Muslims get angry at films depicting them as terrorists

These films fuel “Islamophobia,” you see. Some even dare to link Islamic ritual to terrorist attacks. No one seems to have considered the possibility that actual terrorist attacks perpetrated by Islamic terrorists who perform Islamic rituals and ascribe their terrorist acts to Islamic teachings fuel “Islamophobia” far more than any film ever could. “From Aladdin to Lost Ark, Muslims get angry at ‘bad guy’ film images: Crude and exaggerated stereotypes are fuelling Islamophobia, says study,” by Lucy Ward in The Guardian, with thanks to D. C. Watson:

Popular films ranging from Hollywood blockbusters to children’s cartoons are depicting “crude and exaggerated” stereotypes of Muslims and perpetuating Islamophobia, according to a study published today.

A report by the Islamic Human Rights Commission argues that films as diverse as The Siege, a portrayal of a terrorist attack on New York starring Denzel Washington and Bruce Willis, the Disney film Aladdin and the British comedy East is East have helped demonise Muslims as violent, dangerous and threatening, and reinforce prejudices.

While The Siege is attacked for inter-cutting Islamic ritual and terrorist violence, potentially linking the two in the minds of audiences, Aladdin faces criticism for depicting Arabs as “ruthless caricatures” with “exaggerated and ridiculous accents”.

The study, titled The British media and Muslim representation: the ideology of demonisation, argues that Hollywood has a crucial role in influencing how the public views Muslims.

A survey conducted as part of the research revealed that Muslims in Britain felt negative images of their faith on the big and small screen had consequences in their daily lives. Those interviewed “found a direct correlation between media portrayal and their social experiences of exclusion, hatred, discrimination and violence”.

Do Muslims in Britain really want to lessen experiences of exclusion, hatred, discrimination and violence? Easy. Just follow these four simple steps:

1. Stop blaming violent acts committed by Muslims in the name of Islam on the various sins of unbelievers.

2. Establish nationwide, compulsory programs in mosques to teach against the jihad ideology and Islamic supremacism, by means including an explicit and definitive rejection of the literal meaning of many passages of Qur’an and Hadith.

3. Stop saying violent or hateful things in private when you think no non-Muslims are around. The most notorious recent example is the Dispatches documentary. There was also the imam Umar Abdul-Jalil, executive director of ministerial services for the New York City Department of Correction, was secretly recorded last year while speaking at an Islamic conference in Arizona. Muslims, he said, invoking Qur’an 48:29, must be “compassionate with each other” and “hard against the kufr [unbeliever].” In Britain, Hamid Ali, imam of the mosque frequented by the July 7 bombers, praised the bombers and called their terror attack “good” in a conversation secretly recorded by an undercover journalist. Publicly, he had condemned the attacks. In a mosque in the Czech Republic, a Muslim secretly filmed by a documentary filmmaker says Islamic Shari”a law, including the stoning of adulterers, should be adopted by the Czech Republic. Cleveland imam Fawaz Damra, who has since been deported for failing to disclose his ties to terror groups, signed the Fiqh Council of North America’s condemnation of terrorism, despite having declared at an Islamic conference that “terrorism, and terrorism alone, is the path to liberation.”

Do such incidents mean that every Muslim who professes to have adopted Western notions of pluralism and the equality of dignity and rights of non-Muslims and Muslims is dissembling? Of course not. But they do mean that non-Muslims are perfectly justified in being suspicious even when Muslim profess moderation and opposition to terror. Consequently deeds, not just words, are needed. To conclude my four recommendations, genuinely anti-terror Muslims should:

4. Actively work with Western law enforcement officials to identify and apprehend jihadists within Western Muslim communities.

But it is unlikely that any of that will be done. Instead, these poor mistrusted, misunderstood folks will keep crying “Islamophobia” and trying to manipulate the American legal and political systems.

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  1. says

    See i thought it was ” Terrorism ” and “Islamania” that fuels Islamiphobia.

    You know 911, Ahmadinejad announcing our imminent destruction, beheadings of Christian Schoolgirls, Riots in the streets of Paris , you know that kind of Non Fiction stuff.

    Art is a Reflection of reality , not the creator of reality. more deflection from the true issues.

    Don’t blame ” 24 “, blame your Religions intolerant doctrine of hate.

  2. says

    I’m beginning to see all this through a new angle. Most Muslims probably have no inkling to be active in jihad and are misinformed about the aims of their co-religionists. However, since multiculturalism and leftism ensures that their own consciences are shielded from exposure, they feel no need to make a re-evaluation…after all, if half the white men say its their fault, it must be, why should I denigrate myself!

  3. says

    “Hollywood has a crucial role in influencing how the public views Muslims.”

    Welcome to the real world Muslims.

    Hollywood has been demonising Christian’s for decades and Muslims have been killing Christian’s for centuries.

    The next time you open your loud mouths stand in front of a mirror and replace the word Muslim with Christian. Its time to grow up and stop blaming your shortcomings on the rest of the world.

    And face it, its not Hollywood that influences how the public views Muslims its Muslims that are shaping world opinion on their views of Muslims.

    And while your at it you can stop killing in the name of Islam and THEN the world might listen.

  4. says

    Actually DC,

    Establish nationwide [in Britain], compulsory programs in mosques to teach against the jihad ideology and Islamic supremacism, by means including an explicit and definitive rejection of the literal meaning of many passages of Qur’an and Hadith.

    How will they be able to convince their ‘flocks’ to ignore what Muslims in other nations still do in God’s name?

    I think their heads will explode trying to explain that much of God’s literal word violates man-made laws in western democracies; but can never suffer such restrictions in ‘real’ Muslim nations.

    So, let me add another item:

    Conduct a national dialogue to address precisely which of God’s words don’t cut it in western democracies, and that should simply not be allowed anywhere in the 21st century.

  5. says

    Speaking of fueling, if we stopped fueling our cars with Islamic oil and found a viable alternative to it, no one would be fueling jihad, the financial windfall that Muslims now enjoy would dry up and disappear and Islam would go nighty-night like it did when the west surpassed it’s power during the industrial revolution.

    Fuel peace, not jihad.

  6. says

    “Best cure for islamophobia: Deportation.”

    …Add…Muslim Immigration Ban…..

    ….The more the truth about Islam gets out the louder they squeal….Call it Islamophoebia if you want…I call it survival…..This weapon called truth should be used every day and spread to every person you can reach….

    …And just what do Muslims do that causes Hollywood to depict them as terrorists….hmmmmm….The Muslims just hate it when the truth gets out….

  7. says

    Hollywood, please make Mohammed, the Movie! Why have little Dakota Fanning raped in a movie when you can have lots of little girls and big girls raped and enslaved in a movie. All these elements naturally occur in a great story, Mohammed the Movie. You get rapes, wars, murders, betrayals, lootings, plunder, gore, extreme gore, beheadings all those favorable elements that appear to sell theater tickets. And the bad man wins!

    Hollywood, you also can plausibly deny culpability for pandering to the vile and corrupt lusts of your audience by attributing the movie to fact. Hollywood, you will insulate yourself from criticism for pandering because your movie will be fiction.

  8. says

    In a pre-dawn raid, undisclosed numbers of Israeli warplanes, taking off from military airbases in the Negev, destroy Iran’s main nuclear facility at Bushehr. Israel’s armed forces have released no details, but it is believed the planes flew over parts of Jordan, northern Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, refueling in mid-air before reaching their target. Military analysts speculate that the planes must have refueled somewhere over Iraq.

    During the one-hour raid, Iran claims to have shot down “several” Israeli fighters. Television images show pilots being lynched by furious mobs before Iranian authorities could reach them. The after-effects of the raid shake the Arab and Islamic world. Millions take to the streets demanding immediate action against Israel.

  9. says

    That was day one !

    DAY 2

    Believing that Israel would never undertake such actions without U.S. approval, or at least a tacit nod from the American administration, Iran retaliates. Thousands of Revolutionary Guards are dispatched across the border into Iraq with orders to inflict as many casualties on American troops as possible. Fierce clashes erupt between coalition forces and Iranians. Within hours, more than 400 U.S. troops are killed, and many more wounded in heavy fighting. Iranian sleeper agents, who have infiltrated Iraq since the downfall of Saddam, urge Iraqi Shi’ites into action. They cut major highways and harass coalition troops, preventing reinforcements from reaching units under attack. Several helicopters are shot down.

    Tehran orders the Lebanese Shi’ite movement, Hezbollah, into action against northern Israel. Hezbollah launches scores of rockets and mortars against kibbutzim, towns, and settlements. Israel retaliates. Casualties are high on both sides of the frontier. Tension in the Middle East reaches a boiling point. In Washington, the Cabinet convenes in an emergency session.

    Massive demonstrations erupt all over the Arab and Islamic world. Crowds of gigantic proportions take to the streets, ransacking Israeli embassies in Cairo, Amman, and Ankara. American embassies in a number of other cities are burned. With police overwhelmed, the military is called in. Armies open fire, killing hundreds, adding to the outrage.

  10. says

    Day Three: Friday

    Following Friday prayers across the Islamic world, crowds incited by fiery sermons in mosques from Casablanca to Karachi take to the streets in the worst protests yet. Government buildings are ransacked, and clashes with security forces result in greater casualties. Martial law is declared, and curfew imposed, but this fails to prevent further mayhem and rioting. Islamist groups call for the overthrow of governments and for immediate military action against Israel.

    In Saudi Arabia, Islamist militants engage in open gun battles with security forces in several cities. The whereabouts of the Saudi royal family are unknown. In Indonesia, Malaysia, Egypt, and a dozen other countries, crowds continue to run amok, demanding war on Israel.

    Day Four: Saturday

    A longstanding plan to overthrow Musharraf is carried out by senior Pakistani army officers loyal to the Islamic fundamentalists and with close ties to bin Laden. The coup is carried out in utmost secrecy.

    Pakistan’s intelligence service, the ISI”a long-time supporter of the fundamentalists”in agreement with the plotters, takes control of the country’s nuclear arsenal and its codes. Within hours, and before news of the coup leaks out, Pakistan, now run by pro-bin Laden fundamentalists, loads two nuclear weapons aboard executive Lear jets that take off from a remote military airfield, headed for Tel Aviv and Ashdod. Detouring and refueling in east Africa, they approach Israel from the south. The crafts identify themselves as South African. Their tail markings match the given identification.

    The two planes with their deadly cargo are flown by suicide pilots who, armed with false flight plans and posing as business executives, follow the flight path given to them by Israeli air traffic control. At the last moment, however, the planes veer away from the airfield, soar into the sky and dive into the outskirts of the two cities, detonating their nuclear devices in the process.

  11. says

    That is one of many scenarios the military must prepare for – 2007 is the start of 3 years of the Great Middle East war.

    There will be fuel shortages and as a knock on effect food and other prices will shoot through the roof.

    Prepare yourselves and your families.
    Stock up on long life food such as tinned and dried foods. Have plans for Fuel and Water shortages.

    This will hit all of us in some way or another – PLEASE PREPARE !

  12. says

    How strange!

    East Is East (1999)

    A mixed-race Anglo-Pakistani family in 1970s Salford struggle against the traditional background enforced upon them by their father. The report says the representation of the Muslim husband as a polygamous wife-beating tyrant “fits into many of the negative perceptions people have of Muslims”

    If I remember this film was based on an actual family and made, or at least part written by one of the sons who thought his father was a polygamous wife-beating tyrant.

  13. says

    A blast from the past:

    “I regret to inform you that this weblog and some of its comments have been identified as potentially Islamophobic. Under European Union Directive DCLXVI it is compulsory for all contributors to take the following Islamophia test immediately:

    YOU MAY BE AN ISLAMOPHOBE IF…

    (1) You refer to the midwinter holiday as ‘Christmas’.

    (2) You save loose change in a p***y-bank.

    (3) You allow your children to read unexpurgated versions of Winnie the Pooh.

    (4) You doubt whether it’s politically correct to stone rape victims.

    (5) You believe that the earth is round.

    (6) You think there’s something weird about a 50 year old man marrying a six year old girl.

    (7) Your children have Barbie dolls or Teddy Bears

    (8) You object to being a second class citizen in your own country.

    (9) You fail to celebrate cultural diversity when your daughter is gang-raped for not wearing a headscarf.

    (10) You think government policy should be determined by your elected representatives rather than a howling mob.

    (11) You object to your taxes being used to support people who are plotting to kill you.

    (12) You aren’t convinced that ‘Jihad’ means ‘Inner Spiritual Struggle’.

    (13) You don’t understand why the Jews must be exterminated.

    (14) You allow your children to play with LEGO.

    (15) You aren’t married to at least one of your cousins.

    (16) You sometimes have doubts about BBC reporting.

    (17) You occasionally wonder what’s inside those walking tents.

    (18) You realise that taqiyya is not a Mexican beverage.

    (19) You believe moderate Muslims ride unicorns.

    (20) You don’t appreciate the multicultural need for Methodist grandmothers to be body-cavity searched before boarding aircraft.

    (21) You claim to understand the words “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them”, even though you don’t speak Arabic.

    (22) You object to taxpayers’ money being spent for terrorists to hold a festival to commemorate the anniversary of their massacres.

    (23) You have reservations about ‘faith schools’ where the kids will be taught that you and your family are najis (excrement), at public expense.

    (24) You don’t understand why flying your country’s flag has become a hate-crime.

    (25) You don’t appreciate why it is so insensitive and offensive for the police to prevent oppressed minorities venting their frustration by mass murder.

    EVALUATING YOUR SCORE
    How many of the questions did you answer ‘YES’ ?

    On a scale of 0 to 25

    0 you are a Dhimmi
    1 to 5 you are a Najis Kaffir
    6 to 10 you are an Islamophobe
    11 to 15 you are a Thought Criminal
    16 to 20 you are an Enemy of Allah
    21 to 25 you are a Zionist Crusader offspring of pigs and monkeys.

    Fatwas are automatically awarded for all scores above 5

    Fatwas will be posted in plain brown paper envelopes in laminated or embossed styles, generously sprinkled with ricin, anthrax, sarin or cobalt-60

    Posted by: savitch at August 15, 2006 07:41 PM ”

    How did you do??/

  14. says

    Assalamau Laikum,

    All has to be taken in context. With simply a handful of peoples doing these evil things a film does demoise hundreds of millions and that is not fair.

    Quite simply most muslims are praying 5 times a day and working to have a libing for themselves and providing for their family.

    This is life, ….it’s not entairnment…let’s keep it in context.

    Consider Mudh the movie as someone said. Were a muslim to make it would show a hero batting against the evil jews …however a loving and pious man.

    The West would simply show a porn movie…and that’s not right.

  15. says

    From the Guardian.

    East Is East (1999)

    A mixed-race Anglo-Pakistani family in 1970s Salford struggle against the traditional background enforced upon them by their father. The report says the representation of the Muslim husband as a polygamous wife-beating tyrant “fits into many of the negative perceptions people have of Muslims”

    How strange!

    If I remember this film was based on an actual family and made, or at least part written by one of the sons who thought his father was a polygamous wife-beating tyrant. BTW no one else in Britain would have dared to do this – or got away with it if thay had.

  16. says

    “Quite simply most muslims are praying 5 times a day”

    True… So true, in fact, in some Muslim countries the Muslims will kill you if you do not pray 5 times a day….

    …I am not so sure as to what Muslims pray for…I do know that Major Islamic clerics (not just a desultory one).openly preach Death to non Muslims and Islamic domination is mandatory…It has been proven many times in many places (through undercover tapes and videos)that the Islamic clerics are preaching Death to not Muslims and Islamic domination is mandatory.

    The very idea that only a few Muslims are creating probems is laughable…

  17. says

    I would add these steps

    5. assimilate into the country to which you have immigrated. abandon the ways of the old country, learn and adopt the ways of your new adopted country don’t try to turn it into an extension of your homeland

    6. don’t wear a dish-dash, thobe or whatever in your adopted country

    7. don’t force your women to wear the niqab, hijab, burka, jiljab or other pieces of clothing

    8. don’t post messages in Arabic. use the language of your adopted country

    9. stop whining, if you don’t like it where you’ve immigrated to, then you are free to go back to where you came from

  18. says

    They just don’t get it. Movies and TV don’t give Muslims a bad name-the words and deeds of the Muslims themselves are what give Muslims a bad name. There are plenty of people who don’t watch TV or go to movies and yet they know all too well what Islam is all about. And let’s not forget the infidels who have to live in the ummah-they too know the score from experience, not from watching movies and TV with their pro-Islam, anti-infidel viewpoints.

  19. says

    Naseem wrote: “With simply a handful of peoples doing these evil things … ”

    Our problem is that we cannot separate “the handful” from “the rest”, and “the rest” are not helping us. “The handful” cannot exist without support from “the rest”.

    And: “The West would simply show a porn movie…and that’s not right.” Well, considering how Mohammed and his Merry Band treated female captives, it might not be right, but it would certainly be historically accurate.

  20. says

    Hey Muslims—Quit doing all those things that you seem unable to quit doing and THEN Hollywood might stop making movies that CORRECTLY portray those despicable things you do!!

  21. says

    “Muslims get angry?”

    So what? when aren’t they angry?

    Ignore them, and keep on doing what we have been doing. When enough on our side realize what they have allowed to happen, then THEY will get angry–at the Moslems that are in a perpetual state of anger.

    What do two angers make? Is it like two negative numbers–do they cancel each other out? I don’t think so.

    When our side, as long as there is such a thing, says, “Enough!” then the Moslem anger will no longer have an effect on us.

    As for what it does to them?

    Who cares?

  22. says

    I suppose Muslims would love to see a movie where Muslims save infidels from some sort of disaster (that isn’t caused by that “tiny minority” of Muslims of course), portraying them as heroic people. I’d like to see such a movie myself, because then I can at least see on film what I will probably never see in reality. The problem is that such a premise is so far fetched that it would be a box office bomb (no pun intended).

  23. says

    Hey, wait a minute!

    What are Muslims doing watching TV and going to the movies? That’s forbidden isn’t it? Didn’t Naseem’s buddies the Taliban close the theaters and beat people for watching TV?

  24. says

    As you see, you’ve depicted the truth that Islam is a snake, in every sense of the word. They’re masters of deception and lies, I know, I’ve known them for a long time. Oh, but if you print, paint, stamp or stain this on anything movable or immovable, they’ll claim your being racist.

    Keep up the good work !

  25. says

    A report on Muslims expectations of the media, including analyses of film, TV news, and literature will be launched on Friday by the Islamic Human Rights Commission.

    I haven’t seen the report – ‘The British Media and Muslim Representation: The Ideology of Demonisation’ – but I’ve been assured that it will be a fair and balanced appraisal!

    http://www.ihrc.org.uk/show.php?id=2411

  26. says

    I don’t know how many times Robert has to repeat himself before the “moderate” muslims figure out that if they want the public’s perception to be changed about the members of their religion, then THEY have to start doing the work.

  27. says

    Such an easy argument to reverse.

    “Mars Attacks”- a boxer who says early in the movie that he has “found Allah” is one of the heroes of the film.

    “True Lies”- Yes, the terrorists in this film are Islamic (I think, it’s been years since I saw it). There’s also an arab (or asian) agent on the side of the good guys.

    “Munich”- Box office smash directed by a Jew which tries to show terrorism as a “shades of grey” issue.

    “Three Kings”- Features a white American character who asks to be given a Muslim funeral. Incidentally, made three years after that naughty Islamophobic movie “The Siege”.

    Let’s factor in a few other films now:

    “Under Siege”- terrorists take over a US Navy warship- and they’re NOT MUSLIM!

    “Air Force One”- terrorists take over Air Force One- and they’re NOT MUSLIM!

    The “Die Hard” trilogy- three movies about terrorism and not a headscarf in sight.

    I could go on but it’ll bore people.

    Nice of the Guardian to give an unbiased report of this crap.

    Go back to bed leftards- people make films concerning Islamic terrorists because it’s believable. That’s why you don’t see many films about Buddhist, Sikh, or Hindu terrorists.

  28. says

    Mohammed, the Movie!, Executive Producer David England.

    The theme tune by Ronnie Hazelhurst features a piccolo spelling out the sub-text in Morse code, excluding the apostrophes but including the final full stop.

    … — — . — — – …. . .-. … -.. — .- …- . . — .-.-.-

    S o m e/m o t h e r s /d o /a v e/e m /.

  29. says

    I think a movie based upon muhammad will be too gory to watch. But it might wake up a lot of infidels. Anyone wants a good idea for a movie extraordinaire ? Ron Howard ? Anyone ?

  30. says

    Shame on Spielberg for not making a blockbuster about the dangers of Islamofascism.

    Forget WW2 sentimental crap (schindler’s list), the masses need to be made aware of the possibility of a new holocaust and the mortal dangers of Islamofascism.

  31. says

    Yo Naseem! Found work yet. Still have the slaves cutting off the hands of people you don’t like?

    You said that there are just a hand full of Muslims causing the problem. Who are they? Please tell us who they are!

    When we know who the people are we will probably stop producing films about Muslims that set off Neuclear Bombs.

    Thank you.

  32. says

    “Forget WW2 sentimental crap (schindler’s list), the masses need to be made aware of the possibility of a new holocaust and the mortal dangers of Islamofascism.

    Posted by: george_rem ”

    George, please may I modify your statement above to :

    Forget WW2 sentimental crap (schindler’s list), the masses need to be made aware of the number of genocides perpetrated in the name if islam, jihad and the prophet in the past 14 centuries. In the 20th century itself, there was the slaughter in Africa, the ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus (1989 – Present day), the genocide of Hindus in West Punjab and East Bengal in the year 1947 during the birth of pakistan, and the Armenian genocide in which 1.5 million Armenians were killed in the name of islam, jehad, and the prophet.

  33. says

    Just follow these four simple steps:

    I’m disappointed you didn’t mention the final step.

    5. Review the Koran and the various Sunnah texts for explicit calls for Jihad terrorism made by Allah, Mohammed, and other Islam authority figures. Then read Dr. Andrew Bostom’s book.

  34. says

    Phobia – unreasonable fear.

    I have lots of reasons to fear Islam.

    Beruit burning yesterday on the news

    Beheadings

    Ahmadinnerjackets threats of 10 slaps (I’m trying fiure out whick ten cities)

    The Karbala Ambush.

    The flying immams and the guy who diised our soldier over the mat and was defended on Fox by of all things the ISLAMIC society of MIlwaukee!

    And thats only this week.

    I don’t need Bruce Willis to teach me anything. If the producer of Cheers and Frazier wasn’t on that plane that was flown into the Pentagon. I could happily be watching funny sitcoms that make fun of us.
    Thanks, ‘the tiny extreme minority’.

    Also, one more thing to stop.
    Stop blaming your fellow Muslim’s behavior on something I had absolutley nothing to do with. Like the Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition. I was born in the 20th century snd had no part in any of that.

  35. says

    Do such incidents mean that every Muslim who professes to have adopted Western notions of pluralism and the equality of dignity and rights of non-Muslims and Muslims is dissembling?

    Every good, observant Moslem is. Only the MINOs would be released from that hook.

    Think of this as the new, enlightened Catch & Release policy from the Infidel governments.

  36. says

    “As you see, you’ve depicted the truth that Islam is a snake, in every sense of the word. They’re masters of deception and lies, I know, I’ve known them for a long time. Oh, but if you print, paint, stamp or stain this on anything movable or immovable, they’ll claim your being racist.”

    Jeff,

    Ol’ Mo’ also forgot to teach his followers to respect the chastity of his “brother’s” wife, mother, sister or daughter, or does adopted daughter-in-law not count?

  37. says

    “But it is unlikely that any of that will be done. Instead, these poor mistrusted, misunderstood folks will keep crying “Islamophobia” and trying to manipulate the American legal and political systems”.

    Robert-

    Their deception has destroyed their credibility with unbelievers. I think even Muslims know that’s reality. “Islamophobia” charges are leaving folks with a feeling of cold bagels. Too many people know too much about this belief system to ever go back to the days of ignorance, to the days nonbelievers thought Muslims also practiced the Universal Golden Rule. They don’t. They dehumanize unbelievers. In Saudi Arabia, a person can be executed for non-belief or believing in another religion. That’s their most sacred place.

    Too many people now know the truth. Times have changed and 911 was the turning point.

  38. says

    Marisol —

    Why have all of my posts been removed? I can’t find a single one. Is there a problem with me or my server?

    Please explain. Thanks.

  39. says

    Re: “Islamaphobia”

    “We are engaged in a war against an axis of Islamists, extremists, and terrorists. It is an axis of evil. It has headquarters in Tehran and Waziristan. But because of the unconventional nature of this war, it also has headquarters in cities throughout Europe and Asia and Africa and the United States of America, in cells that operate in the shadows but are prepared to strike us again as they did on September 11th, 2001.

    “The enemy we are fighting is . . . totalitarian. It is inhumane. It has a violent ideology and a goal of expansionism and totalitarianism. It threatens our security, our values, our way of life as seriously, in my opinion, as fascism and communism did in the last century.” –
    Senator Joe Lieberman, American Enterprise Institute forum on Iraq, 1/2007.

  40. says

    Frank,

    “Their deception has destroyed their credibility with unbelievers. I think even Muslims know that’s reality. “Islamophobia” charges are leaving folks with a feeling of cold bagels. Too many people know too much about this belief system to ever go back to the days of ignorance, to the days nonbelievers thought Muslims also practiced the Universal Golden Rule. They don’t. They dehumanize unbelievers. In Saudi Arabia, a person can be executed for non-belief or believing in another religion. That’s their most sacred place.

    Too many people now know the truth. Times have changed and 911 was the turning point.”

    Frank what you have posted reminded me of the legendary “Borg” of “StarTrack” fame who would expand their empire by force of absorbing other civilizations. Even their spaceships looked like a certain famous “square cube” in a certain city in Saudi Arabia.

  41. says

    Hi Robert — Hugh?

    Do either of you know why all of my posts on every single thread have been removed? I can see why you would remove one or two of them, as you have the right to do so, but why ALL of them?

    Perhaps there’s a problem with my computer on this end. Could you please look into this?

    Cordially,
    Champ

  42. says

    “…Crude and exaggerated stereotypes are fuelling Islamophobia, says study,”

    Crude and exaggerated Islamic practices are fueling Islamodisgust worldwide.

  43. says

    s_sgt7,

    It is refreshing to see that there are posters here who have past experiences posting elsewhere and taking on the radical lefties. Over at another posting forum community or a league of posting communities called Delphiforums.com, I have seen my share of radical lefties in a number of current events forums. Taking them on helped me prepare for websites such as JW/DW.

  44. says

    Hollywood, you also can plausibly deny culpability for pandering to the vile and corrupt lusts of your audience by attributing the movie to fact. Hollywood, you will insulate yourself from criticism for pandering because your movie will be fiction.

    Posted by: David England

    I think we should get Mel Gibson to produce the movie. He seems so interested in religion. Maybe he would learn a thing or two.

  45. says

    Generally speaking, Hollywood produces movies that ‘reflect’ certain known TRUTHS about the world and the cultures we live in.

    Blaming the film makers for showing Muslims as terrorists is SO backwards. Try blaming the terrorists instead.

  46. says

    Mohammed, the Movie!

    […]

    When all is said and done, though, the minutiae of technique and details of achieving technical effects are not what will likely linger with those who see and hear Mohammed, the Movie! . The story and its characters compel. It is one of those gripping portrayals of power wielded brutally and without conscience.

    “This is not anybody’s statement of anti-Islam,” asserts director, Peter Jackson. “Nor was there any specific artistic vision to create that impression. Some of the issues and visuals, if you want to come at it with an interpretation, you can project anything on it. I feel though, personally, that the issues that are brought to the fore by the story are things that we as Infidels constantly need to revisit. For over thousands of years now, we still haven’t gotten it, have we?”

  47. says

    A report by the Islamic Human Rights Commission argues that films as diverse as The Siege, a portrayal of a terrorist attack on New York

    Uh.. has anyone noticed the NAME of this organization??!! Now there’s an oxymoron of gargantuan proportions!

    Are we allowed to make comedies that features moslems?

    I have an idea for a comedy about an Islamic human rights commission.. LOL LOL LOL

    You have GOT to be kidding – putting on a name that includes Human Rights in the same line as “islamic”??!!!

    When they don’t make me retch in disgust they sure make me laugh!

  48. says

    I would scrap Robert’s list entirely, and substitute simply one requirement for Muslims:

    1. Officially abandon, and criminalize, all notions of Islamic “self-defense”.

    Of course, my list of one is just as unrealistic as Robert’s list, and, unfortunately, we will end up having to pursue more aggressive and entirely unilateral measures to deal with the Problem of Islam.

  49. says

    We get angry when MUSLIMS COMMIT murder (which they do copiously across the globe on a daily basis). Does our abhorrence of their acts of murder and mayhem in any way influence them to stop murdering?? (No). Do they care that we find their deeds reprehensible??? (No).

    So WE will continue filming them doing what they do best–committing murders!

    Do we care if this bothers them?? Why the hell should we????? (I sure as hell don’t care if this offends them).

    In the words of hinduunity.org: “Islam=Terrorism.” Ain’t that the truth!

  50. says

    Also a lot of passages are never told to the Moderates about how Mohammad behaved in his diary book called the Koran. See if one cannot express truth how can people express creativity then? Are you today in the West allowed to write a fictional book based on Islamic terrorist blowing up America? Or will that course riots? What if you made it about Christian’s terrorists what people riot? But never mind free people.

  51. says

    “The West would simply show a porn movie…and that’s not right.” Well, considering how Mohammed and his Merry Band treated female captives, it might not be right, but it would certainly be historically accurate.”

    Right! They were LIVING it!

    The were actually living EXACTLY what is portrayed in Porno!

  52. says

    Hey Muslims—Quit doing all those things that you seem unable to quit doing and THEN Hollywood might stop making movies that CORRECTLY portray those despicable things you do!!

    Posted by: guide inside

    Or have a bunch of muslim vigilantes go after the ones causing the trouble and Hollywood might make a film about that. LOL

  53. says

    If you get a chance just go to the CAIR website and listen to the tripe from Ms.Ahmed while she used her own bigotry to denounce bigotry being used on the Fox “24” .

    The video interview from the Paula Zahn Show has a CAIR rep asserting that she was afraid to go out of her home the next day after the 24 episode , her argument was based on presupposing
    that all non-Muslims are idiots they can’t separate fiction from reality and would act-out
    with violence towards her just for wearing a Hijab.

    But riddle me this CAIR…..why is it that when USA Mosques are caught promoting JIHAD or handing out DVD’s and booklets that assert Mohammed’s violence IS Allah’s will , it is your Org. that denies some of this stuff from existing and tries to mitigate the PROVEN material as not being Islamic and won’t influence Muslims or incite
    more Jihad.

    So which one is it CAIR , does advertising have an affect on people or is it a huge scam
    and all those Moderate Imams are wasting their time preaching Peace while the actual Quran has verses that prove them wrong.
    Funny isn’t it , CAIR wasn’t the least bit worried that the 24 episode would provoke Muslims to get angry and become Jihadists , no sir….CAIR used their bigotry to assume everyone else had the problem and 24 created more “Islamophobes” .

  54. says

    These people really need to ask themselves, what came first: the chicken or the egg?

    Or as an old Yiddish proverb goes: “When a man calls you a donkey once, you ignore it. When it happens a second time, you should start looking for a saddle.”

  55. says

    “5. assimilate into the country to which you have immigrated. abandon the ways of the old country, learn and adopt the ways of your new adopted country don’t try to turn it into an extension of your homeland

    6. don’t wear a dish-dash, thobe or whatever in your adopted country

    7. don’t force your women to wear the niqab, hijab, burka, jiljab or other pieces of clothing

    8. don’t post messages in Arabic. use the language of your adopted country

    9. stop whining, if you don’t like it where you’ve immigrated to, then you are free to go back to where you came from”

    yah, i’m with Pak125. Go Pakis!!!!

    peace out,
    jehana

  56. says

    I recently read somwhere that Saudi Arabia is sponsoring 10 ,000 students to Canadian Universities and the Canadian Govt seems to be welcoming them.
    Wow,Ismalification of Canada made easy.
    Wonder how many of them are trained in bomb making technology before they land in canada????

    I remember reading in some Toronto newspaper that the City hall was asked to remove the Christmas tree during christmas time because it was found offensive by some others. I will bet a 1000$ these some others where Islamic people because i have never seen a Jew,a hindu or budhhist complain over a tree.

    My surprise at this turned to a sense of alarm when I cam to know that in Canada schhols you are not allowed to say Merry Christmas in schools becasue of multicultural surroundingg. You are suppposed to say Happy holidays instead.

    Has the Canadian govt ever wondered that the ther people i.e who are non muslims found the large number of mosques growing at an alarming rate in Canada are found offensive.
    Hey but who cares if Mosques are offensive and preach hatred.
    The Christmas tree is far more dangerous. Isnt it???
    Wake up Canada before its too late.
    Allow immigration only from non muslim countries to people who come to your country and assimilate in your culture rather then muslims who want you to bend to their culture.

  57. says

    “I will bet a 1000$ these some others where Islamic people because i have never seen a Jew,a hindu or budhhist complain over a tree.”

    ……In 1976 the North Koreans entered the demilitarized zone and killed two American Army officers supervising a detail of men to cut down a tree that was obstructing the Americans view of the sensitive area….