Another report on jihadist preaching in Britain. "Britain's New Preachers of Hate," by Bobby Pathak in the Mirror, with thanks to Montague:
IN a dilapidated mosque, half a dozen awestruck young men listen to a preacher spell out his vision for Britain."King, Queen, House of Commons... if you accept it, you are a part of it," says Dr Ijaz Mian. "If you don't accept it, you have to dismantle it.
"So you being a Muslim, you have to fix a target. There will be no House of Commons. From that White House to this Black House, we know we have to dismantle it.
"Muslims must grow in strength... then take over."
A 10-month undercover investigation into home-grown extremism has revealed hard-line Islamic fundamentalism being preached in British mosques.
Some speakers call for girls to be hit if they don't wear Islamic dress and say that they can marry before puberty, others praise the Taliban.
Speaking at the Ahl-e-Hadith mosque, in Derby, Dr Mian tells his listeners: "You are in a situation in which you have to live like a state-within-a-state - until you take over.
"But until this happens, you have to preach, until you become such a force that the people just submit to you."
Dr Mian wants to see religious policemen roaming our streets, modelled on the feared Saudi Arabian force.
He says of their strict implementation of Sharia - or Islamic - law: "They send the police and they say: 'Well, if you don't come for prayer, we will arrest you. But if you still don't, then we have to bring the punishment on you - you will be killed and nobody will pray for you.'"
Read it all.
I'm sure that,even in this no holds barred warning from the mouth of someone who preaches islam (read hatred)day in day out, will not make this dumbass British government to realise one simple truth:
"its the religion, stupid"
i dont care much for the Mirror, but it is MSM, and Channel 4 is meant to give special attention to minorities issues, so that means this story is getting out to a lot of people.
The biggest surprise about this is that the Daily Mirror actually reported it. Usually, it is the typical leftie rag, which blames all our problems and Islamic terrorism on the actions of the UK, US and Israeli Governments, whilst giving terrorists a free pass.
Roll up for the Magical Mystery Tour.
Hey Sharia law men.....
Know what? Show up on MY private property. If my dogs don't tear you up, I PROMISE my buckshot WILL!
It's called AMERICAN LAW, Goobs style.
P.S. If you show up on MY property....YOU'D better pray! lol
Just make any religion illegal that threatens harm to our constitution OR American citizens.
Why are so many people cowardly and/or blind to this real threat? It really boggles my mind. These Islamic nuts state what they want to do. It's like people have no resolve anymore. We should make Islam illegal.
If those Mohammedan preachers aren't preaching sedition, there is no such thing as sedition. If I were a British citizen, I would be demanding to know why they have not been locked up pending deportation.
"Muslims must grow in strength... then take over."
Anyone in the US Congress listening?
Don't think for one minute that big pond between North America and Europe & ME will prevent the agenda.
Surely it will be a surprise when members of congress discover, in time, someone else wants their job. Sleep on America!
"King, Queen, House of Commons... if you accept it, you are a part of it," says Dr Ijaz Mian. "If you don't accept it, you have to dismantle it."
I second that. Except, I refer to Islam.
At this point in time, if you accept Islam as it is being taught, you are a part of it.
Dismantle Islam.
"If I were a British citizen, I would be demanding
to know why they have not been locked up pending deportation."
-Pelayo
Because, in the UK, such a course of action,ie. asking the government to protect the nation,
could bring unmerited criticism and perhaps even some form of prosecution from the authorities. It's as if treason is in vogue and certain beliefs and behaviors must be tolerated.
why is this muslim cleric aka monster, still allowed in Britain! you wonder why liberal defend them, muslims are stupid victims. liberals need a reason to blame , the real victim, British people are held hostage by the BBC and EU.
I see.
If non-Muslim Britons don't accept Islam, then they have to dismantle it.
Non-Muslims should demolish all mosques and madrassas, deport or kill Muslims until they take over.
I presume that is what Dr Mian means when he says, "if you accept it, you are a part of it...[and]...if you don't accept it, you have to dismantle it...until you take over."
Durrr...I read his quote 'out of context'.
Off topic, but might be relevant:
Iranian news agency reports UFO has crashed in Kerman province
Ummah News Links
The news and all the zombie watch sites have a few good things to comment on today.
Lets see lets start with iran.The hypocrites in iran have the gall to complain about the U.S. forces searching thier "iraqi embassy" and detaining thier "representatives".They have the nerve to bring up the phrase "international laws"
The iraqi gov. actually runs to thier defense after we send over 20,000 more of our soldiers to help thier lazy no good for nothing military.
the iraqi military couldn't fight thier way out of a paper bag.They were worthless when we faught them what makes anyone think they will be worth a damn now.
Lets see theres somalia.heres an ironic twist for you. The somalia leadership doesn't want any representative of the islamic court or islam in his gov. and the west wants him to accept them.
Obviously this guy is smarter than our gov. officials.Then again he's already been there he gave the zombies an inch and just won back the mile with ethiopias help.
One could only hope that this is some kind of political hooey on our part and not a sign of what our reps. intend in our near future. I pity them on so many levels if it isn't a hooey hoax plan.
I just read an article on thereligionofpeace site.The one where it's the infedels fault that the muslim women are too fat because they don't feel comfortable in the present swimming pool situation.
Firstly why don't they call up the kingdom and have a pool built for them,i shouldn't have to pay for thier personal pools ( well this article was from somewhere else)but nobody else should have to build thier private pool.Thats what fund raises are for,get to hoofing it in the muslim community i hear walking is good exercise.Although i am sure they would just complain about safety,safety from whom would be the question.Maybe fear of male muslims.Just the mere mention of a swimming pool may send them into a sexual frenzy and of course that would be thier right being muslim.
I see ellison is really a true muslim by the way he yaps and yaps and the whole time he lets the cat out of the bag.He tries to make it seem as though the koran he used was for the sole purpose of the knowledge that help build our wonderful nation.Of course he was correct just not the way ,as usual it helped build this nation.The fact that this "book" was used for research in the fight against terrorism in it's time commited by islam only proves that history repeats itself and islam has not changed one iota.
This world needs to stop the cleansing of the people able to live with islam by islam and start cleansing islam from the people who only wish to live thier God given lives,by any God other than islam.
Today as yesterday and probably tomorrow i still fail to see what islam is bringing to this world other than death,homelessness and starvation.For any man or woman in islam to satnd up and say islam is the answer,they should be shot where they stand,buried and forgotten.
For the support we give "the kingdom" and the rest of the hordes homelands i cannot express enough shame and feel partly responsible for all the christian,hindu or anyother faith under fire from the zombie masses,islam should be decimated.
I find all those who fail to find the hidiousness in the crimes being committed by islam as guilty as the dogs and cowards that acted.The media have some comeupings and they will pay.For every innocent victim of islam that was glazed over like a holiday ham by the media, they will pay by every mention that the "heroes" of islam are being tresspassed against and given power by the media ,they will pay. For every use of the word "fear" by the media portraying those in a hellish situation under the international communities microscope shaking in thier boots,they will pay.There are none braver in this world than the American soldier fighting not only for themselves but others,how many nations can say that? CAN ISLAM?
Islam is for only islam,islam is the occupier The west occupies nothing.
Islams extends it's left hand for shaking,on it is written "friend",islams right hand is gripped around a dagger,on it is written killer of friends.
There can be no peace in islam except between muslims,there can't even be peace between muslims.
What is the mystery here?The "extremists" are killing with bombs and bullets,the "moderates" are killing from within.
What have your state reps. said about the situation with islam? Mine? Says that the latest plan won't work,but iv'e heard of nothing they really have planned then again if we hang on long enough and elect thier party to the big chair then they will tell us. Thats the first sign they won't have diddley.
The only way and the right way is to allow islam fight islam and when they get out of thier boundaries drop them like a ton of bricks.
As for the muslims here in my homeland,whether you are legal citizen or not if you do not like it here then go back to your mud huts in zombie land,maybe your local leaders and thugs will even build your lard freeloading asses a freaking swimming pool.
UFO link,
“Abulghassem noted that a few days earlier, in Rafsanjan, a similar incident was reported by witnesses”.
Ok what are they up to? Look for a ciar alert; “Anti muslin bias suspected in little green men terrorizing muslims in iran”.
What actions do you suppose the men back in the beginning of our nation would take against someone that tried to subvert our freedoms!!!
RE: UFO Link...what are they upto?
Do you think it may be anything to do with this
"Iran website heralding 'Mahdi' by springtime"
"Imam Mahdi (may God hasten his reappearance) will appear all of a sudden on the world scene with a voice from the skies announcing his reappearance at the holy Ka'ba in Mecca," the message says.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53577
Back on topic...
What is there to say? We know what is going on, we are sitting waiting for someone in our Govt to do something about it...
There's more chance of a crazy prophet crash landing a UFO in the desert.
They would probably work their way through this list for starters.
Stocks: Wooden framework with foot holes in which the ankles were locked while the criminal sat down.
Pillory: Like the Stocks, the Pillory was a wooden framework. The Pillory, on the other hand, had holes for the head and hands. Also, the criminal had to stand. It was common to throw items such as rotten fruit and/or rocks at the criminal which made the already extremely uncomfortable Pillory an even worse punishment.
Whipping Post: This was simply where criminals were whipped before the entire town.
Ducking Stool: The Ducking stool was a chair to which criminals were tied and dunked into water as punishment.
The second offense resulted in the criminal being locked in the Pillory with their ears nailed to the frame.
http://www.uncp.edu/home/canada/work/allam/16071783/law.htm
That would be good for starters, i was thinking more of caneing their ass!! Seems to work a bit in Asia.
The reason why this is very hard to deal with, is obviously because it's wrapped up in religion. It was a lot easier for the legal codes of Western societies to deal with seditious statements when they were coming from Nazis or Communists.
But the Bill of Rights of the U.S. Constitution gives total freedom of religion to its citizens. Yet with Islam, we have something truly unique: a religion whose sacred text (Quran) gives its adherents a claimed divinely inspired right to commit sedition. Jihad includes sedition.
Ultimately, if Muslims in America follow through on that and claim that their religion gives them the right to agitate for sedition, it may well require a re-examination of our Bill of Rights guarantee of freedom of religion. This is ultimately going to end up in the U.S. Supreme Court, no doubt about it.
The Nazis, The liberals, Religion and the Occult. http://www.bloomington.in.us/~lgthscac/fascism.htm
I see a lot of similarities in this new enemy of ours.
I see the new enemy and the new enemy (same as the old enemy) is us, for allowing this menace within.
The vanity of a hundreds years old society being so overconfident in its moral correctness, so as to voluntarily become its own social laboratory with the real potential outcome of self-annihilation. Kind of like a bizarre game of "chicken" in road cars or Russian roulette, as though if the outcome isn't as planned (multicultural social harmony), who cares if we die?
Sounds like "My Favorite Mahdi" has finally arrived in Iran. That ought to excite the monkey man over there to (hopefully) the point of speechlessness.
As for these wonderful Muslims in England striving to take over the place I think it might be time to reactivate the Tower of London and relive some wonderful past times-these losers really need such treatment. Deporting them or jailing them simply isn't enough.
I see that a revolution is brewing in England. Look at Nigeria and the Philippines... Less than 5% Muslim can create havoc and civil unrest in any country. No country in immune...
OT..
Kabaa-MoRaidin-CutToe !
Lets see lets start with iran.The hypocrites in iran have the gall to complain about the U.S. forces searching thier "iraqi embassy" and detaining thier "representatives".They have the nerve to bring up the phrase "international laws"
Payback is a bitch. We need to detain them 444 days at least.
As for the UFO in Iran.. why do I think that has something to do with US. Either a missile attack on something or a special Ops detonation. Or - hopefully not - an aerial crash of some kind.
"Why are so many people cowardly and/or blind to this real threat? "
.........They have become accustomed to too much freedom and somewhere between 1776 and now , they have lost the insight and gumption to destroy tyranny that our forefathers had......
"IN a dilapidated mosque, half a dozen awestruck young men listen to a preacher spell out his vision for Britain"
......awestuck???,,, more like mentally deficient....
Welcome to my world guys.
I live 5 mins from these creatures in Derby.
It's in an area called Normanton which has always been ethnic for 50 ears or more.
The Sikhs have closed there shops and moved out.
The hindu temple suffers regular harssment and attempts to close it down..even though it's a tiny place the size of a brownstone house.
I have seen the creeping influence over 10 years or more.
The waves of immigration coupled with arranged marriages is a disaster.
The U.K. immigration policy has been in chaos for decades but New Labour decided that large groups of muslims would all be voters so allowed it to continue...shame on them.
How can you allow immigrants access to welfare and healthcare that they had no hand in construction or contribution.
It's not reciprocated anywhere else.
When we travel we have health insurance..if we emigrate it's usually to well paid jobs.
I gave up trying to warn people because no one wants to grasp the nettle.
The neighbours little girl that used to be a typical inquisitive,chatty kid is now an abrupt standoffish kid clad in black holding her green koran studies folder.
Very sad..the atmospherics of Islam before your very eyes.
It's child abuse.
I had a conversation with a leftie recently and I shit you not she physically put her fingers in her ears and was screaming "I don't want to know,I don't want to know"
Like some sort of mental child.
I said
"What is it you don't want to know?..I'm not making this stuff up"
She couldn't hear me.
The moonbats are too busy dressing up in orange boiler suits to protest about guantanomo holding banners from amnesty international saying "protect the human"
What about protecting the infidel?..
Problem is we can't vote to make ourselves heard because every candidate for every party is muslim.
Welcome to Lebanon in the peak district.
I wouldn't be surprised if Hezbollah started to move in build rocket silos in all the school playgrounds.
They would probably get a grant of some such and willing volunteers from the chattering classes.
When they are brazen enough to state their agenda, how can the rest of us refuse to believe them? Which of their strategic and tactical plans are they kidding about?
I have something here for inspiration. Especially for our English friends:
And did those feet in ancient time,
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded[sic] here
Among these dark satanic mills?
Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear: o clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight;
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.
TAKE NOTE AMERICAN VOTERS!!
"How can you allow immigrants access to welfare and healthcare that they had no hand in construction or contribution."
........POLITICIANs seeking votes who are in positions to influence immigration regulations allow instant immigration to Muslims to garner enough votes to be elected.......
.....It is these same politicians who do not know how to solve the problem they caused....
.....It is these same immigrants who will never contribute to a beautiful country.....they only destroy....just look at every country they have inhabited for the last 1400 years.....you will see the proof of their contributions to building worthwhile societies....
All you posters rock,man i tell ya it's really good to know that more people are comming here and realizes the same things.It makes me feel better and easier to deal with ( it calms my savage side....for the moment).
The common denominator in most of the posters here was immigration,it always has been an issue.Most people when they think of the immigration issue usually picture the mexicans but thats a different issue .When it comes to the mexican issue it revolves around the illegal subject of it which is very serious.
Mexicans for the most part come here to work,yes they abuse the system but i do not necessarily feel they are out to take over the nation.Hells bells they even join the military and fight with our bros. and sisters to gain legal status.Still it is wrong and hurtful to our systems to come here illegaly.
That said lets move to the islamic immigration,it's atune to the african immigration however nothing compares to the islamic ideal to immigrate,populate and overtake.Most people think "well most muslims are not out to do so" a muslim is a muslim they do as they are told by the hierarchy.
The "extremists" use the physical weopons in the war,the "moderates" use the systems to drag down funds and cause mischief in the political ranks.They live on the dole ,breed like rats and when they go off on a tantrum ( an attack)they point the finger to someone elses fault for them to intergrate into our society.When you go to islamic land you immigrate,leave or are imprisoned or die.
The fact is our gov. is great at making laws ( not that the laws are great) but horrible at upholding them.They love to see thier names next to " author of the law is".
The real misconception of the American freedom is that to do with religion anything that harms someone else is illegal.You are not free to harm people,islam is a killer of all things this is not a mystery.What islam does to other societies ,beliefs and customs is pretty obvious we see it daily in any country they are in and trying to create thier little states within states.Spencer,Hugh why not a book on this subject alone "Islam the killer of identities and dreams" ,hell i don't care what you call it you are the writers write it.
When the next election rolls around and the politicians steer the debates to the war demand answers for immigration.Ask them why do we import the enemy? How smart is this? Why do we keep bringing those unwilling to intergrate when we have too many now?
Why is it okay for taxi drivers to discriminate who they pick up relating to thier beliefs? Why is it filed away by our leaders for islam to have a free hand in saying what they will and won't do here?
If at war with islam,AND WE ARE if even in thier minds just a small percent of "extremists" then why not at the very least suspend islamic immigration.It makes absolutely no sense.
Chances are if us peasants know what islam is really up to then mr/mrs. Harvard,Yale and every other priviliged graduate from the "best " schools our tax money can buy know all too well what they are up to.
I don't know about you but i refuse to be a chalk outline and put there by some hypocrite hillbilly with the aid of the blind eyes of my protectors.
I enjoy reading when the zombies start making demands for special treatment it gives our gov. no room for movement and one day the corner will be at thier backs and the choice and thier decision for all to see,thier actions will lead to my actions.....soon one will have not much to lose if it is to be given away.
I do though have deep faith that our leaders will suddenly wake up and see thier dilema,islams numbers could decrease within hours if need be and driven back to thier holes.
If the waking fails to happen then it must be the days of yore,the rebirth of history where a man and men together will have to do the work and the work will be good and rekindle the fire of freedom that is being spat out by the zombie,it's drooling mouth dripping and salivating over it's dreamland victory inch by inch ,cedation by cedation we will be handed over for persecution only to find pity on the zombie with a swifter sword than thier pitiful master muhammad ever swung.
Immigration and aid are at the least two keys to regripping those who do not aspire to anything other than what they can steal.
Stop paying these things to remain here and stop paying them to live in thier homeland by the will of God ( thier allah )if he deems it they will survive.
We need to start handing out books on how to fish not feed them.We need to stop killing our children in the womb and allow them to take the place of the immigrant,we do not need to import millions of people who only wish to destroy all we have built FOR our children and futures and build thier own to something that approves of the ways they get thier booty.
All the bad that the Bible talks about is in islam,i guess the good news is that it's time will be short just do not allow it to consume your soul,leave no doubt there IS a God and prophecies are fullfilled avery day.
Over the past few years the build up in the middle east,russias behavior,chinas future power grip the relentless genocides and exterminations,incalcuable corruption in all houses,the war to come.There is a calm before the storm.Seven years at some point in the future islam will call a truce that will last seven years probably just long enough to get thier nukes aligned.
But here i go again rambling on,but you get the jest of it.
Islam is using us against us but my eyes are on only one entity for the time being and i am knowing mine enemy well.
John 3:16 says it all
Muhammad says to kill them wherever you find them.
There is no contest.
Scary stuff. But glad to see stories like this getting the word out. Also very glad to see that the story traced all of this hate back to its chief sponsor in the world -- Saudi Arabia. When the hell are Western governments going to wake up and realize that this supposed ally is the worst enemy that we have?
"But oddly enough, the Muslim Council of Britain, the "moderate" group, is unhappy. You would think that a group of moderate Muslims would be cheering the exposure of jihad sympathizers among them, but they're instead sounding all the familiar themes of selective quotation, etc. etc. etc."
..........Muslims just hate the truth.........