Dhimmi Jimmy

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Jimmy Carter went to Brandeis, and one of the protest signs greeting him called him by his right name: Dhimmi Jimmy.

"At Brandeis, Carter Responds to Critics," by Pam Belluck in The New York Times:

WALTHAM, Mass., Jan. 23 — In his first major public speech about his controversial book “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid,” former President Jimmy Carter told an audience at Brandeis University on Tuesday that he stood by the book and its title, that he apologized for what he called an “improper and stupid” sentence in the book and that he had been disturbed by accusations that he was anti-Semitic.

Mr. Carter’s book, “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid,” drew protesters to Brandeis on Tuesday. Critics have said the book contains errors and misrepresentations of the roles of both the Israelis and the Palestinians.

Although controversy had preceded his visit here, Mr. Carter was greeted with a standing ovation and treated with obvious respect by the audience, even as students asked questions that were critical of his assertions.

A standing ovation? Shameful.

“This is the first time that I’ve ever been called a liar and a bigot and an anti-Semite and a coward and a plagiarist,” Mr. Carter told the crowd of about 1,700 at Brandeis, a nonsectarian university founded by American Jews, where about half the students are Jewish. “This is hurting me.”

The first time he has been called a coward? Really?

He added, “The fact that they deteriorate into ad hominem attacks on my character has probably been a greater barrier to progress than the fact that I chose a particular word in the title.”...

No, the greatest barrier to progress has been your arrogant refusal to debate -- you are probably aware that your carelessness and inaccuracy would be exposed.

Mr. Carter initially rejected an invitation to speak at Brandeis because it suggested that he debate Alan M. Dershowitz, a Harvard law professor who has sharply criticized the book. Wanting the university to welcome contrary views, more than 100 students and faculty members signed a petition contending that Mr. Carter should be invited without conditions. Questions were preselected by the committee that invited Mr. Carter, and the questioners included an Israeli student and a Palestinian student.

After Mr. Carter left, Mr. Dershowitz spoke in the same gymnasium, saying that the former president oversimplified the situation and that his conciliatory and sensible-sounding speech at Brandeis belied his words in some other interviews.

“There are two different Jimmy Carters,” Mr. Dershowitz said. “You heard the Brandeis Jimmy Carter today, and he was terrific. I support almost everything he said. But if you listen to the Al Jazeera Jimmy Carter, you’ll hear a very different perspective.”

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Brandeis was a very Jewish university when it was born. Kind of a refuge for Jews. Sure isn't like that now. The secular liberal Jewish ethos rules it now. I have a cousin who graduated there 1968. Angela Davis and Marty Peretz were classmates

How's there not a riot there? You have slogans like 'Saudi oil $ not peanuts' right next to 'US & Israel, Hands off Iran'. These slogans can't be coming from the same groups?

Of course there will be ad hominem attacks on Carter's character. He show ed how low he is when he handed Iran to the Khomeini fanatics... on a silver platter

O drats, it looks like, after reading the article, that I'll have to add to my list of ad hominems (along with dirt-bag peanut farmer, red-necked bigot, cowardly racist antisemite), now I can add "inveigling, two-faced snake," along with, "Deceitful liar."

By the way, although it's "ad hominem" -- it's not a fallacious ad hominem. There's a difference. If someone is a liar (the person has openly, deliberately deceived others), and you call the person a "liar" that's an ad hominem, but not a fallacious ad hominmem.

“This is the first time that I’ve ever been called a liar and a bigot and an anti-Semite and a coward and a plagiarist,” Mr. Carter told the crowd of about 1,700..."

That is very unfortunate. This should have been at least the 5000th time, given his history.

“This is the first time that I’ve ever been called a liar and a bigot and an anti-Semite and a coward and a plagiarist"

As far as liar and bigot and antisemite go, he thinks it is the first time he has been called that? He has been called nothing but that by some who saw him, early on, for what he was and is, and if the students and faculty at Brandeis can be so easily fobbed off with his goofy grin and his feigned innocence and indignation, then there is something wrong with them. No doubt not all of them were quite so pleased - the usual small group, in any situation, of the unrelentingly intelligent. Drowned out by the siimpletons and the sentimentalists and, of course, the vicious (including probably some non-Jewish students who have come to "resent" the so-called "Jewish atmosphere" at Brandeis -- for god's sake what did they expect? And why should it be otherwise? -- and were delighted to exhibit that resentment by applauding Jimmy Carter as their vicious hero).

A total shit, is Carter. And he remains a total shit no matter how many people give him how many standing ovations at Brandeis or anywhere else. He remains, does Carter, a total shitwhether or not the egregious Dershowitz, concludes that if "the Carter I heard tonight at Brandeis had been the Carter who wrote the book I would have no objection." What nonsense does Dershowitz, a kind of Book-of-the-Month-Club level Self-Appointed Master Defender of Israel, engage in, no doubt under the delusion that he is quite a defender of Israel, even though he remains complacently ignorant of Islam, and therefore, a believer in this "Palestinian state" business which shows just how wrongly he comprehends the war against Israel, and the Lesser Jihad being waged, without end, against it, by those who support, with Abbas, the Slow Jihad, and those who support, with Hananiya, the Fast Jihad.

With ineffectual, because insufficnetly informed enemies like Dershowitz, Carter doesn't need friends.

lol @ Dhimmi Jimmy

By the way, although it's "ad hominem" -- it's not a fallacious ad hominem. There's a difference. If someone is a liar (the person has openly, deliberately deceived others), and you call the person a "liar" that's an ad hominem, but not a fallacious ad hominmem.
Posted by: J.S.

Agreed. Sometimes, ad hominem is a valid point.

Wow! Mr. Fitzgerald! Strong words!

It takes a Peanut Khadr to rock 'n roll you like that...

You are always welcome to let off more steam at

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/24/the-despicable-peanut-khadr-2/

No need to hold back!

Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

Carter's allegations of being the subject of ad hominem attacks are the claims of a very desperate man.

Allegations of plagarism and distortions of fact come from such authoritative sources as Dennis Ross, Professor Kenneth Stein, Carter's erstwhile co-author, who started the chain of resignations, etc., from the Carter Center. (As I recall, Carter even cited a conversation with General Moishe Dayan that allegedly took place about a decade or more after Dayan's death!)

No, if such allegations were baseless as Carter claims, you'd think he'd would have welcomed the opportunity to debate the facts and merits of the case he presents in his remainder bin-destined book, but he hasn't.

I have no idea why some people have so much trouble understanding this situation.

The Jews have had a constituent population in what is now Israel for a good 3000 years. And, yes,many Jews WERE driven out of Israel by conquering Roman armies and, later, by the Muhammedan armies--but many Jews found a way to stay in Israel and fight for their land. The Jews may not have been able to retain sovereign over Israel's territory all those centuries but nevertheless they have been the inhabitants of Israel for a longer time than the Muslims certainly (Islam formally came into being at about 600 AD a good 1500 years after the Jews settled Israel) and just about anyone else. If you dig up land just about anyplace in Israel mostly what you will find will be JEWSISH relics (there will be some others of now extinct cultures like that of the Pheonicians and Canaanites who did worship the Islamic deity Baal). Which proves my point: Israel has been the homeland of the Jewish people for a longer time than for anyone else who was there. Israel belongs to the Jews. And, so what???

The Jews clearly have the strongest claim to Israel territory if only be dint of thetenure concept. Again, no big deal. This same can be said elsewhere for just about everyone else.

I find it tough to believe that the world can't see this (even an idiot like Zhimmu should be able to see this very obvious reality).

“This is the first time that I’ve ever been called a liar and a bigot and an anti-Semite and a coward and a plagiarist,”

Well, get used to it. And consider yourself lucky: They forgot to add "arrogant, sanctimonious, bumbling dim wit". It wasn't enough to disgrace the role of US Presidency when he occupied the position .. he simply cannot restrain himself from continuing to do the same.

“The fact that they deteriorate into ad hominem attacks on my character.. "

Typical. No mention of HIS attacks on the character of the only democracy in the ME (and of the functional moral foundation of Western civilization) - Israel.

What a jerk.