Because the U.S., the U.K., and Israel are trying to drive Sunnis and Shi'ites apart. And you know they loved each other so much before the Western powers came along. From Reuters, with thanks to Doc Washburn:
TEHRAN (Reuters) - The commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards said on Sunday the United States, Britain and Israel were an "axis of evil" trying to drive a wedge between Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims.President Bush originally labeled Iran, North Korea and Iraq -- before U.S. troops invaded -- as part of an "axis of evil." Washington accuses Iran of backing terrorism and trying to build atomic bombs, charges Tehran denies.
"America, Britain and the Zionist regime (Israel) are an axis of evil against the Islamic world and the whole of humanity," Guards Commander-in-Chief Yahya Rahim Safavi was quoted as saying by Iran's student news agency ISNA.
"They are trying to make enmity among Islamic countries and to make divisions among Shi'ites and Sunnis," he said.
He was echoing comments by other Iranian officials who have accused Washington of stoking sectarian tensions in Iraq where the majority of Iraqis are Shi'ite Muslims, like most Iranians. Washington blames Iran for fuelling violence in Iraq.
"Our powerful country does not worry about American and Zionist regime threats and in case of any kind of attack by intruders, we are able to defeat them," he added.
Yes, i guess the Western " Axis of Evil" made those Iraqi Shiits and Sunni Muslims Blow themselves up in each others Mosques?
I'm wetting my pants with laughter after reading this. Satan Khomeini was wrong-Islam is quite humorous.
"Our powerful country does not worry about American and Zionist regime threats and in case of any kind of attack by intruders, we are able to defeat them," he added.
Didn't Saddam Hussein once say this?
The Mother Of All Losers!
Here in the US, the real Axis of Evil is Clinton, Kerry and Kennedy.
And I love how they defend Iran by saying that "The Bush Administration blames Iran for their own failures" (Kennedy), when the truth is, the Iraqis I met in Iraq told me specifically that the insurgency was started, grown in its first few months, and spread primarily by Iranian and Syrian fighters.
That's Iran and Syria, folks. From the mouth of an Iraqi.
I'm scruffysmileyface, and I approve this comment.
Prez Mahmoud is looking at all those purty MIGs and thinking he can deal with the FA 18 Hornets on the decks of the carriers steaming to the shores of Persia.
But those are peacemakers. What he really needs to worry about are those ballistic missile submarines that the US Navy has had lurking 400 ft under the Indian Ocean for a quite a while now. Just one D5 II Trident all MIRVed up could destroy a significant portion of Iran's population, and several of them could be donated by a single boomer.
Mahmoud should think about that, and about the fact that even Allah's total supply of 11 yr old virgins couldn't handle such a sudden and massive intake. Allah wouldn't want 30 million recently deceased Moslem men milling about all angry about having been duped, would he.
Pull the trigger on Israel; Persia disappears from the face of history (except as the world's communal dump for spent nuclear fuel rods.)
In other words, Persia would devolve from a sassy place to a glassy place.
"Our powerful country does not worry about American and Zionist regime threats and in case of any kind of attack by intruders, we are able to defeat them,"
Baghdad Bob's replacement: Tehran Tom.
TEHRAN (Reuters) - The commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards said on Sunday the United States, Britain and Israel were an "axis of evil" trying to drive a wedge between Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims
Isn't this the same guy who has over 25000 suicide bombers at hand to send them out into all direction?
The idea that the US is 'trying to drive a wedge between Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims.' is not as stupid as it sounds. It might have been an accident, but it is a welcome side effect to the Bush Doctrine.
Edward Luttwak agrees: "President Bush has managed to divide and conquer the Middle East."
Posted by: Buck at January 15, 2007 09:07 AM
I remember that I heard Bush saying that they will do everything to split them, just before the invasion began. He said that he would bring terror back to the region where it originated.
He kept his promise.
All this from Iran and yet in the United States the Democratic party, and even elements of the Republican, are decrying the new +20,000 infusion of US troops into Iraq with venom and spite. So, I'm afraid that we have people holding off a needed attack on Iranian nuclear facilities because of the 2008 elections, and that is outrageous.
So many games being played with all our lives by a cadre of idiots and pocket-liners in Washington, DC. I often wonder how we can possibly win this war. As long as people like Biden, Pelosi and Hagel seem oblivious to the harsh fact that this conflict is global, is Islamic jihad and is not going to stop in any of our lifetimes, we are fighting uphill.
BTW, the new version of my site is online and fairly presentable. Check it out sometime. Much more in the works.
America, Britain and the Zionist regime (Israel) are an axis of evil against the Islamic world and the whole of humanity,"
Interesting - Judaeo/Christian nations being accused of being evil towards Islamic anti-Christian nations and "the whole of HUMANITY"
I see the above reference 'whole of humanity' as humanism - which is of course a man-made religion that seeks to include all of humanity and all issues common to human beings.
Can I refer to this as a 'spiritual' war yet, or do we require more evidence?
Hey! Not fair, what about Australia? We're in this fight for freedom too.
"axis of evil" trying to drive a wedge between Shi'ite and Sunni muslims. Oh please someone tell the US administration the truth regarding these sects before they actually believe it and the dimmicrats take full advantage of it...
Ok I’m confused, what a surprise! Axis of Evil, there is an X in Axis and the Saudis are banning… the evil X. It’s a tilted cross don’t ya know. The battle of the X’s, who will be victorious? Sunni? Shia? Both? Don’t touch that dial, more, important irrelevant stuff to come.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/01/saudis_to_ban_l.html
Axis of Evil, I thought they said the Pres. was an idiot? Why then do they all copy him?
tgusa, outside of genocide and murder, islamists have nothing original to say so they revert to turnspeak.
They get funnier and funnier every day.
So the US and the Zionist regime sent Zarqawi into Iraq to attack Sunnis and start a civil war?
The US and the Zionist regime must have had a hand in the original dispute that split Sunnis and Shiites fourteen hundred years ago.
The US and the Zionist regime must have had a hand in forcibly turning Iran from a Sunni to a Shiite country in the 1500s.
Who knew the US and the Zionist regime had the ability to travel through time? Now that's power!
Somewaht off topic:
For you military experts out there, couldn't someone drop an EMP bomb over Iran? Wouldn't that destroy their electrical and electronic systems and set back their nuclear ambitions for quite some time, without catastrophic destruction?
So the US and the Zionist regime sent Zarqawi into Iraq to attack Sunnis and start a civil war?
Make that "attack Shiites".
It is bizarre for any Iranian to describe non-Muslims, and especially Americans, of attempting to "drive a wedge" between Sunnis and Shi'a. The wedge has existed since the first century of Islam. The doctrine of taqiyya originates in Shi'a Islam as a way for Shi'a to protect themselves from Sunnis. The attacks by Sihaba-e-Sahaba on Shi'a in Pakistan are not prompted by the United States, Britain, or Israel. The miserable status of the Shi'a in Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with the United States, Britain, or Israel. Nor the Shi'a fretting under a Sunni ruler in Bahrain. Nor the way in which the Shia have been treated by Sunnis in Lebanon. And it makes no sense to describe the efforts of the Americans in Iraq, which are predicated on the dreamy belief that the split between Sunni and Shi'a can be bridged, and which the Americans have devoted so much time to bridging -- not least by pressuring the Shi'a to put in place an oil-revenue sharing agreement -- one which will not last, for the Shi'a will never share the oil to the extent that is being asked of them, nor should they, given what they have endured at the hands of successive Sunni regimes.
It is bizarre when an Iranian makes such a charge. And if anyone else makes the claim that Bush has caused this "rift" that too is both inaccurate and dangerous. It is inaccurate because the removal of Saddam Hussein did not cause such a rift, or widen a pre-existing one; it only made possible the transfer of power to the Shi'a so that they might dominate, as their numbers now apparently entitle them, Iraq as the Sunnis did before them.
If Edward Luttwak attempted to give credit to Bush for causing this split, then he has misunderstood the depth and duration of the split. And in attributing this split to the Bush policy, anyone who analyzes the matter is showing an indifference or ignorance of the depth and duration of the divide, and furthermore providing ammunition for those who, like the head of the Iranian guards above, wishes to blame the United States.
No doubt there will be more of this nonsense about how swimmingly Sunni and Shi'a got along until those wicked Infidels, through their machinations and manipulations, caused such a split. It's nonsense, whether written by an Iranian guard, or some Sunni politician in Iraq forgetting how the Sunnis treated the Shi'a -- someone like Adnan Pachachi -- or whether suavely asserted by Edward Luttwak.
sounder,
Sure, if they had any substantial electrical grid above ground they relied on. However, considering much of their population is semi post stone age, they don’t rely on electricity like we do. Plus they don’t give a darn about the average citizen anyway. In addition, unless they are stupid (which is quite possible) they would have their nuke lab power grid isolated and buried. Still it could cause a lot of problems. The latest rage is a nuke detonation in the stratosphere. They are not too bright, the world is round and it spins as well, so fallout would be pretty much global. I wouldn’t call me an expert though, we might have devised a way to penetrate the earth with an EMP already.
The real axis of evil is Russia China Iran and Venezuela. Oil and natural gas exports and imports unite them. Also weapons, missiles, nuclear technology imports/exports. These four are against us. You have three major oil/gas producers and China which is the most aggressive pursuer of long term oil/energy supply contacts most noticeably Iran and Venezuela
This is the revenge of the browner third world peoples against the Anglos of the United States, Europeans too. Revenge of the Russians against Western Europe though with Russia it's mostly old fashioned greed that motivates them to extort their oil/gas customers every winter. Did anyone notice how Russia seized half of Royal Dutch Shell's interest in the Sakhalin Island oil/gas project?
Moslems always seem to be clamoring for attention, don't they?
It makes you wonder how many Iranians are convinced their biggest threat is the big bad USA, or the nutjob leading their country down the path to anhilation?
Troops in Iraq (and Afghanistan) cannot be used to launch a land invasion of Iran, given the terrain, and given the experience of the Iraqi's in the 80's, it wouldn't be advisible either. Instead, nukes over their various nuclear reactors in Isfahan, Natanz, Bushehr, Yazd, et al would be a lot more reliable, and would produce the much required 'shock & awe' not just from Iran itself, but from the carping members of the UN. Just do it once, and let Iran unravel. Not only is the fragmentation of Iraq desirable - the same is true about Iran. And Saudi Arabia. And Lebanon. And other Islamic paradises in the Mid East.
This Iranian Guard is a complete MORON! Of course he's only repeating what his demonic religion is telling him to believe.
Radical Islam -- the religion of hate.
Infidel Pride:
I wasn't suggesting that we should do a ground invasion of Iran. What I'm suggesting is that the US military will not be allowed to do anything to stop Iran -- until it is too late and a nuclear bomb is made and undoubtedly proliferated into the hands of terrorist groups to use on American soil. This is how wary I am of the current Democratic Party and the wafflers in the rest of Congress.
I really am starting to believe that we will not strike while the iron is hot. We continue to show signs of true weakness as a nation that will destroy us. It is exactly what the jihadists believe and they are counting on it forcing us back once again. We have no stomach for conflict and we have no resolve to use liberal amounts of force when necessary to stay out of prolonged conflict either -- quite the Catch 22.
Iran's nuclear capability must be destroyed.
And in reference to some comments about EMPs -- I think you all better be made aware, if you aren't already, that the US government and military are extremely concerned about an EMP attack upon the USA. It is a very real possibility and it could have devastating effects. Just one successful EMP over our power grid framework and imagine the chaos -- computers down, power offline, phones, street lights, traffic lights, etc., etc.
This is not some fairy tale -- I heard about this threat on Fox News during one of their panel discussion a couple of weeks ago.
The jihadists are out there and they won't stop. Not until we finally get our heads out of the sand and call this conflict what it is: War with Islam.
Hey.. the islamos have benn playing both sides against the middle in the West..
Bribing the so-called "conservatives" and playing the "woe-is-poor-and-persecuted-islam" fiddle to the Left.
if ***ONLY*** our actions served to divide them and get them to fight amongst themselves!!
IF ONLY!!
Come on Iran, You have thought up original insults before.
Why do you have to stoop to stealing phrases from a good ole boy from Texas?
You muslims are superior aren't you.
I'm sooo diappointed.
Foehammer, you are straight to the point as usual. Bush did say on 60 Minutes yesterday that the US is in a war against an idealogy, a little step up from a war against terror.
The real axis of evil is Russia China Iran and Venezuela. Oil and natural gas exports and imports unite them.
You forgot the main player: Sowdi Arabia. They've been fomenting in the background ever since this dread House of Sowd came to power. Now that they have our politicians and media firmly in hand they foment rather openly.
"...driving a wedge between Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims..."
Well, yeah. We call it Divide and Conquer. Admitedly, it doesn't work as quickly or as effectively as Cruise missles, but it's a start.
"America, Britain and the Zionist regime (Israel) are an axis of evil against the Islamic world and the whole of humanity," Guards Commander-in-Chief Yahya Rahim Safavi was quoted as saying.
This is the quote that galls me; to imply that the Islamic world is the whole of humanity, and is the enemy here, is just a hoot!
Tehran Tom, indeed.
Just words. All he's done has been insults.
He wants to provoke the West into making the 1st move in a war. That way, he can excuse himself.
The jihadists are out there and they won't stop. Not until we finally get our heads out of the sand and call this conflict what it is: War with Islam.
Posted by: Foehammer
Awesome work, Foehammer. I am glad you;re sticking with it. Thank you sincerely!!
Boomerang Tehran - Bush says "Axis of Evil" and it comes straight back. He should say "Iran loves America" and see what happens.
@ Sounder:
I have to be straight to the point. Too few are, and frankly, I can't be any other way.
I missed the 60 Minutes interview, but I did catch Chris Wallace interviewing Dick Cheney, and Cheney keeps inching closer and closer to the real deal.
He said something along the lines of: "We are in a war that will endure for 20-30 years."
If that's not a war with something greater than a "tiny minority of extremists" then what the Hell is it?! The United States beat down Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany and toppled the Soviet Union through cunning, political subterfuge and setting a better example for the world, and yet, here we are, supposedly at odds with "insurgents" and "militants" and our Vice President, formerly a Sec. of Defense, is pronouncing that we will be in this war for 30 years.
Think on that. I'm telling you -- the truth is so obvious and ugly, nobody wants to look at it.
History repeats itself.
@ MeanieMo:
Thanks. I'm blogging full-time now. My mortgage is on the line. That's how much I believe in this cause.
I put my money where my mouth is.
MeanieMo
Saudi Arabia is in no way aligned with either Iran Russia China or Venezuela. Its role is to poison Muslim minds worldwide with Jihad ideology and fundamentalist Wahhabi ideology. Saudi spews these toxins like no one else
Hugh said,
"If Edward Luttwak attempted to give credit to Bush for causing this split, then he has misunderstood the depth and duration of the split."
Nice post, Hugh. I agree 100%. Without giving direct or indirect credit to Bush, for in reality he deserves none, you do agree that whatever by-product of our involvement in Iraq has caused, like secterian violence on a grander scale, it is advantageous for the West in our war against Islam, don't you?
Isn't this a case of the ends justifying the means, or lack thereof? I personally do not care about the reason why the Sunni / Shia rift originated, merely that it exists today, and can be furthered and accentuated above all.
Hugh said
Who in the media will stand up and correct this fabrication that is being peddled to us? If no-one, then this new lie ("Sunnis and Shi'ites lived in peace until the U.S. fomented a split") will join the old lie ("Muslim anti-Semitism is a reaction to the theft of 'Palestinian' lands"), and once a lie becomes "common wisdom", it becomes that much more difficult to eradicate. Repeated enough times, these lies become "true" for those who unthinkingly parrot them.
So can anyone stop this lie before it gets any more momentum? Will they?
Alright, so this time (according to Iran) we get to play the evil Axis, and they are the freedom-fighting Allies. Right. According to Iran.
But we'll still win, and the victor is the one who gets to write the history.
Off topic:
The Burka Band
Ummah News Links
What do you call a government that kidnaps people in order to press free convicted assassins?
This is what Iran is doing:
http://www.sheikyermami.com/
Henry, here’s the scoop as I see it and this won't help you sleep better, sorry for that!
The so called moderates are accessory to the world situation right now. We let these people into our countries, house them, school them, give welfare, protect them under our laws and freedoms, in fact provide haven from the unfavorable conditions from which they came. Then, our so very tolerent society allows and supports them building mosques for their religious freedom, of course a freedom we also cherrish. It is the moderates that make this possible, after all, our governments wouldn't allow extremists to build mosques per se, then, surprise, in come the clerics, imams, whatever you want to call them, and the hate speeches and incitement to jihad starts within our own communities while we aren't looking or listening or understanding for that matter. At the same time, the so called moderates allow this stuff to continue, un-challenged. I don't see any hate spewing imams, clerics being expelled from the mosques, by their own community, nor do I see any unequivocal public and high profile condemnations or refuting actions by organizations such as CAIR.
So, if the moderates are NOT for extremism, openly and proactively, then they must be for it. CAIR, one of Islam’s greatest defenders in America, for example, wants to silence media personalities who even speak out against the Islamic extremists. (e.g Glenn Beck). Thus, I think we have a big, growing, and little understood problem.
Lets assume (or pretend, if you wish) most Muslims are moderate, for the moment. We could deal with a "tiny few extremists" if that's all there were, however, the few extremists that exist are SO violent and SO hateful, fed by their idealogy, they bear, or will bear, great influence on the so called moderates, everywhere.
The moderates, who continue to let extremism go unchallenged or if for no other reason than self preservation, will have to make a choice as Islam grows more and more violent and influential and unchallenged thru ought the world. Thus, the so called moderates will have to pick a side, someday. I wonder which side it will be? I’m sure they already know.
I get it...so it was axis of "Bush, Blair, and Sharon" who time-traveled back into the 7th century to murder Husayn, Ali, Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman, causing the Islamic wedgie we see today!
Please people, you don't get the psychology of this. When Iran states it is "not afraid" of Israel or America, FEAR is on their minds and they are terrified by what America or Israel may do.
If they are talking about the west, George Bush is getting at them and they are worried.
The silent leaders are the one's you worry about most, because they are secure in their lurking and planning something. Barking dogs don't bite, but it is necessary for America that America cripples the barking dog of Iran so it's people can rise up and join the civilized world.
As usual, they are copycats. G. W. Bush first came up with "Axis of Evil."
There is nothing original in our enemy's arsenal. All has been purloined, robbed, snatched.
And twisted.
As in hockey: It is time to have the ref pull back and let the pent up players go at it with an anthem to Allah in the background. They can suicide bomb each other but no more American or Western troops dying. How do you get stability in the Middle East when the theology that grips the mindset is fabricated by an ego maniac stuck dead in the 7th century? Here is the ultimate manifestation of Islam: war and death until some of the reasonable minds who have escaped the prison of the soul that it demands rise up against it. Hatred always seeks to erase itself whereby, Love seeks to creat itself. There is little love in the Middle Eastern Muslimland but plebty of hatred.
should be: plenty of hatred.
To me it seems Muslims in the West are trying to get Christians and Atheists against each other only for Muslims to gain their rights whilst the Christians have to take their 1cm wide crosses off, take all crosses out of schools (Italy) and now new grave stones without religious markings so that Muslims feel at home when they arrive like two months into their stay into the Western country when you and your great great parents have built upon a now established Christian loving culture the religion of LOVE. Ok we deserve some backlash we are trying to Democratise Iraq. But even so the Satanic verses was written a while before the Iraq war and the writer was wanted dead or alive as in the UK.
Something funny,
http://www.nicedoggie.net/2007/?p=24
Ah, just read the Quran; it is the axis of evil !
OK this about says it all regarding the world they envision on a grand scale.
"The Palestinian Authority security forces have foiled an attempt by Hamas to assassinate senior PA leaders in the Gaza Strip, including PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah legislator Muhammad Dahlan, Palestinian security sources said Monday.
The sources said that over the past few days the security forces discovered a number of underground tunnels in the northern Gaza Strip that were dug along major roads used by PA and Fatah leaders. Some of the tunnels were also discovered beneath the homes of top Fatah officials in the same area, the sources said.
Abdel Hakim Awad, a senior Fatah official in the Gaza Strip, said tons of explosives were discovered in the tunnels, some of which were traced back to the interior of Hamas-controlled mosques".
You can read it all at,
sorry,
http://ace.mu.nu/
"Because the U.S., the U.K., and Israel are trying to drive Sunnis and Shi'ites apart".
Posted by Robert
Now how could they be so heartless? Don't they know one shouldn't interfere with a match made in hell?
"Abdel Hakim Awad, a senior Fatah official in the Gaza Strip, said tons of explosives were discovered in the tunnels, some of which were traced back to the interior of Hamas-controlled mosques".
.....Fatag has hidden explosives too!... they just have not been found yet....
“hidden explosives”
I got it, we are the axis of evil. They are the axis of weasels. I can only hope for premature detonation. Now there is an idea for SF, blow their explosive stockpiles in place, they are living right on top of ammo dumps, the dummies. Judging by the interlaced tunnel system there could be a major chain reaction. Heck the whole place might go up for just a few bucks.
I have tried to find it, but without success: a quote, apparently of Neville Chamberlain, sometime in the 1930's about muslims. For all his errors in dealing with Hitler, he seems to have at least got one thing right. Chamberlain said of muslims: "Let the mad dogs fight each
other". I'd be grateful if anyone could confirm this. It was told to me by a doctor in Bulgaria
who grew up under communism. If my understanding of Judo is correct, our western leaders
should use the same principles: defeat your opponent by using his own weight and aggression
to knock him off balance.