Jihad Video Encourages Bombings

Blow yourself up for the new year. From Israel Today, with thanks to James:

An Islamic website featured a three-minute video entitled, “Blow Yourself Up.”

The video shows a bomber reading his suicide note, vowing “that you [the Israeli ‘occupiers’] will not live in peace and that martyrdom [operations] will continue until you return to your homes, defeated and humiliated.”

The bomber then blows himself up as images of mangled bodies lay all around. “We have watered the soil with the blood of the martyrs, we have not withheld [our] blood from the soil,” the video reads. It closes with footage of the 9/11 attacks.

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I saw that video.. horrible, islamic propaganda at its worth.

If these idiots would do this in the comfort of their own homes they would be doing the world a great service.

This goes to show that any muslim within 100 yards of anyone else is a potential threat. Count me out on the “lets all get together and get along crowd”.

It would be an even better service if they continue doing it in the comfort of each other's mosques ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4887856.stm

Yeah, if they would ALL decide to splodydope the world would be a better place.

I am beginning to think that these folks' willingness to blow themselves up demonstrates on a deep unconscious level that they are in fact living a lie from cradle to grave and this is the only way out of the lie which still allows them to "save face". (Ironically, it is my impression that their faces usually do survive somewhat intact, even as the rest of their bodies are blown to bits.)In any case, despite the surface "bravado" involved, there certainly appears to be an air of desperation about the whole thing. And the way they feel the need to hype this whole martyrdom thing suggests a desperation unconsciously fueled by internal conflict and doubt.

It is perhaps the most idiotic set of rules in the history of man. You would have to be a retard to think it up and even slower to follow it. It is an abomination before God, there is no doubt, read the bible and the koran. It is as one great man once said... self evident.

Caroline,
If you have ever seen the aftermath of a bombing you will never forget the smell, the sounds, whimpering, mostly in the immediate aftermath. Then the ambulances rush in and it turns into semi kaos. And afterward we hear all the condemnation, but for many survivors live never is the same. So, who are we looking out for, the bombers or the bombed? The bombed are dead or destroyed while the bombers are pardoned. If they kill mine I will kill theirs. I don't like it as they do but I will protect my own.

What is needed is a device that detonates explosive devices at a certain safe distance from a check point of other vital access area.

This could or would cause "collateral casualties." The person invested with triggering the device would have to decide which would cause more "collateral casualties," detonation at a distance or near or at the intended target of the bomber.

Mobile devices could detonate incipient bombers in their homes, coffee shops, etc.

So, who are we looking out for, the bombers or the bombed? The bombed are dead or destroyed while the bombers are pardoned. If they kill mine I will kill theirs. I don't like it as they do but I will protect my own.

Posted by: tgusa at January 1, 2007 01:43 AM

Sooner or later, it will come down to doing whatever is necessary to protect ourselves. White House, Dept. of State and other politicians care less for Americans. Infact, does anyone else feel that Bush administration works more for Islamic terrorist states, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, than for USA? Well, I most certainly do. And I think I know the reasons why. But that is a different topic. What does one have to do to acquite a gun? I believe 2nd ammendment gives one right to bear arms. Whether one likes it or not, to survive, one will have to exercise that right.

You're quite welcome, Mother E, but I can't take credit for that one. it's used all the time by Misha and the others at the Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler. http://www.nicedoggie.net/2006

Did any one tell this splodydoper guy that the 25 G's from old Saddam will not be available any more.

Happy New Year to all who post here!!

Ive got some ideas about what would make it a Happy 2007. How about the rest of you?

Tgusa is right---self evident indeed! It is impossible, I mean IMPOSSIBLE, for Father God to have written both books. HE is Not schizophrenic!! HE cannot lie!! There is one the Bible calls the father of lies who created this total counterfeit called the Koran. How are you trained to spot phony money? You study the REAL bills until you can spot a counterfeit a mile away.

Look at the behaviour of both book's adherents. One group loves, one group hates. Which book's followers exhibit the very essence of God? This is an easy answer. Its an open book test. Ha,ha.

(p.s. Heres a helpful hint. One book says God "IS" Love)

tgusa: "And afterward we hear all the condemnation, but for many survivors live never is the same."

tgusa - I have had the good fortune to have never experienced a terrorist attack personally. But I have an active imagination. News sources typically dwell on the number of deaths, when in reality there are at least as many people seriously injured in these attacks. People burned over much of their bodies, people blinded, people with their limbs blown off. How come these people are not given any air time to tell their stories - about how Islamic terrorism has changed their lives forever? I recall seeing one such story on Discovery, I believe, about a man who survived the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon and whose face was literally melted away. It was a story about plastic surgery - face transplants as I recall. There are thousands of such stories by now and we almost never see them told.

Yes, Caroline, my question over the last 30 + years. Complicity at the highest levels? Have the enemy infiltrated our guvment? We need to start a no fee organization; many anti jihaders are not wealthy. But what they bring to the table is immense; the shooting, stalking ambush ability will save us all. I say give every American free Internet” broadband” then we can see what we Americans really think!

unicorns62000,
Back to the drawing board, I don’t want to inadvertently be in the area when you detonate. Use some modern technology. Please! EMP

Minnisota Congressman elect, Keith Ellison says islamophobia is caused by ignorance. But this jihadi video is all the education you need about Islamist beliefs and behaviors. If nothing else, this video justifies the phenomenon of "islamophobia".

Merry 2007,
The year of the jihadist exposure. Do you all not understand there is no comprise regarding their ideology, they cant stop themselves, it is inevitable.

I can't be happier,
Civil war in Iraq. Fighting among all jihadist entities. What is wrong with this picture?


Am I bad ? Explain? Consider me stupid.

Mother Ecclesiastica, Are you really a Nun? I expect a reply. And don’t play games with what is acpcetable and what is not. I am not an idiot so come prepared if you want to debate me.

I didnt think so.

tgusa / Mother E ~ we really need a tongue-in-cheek emoticon sometimes, so people can figure out when one is pulling their leg.... Happy New Year to both of you *g*

guide inside,

"Tgusa is right---self evident indeed! It is impossible, I mean IMPOSSIBLE, for Father God to have written both books. HE is Not schizophrenic!! HE cannot lie!! There is one the Bible calls the father of lies who created this total counterfeit called the Koran. How are you trained to spot phony money? You study the REAL bills until you can spot a counterfeit a mile away.

Look at the behaviour of both book's adherents. One group loves, one group hates. Which book's followers exhibit the very essence of God? This is an easy answer. Its an open book test. Ha,ha.

(p.s. Heres a helpful hint. One book says God "IS" Love)"

Also there is two ways of spoting phony money. One is by the use of a special pen that will change colors when it is marked on the money. Also look to see if there is an offical watermark, for example, like on the ten the words "We The People" which also has the design of Lady Liberty's torch arm.

The "special pen" in the case of the Bible, is how the "believers" of the greatest book in the history of the world is lived out in their everyday lives. The "offical watermark" is the famous words that you have posted "God IS Love".

A Happy 2007 for all who post at JW/DW.

when will these zombie islamist ever wake up to those who preach this go out and bomb yourself to bits.. are there any Immans body parts in those bomb belts? l dont think so, when they realize their leaderhip encourages other to do their bidding and other's children and not their own. otherwise they keep breeding braindead bombers.

I might be mistaken, but I doubt it. Jihad is not the problem. Rather, it is a symptom of the problem. The problem is that Islam is the only major belief-system that gives any permission to deception. Deception is war and a kind of violence. It is but one step from deception to physical violence. Many Muslims will claim that Islam only permits deception under certain circumstances. But that misses the point: it allows for deception.

I am hardly a "good" Christian. But like many who have some knowledge of the teachings of Jesus, I am aware that Jesus mandated that ALL hypocrisy-deception "comes from the evil one". The roots of the behavior of the suicide-guy above and others like him are in deception. Though he himself is not deceptive, he does the work of people that are deceivers.

Many who claim to be "Christian" do deceive. However, Jesus said they were not his followers if they did that. There is a profound difference between Jesus and Mohammed. The difference is in their mandates re deception.

P.S. I do know the difference between a veil and a face-mask

Posted by: Mother Ecclesiastica


Could you be so kind as to enlighten us city-dwelling UK residents as to the difference?

Every day we see women (we assume) masking their faces with veils...

Now, if someone was wearing a face mask...the difference would be...ok, now i'm struggling...

Tommy Atkins

p.s. Please excuse my iSlumaphobia, I was brought up in a society where only the bad guys, IRA terrorists, Bank robbers, Ninjas and the Phantom Flan Flinger wore a mask and ALL were to be viewed with extreme mistrust.

(for those on the west bank of the big pond, you may need google for the PFF)

It is perhaps the most idiotic set of rules in the history of man. You would have to be a retard to think it up and even slower to follow it. It is an abomination before God, there is no doubt, read the bible and the koran. It is as one great man once said... self evident.

Posted by: tgusa

I have had an ongoing arguement with some hypocrit muslims( munifiqeen for going on 6 years who claim allah does not condone nor command muslims to commit suicide in the qu'ran.
Even after ive shown them clear evidence of the contrary they refuse to accept the fact that allah commands muslims to commit suicide and even state he would grant them an even bigger reward for doing so!
you decide!

SURAH 4-66-67,If We had commanded them to sacrifice their lives or to leave their homes, very few of them would have done it. Yet, if they would have done what they were commanded to do, it would have been better for them; not only would their faith have been strengthened,[66] but We would have given them an extra great reward on Our own[67] and also guided them to the Right Way

Tafsir al-Jalalayn
And had We prescribed for them: (the particle an, 'that', is explicative) 'Slay yourselves' or 'Leave your habitations,', as We did for the Children of Israel, they would not have done it, that is, what has been prescribed for them, save a few (read nominative qalīlun, as a substitution; or read accusative qalīlan, as an exceptive clause) of them; yet if they had done what they were admonished to do, of obedience to the Messenger (s), it would have been better for them, and stronger in establishing, [a stronger] confirmation of their faith.And then, that is, had they confirmed themselves, We would have surely given them from Us a great wage, that is, Paradise.

Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And if We had decreed for them) as We decreed for the Children of Israel: (Lay down your lives or go forth from your dwellings) empty handed, (but few of them) among the sincere ones, i.e. their leader Thabit Ibn Qays Ibn Shammas al-Ansari (would have done it) with a good disposition of the soul; (though if they) the hypocrites (did what they are exhorted) commanded (to do) of repentance and sincerity (it would be better for them) in the Hereafter than the condition they are in secret, (and more strengthening) and more real in this world;(And then) if they did what they were commanded to do (We should bestow upon them from Our presence) from Us (an immense reward) an abundant reward in Paradise,

It sure looks to me as though allah is commanding his muslims to commit suicide if their messenger(leader) commands it of them!
Im told by muslims ive got the wrong translation of the qu'ran and i need different tafsirs other than the ones ive posted!

I wonder with all its secret services admirably organized, its satellite espionage systems tracking all over the globe, isn't time is ripe for the west as well as non-Muslim nations worldwide start thinking about giving the islamofascists a taste of their own medicine ?

Like hiring a few thugs among Muslims (on payroll) who would blow themselves up amidst a crowd of Muslims during pilgrimage to Mecca in retaliation to every bombing act by them?

During late 1970's the legendary Mossad did a fantastic job by hunting down the rabid killers of black September.

How about a retaliatory strike against a mosque in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan etc ?

Nobody would claim responsibility and as each prayer from the muezzin are followed by a series of blasts and Parvez Musarraf, King Fart and other so-called allies would seriously consider stopping playing theater.

I have excluded AhmadiNejad and Assad on purpose for at least they have been showing their true faces and don't act like a wolf disguised as sheep.

For every bomb going off in Israel or in western town, a destruction of a holy place in Saudi arabia in particular would be very effective in correcting this shit country and forcing the saudis to think twice before financing their mosque terror centers.

If they are so keen about the explosions, let them explode in their holy places..

I am just thinking out loud...

As in the hit song (by Imagination) maybe "Just an Illusion"..

Maybe..

The Jihad war terrorists are much more media savvy than us anti-Dhimmis. They understand the power of mass communications when combined with fearless content.

So, where are the anti-Dhimmi videos? And before you point to Islam: What the West Needs to Know, watch it again and count the references to moderate Islam in the form of words such as radical. Always genuflecting towards the good, solid, normal Islam that we all know is there. Or should be. Maybe. But anyway, is always there in anti-Dhimmi communications, at least those not drafted by Spencer or Fitz.

Islam: What the West Needs to Knowis what I term fearful content.

I wonder with all its secret services admirably organized, its satellite espionage systems tracking all over the globe, isn't time is ripe for the west as well as non-Muslim nations worldwide start thinking about giving the islamofascists a taste of their own medicine ?

Like hiring a few thugs among Muslims (on payroll) who would blow themselves up amidst a crowd of Muslims during pilgrimage to Mecca in retaliation to every bombing act by them?
Posted by: Icarus_Project

Oh no no no Icarus, that would make the muslims mad, and we wouldnt want that now would we?
You will be deleted and censured for even suggesting such a thing!
Even though that is exactly what allah commands is the recompense for an injury!

SURAH 42:40,,,The recompense for an injury is an injury proportionate to it; but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation he shall be rewarded by Allah; He does not like the wrongdoers.[40] """Those who avenge themselves when wronged cannot be blamed."""[41]
Tafsir al-Jalalayn : surah 42}40-41
For the requital of an evil deed is an evil deed like it: the latter is [also] referred to as 'an evil deed' because in [outward] form it resembles the former; this is evident in what concerns retaliation for wounds. Some [scholars] say that even if another were to say, 'May God disgrace you!', then one should respond [equally] with, 'May God disgrace you!'. But whoever pardons, his wrongdoer, and reconciles, the amity between himself and the one pardoned, his reward will be with God, that is to say, God will give him his reward without doubt. Truly He does not like wrongdoers, that is, those who initiate acts of wrongdoing and so merit His punishment.And whoever defends himself after he has been wronged, that is to say, after the wrongdoer has wronged him - for such, there will be no course [of action] against them, no blame [on them].

SURAH 5}45,,We ordained in Torah for them: "A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth and for a wound an equal retaliation." But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity it will be an act of atonement for him; """Those who do not judge by the Law which Allah has revealed, they are the wrongdoers."""[45]

Tafsir al-Jalalayn : surah 5}-45
And therein, in the Torah, We prescribed, We made obligatory, for them that a life, be slain in return, for a life, if it has slain one; and an eye, should be gouged out, for an eye, and a nose, is to be cut off, for a nose, and an ear, is to be amputated, for an ear, and a tooth, should be pulled out, for a tooth (a variant reading has the last four [nouns] in the nominative); and for wounds (read wa'l-jurūhu or wa'l-jurūha) retaliation', that is, the person is entitled to retaliate if this is feasible, as in the case of a hand or a leg; but in cases where one is not able to [retaliate], this is left to arbitration. Although this stipulation was prescribed for them, it is established in our Law; but whoever forgoes it, that is, retaliation, out of charity, able to restrain himself, then that shall be an expiation for him, of what he has done [of other sins]. Whoever does not judges according to what God has revealed, in the matter of retaliation and otherwise, those are the evildoers.

allah even states we are the wrong doers if we refuse to blow up their masjids if they bomb a church! Or we are the wrong doers if we refuse to bomb and kill muslims during their unholy days if they bomb nonmuslims during their holy days!


But shhhhhhh dont mention it!!!

Oh another point Icarus:
Muslims, muhammad and allah claim the qu'ran abrogates all previous scripture. So we kufar are obligated to abide by the laws allah revealed to muhammad!
In that case, as i understand the ayahs 42-40 and 5-45, we have been commanded by allah to bomb and destroy the holiest temple of islam in mekka the kabaa for the muslims bombing and destroying churchs and temples ,synagogues and religious statues of the nonmuslims!
But ofcourse pilgramage to the kabaa being one of the 5 pillars of islam, its destruction would totally destroy islam!
We couldnt have that now could we?
Why that would piss the muslims off and force them to attack ,rob, rape, torture, terrorize subdue, enslave and slaughter ( fight in the cause of allah) the nonmuslims!
I guess thats not really what they are doing and have been doing for the past 14 centuries!
So we dont want to piss the muslims off and get them started on some kind of jihad now do we?

Recall the useful and entertaining
Iraq's "Most Wanted" deck of cards

There is plenty of video identifying imams calling for 'jihad' against the US available online at MEMRI. The fact that there are no pious imams practicing what they preach is very telling - to us. It's obvious their brethren aren't willing to redirect their spiritual leaders to the "Islam is Peace" meme perpetually fed to the west.

Perhaps it's time to create another entertaining deck of "Most Wanted Jihadi" cards.

Here in the US,CAIR stifles any criticism of violent, hypocritical islam.

Turn the tables by taking these imams proud pious video taped displays of hatred, place a well chosen image of each offensive imam/jihadi carefully within crosshairs on a suited card.

Shall we play a game?

slodeydope has been used at LGF since 2002

http://www.zombietime.com/lgf_dictionary/

An Islamic website featured a three-minute video entitled, “Blow Yourself Up.”

But remember, in Islam, "blow yourself up" means a quiet, introspective, spiritual struggle. So don't try to take this video out of context, and "cherry-pick" the violent parts of it and only focus on those.

I have to reply to Caroline and some other comments regarding the "desperation" motivation for suicide bombers. This is what I had always thought before I began reading about Jihad. Indeed there are a few desperate and pathetic individuals who have done this. But most are not -- they are religiously motivated and consider themselves heroic. They are called "Shaheeds" (=witnesses), lauded as heros, and schools, playgrounds, civic centers and streets are named after them throughout the arab world. Schoolchildren in Palestine and, to a lesser degree elsewhere, list martyrdom for Allah as their number one lifetime aspiration.

Most martyrdom operations are carried out by people with "normal" lives. Most are well educated, come from "normal" middle class families. They leave long, articulate statements on paper and on video explaining what they hope to accomplish through their "martyrdom operations".

The problem is that we're fed this mythology about jihad being motivated by deep desperation flowing from cruel injustices. You heard it after 9/11: ultimately it's America's own fault because of their foreign policy. Now, most of us are intelligent enough to take these theories with a grain of salt, but they are repeated often enough it's very tempting to think that there must be a grain of truth at the core -- maybe if we just fixed their problems for them they would not want to attack us? Maybe they are just doing this because they are poor, pitiful and desperate?

Quite the opposite -- these operations are well-funded by some of the richest financiers in the world. Saudi Arabia (for one) has the highest per capita level of "charitable giving" in the world. You might ask, then, why must Christian charities like World Vision spend Billions to feed, cloth and school Islamic children in their backyard? (I, for one, sponsor a child in a muslim community.) Where are these tens of billions of Saudi "charitable donations" going each year? Well, to build enormous mosques throughout the west and stock the new "Dawah Centers" you see popping up all over, but also to the ongoing jihad, including suicide bombers. The rocket launchers used by kids on the street in Palestine against Israeli forces are not weapons of choice for miserably poor desperados: they are very expensive, high class weapons bankrolled by sugardaddies.

The bombers themselves, frankly, find our western explanations for their motivation insulting. Some put them down to Zionist propaganda.

Check out this interview with a Palestinian suicide bomber in which he explains how we've got it all wrong.

The big worry in Iran about the 40,000 men who have signed forms indicating they are ready to go on suicide missions? They are concerned that we are unable to understand martyrdom and may inadvertently interpret it as terrorism instead of the noble expression of islam that it is. Read it all

O.T
Muslims shout at Jesus' home:
'Islam will dominate the world'

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53574

But I thought Jesus was a Moslem prophet?

Interesting that the local Christians did not start killing these disrespecting Moslems, would the same be true if some Christians were to walk by Mo-HAM-mad’s boyhood tent and scream “home of the false prophet”, the Crusaders will dominate your world.

The Top "Hits on the Holiday Jihad Hit Parade"
sorry I don't have the soun link--you have to supply the melody.

Have yourself a Merry Little Jihad!
Blow the infidels away
from now on our troubles are
infidels to slay...
and have yourself a merry little jihad now....

Jihad to the world
The mahdi comes
Let us our bombs employ
while guts and blood
shrapnel and gore
repeat the sounding joy.....

O little bombs of martyrdom
how still we cheat and lie
while we the freaks of islam peace
wait for the time to strike
yet in our dark hearts rotteth
our vilest koran smells
oh join with us, come blow with
us the infidels to hell...

Dashing through the stuff
to make a strap on bomb
we add the fuse
the button press
and then it is all done!
Oh--Jingle Bombs Jingle Bombs
Blow yourself away
o what fun to strap one on
and blow yourself away....

Up on the mosque top
our imam calls
out jumps Ack-ma-genocide
out from the the sewer pipe
quick quick quick
we strap on our TNT
what a kick!
oh ho ho
who wouldn't blow
oh ho ho
who wouldn't blow....

I heard the bombs of jihad say,
their old familiar wreckage play
and wild and sweet
carnage complete
(religion)of peace on earth
islam to men....

Blow well Blow well
Blow well Blow well
blow up your-self
send them to hell...

Brought to you by the religion of pieces.

"Suicide is Painless"...Well, maybe...

Muslim sacrifices himself at famous shrine

Ummah News Links

Some sad news for the New Year. Did anyone hear about the bombings in Thailand? Apparently they haven't figured out who could be behind it. I think it is time thai authorities read this site. What ominous signs popping up worldwide this new year. The news everywhere is depressing.

Minnisota Congressman elect, Keith Ellison says islamophobia is caused by ignorance.

Posted by: Xero G

The congressman-elect is correct, if he drops off the "-ophobia".

Archimides2: "I have to reply to Caroline and some other comments regarding the "desperation" motivation for suicide bombers. This is what I had always thought before I began reading about Jihad. Indeed there are a few desperate and pathetic individuals who have done this. But most are not -- they are religiously motivated and consider themselves heroic."

My use of the term "desperation" was a poor choice and obviously misleading. I didn't mean to imply "desperation" of the socioeconomic or typical "grievance" variety. I was thinking along the lines of something much more unconscious - the living of a lie and perhaps some unconscious awareness of that. Without a doubt these people appear on the surface to believe in this madness and the notion that their salvation lies in the murder of their fellow man. I was merely reflecting on the possibility that on some level they might recognize that this is false and inhuman and such an idea isn't so far-fetched if the notion of natural moral human intuition has any credence. And actually I think the notion of natural moral intuition must have some credence or why are there so many Muslims who ignore the teachings of Islam or make so many excuses for those teachings or continue to do head stands of one sort or another in order to deny that those teachings are what they are, even to themselves? Setting aside genuine cases of taqiyyah, I don't know what could account for that sort of widespread "sticking one's head in the sand" among Muslims about what Islam teaches and about who Muhammad was and the crimes he committed, if there weren't something akin to a natural moral intuition. With regard to suicide bombers and "desperation" I was thinking along those lines. And thinking about how the hyping of "martyrdom" has a kind of "protesteth too much" quality about it which speaks of well, a kind of desperation. A moral desperation perhaps, in which everything one is taught conflicts with natural human moral intuition and yet there is no escape from this perhaps largely unconscious conflict because of societal pressures. From that perspective, blowing oneself up is the means of resolving the conflict in a flamboyantly and decisive way in order to remove all doubt and the psychic conflict which stems from that.

I really shouldn't have wandered off to begin with into the realm of random psychoanalytic speculation and musing!

But remember, in Islam, "blow yourself up" means a quiet, introspective, spiritual struggle. So don't try to take this video out of context, and "cherry-pick" the violent parts of it and only focus on those.

special_guest

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Great sarcasm!

Someone should do a spoof popular science video showing how the heads of suicide bombers are often found on roofs or in the branches of trees up to a hundred yards away - usually undamaged enough to be recognisable. Apparently the mechanism involved is much the same as the way a champagne cork pops out of the bottle.

Muslim home videos are vastly different than American home videos....

Biblical prophecy has been of great interest to me in fact it is one of the reasons that I went from being totally against going to church to believing.
I have seen the film of Lord of the Rings, and I would liken Islam to the bad side of that...Terrorise, torture, and slaughter...there have been over 6867 terrorist attacks world wide by Muslims since Sep 11th, yep sure sounds like a great religion to me...
The Joint Chiefs of Staff planners have produced a 27-page briefing, they have said that even support of 1 percent of the Muslim population would equate to over 12 million 'enemies.' " thus Islamic extremists may be supported by 12 million Muslims worldwide, but because of the world wide lack of outrage from Muslims of attrocities done by Muslims, some say that it could be as high as 30%, but even a 10% is horrific and it could be far more. If terrorists represent just 1 percent, where is the outrage from the other 99 percent of Muslims against these attrocities...hmmm there arnt any.. not any...but the outrage when something goes against them is world wide and many
innocent non-Muslims die...

World wide, there have been over 6867 terrorist attacks by Muslims since sep 11th ... Unfortunately, this list of Muslim terrorist attacks barely scratches the surface of atrocities committed in the name of Islam that occur world-wide each day. For that reason, we don't tally up the dead and dismembered.

As an example, most news articles on the violence in southern Thailand note that about 900 people were killed in 2005. We estimate that 150 of these deaths are of the Islamic militants themselves, which means they killed some 750 people that year. But TROP has only recorded the deaths of 314. We underreported more than half in a country with a decent news infrastructure. Imagine what we don't catch in the Sudan where the toll runs into the tens of thousands!

The ridiculous level of violence that Islam serves up to the world makes it impossible to compile a complete list.

Interestingly, people often respond to the list by disparaging other religions, as if pulling everyone down to the same level satisfies some sort of moral preconception about religion and culture in general. Since no other religion inspires the sort of terrorism that Islam produces, the critic invariably finds it necessary to change the rules of comparison for one side of the equation in order to contrive preferred results.

Typically, this will take the form of reaching far back into a religion's history to find the worst that can be found, even if it is in a time of war or is in utter contradiction to the teachings of the faith.

Thanks, Caroline, for clarifying. I'm 100% in agreement with what you say. I too have wondered at what level the desperation is there; I also believe in the innate sense of morality, and people do not commit these acts, even after indoctrination, without something knocking their moral compass off kilter.

I think it might be the sense of shame at the obvious success of the non-muslim world at improving life while the Islamic world wallows on the edge of medievalism, and what I mentioned about charity -- that, while they give generously to their "causes" and should by all rights be able to take care of their own out of such massive charitable donations, absolute humanitarian disaster would overtake Dar al-Islam today if not for the generous assistance of benevolent organizations sponsored by their "enemies" in Israel, Christendom, Hindus, Buddhists and even the filthy (:-) ) unbelieving athiests of the west.

They cannot even feed their own people, while Islamic countries, filthy rich with oil wealth, sit on the most fertile growing regions of the world, in countries with 12 month growing seasons. They depend on massive food shipments from countries that sit under a foot of snow half the year and only produce an abundance of food because of ingenuity, hard work, well-developed technology and infrastructure, peaceful cooperation and a commitment to free enterprise.

My thesis could be supported by a simple graph: on one axis give some numeric measure of financial, infrastructural, humanitarian and military assistance being given to islamic countries by various western nations. On the other axis, give a numeric indicator of hatred against these nations by muslims. However you define these variables, I think you'd see a direct correlation.

I suspect that they hate us because we help them, and the shame is unbearable in light of the Qur'an's assertions that they are the leaders and rulers of the world.

I don't know what they write about in your area, but the Islamic apologists around here are continually writing articles in the paper talking about how christians, jews and the west use charity in muslim countries to corrupt and subvert innocent muslims. In desperation, they rationalize away every good and charitable act towards them as horrific crimes:

We only give them food to bribe them to convert to another religion. We only build schools and hospitals to rip their loyalty away from the Ummah and to brainwash their children. We don't send our sons and daughters to die freeing their countries from mad despotic regimes, we are only trying to conquer the world and steal their resources. It's all a big war against Islam.

It's hard to accept that they believe their own words, but I think they do -- it's part of that desperation, borne of a need to be on the right side and a deep-seated fear that you aren't; sort of like the die-hard football fans at a highschool whose team has always placed dead last. That is the nature of the desperation.

So, yes, there is desperation there, but not of the sort we hear talked about in the liberal media these days.

Is there a link to the actual video, or is it too disgusting for us to view?
Has it been shown or discussed in/on any mainstrean media?

Take one fresh and tender lie
Multiply it twice times pi
Then you will see
What Islam intends for me
A bomb, a blast and then I die.

Sick, sick, the memories you gave me
Sick, sick, the memories you gave me