, brief compendium of the many and major Jimmy Carter blunders related to the Middle East during his White House tenure in Paul L. Williams's book, Dunces of Doomsday, which recites ten major blunders that brought us the possiblity, the curent threat, of an American Hiroshima.
Jimmy's credibility, never very great among the American people, had to fall of a cliff with the recent staff resignations in protest of his current stupidity.
Still the holier-than-thouness, still the conviction that he need not find out about things because it is just too tedious (all those silly facts about the history of the Middle East, the history of Islam, the history of the Palestine Mandate and its reason for being in that particular sliver of land known to Carter, tendentiously, as "Palestine," the history of territorial adjustments after wars, the history of the actual negotiations and not Carter's imaginary one, between those conducting the Lesser Jihad, that is all of the Arab Muslim states and peoples, and those merely attempting to stay alive (the Jews of Israel), the history and meaning of the Treaty of Al=Hudaibiyya, the history and true meaning of the word "Apartheid" which can be found all over the Middle East -- in Saudi Arabia, with its signs "Muslims" and "Non-Muslims," in Jordan (where selling land to Jews is punishable by death), and everywhere that Islam rules the roost for the Shari'a, the Holy Law of Islam, carries with it the most basic idea of Apartheid -- the unequal treatment of two groups, right down the line. In the Shari'a, those two groups are Believers, and Infidels, and the host of liabilities which non-Muslims are forced to endure causes them, in the true Islamlic state, to exist in a permanent condition of humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity.
Convinced of his own moral superiority, radiating holier-than-thouness, the man who hectored Begin and lived up to his reported remark at the time of Camp David that he was "sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust," and since then dabbling in all sorts of things, including going off on his own to come back, triumphantly, from a trip to North Korea with assurances of "peace" from Kim Chong-Il, the man who failed to shore up the Shah, and sent a letter to Khomeini praising him "as a fellow man of faith" should go down in the history books, along with Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln. But not on their side of any ledger. On the other side.
Carter should ask himself a few questions. All over Western Europe immigrants have been welcomed bearing alien creeds. They include refugees from Vietnam, economic migrants from China and India and sub-Saharan Africa, Filipinos and Ethiopians in Italy, even now some from Latin America, including a large number of Ecuadoreans in Spain, but also Andean Indians. And yet there has not been any significant problem with those Indian Hindus, those Chinese of Confucian or Christian or Buddhist indeterminate or non-existent confession or faith, no problem with those Buddhist or Christian Vietnamese, nor with those black African Christians, nor those Andean Indians. Yet everywhere, in Western Europe there has been trouble with one group: Muslims. Not Muslims from one country. But Muslims from everywhere, and precisely to the extent that they take their Islam seriously. They make demands for changes in the legal, political, and social institutions. They freely declare their support, in some cases for terrorist acts directed against the Infidels, including those in the very countries they now have been allowed to settle in (and one must understand that the results of opinion polls obviously understate the true depth of the hostility of Muslims, many of whom must naturally conceal it when asked their opinion). In every conceivable way, they exhibit a loyalty not to the Infidel nation-state or the Infidels who created and inherited that state, but only to Islam and to fellow members of the umma al-Islamiyya. How could it be otherwise? This collectivist faith, that is far more than a religion but a system of Total Regulation of Life and with it a Complete Explanation of the Universe, is so deeply inculcated, and so reinforced by everything, the phrases used, the shared Islamic history alluded to, the worldview that suffuses everything in Muslim societies, not only in Dar al-Islam, but those recreated in the West -- and even available to those who may appear to have completely integrated into a non-Muslim world, like "Mike" Hawash of Portland, like that child of Iranian exiles in Chapel Hill, like so many others who manage to surprise their Infidel neighbors, "friends," and colleagues with their revealed behavior and attitudes.
A new Murphy's Law: The more money accepted from wealthy Muslims, the more hatred the dhimmi manifests for his own kind. This law is true for John Espisito, James Zogby, Jimmy Carter and many more that JW readers can name.
Attention, all Bush-haters. Just remember, things could be worse. Jimmy Carter. Need I say more?
Jimmy Carter failed his nation and the world by not making alternate fuels a priority like they did in Brazil. If he had done that ONE thing the world would most likely be free of Saudi domination by now.
I would like to see an alternate to oil forced on all drivers, no matter the cost. That is the only way to be free.
Pay now or pay later.
Mr. Johnson's claim that it was only Carter's final year in office with the Iran hostage crisis that did him in, and that the rest of his Presidency was an "achievement," is simply false. In fact, Carter's approval ratings in the polls had sunk to an all-time low shortly before the seizure of the Iranian hostages. The reason for that was accelerating stagflation, which Carter himself had acknowledged was a big problem in early 1978.
Ironically, right after the seizure of the hostages, Carter's approval rating actually rose dramatically, reflecting the natural inclination of Americans to rally around their President in times of crisis. It was only after the crisis dragged on and the hostage rescue mission failed that Carter's approval rating sagged back down again.
It would take far too long to review here all the other things that went wrong during the Carter presidency before the Iran hostage crisis hit, and many of them aren't directly related to Dhimmi Watch's mission anyway. If you can, get an old copy of the two-part documentary "American Experience: Jimmy Carter" than ran on PBS, that ran through all of it.
Unbelieveable....
the scary thing is, I wonder how many others in the democratic party and its leadership agree with him....
This is disgusting. Dhimmi Carter accusing Christians of hate? I mean, isn't that hypocrisy considering that he's been hating Jews with the fervour of Hitler lately?
Worst president in U.S. history: Dhimmi Carter. And he proves he's still worthy of the title by playing it dhimmi style.
What insolence this guy has. You know, the Romans had this tradition called damnatio memoriae which they applied on Roman emprerors they didn't like. I'm of the opinion that Dhimmi Carter deserves a damnatio memoriae.
Tom Johnson, former president of CNN, said Carter should be judged by his body of work, not the disappointments of his final year in the White House.
Johnson doesn't get it-Carter IS being judged by his body of work. It wasn't just that final year that was a mess.
Jimmy Carter is clueless about most things. He is an intellectual lightweight who has never had the vision to lead America.
Mr. Carter has lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of Americans with his latest book that criticizes Israel and yet justifies suicide Palestinian bombers.
Now he is playing the moral high ground with American Christians.
Mr. Carter states: "We are developing an ingrained hatred for people who aren't Christians,"
Does Mr. Carter have any examples to show that we as a larely Christian nation are hating people who aren't Christian?
The Bible doesn't contain passages to hate the non-Christian like Islam.
Muslim tolerance:
V.51: O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who takes them for friends is one of them.
Jimmy Carter is clueless about most things beyond peanut farming. He is an intellectual lightweight who has never had the vision to lead America.
Mr. Carter has lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of Americans with his latest book that criticizes Israel and yet justifies suicide Palestinian bombers.
Now he is playing the moral high ground with American Christians.
Give me a break!
Mr. Carter states: "We are developing an ingrained hatred for people who aren't Christians,"
Does Mr. Carter have any examples to show that Christians are hating people who aren't Christian?
No more erroneous blanket statements from Mr. Carter.
He needs to be held accountable for what he states.
Lastly, the Bible doesn't contain passages to hate the non-Christian like Islam does with non-Muslims ( Jews & Christians ).
Here is an example:
V.51: O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who takes them for friends is one of them.
Hugh:
You've hit the nail squarely on the head in your comment above. Close to 50% of Toronto is non-Caucasian encompassing a large percentage of Chinese, Korean, Indian, Vietnamese, Caribbean and various other ethnic/religious groups. While there may be the occasional race based conflict, there is virtually no religious based conflict among the various Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews or Sikhs. The only religion that seems to jump up for attention and is perpetually whining is Islam. FWIW, my neighbourhood is now predominately Chinese and, bad driver jokes aside, there is no conflict or intolerance shown by any party whatsoever.
As for this statement:
"Tom Johnson, former president of CNN, said Carter should be judged by his body of work, not the disappointments of his final year in the White House."
I wouldn't go there if I were you Mr. Johnson. It seems to be generally accepted that Jimmy was the worst U.S. president in living memory.
New Low! Impossible! Carter's NEUTRALITY on the Sudan genocide cannot be topped. NEUTRALITY in the face of genocide!
Statement by Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter on Signing of Sudan Peace Accord
9 Jan 2005
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Kay Torrance
404-420-5129
ATLANTA.....It is with great joy that I congratulate the government of Sudan and the Sudan People's Liberation Movement/Army on their peace accord signed today. The road to this agreement has been long and hard, but finally the people of Sudan have a chance to realize their great potential for a future of peace.
I commend President Omar Bashir and Dr. John Garang, who, with their supporters, have made the difficult compromises necessary to end this long, bloody war. I also applaud the tireless work of the IGAD mediation team, supported by many international partners, for demonstrating what persistent diplomacy can achieve. (More genocide!!)
Today there is cause to celebrate. Tomorrow the hard work continues. The challenge now is to implement this agreement and to move with determination to address Sudan's many remaining challenges, including the tragedy in Darfur.
The Center's health programs have worked continuously in Sudan, maintaining NEUTRALITY in the war while working to prevent unnecessary suffering from disease. In 1999, President Carter brokered the Nairobi Agreement between the governments of Sudan and Uganda that led to the re-establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries.
Just what I need, advice from a bumbling, USN second-in-command, redneck, failed president, with a giagantic misery index, and facilitator of the modern Islamic state both Sunni (Afghanistan) and Shia (Iran), who now takes bribes from Arabs for his Jew hatred. Perfect.
Please shut up, Dhimma. Please, for my sake.
"If [American voters] choose Gerald Ford or Nelson Rockefeller, either will have my one, absentee-ballot vote. Both are wise and dynamic leaders versed in the art of government and governing and figures of more than sufficient stature to recieve respect at home and abroad. These are salient-- even indespensible-- qualities for any man who takes office as president on January 20, 1977. The four years that will follow are certain to be decisive in making-- or breaking-- the social, economic and political future of the United States of America."
J. Paul Getty
--As I See It--
1976
Correction ex-president Carter... I don't hate the buddhists and hindus I work with. I like them. We go to lunch at Thai restaurants together. I like every kind of non-Christian people I come into contact with... I've worked with Jewish people and love them to pieces. I've worked with a Muslim fellow too. I liked him personally and we solved some problems together.
But I hate Islam - the belief system which concentrates religious/political/legal/social power into the hands of a 'chosen' person or persons. That, ex-President Carter, is what I am developing a deep, ingrained hatred for. ISLAM - not muslims or muslimahs....
It ain't race - it's belief
It aint people - it's the fuckin' ideas in their heads.
Now go away and build some affordable housing in Gaza for the widows and orphans of the shahid, you imbecile! That's all you're good for.
That does it, I'm writing Ex President Carter a letter about these comments and will attach my op/ed 'Sharia vs. the U.S. Constitution' so that, maybe, in the off chance he actually reads it, just maybe ex President Carter will stop and think "it's the ideas we're fighting... not necessarily all of non-Christian peoples."
It's one set of non-Christians... and it's not because we hate them!!!
OT: This is what passes as Islamic scholarship in Germany.
From SPIEGEL ONLINE:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,460559,00.html
Not quite as bad as that Dinesh D'Souza you spent so much time dissecting, but still shallow, flighty and evasive.
from:
http://www.kafirnation.com/myth2.htm
The Jews and Christians were considered evil people because they rejected mohamed as a prophet of god as they knew of the true God and it was rather obvious that he wasn't a prophet sent from Him.
Jesus is the perfect example of love and tolerance
John 8:7. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Muhammed was the perfect opposite:
"The Prophet (Muhammad) said: 'Do not stone the adulteress who is pregnant until she has had her child.' After the birth she was put into a ditch up to her chest and the Prophet commanded them to stone her. Khalid came forward with a stone, which he threw at her head, and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and he cursed her. The gentle Prophet prayed over her and she was buried."
(Hadith No. Muslim 682)
One would think that in common parlance that to respect someone as a prophet would seek guidance in his teaching.
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Therefore muslims who want to follow Muhammed MUST stone the adultress and kill the in the name of jihad for Allah (as good muslims do).
JESUS SHOWED MERCY
MUHAMMED SHOWED HATE
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jeeeeee Mr Carter I wonder why we are developing "hate" for nonChristians? Didnt you see the as they fell seconds after the terrorists shouted ALLAH acbar before slamming the planes into the buildings. Didnt you, you idiot?
oh and by nonChristians I mean ISLAM!
no not islamic "fundamentalists" or "estremists" but just plain little ol' ISLAM.
Jeez Id like to see Carter in a locked room Carter with only the Quran and hadiths for reading material ---the old fart in a room and have only those books there. I bet he would sit in a corner with his eyes closed and his hands over his ears saying :"nononononnonononoo llalallalalala"
sheesh.
Despite Carter's personal faith, which I respect, his worldview has been distorted by the liberal theology which he promotes. This causes him to strain for gnats (supposed Christian bigotry) but swallow a camel (Islamic terrorism and oppression).
Liberal Christianity, liberal Judaism, liberal Hinduism etc. warps one's worldview because it fails to act on the moral absolutes that underpin these religions. It is precisely these moral absolutes that require us act justly to other humans, even those who don't share our faiths.
I write from personal experience in that my own family has devout Christians, Jews, and Buddhists who live together in respect and love without compromising our faiths. Even secularists, athiests, and other non-believers can respect those of faith because of our common humanity. After all, I can't prove to them that God exists and they can't prove he doesn't.
It is the taking of our core values seriously that causes us to live in peace. Our beliefs affirm our basic humanity. The exeption seems to be Islam. Since Islam by nature denies respect to those who are not Muslims, it is the liberal Muslims who are most like the rest of us because they don't let their religion interfere with their humanity, while the devout and practicing Muslim has that warped worldview that is so dangerous.
Carter hits a new low: "We are developing an ingrained hatred for people who aren't Christians"
I'm starting to develop an ingrained hatred for people named Jimmy Carter.
I do hate: I hate the ideology of Islam. It's the rabies of humanity. I DON'T hate Muslims. If a wretch like me could have a change in heart truely understand God's Love, then there is a chance for every human being. Muslims are human beings after all...God help the ones that leave Islam.
Sigh!
Shouldnt the old man be spending more time with his grandchildren, reading them some rhymes and singing songs, instead of wasting his time on explaining Islamist terrorism, of which he doesnt do a great job anyway?
Note to RNC: Must mention Jimmy Carter and the Hostage Crisis in the upcoming Presidential election in 2008.
Note to DNC: Someone make this idiot disappear!
Hitlery may know how to get rid of this guy..
"Carter hits a new low..."
This is becoming a weekly event. Why can't he just go to Gaza and retire already?
Brits who refuse to live as dhimmi's should please sign the online petition calling to BAN SHARIA.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Ban-Sharia/
It is always easy for Carter to say stuff like this when he has been paid millions from the Middle East to push propaganda.
Have you ever noticed that Carter has worked harder for muslims in the last 6 years then he ever worked for Americans in his life?
Has anyone recently seen an Associated Press article about Clinton and Carter getting ready to put together an organization of liberal churches to counter balance the conservative right such as the Southern Baptist Organization?
So when Carter says 'we are learning to hate those that are not Christians' he is speaking only to the Conservative Right. Be prepared for conservative churches and organizations to be infiltrated by liberal operatives, and be prepared for liberal universities that use to be Christian i.e. Harvard, to suddenly start pushing a look alike Christianity. We are going to see alot of media hyped scandals in the conservative churches in the next 12 months.
Also be prepared to see the goverment censor conservative churches all the while encouraging their liberal churches to push their agenda from the polpit while being protected.
Carter hits a new low: "We are developing an ingrained hatred for people who aren't Christians"
Don't say *WE*. Speak for yourself Jimmy-Dhimmi. Yes you *do* hate people that aren't Christians. They're called the Jooz.
It's YOU Dhimmi-jim. It's ALL YOU.
Open wide.. insert foot. Go to Hell.
I'm old enough to remember the "Carter Days".
The best things that came from that period was Paul Volker and Bill Simon. I have my doubts about those two also.
The Carter Days were awful. On top of the economic problems we were having, the self-serving S*B got on the TV channels and told us how "Americans were in a Malaise". I wanted to puke. It took about two months of remembering that disgusting situation to make me vote Republican ever since. (I now have doubts about that sometimes)
Carter's comments are being looked into!
http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=NmVlNzc4OWI5YTc4MDY1MzhiMDM2OWRhNjgzYzk0ZTk=JRA
Nothing that a roll of duct-tape wouldn't cure.
KnightHawk
"We are developing an ingrained hatred for people who aren't Christians," said Carter,
Really do tell......
Talk about projection! No Carter you are the one who hates Jews!
"[Carter] should go down in the history books, along with Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln. But not on their side of any ledger. On the other side."
How about we carve Jimmy's mug into a rocky mountainside a few miles from Mt. Rushmore, then have sappers plant dynamite among his gigantic white granite teeth, up his nostrils and in his ears, and detonate? It could be called "The Carter Crater".
MeanieMo
Correct!
Dam beat me to it!
No Jimmy its you...don't put you guilt on me or anyone else.
That a conference would be convened to discuss the merits of Carter's wretched presidency indicates how far from reality we've drifted.
Appropriately, the President of CNN was in on the action. I wonder if Keith Olbermann made it. Imus? He delusional, and I think maybe he has a little Village People in him given that he sits in Midtown Manhattan and that stupid cowboy outfit.
Not to slate the thirst for Jihadist blood and all that but this subject got me thinking for a minute.
Who was the first person killed in reaction to 911? It some Sikh guy wasn't it?
At O'Hare Airport in Chicago, Illinois, on August 27, 1987. George Bush said, "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God." When asked if he supported as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church he replied, "Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists."
Dhimmi Carter and his cohort, Bill Clinton have started a Baptist convention for all those who believe in the ten suggestions given to Moses by and the secular Jesus movement of appeasement.
Carter is an ignorant but arrogant traitor to his country and gets way too much air time.
Carter is a dhimmi. His type can't see any differentiation between hate and abhoring the harm to others and threats from a bunch of jihadists who want to kill, kill, kill, including you too Carter. If such abhorence of the harm they do is hate, then I guess we have a new definition of hate. Mankind needs to re evaluate rights and rightesousness.
Carter has been so thoroughly compromised by feeding at the Saudi trough that we can safely discount everything he has to say.
50% of topic - 50% on topic
Did anyone read this article? Seems people are waking up - the only problem is " the woman in the audience should have read DIRECT from the koran (*cbui)
Critics interrupt speaker's talk on Islam
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070121/A_NEWS/701210322
The speaker wouldn't have had any answer if it had been from the koran - what excuse would he have had?
Off topic:
Netherlands Weighs Financing Koran School In Afghanistan
Ummah News Links
I'm weary that when you say that you are an american, you have to describe what sort of american you are,,, my answer is I'M a damn AMERICAN YOU ASS!@#$%^&.
News-Flash for Zhimmu Khadr:
There are a lot of people out there who perpetrate violent, inhuman deeds that deserve to be despised.
And a lot of those people happen to be Muslim.
God, Give Us Men!
GOD, give us men! A time like this demands
Strong minds, great hearts, true faith and ready hands;
Men whom the lust of office does not kill;
Men whom the spoils of office can not buy;
Men who possess opinions and a will;
Men who have honor; men who will not lie;
Men who can stand before a demagogue
And damn his treacherous flatteries without winking!
Tall men, sun-crowned, who live above the fog
In public duty, and in private thinking;
For while the rabble, with their thumb-worn creeds,
Their large professions and their little deeds,
Mingle in selfish strife, lo! Freedom weeps,
Wrong rules the land and waiting Justice sleeps.
- Josiah Gilbert Holland
Censure Carter - Sign the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/1400/petition.html
I have a fully developed and mature hatred for people who want to kill me; I do not hate them because they are Arab or African, but because they want to kill me. I also have a fully developed and mature hatred for those washed out, has-been politicians who are making it easier for people to try to kill me, not because I am a Caucasian or an Anglo-Saxon, but merely because I am not a Mohammedan.
It does not matter the color of one's skin or the language one speaks, we are to be subdued, converted, or slaughtered because we worship a different god, more than one god, or no god at all.
Mr Carter needs to be asked what does death in India, Kashmere, Sudan, Philippines, Bali, Chechnya, and other places have to do with Zionism. He cannot answer because he either does not know or does not give a damn.
Somethings gone wrong with the peanut butter; it seems to be destroying brain cells.
the poetess --
"ten suggestions"....I like that one! And I agree with you about Carter. He and Clinton really paved the way for terrorism -- and Bush is trying to clean up their mess.
Interesting that Voltaire is so often quoted by leftists, for example Chomsky's defence of Robert Faurrison's holocaust denial book.
But here's an extract of voltaire's letter to king Frederik II of Prussia:
"But that a camel-merchant should stir up insurrection is his village; that in league with some miserable followers he persuades them that he talks with the angel Gabriel; that he boasts of having been carried to heaven, where he received in part this unintelligible book, each page of which makes common sense shudder; that, to pay homage to this book, he delivers his country to iron and flame; that he cuts the throats of fathers and kidnaps daughters; that he gives to the defeated the choice of his religion or death; this is assuredly nothing any man can excuse, at least if he was not born a Turk, or if superstition has not extinguished all natural light in him.
Perhaps Carter watched the movie "Pollyanna" WAY too many times as a youngster.
I agree. I hope more people ignore his opinions and stop buying his book.
Somethings gone wrong with the peanut butter; it seems to be destroying brain cells.
Posted by: witness at January 23, 2007 10:47 PM
You could try to blame Carter's distorted representations on consumption of aflatoxin poisoning, but I think Joseph Puder has it right: Carter needs a scapegoat to explain away his failed presidency. Re Carter's claim to fame:
[...]
Carter’s intentions and policy commitments were geared towards arranging a Geneva Peace Conference with all the parties to the Arab-Israeli dispute present, in addition to the U.S. and the U.S.S.R.
Carter dispatched Cyrus Vance, his Secretary of State, to Moscow to get the Soviets to co-sponsor the conference. On May 21, 1977, Secretary Vance and Soviet Foreign Minister Gromyko issued a joint statement that the “elimination of the continued source of tension in the Middle East constitutes one of the primary tasks in ensuring peace and international security.” The statement specified moreover the conviction of the U.S. and U.S.S.R. that in order to achieve the goal, “an important role belonged to the Geneva Conference on the Middle East.”
Carter decided to coordinate his Middle East efforts with the Soviets on the premise that keeping them out of the picture could provoke them to undermine any American sponsored moves. This typical Carteresque strategy of appeasing dictatorships and dictators (Carter never met a dictator he did not like) backfired time and again.
In the case of the Geneva Conference, Anwar Sadat, Egypt’s President, who five years earlier expelled the Soviets from Egypt, did not want the Soviets involved in negotiations, much less in a multilateral negotiations. Sadat understood that the Soviets would press the Arabs to be uncompromising (he also knew that Carter would press Israel for concessions) and was turned off by the thought that radical voices in Syria and Iraq would undermine Egypt’s position as the leader of the Arab world.
Sadat was dead-set against going to Geneva. And, in order to scuttle the idea he had to get Israel to reject it.
On November 7, 1977, Anwar Sadat made an historic trip to Jerusalem providing Israelis with one of the most euphoric days in their collective memory. Sadat’s dramatic move and Israel’s Prime Minister Menachem Begin’s personal opposition to Geneva and Soviet participation scuttled the idea of the conference. Carter quickly jumped on the Begin-Sadat bandwagon and the rest is history. It is important to acknowledge that the Camp David Accords – Carter’s premier presidential achievement – happened in spite of his misjudgment.
[...]
Read it all at http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26028
Although D'nesh D'souza mostly gets it wrong in his new and much critized book, he's spot on re the devastating impact of Carter's Iran policy, which was to dump the Shah because he was a fairly ruthless autocrat with a nasty police state apparatus, only to see the Shah replaced with a much more ruthless and nasty theocrat, Khomeini:
Excerpt from Jamie Glazov's interview with D'Souza on yesterday's frontpagemag.com posting:
"FP (Glazov): You say that liberal foreign policy sowed the seeds of 9/11. How?
D’Souza: First the liberals advising Jimmy Carter helped radical Islam to capture its first major state. Since the 1920s the radical Muslims were on the margins of society. But in 1979 they came to power in Iran. How did this happen? Well, our friend Carter was elected in 1976 on a human rights platform. The liberals went to Carter and said, “You can’t support the Shah of Iran because he is a dictator. He has a secret police. He violates human rights.” And so Carter began to pull the Persian rug out from under America’s ally. As resistance to the Shah mounted, Carter urged the Shah not to resist it but to abdicate, which he did. And the result was Khomeini. In trying to get rid of the bad guy, liberal foreign policy brought us the worse guy. Khomeini invented the idea that America is the Great Satan. He called for martyrdom in the cause of fighting America. Without Khomeini, we would never have had Bin Laden. Khomeini paved the way for 9/11. I’m not even going to get into Clinton’s role in emboldening Bin Laden to strike when he did. I’ll leave that for people to read in my book.
So, while Jimmy enjoys the rep as a great peacemaker for the signing of the treaty between Egypt and Israel, which only coindicentally happened on his watch, he is, in truth, the guy who deserves the biggest share of the blame for the entrenchment of a Sharia state in modern times.
I never did like his toothy smile - looks too false. De los dientes pa'fuera- smiles falsely.
Former prez' should be put out to pasture and not to come out into the public eye any more.
chevalier de st george :
As I live and learn, did Voltaire really say that? I LIKE that! That's a keeper. That guy was feisty.
Another comment about Islam from another great thinker from history, Kierkegaard, who wrote in 1839:
"When one views the historical roles of the religions on their journey through the world, the relationship is as follows: Christianity is the actual proprietor who sits in the carriage; Judaism is the coach-man; Muhammadanism is a groom, who does not sit with the coachman, but behind."
http://evergreenessays.blogspot.com/2006/05/did-kierkegaard-offer-anything-on.html
While keeping the metaphor of a carriage on its journey, I would go much further than Kierkegaard: rather than being the lowly groom who has to sit behind the coachman on the carriage, I would say that Muhammadanism is a band of thieving murderous brigands who ambush the carriage, slit the throats of the coachmen and passengers, rape the women, and steal all their goods.
Former peanut farmer's verbal diarrhea does not merit consideration or response.
Not to defend Carter's idiotic stance on the Israeli/Palestinian question, but there is some real wonky theology arising within the evangelical movement in the U.S. and Canada, and perhaps elsewhere, that validates his point to a certain extent, a void in the spectrum of Christian discourse. It centres on the Christian perception of the significance of the present day state of Israel. Israel is an entirely historical phenomena with entirely secular origins and its right to exist must be predicated on these historical grounds, not on silly myths - even religious ones. The attempts of some evangelicals and other Christian fundamentalists to turn it into an eschatological reality on the basis of a distorted view of Sacred Scripture and a misunderstanding of Biblical prophecy and apocalyptic in an attempt to guarantee an apocalyptic nuclear endtimes scenario that would precipitate the Parousia ("2nd coming of Christ") threatens to generate a violent form of Christianity mirroring Islam. If it were to succeed in its goal of provoking a nuclear war in the Middle East this would be a disaster greater than anything the world has ever seen in recorded history.
The mainstream Churches in the U.S. ought to be much more agressively challenging this heretical movement, not with the kind of insipid relativism of the National Cathedral's dhimmiizing, Khameini-welcoming relativism of "interreligious dialogue" but with the bite and clarity of the orthodox historic Christian faith. Until the mainstream Churches counteract it by enunciating an authentic and consistent vision of Christian relations with the Jewish people and with the state of Israel as well as a clear and agreed theology of the Jewish covenant in the economy of salvation, we're going to be plagued by the annoying noises of Carter and other eccentric dhimmi wombats, because there's no one else available to speak up about this emerging deviant form of Christianity.
Patriarch Michael Cerularious (aka "Templar")
Carter hits a new low: "We are developing an ingrained hatred for people who aren't Christians"
That's a laugher. Christians are the only group that it is OK to openly hate. The internet is full of calls to "lock up" all "fundies". He's a senile old fart.
The Carter Days were awful. On top of the economic problems we were having, the self-serving S*B got on the TV channels and told us how "Americans were in a Malaise". I wanted to puke. It took about two months of remembering that disgusting situation to make me vote Republican ever since. (I now have doubts about that sometimes)
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he was so right about the "malaise". That was the one thing where he was right on point. does he know the CAUSE of the malaise? Most likely not so I will spell it out even though I think that my fellow Jihadwatchers already know the answer. The cause of the malaise - Jimmy Carter.
I was a young man at the time and still lived in Germany during the dark days of the hostage crisis. Every day I'd turn on the radio first thing in the morning.. watch the evening news.. when I couldn't sleep.. go down to the kitchen and turn on the radio again.. day after day.. waiting for what I believed would inevitably come:
News of a successful invasion and hostage rescue.. or a decisive military strike of some kind against the illegitimate regime of the ayatollahs.. and nothing ever came across the airwaves. And yet.. i continued my routine each and every day. I wished nothing more than to see those hostages liberated and Iran punished for their vile act.
Living in the then-capital of Bonn I frequently had to drive past the Iranian embassy there and I always laid on my horn and stuck my hand out the window, giving them the good-old American One-Finger salute which I'd learned as a Junior High school a few years earlier in Michigan.
I was absolutely incredulous that the news of action never came. I simply refused to believe it. I always thought that Americans would never stand for their countrymen to be captured and paraded around like this.
Sadly, this non-action gave cause for increasing confidence for the knee-jerk communist and anti-Western elements in my school and in the media. I had arguments with lefty teachers regarding America and paid for it in sometimes even having to fight in court to have my grades adjusted as a result of my stubbornness in support of the United States.
I called such teachers weekend revolutionaries and challenged them to move to east Berlin or Moscow if the system which the Americans had installed in West Germany was really so bad. Calling them on their hipocrisy was what enraged them the most. One teacher even sent me to the school psychologist who ended up telling me that he saw no need to counsel me but that it was indeed the teacher who'd sent me who might be in need of such counsel.
I did get elected Class President in two of my classes without even running for it. Since balloting was secret the students simply wrote me in. Registering their protest in silence. They weren't ones to stick their necks out but they understood my logic and wanted my voice in the leftist-dominated Student Council.
What I am saying is.. Jimmy Carter gave me very little to work with. Here I was.. defending America in a German High School while their own President constantly showed his contempt for his own country. It was definitely demoralizing. If I hadn't lived in the States prior to this I would have never been able to draw on my personal knowledge and experience of this Great Country and the many wonderful people I met there.. the friends I made.. which is whom I felt it was up to me to defend against uninformed ideological assaults. I had to say to these teachers and some of the students that it was the Americans who gave Germany a second chance - not the Russians who were stripping East Germany along with the other satellites it had captured as a result of WW2.
Getting elected Class President in two classes without even candidating proved to me that the majority of people do understand logic and the issues but that they will usually remain silent and take things as they come.
This JW blog fills exactly the same need.. it gives voice to the voiceless.. It speaks up where acquiescence is the easier choice.
We reject the labels they put on us. See Jimmy Carter. There are not only Christians who are deeply troubled and worse by islam.
How does he rationalize the animosity that Hindus and even Buddhists feel toward islam? How does Carter explain that I basically an agnostic, who used to think Christian fundamentalism and Conservative Catholicism were holding Mankind back, have solidly arrived in the camp of the enemies of islam?
No, Mr. Carter, we are not only Christians - though many of us are - we are of many faiths and philosophies. What unites us all is the threat which now looms over us all.. the threat which was always there but has become increasingly manifest to the point where it can no longer be ignored.
I've stated this before: If islam has served to accomplish one good thing - it is that it has served to bring together people who heretofore didn't know much about one another and maybe held certain others in vague contempt. We now understand each others' shared humanity and concerns in great detail.
Jews are happy to meet Germans [way to few] who are strong and loyal supporters of Israel and Jewish concerns in the world at large. Christians are embracing Jewry which maybe they too should have done without it having to come to this first. Hindus and Buddhists and Zoroastrians are finding supporters and more detailed understanding in far-flung parts of the world.
All of a sudden it seems that all these diverse groups and peoples are realizing their commonality.. their love of life and all that is good.. their shared ethics..
All in the face of this foaming dark monolith which is the umma.
I've been to websites from all over the world representing all these different faiths and ideas and peoples and I found they share so much alike. What they share most of all is a deep respect for life. Life which is imbued with an inviolable spirit. And we all share the knowledge that whatever form God may have or whatever way we belive or worship.. we share the knowledge that Life comes above all and it is not up to us mortals to judge or to take life for whatever it is we happen to believe. To do so would be the greatest sin of all. it makes sense to an agnostic so I shall call that a Natural Law. Islam is in direct violation of this Natural Law. So in my mind islam stands in direct opposition to Life itself. I cannot say this about any other faith.
When Christians for example do wrong they KNOW they are doing wrong and can be called on it. See Martin Luther King.
There is no such contradiction of Faith and Natural Law [Ethics] in the koran.
Whatever cruelties the adherents of islam perpetrate upon their fellow human beings is not only completely justified therein - it is in fact MANDATED.
Jimmy Carter is not an evil man - he is simply stupid and stuck in the 60s. He is unable to process new information and re-adjust his thinking accordingly. Instead he tries to fit new information into an outdated ideological framework which is cause for his contradictory scribblings.
The problem is that Mr. Carter is but one of many. His ex-Presidency merely serves as a focus. Many of his ideological contemporaries now serve in media and education when not in politics.
Those who survived their mis-education as I have turn away from these institutions in disgust - thereby surrendering power to these misguided "idealists-gone-bad".
Good intentions indeed do pave the road to hell.
Mr. Carter.. If you want to call Israel names and defame her.. you will have to go through me. I know I am not the only one on her side. I tell you as an agnostic - God is on her side.
Ps. Sorry this got so long. I know I can't write like Hugh and Robert. But I really have a few things to tell this more foolish than duplicitous Jimmy Carter.
He is more dangerous than the likes of James Baker. Baker knows what he is doing. He knows it is wrong and he does it for money. Jimmy Carter actually believes that waht he does is right. That's why you see he still has followers. They are attracted by his misguided zeal and sincerity.
Same reason [in a way different context] why Hitler was so successful. We know he was wrong. But he believed he was right. Which is why many of the JW posters see the parallel to the present chieftain of Iran. Armageddonedinejad.
Those who are motivated by a "higher power" are infinitely more dangerous than even the most greedy and money-grubbing Macchiavellist - among whom I also count Saddam Hussein. Which is why i know we made a huge strategic mistake once again by removing him. Just like the Shah of Iran. The reasons aren't the same but the results are similarly disastrous.
The renascence of Jimmy Carter eerily portends a false longing for 'sincerity' and 'righteousness' within our Western populations - one that this time around could become cause for infinitely more damage. The stakes are much much higher. We will pay a high price both for our misguided idealism and for our short-sighted Realpolitik based mostly on commerce and greed where imminent and often too narrowly-defined goals determined and gave reason for ethically unjustifiable political and military actions.
We should not forget that the United States is still a "young" country in the scheme of things and so are countries like Germany and Poland. Both of whom emerged out of troubled pasts.
Italy is also among them - constituted in its present form by Garibaldi in the 19th century.
Others like Switzerland have been around practically unchanged for over 750 years.
Spain and France and Britain are also among the more long-established European states.
The conflicts in 20th-Century Europe are in great part a result of the conflict between the established Nations and the upstarts - namely Germany and Austria-Hungary who were feeling their oats and throwing their new-found weight around like inexperienced over-confident youths.
I recently read an interesting post on a blog somewhere describing Liberals not as unpatriotic but rather as foolishly [in the opinion of the blogger] over-confident Americans thinking that noone can harm America and therefore America not only can but is mandated to act from a high and benevolent standard - regardless of the actions of the other "weaker" nations.
Either way we see the younger nations brimming with confidence and optimism.. feeling they can do possibly more than they can. Ironically it's the United States that can actually do what Germany and Austria erroneously imagined they could.
Where these two nascent Teutonic powers might have been more well-served by exercising restraint and "benign benevolence" as Western Liberals are wont to.. I do believe that doing this in the presently constituted world is counter to the interests not only of the United States but of many other actors world-wide.
An overly restrained America only serves to encourage less benign actors [Iran, North Korea, Sudan] to seize the perceived vacuum. The price for their misconception will be higher for everyone the longer it takes for them to be shown the error of their miscalculations. There is no doubt that we will eventually prevail - no matter whom we are up against.
Abandoning Israel and undermining her not only diminishes our moral standing. Even our mutual foes understand steadfastness and loyalty. They have experienced the very concrete and real effects of that more than a few times since 1948.
The Soviet Empire crumbled not only due to military outspending but also due to mutual loyalty and friendship between the United States and Western Europe.
The other side had only coerced and demoralized partners to face our coalition. They couldn't wait to get out from under the Soviet grip.
America the idealistic strong young man stood against the menace not sure what would be the outcome - and yet they stood. They gave cause and confidence to their Western European allies.
Which is all too often forgotten in Europe.
We should still try to define our Western Liberalism as a different manifestation of just the same confidence though. They really believe [foolishly I and many others will say] that we are and must remain - a Shining City on the Hill.. a beacon of Ethics.. which has worked for Germany and Japan and I think will eventually work for Russia and China as well.
This exuberance of spirit and can-do and often naive desire to "make the world a better place" can lead us into dangerous miscalculations - leaving us open and unguarded against an unexpected attack. See 9/11. Among many.
Just like the old Star Trek.. the "others" have to destroy half the Enterprise before the Captain finally decides to shoot back. With each subsequent reincarnation of the series the Federation became ever-increasingly conflict-resolution-oriented.. to the point of being no longer entertaining. It is no surprise that LaVarr Burton eventually showed up on a PBS children's show.
We idealize the intellectual ethical and emotionally restrained vulcans while this determined enemy of ours on this Earth does all it can to emulate both Klingons and Borg.
What we might should do [yes I lived in Atlanta for a few years] is engage China and Russia directly. Explain to the Chinese that we cannot sit by much longer regarding Sudan.. and offer them economic alternatives to their oil deal with Sudan. I am sure that could be done. We owe them lots of money and we are their largest export market. Our demise would do them no good. Same for Russia.. we should stop interfering with their Chechnya politics in return for their seeing things more our way re. Iran. who knows.. they may even share some intelligence. Both Chinese and Russians aren't stupid. Giving them a bit more respect costs very little. They know we'd never harm them unless we are thoroughly threatened. They do NOT know the same in the face of islamist expansion. The strongest powers on Earth simply MUST work together more. That would go a very long way to thwarting the ambitions of countries like North Korea and Iran. Neither China nor Russia can really have an interest in having a rogue nuclear state at their doorstep.
These are the actors I recommend engaging - NOT Syria and Iran. They and we have interests in common. They both are rapidly going "market economy" - and we should be there to help them along. Their populations do not run around shaking AK-47s and burning flags. All they want is a roof over their heads, food to eat, maybe a nice car and a vacation.. Russians are coming to ski the Alps now and sun at the Riviera - sans burka. That's a good sign isn't it?
Russians and Chinese have been traumatized by islamic terrorism not long ago. They know our pain from 9/11. India has long been victim to islamist dreams of expansion and they've held fast for nearly 1400 years.
We have things in common with these people! More than we think. I fault the US guvment for not doing more with them. Stop going to the Middle East all the time.. go to Beijing and Moscow instead.
And guess what? The Europeans will have to come back real coy.. or they may just find themselves on the sidelines.. :-) No more playing both ends against the middle for them when Russia starts firting with their new-found trans-Pacific partners... same for China. Why just do trade with them?
The Europeans want the Middle East for market and trading? Heck.. let them have it. India, China and Russia are growing fast.. Russian oil can flow not only to Europe but also to China and to Alaska..
China won't need oil from Sudan so much if they can get it from a closer more reliable source.
Furthermore.. not only the Europeans will have to reconsider their positions vis-a-vis the United States. So will the countries of the Middle East. Both these Eurabian actors will sudenly feel the pangs of fear of isolation.
Knowing your partner is eyeing new options can definitely serve to appreciate what one has been taking for granted for too long.
It is indeed time for the United States of America to grow up and command the immense muscle it has. Not the military muscle which it knows it has and which it uses with such benign restraint like no world power has ever done in the History of Mankind. No, I am talking about the power of innovative and creative diplomacy. Loyal to those who stand by you - like Israel. And at the same time seeking out new friends with whom to explore common interests.
If Russia and China can move closer - who's to say they won't be open to more intricate relations with us?
By the way.. both China and Russia are members of the Security Council. The French are kind of fickle anyway. Having friends like these two will go a long way to make France think very carefully about her often gratuitously obstructionist actions in the Security Council.
I just thought of one more benefit that may one day result from good relations and cooperation with these two powers.. Extraordinary renditions.. Two very tough countries where terrorists would HATE to be handed over to. And no bellyaching like we now have from Europe about counter-terrorism cooperation with their Secret Services.
And one more time: The Europeans - and Canada too - will have to fall in line. Or else they will indeed be Old Europe. Increasingly irrelevant and becoming more and more at risk of falling to islam.
Once they see their options narrowing down to the choice of either a slow and steady surrender to islam or buckling under and re-joining the main actors of the new World Economy I am sure they will choose the right path.
But either way.. whatever decision they eventually make - it will be way more consequential for them than for us.
Wake up, America.. Europe is like a very sophisticated older woman who is playing you.. treating you like the eager young boy.. flirting with others at the same time.. There are more youthful and energetic ones out there who can give you a hell of a ride!
There are many Asians in the US.. and recently Russians too.. They do very well here and they love this country.
Russia and China really have little reason to ignore our advances. Competition is a very good thing. We are a very desirable partner and we should start acting like it.
Confidence is very attractive. Think Cary Grant. Bogey.
That's the face we need to assume once again. That is the face that Jimmy Carter all but destroyed. That is the image of America which causes young boys in other countries to embrace America.. as did landing the Man on the Moon.
Why do we get these lame prefab State of the Union speeches when there is so much to be said?!
Why do they act like a lame duck when it could be considered as "free like an Eagle". Noone to answer to but History and your country in an idealistic way. No more bowing to politics. Even special interests.. hell if he doesn't raise funds for his Library he could go to the people and ask for small donations. THAT is something I'd donate money to. The ex-President who says he can't raise money from Big Interests for his Library..
I bet the American People would respond with a ROAR of checks!
We're not stupid, Mr. Carter, and Mr. Bush.. we're merely cynical so the MSM says we are apathetic because that's somehow less threatening. Maybe we the people will even believe that if they call us apathetic. I KNOW we are anything but. We know what the deal is and we don't really know how to manifest and act upon our growing discontent.
Thus we are indeed cynical.
Never underestimate the powers of perception of the people. You do so at your own risk.
We see you - the politicians and media - as cynical too. You see, we recognize you better than you recognize us.
Why is it so difficult to honestly engage us and act in our common interest? Are you not one of us?
Mr. Carter. You are an ex-President and definitely in my opinion the worst at least in recent history. But nonetheless I urge you from this little post of mine on JW.. do not sell out a friend.
Israel is our friend for better or worse - through thick and thin. One treats a friend with more love - even in disagreement. But one never stabs a friend in the back, Brutus!
As President of this country you inherit both friends and foe from History. It is good to make new friends.. like Japan and Germany but one should never stab them in the back.
Not only is it completely unethical. It is also something that both friend and foe will judge you by. Friends will be uneasy if you treat another friend in an underhanded way. Foes will feel encouraged seeing you waver. The Berlin Wall fell in large part due to steadfastness and now we have made friends with most of the smaller foes already. And we still have the opportunity to make friends with our Major Foe from the Cold War. Making new friends rather than backstabbing existing ones will do a whole lot more to rein in our foes with far less damage than need be. If Russia is properly engaged she will no doubt re-evaluate her nuclear engagement with Iran. Why waste so much money in Iraq when it would be much more well-spent in Russia for example?
And why not broker an oil and gas deal between China and Russia since they are neighbors already? Let Iran and Sudan find new customers.. They both NEED the revenue.
Good night, Mr. Grande Malaise.. Carter.
Not to slate the thirst for Jihadist blood and all that but this subject got me thinking for a minute.
Who was the first person killed in reaction to 911? It some Sikh guy wasn't it?
At O'Hare Airport in Chicago, Illinois, on August 27, 1987. George Bush said, "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God." When asked if he supported as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church he replied, "Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists."
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I just wrote the longest post I ever have but I remembered seeing this above while scrolling down.
It is so preposterous which I think means it's full of false premises in plain English.
In philosophy a premise is a known uncontested truth. The MSM are masters at presenting their false truths daily as infallible and incontestable premises but that is not where I am going right now. We all know this already. Just reminding you all to stay sharp. Never accept anything as premise unless you think it through and decide it is so. That goes for anything I or anyone here puts forth. If I am wrong I like to know.
We all are here for one reason only. Our commonly enjoyed freedom. Freedom for me means freedom for anyone who respects mine and desires theirs.
Let us examine the text of the troll. It's a great example of a white Liberal's sloppy mind-work.
[no sooner I say this and it's Nazeem's alter-ego, but indulge me]
He sets forth from a position of benign moral superiority. We are all thirsting for jihadist blood.
Having been on here for a while.. and reading what people write - rather than assuming things a priori - I feel qualified to say that what j.t. describes as our thirst for jihadist blood is anything but.
What he is doing is an attempt to disqualify our response to what we have identified as a world-wide threat to freedom. Correct me if I stated that wrong in any way. It's the best way I can explain why I am here anyway. And what I think the others are motivated by.
We are witness daily to jihadist atrocities and I mean not merely a 'thirst for "infidel" [ie. our] blood'.
They are shedding blood daily and all-too often it goes unchallenged in our media. We are here.. voicing our outrage and we voice our solidarity with victims of jihad from Beslan to Mumbai,Nigeria, Sudan and wherever it occurs.
Unlike the jihadists we all would like nothing more than to return to our lives we had before islamic fascism and desire for World Domination entered our awareness. I think I can speak for all of us here.
This is an important little detail our liberal poster-boy j.t. conveniently ignores. Yeah.. a bunch of right-wing bloggers.. yeah..!!
Bull !
We are indeed saddened and angered by the violent actions and expansionist pretensions of islam. We are rightfully outraged by their disgusting displays right in the very hearts of our countries.. holding up signs proclaiming they wish to bring a Holocaust to us.. burning our flags.. while enjoying the material benefits our societies have achieved.
Please do not blame me/us when we express rage at the murders they commit.. Vincent VanGogh.. Pim Fortuin.. the video-taped beheadings.. the dismembering of our soldiers' bodies after they've brutally tortured them to death.. while they enjoy three squares a day and have access to their korans when they are our captives.
These daily displays of depraved inhumanity by the jihadists do make my blood boil and Natural Law recognizes the need and desire for revenge.
The day they stop and renounce their ways I guarantee there will be noone here "thirsting for jihadist blood".
Before i move on.. I'm a German and I think that Winston Churchill was one of the greatest leaders ever. He said quite a few things about us Germans. But unlike the jihadists.. I feel he had every right to. I'd have done the very same. He was angry for a reason. And he saved us from ourselves. So many accused him of "thirsting for blood" and being a war-monger. I think he merely realized that war was unfortunately inevitable. He used his brain and concluded properly and thus he roused his people and for foreign support. Ya dig?
Noone here wishes for bloodshed once the enemy renounces and gives up its ways.
Next point. j.t. mentions the first murder victim in the US after 9/11 was a Sikh. I assume he has the moral high ground here and he's somehow putting us in league with people going out looking for people to lynch after 9/11.
Otherwise why mention this here? We happen to know that Sikhs are particularly anti-islam and they formed due to islamic murder of Hindus in India.
I find that statement more than insulting. I saw 9/11 from rather close up live and in living color so I do not need lectures from the likes of j.t.
Yes, Mr. Lieberal.. 7m JW visitors are nothing but a bunch of bloodthirsty rednecks. Right!
Third point: j.t. has something about George Bush denouncing atheists. SO WHAT? I am not a Bushie and many others here aren't either. Then there are some who do support him. Does that mean that we all have something against atheists? The reason we are here is to **PROTECT** the rights of BOTH atheists and CHRISTIANS.. and Jews and Hindus.. Buddhists and even Scientologists. And whoever else I failed to list.
We don't all have to hang out and be friends but we are joined in common opposition against islamo-fascist hubris for world domination.
Whatever occasionally "bloodthirsty" rhetoric you may see is merely the result of righteous anger at new REAL LIFE atrocities committed by the jihadists.
The screaming lack of detailed reporting of these atrocities by OUR own media only serves to heighten our frustration and rage at our present inability to counter these atrocities in a meaningful way.
The fact that many of our law-makers don't seem to see fit to fight the fight for us.. the fact that our very own media seems to sympathize more with the enemy than with the country that affords them the education and the opportunity to work in their wonderful professions.. yes, it is indeed very hard to take.
It's like Madonna.. she can play with Christian religious symbols and it's all very avantgarde while safe.. let her try that with islamic stuff and see what happens!
We Jihadwatchers are keenly aware that true artists like Vincent Van Gogh and many others who speak out on islam - IN THEIR OWN NATIVE COUNTRIES I MAY ADD [Fallacci, Bardot, Renger and many more PLUS those who came to us for protection such as Hirsi Asli and Salman Rushdie - THEY risk their very lives. And nary a politician in Europe or America sees fit to speak out??!!
What about the racist attacks against Scottish schoolchildren? Malmø? London and Madrid? Bali and the German tourists murdered while visiting the Synagogue in Morocco?
The Israeli tourists in Sinai - incidentally handed back to Egypt by Israel! I am actually amazed how restrained the Israelis are in face of all of this.
As of now.. we may be thirsting for blood.. and quite reluctantly so.. so far none of us has shed a drop!!!
Forgive us if we are angry, Mr. Liberal. The list of jihadist atrocities I put forth here is far from complete and you know it.
So keep on going out.. wearing your oh-so-fashionable Arafat terrorist keffiyah rag and think of yourself as some kind of a free-thinking supporter of freedom fighters worldwide. Babble on..
One day it will be the very people you dismiss and look down on who will come save your sorry ass.
I wouldn't call that "blood-thirsty". I'd call it compassion.
That's the problem with dhimmi Carter. He enables people like j.t.
"We are developing an ingrained hatred for people who aren't Christians,"
Something tells me that this is as close as the guy's going to get to admitting his antipathy towards Jews. What a moral tightwad he is.
MeanieMo:
You make a number of excellent points, and I wanted to post a reply much earlier but I've been awfully busy the last couple of days. Well, better late than never, I hope.
I found your statement about the way the different religious communities relate to one another particularly appealing. My own ideas are rooted in the orthodox Christian (Catholic)tradition and I sometimes use the name Cerularius (even though that name is a bit scandalous to Catholics because of his role in the schism with the Eastern Orthodox churches - a long story I won't get into here) that I used above when I particularly want to underline the theological significance of an argument. The authority of that tradition for me of course impels me at times to assume the posture of speaking on behalf of the definitive truth about the world (inasmuch as its possible for us to know it in this life). Yet in spite of this it seems clear to me that - and I'd say this is probably true of most other religious traditions, whether they make that kind of claim to "exclusive" authority or not - there is still a great deal that we can learn from one another - including those professing agnosticism. What a tragedy, for Muslims especially, that Islam, as you say, can only relate to the other traditions as the objects of violent destruction. Hence the mess we're in today.
I remember on at least a couple of threads (maybe more) back in August I was doing my best to argue persuasively the very case that you are making about Russia, China and the rest of the world as potential allies for American diplomacy - and military power if need be - to work with against the Umma so I am especially glad to hear from someone else making this point on the other side of the border. You've said it very well here, so much better I think than I did. Well done!
I think your point about American soft power being used as leverage with these nations, as well as Europe, is right on the money. I live in Canada and I find the news about Islam in this country absolutely abyssmal, so I have to agree with you that this nation also really has to wake up. But we're not the only ones obviously (its even true of a great many Americans presently as we both know) and this, I believe, makes the kind of global leadership you're advocating for the U.S. even more important. Although I would hazard a guess that many other Canadians would willingly support an American-lead alliance against the Umma, most of my countrymen, unfortunately, are still to brainwashed with politically correct nonsense and may remain that way until we experience our own 9/11. Hopefully if we remain persistent wherever we live our efforts will pay off, so keep on working on spreading the ideas you've advocated here, and keep defending the American spirit of liberty!
God bless the U.S.A.!
Cheers!
Jacques de Molay (aka "Templar")