Why has the American government not read Saudi Arabia the riot act? Why haven't the hate-filled pamphlets collected at mosques around the country that were built and are now maintained by Saudi money brought together by Rice or Bush and put out on a table at the White House? And then the Arab ambassadors could all be invited over to see this "Special Exhibit," an exhibit to which representatives of all the major networks and the major newspapers here and abroad will be invited and urged to cover?
And then why does Bush or someone else not have a little private meeting with the enraged Saudi Ambassador, to tell him that there is much more in that sort of "Special Exhibit" -- which could of course tour the country -- if he doesn't stop funding the mosques and madrasas in this country, and stop allowing Saudi money to pay for Muslim missionaries in the prisons, to prey on the psychically as well as economically marginal.
If the American government had a mind to do it, it could bring the Saudi government around in no time.
But it doesn't, because so many former government officials and those who listen to them are directly or indirectly on the Saudi or other Muslim dole. Who pays Eugene Bird, and pays for the ads of the "Council for the National Interest" that is virtually identical in its views to the Saudi government? Who pays for "consultancy" by Raymond Close, or James Akins? Who pays for that magazine about the Middle East, full of Arab propaganda, that another ex-diplomat, Andrew Kilgore, runs? Who pays or has paid fees to Brent Scowcroft? To George McGovern? What Presidential libraries have been battening on Saudi and other Arab money? Who has received those million-dollar lecture fees in Kuwait, or from that Arab-funded lectureship at the Fletcher School (hint: Bush, Clinton)? Who has been getting what?
Ask yourself why since 1973 there has been not a move toward decreasing, through the simple device of taxes, demand for oil and gasoline? Why for thirty years did American energy policy consist of trusting "our staunch ally Saudi Arabia" to keep prices low, when it never happened, and never could have happened? Why was no one aware until the last year or two of what, inevitably, OPEC oil revenues would fund? Why was Prince Bandar the only foreigner allowed in on the plans for invading Iraq? Why today do we worry about what the Sunni Arabs want, and believe that we have a duty to remain in Iraq to protect those Sunnis (i.e., keep the "catastrophe of civil war" from happening)?
And that is just the beginning of the list of questions that need to be asked.
Meanwhile, as long as the Saudi "royal" family (self-anointed monarchs since they defeated the Jabal Shammar in 1920, or soon thereafter) exists, and appropriates most of the nation's wealth, there will be those who will as Muslims find their resentment and outraged channeled into Islam as the total explanation of everything. And terrorism will continue in Saudi Arabia until the end of time. Let it. The only business the Infidel world should have with Saudi Arabia is to attempt to have as little business with Saudi Arabia.
For the moment great sums of money flow in, and they will continue to flow in. But this does not mean that every effort cannot be made to diminish that flow of money (instead of aiming at a ludicrously irrelevant "energy independence" for the United States, which is both unachievable and would have no effect on Saudi Arabia or other Muslim oil states, for oil not sold to America will simply be sold to others, unless collective demand goes down).
Saudi Arabia needs to be "ridimensionato" -- that is to say, cut down to size. "Money can buy everything - except civilization." It is a barbarous place; its government is barbarous, its economy barbarous, the mental state of its inhabitants barbarous. A very few, who have spent a long time in the West, can appear to have acquired the habits of thought of Western man. And a very few of those may actually manage to do so. But no one should be fooled by the oleaginous new ambassador, Al-Jubeir.
There is just one little problem and it is called "CAIR".
Hugh,
Clearly you must be an islamophobe. I can almost feel the hatred! Why do you hate Islam so much?!! Islam means peace! And look how well the pilgrims behaved in Mecca. yadda yadda yadda yadda (the usual mantra).
Anyway, it's a sad thing that we westerns are selling our civilization for islam oil.
Yes why doesn't George Bush think about those guys who saved his oil business, or the ones who partner Carlyle, or the guys who lubricate those wheels than squeak in and around Washington ?
"Why has the American government not read Saudi Arabia the riot act? "
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Here's why:
http://tuilsholas.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/bush_saudi_comp.jpg
and let's make it clearer:
http://www.photogslounge.net/graphics6/bush_abdullah.jpg
http://www.giveupblog.com/images/kiss-saudi.jpg
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Que asco!
Ni que si fuera Patrick Swayze!
Too bad those weren't "kisses of death".
Oh allat, that is horrendous :O
Poor Western civilization, caught in a pincer movement reminiscent of Cannae.
Mohammedans assail the left, Gramscians turn the right and our general is kissing and holding hands with the enemy.
America desperately needs decent leadership.
You guys would be better off taking any old hobo off the street and making him President than choosing from the apparently totally corrupt and clueless bunch currently on offer.
Mitt Romney in 2008 looks pretty good
Truly the Americano philander's affair with the smarmy Saudi elites is the most repugnant in recent memory.
Hugh,
While Ahmidinijad hosts the Holocaust deniers, we elect and applaud the Islamofascist deniers. This deserves acute attention:
"A very few, who have spent a long time in the West, can appear to have acquired the habits of thought of Western man. And a very few of those may actually manage to do so." Putting it crudely, "use it or lose it."
&
allat,
Oh. Ugh. But we do need to bear witness to evil in order to combat it, so thanks for the opportunity.
Well, I had a good laugh!
It's obvious bush has a propensity - as do the islamics. Certainly there's the article, in this here very site about the men in afghanistan and their use of young boys. Now I can't find it. It was sickening - because to them it's something normal.
In the way of balance - in this world - that is a realm of duality ---- polarity - the're NO getting away from it. No matter how you may try. It's day - night - left right - up - down - good - bad - YANG - YING!
FEMALE - MALE
THAT IS THE BALANCE IN THE SCALE!
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As a side line - I got the Spencer books fr the library - "Truth about Muhammad" and "Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam"............ (uhm, I love being pc incorrect - I'm a maverick! - Heretic - YAHOOOO! -
truth to tell - I knew quite a bit about the history of islam before - but with this site - I'm becoming aware of it's machinations present time - and would you say, the politics of "The Prince" are there. NOT because islamics read Machiavelli - but because the politics are product of the "evil" archons!?
But really, I tried to read those Spencer books, and the more I read, the more sickened in my soul I'm getting.
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Allat,
The good news is that you will have a new capacity to deal with what comes in the dark night.
The bad news is that your new capacity means that you will be dealing with crap the likes of which you can't imagine.
But hey . . .
'cuz up from the ground come a bubblin' crude.
We need to complain and that means taking the time to write to the senators on the energy committee. If one letter is equivalent to 40-50 voters then let your voices be heard. The 2007 energy is laying on the floor of the Senate and no one is pushing for it. If its not acted on most of the research recipients will take a cut. We cannot let this happen. GET INVOLVED
"Why has the American government not read Saudi Arabia the riot act?"
Posted by: Hugh
Silly Hugh. Has he not heard of the "Rhyming Esdrújulas with Feminine Endings" explanation?
"Has he not heard of the "Rhyming Esdrújulas with Feminine Endings" in this re.
But how do these apply?
"Rhyming Esdrújulas with Feminine Endings
whats that mean?
Too bad those weren't "kisses of death".
Posted by: venividivici
But they were. For us.
I've been just sent this by Alan Caruba. Your readers may find it of interest.
Who is Avigdor Lieberman?
By Alan Caruba
In mid-December, at the invitation of the Middle East Forum, I attended a luncheon in New York whose featured speaker was Avigdor Lieberman, a Deputy Prime Minster of Israel. He wants the Arabs out of Israel. It cannot be done.
Lieberman is staring at the glacial destruction of Israel by demography; the way populations grow or decrease. For Israel, the numbers do not bode well.
Israel’s Muslim population poses the ultimate threat to its existence. In 1949, there were 110,000 Muslim Arabs, nine percent of the population. By 2005 there were 1,141,000 or sixteen percent. They are, as Daniel Pipes, the Middle East specialist describes them, “a robust, assertive community whose leaders include a Supreme Court justice, an ambassador, members of the parliament, academics, and entrepreneurs.”
Lieberman is also designated the Israeli Minister of Strategic Affairs, a post created for him by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert when Lieberman’s new party won enough seats in the Knesset to make him a power broker. Neither the liberal members of Olmert’s coalition, nor Israel’s Arab lawmakers were too pleased. Previously, Lieberman had been credited with revitalizing Likud, enabling Ariel Sharon to become Prime Minister.
For a man with radical views, Lieberman is not an orator, but rather a very soft-spoken fellow. The Jewish power elite of New York who crowded the spacious 25th floor conference room of the law firm of Weil Gotshal & Manges appeared to like everything he had to say, but likely were not considering the impossibility of his proposal.
Lieberman wants Israel’s Arabs to take a loyalty oath or lose voting privileges in national elections and the right to hold national office, and he wants to expel Arab, i.e. Muslim politicians from the Knesset, the equivalent of Congress. Without the loyalty oath, Muslims would become “permanent residents” without the power influence the future of Israel.
The irony of this is that Islam has always had a second-class citizen status for infidels. They were called “dhimmi”, subject to taxes and regulations in ways Muslims were not.
For Lieberman the issue is loyalty. How long can a Zionist nation, i.e., a nation established by and for Jews, exist with a growing Muslim population? The answer is that it can’t. Many minority groups would prefer a nation of their own, but most must settle for integration into a larger population.
The Jewish Diaspora, despite pogroms and centuries of persecution, had survived, but a European-based Zionist movement in the late 1800’s, responding to widespread anti-Semitism, and later the Nazi Holocaust, convinced many Jews that only a Jewish state would insure continued survival.
Author and former Pentagon strategist, Thomas P.M. Barnett, in a recent blog responded to a question that asked whether Israel could survive as a strictly Jewish state. He said that, in an “increasingly globalized world”, this was highly unlikely. For any nation, “It all boils down to this question, can anybody become a full citizen of your state? Or are they restricted by reasons of race and/or religion?”
This is a particularly thorny issue these days as Muslim populations continue to grow throughout Europe, Great Britain, and elsewhere in the world. Many states do put strict conditions on who can become a citizen, but it is doubtful that Israel could or would pursue Lieberman’s plan.
Lieberman said he believes Arabs would be happier living among other Arabs. This has been demonstrated in Israel when communities that formerly had large Christian or Jewish populations became predominantly Arab and gave them reason to leave. Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus, is now nearly bereft of Christians.
Even in Europe today, there are predominantly Muslim areas in cities and towns where non-Muslims are not welcome.
As the arithmetic of demography grinds on, Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah, and other Islamist groups could achieve their goal of “eliminating” Israel without firing a shot. They need only wait a generation or so. Exiled from Israel by the Romans in 70 A.D., Jews may suffer this fate again. “The Arabs in Israel will destroy us,” said Lieberman.
Of the Arab-Israeli conflict, Lieberman said, “It is a dispute about our values. It is not about territory.” The values in contention are those of the West versus those of the Islamists. “It’s a fight between two civilizations.”
For nearly sixty years, Israel has been a strategic asset in the Middle East, but as doubts creep in about its ability and willingness to defend itself, it could lose needed support from the U.S. government. It has none in Europe. Meanwhile Palestinian factions continue to kill each other with abandon.
Lieberman said he was hopeful that “a new generation of Palestinians” would hold the key to ending the conflict that has plagued Israelis before and since 1948 when they declared their independence because “land for peace doesn’t work.” That much is true and it is useful to keep in mind that Israel is half the size of California’s San Bernardino County!
Lieberman dismissed the notion that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict had anything to do with other problems in the Middle East, but the real problem is that the Middle East is ruled by despots and monarchs, and remains the one region that, other than providing oil, wants to remain detached from the rest of the world. It thrives on oppression, guarantees no human rights, and has weak economies that provide few jobs and a bleak future for its people.
America’s evangelicals and Christians around the world believe that Israel, populated by Jews, must exist for the return of Christ Jesus. That hope, like the one Zionists harbor, grows more distant with every passing day.
Alan Caruba writes a weekly column, “Warning Signs”, posted on the Internet site of The National Anxiety Center, www.anxietycenter.com. His book, “Right Answers: Separating Fact from Fantasy”, is published by Merril Press.
© Alan Caruba, January 2007
"Rhyming Esdrújulas with Feminine Endings"
-- earlier posting
"whats that mean?"
-- later posting by someone else
Esdrujula (Sp.), sdrucciola (It.), a word with the accent falling on the antepenult.
Examples of such "esdrujula" words are:
Cupidity
Stupidity
Timidity
Rigidity
These words chimingly characterize the policies of many Western governments, over the past thirty years, as nothing was understood about what the Muslim recipients of ten trillion dollars would inevitably do with it, nothing understood about what the admission of millions of Muslims to the countries of Western Europe would inevitably lead to, no ability to understand the connection between one local Jihad and the next, no ability to face down the demands of Muslim organizations, or states, or groups living within the Bilad al-kufr, no ability to change course, to see things aright and plan accordingly.
Because of the OPEC trillions, and all the arms and favors from Western hirelings that those trillions brought, the doctrine of Jihad has been dusted off from a desuetude that was the result not of a lack of will, but of a lack of way, and now that the way is there, the will is certainly there.
For more google "Esdrujula Explanation" and "Jihad Watch" and "Posted by Hugh."
The earlier poster describes these as "rhyming esdrujulas." Yes, in a sense, for the antepenult, penult, and final syllables in all four words do, in a sense, rhyme (and with "cupidity" and "stupidity" the first syllables also rhyme). But the rhyming is useful only as a mnemonic device, and otherwise such similar-ending dactyls do not please an English ear. In Spanish it is a different matter.
Hugh you well know that your questions are rhetorical and would never be answered by Bush or anyone in the government (Dhimmicrat or Repugnican).
Just as important and a question or issue not raised on Jihad Watch is that Dick Cheney was summoned (that's correct) summoned to Saudi Arabia by King Abudullah..for what purposes? No one knows, because it has never been mentioned in the MSM, not even the so called liberal MSM and certainly not in the right wing MSM (which is the majority of all media).
Not a word, not a peep. not even on Jihad Watch, whyzat?
According to this , Saudi King Abdullah issued a warning to Vice President Cheney during his one day summoned visit to Saudi Arabia. His nation would provide financial support and aid to Iraqi Sunnis if the United States pulled its troops out of Iraq
Get that King Abdullah can summon the Vice President of the U.S. who drops everything and flies in to get reamed by his master.
Does the flunky drop everything and rush when summoned by his master, or does the master drop everything and rush when summoned by his flunky?
And in a world where the U.S. is suppose to be the superpower, what's with Cheney dropping his dinner fork and rushing to meet Abdullah?
"Saudi King Abdullah...during [Cheney's] one day summoned visit to Saudi Arabia. His nation would provide financial support and aid to Iraqi Sunnis if the United States pulled its troops out of Iraq."
-- from a posting above
No idea if that is true. But if it is, why should the United States care? The correct response to such a "warning" is -- go right ahead. Pour in everything you want" volunteers, military equipment, lots and lots of Saudi money that otherwise might go to building mosques all over the West. We won't stop you.
allat stated:
"Certainly there's the article. . . about the men in afghanistan and their use of young boys. Now I can't find it. It was sickening - because to them it's something normal."
The articles are posted in various places . . .here are some recent links -
FOXNews.com - Kandahar Men Return to Original Love: Teenage Boys
FrontPage magazine.com :: Boys of the Taliban by Jamie Glazov
Kandahar's Lightly Veiled Homosexual Habits - Los Angeles Times
Startled marines find Afghan men all made up to see them The Scotsman
Examples of such "esdrujula" words are:
Cupidity
Stupidity
Timidity
Rigidity
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