Yep, that'll fix it, all right.
Condoleeza Rice proclaims that Muslims are "going to have to overcome" 1,400 years of hostility rooted in what they view as divine revelation. And pronto.
“I don’t think about it in terms of my reputation,” says Ms. Rice. Good thing.
Maybe she's speaking in foggy bottom lingo to try to confuse our enemies. Maybe she is confused about the nature of our enemy. For whatever reason, she has company by legions.
Left, right, Democrats, Republicans, media people, University professors, indoctrinated students,etc,. How is this clash of civilizations going to end?
Yeah, we shall overcome.
And she is Secretary of state? And she has a PhD.?
Yikes!! All of us here know how to do her job better than she does.
Heaven Help Us!
Com'on guys - cut Condi a break - sometimes I have a hard time accepting reality myself...
ISLAM Is a religion of peace.
That why they hate the Westerners, the jews, the Hindus, the Buddhists and hey is there any other religion left.
Well I guess hating these religions and killing them is not enough for this religion for peace so now they also fight amongst themselves.
This my dear friends is a religion of peace.
Wonder why the jews, hindus , christians , budhhists dont kill each other or hate each other .
Only Islam seems to have a problem with anyone and everyone including amongst themselves
Let them focus on what they have in common: hatred for the infidel.
Civil war in Iraq really comes down to determining whether Iraq will be in the sphere of influence of Saudi Arabia with its club-wielding muttawa, or Iran with its gun-wielding basijis.
I thought something smelled bad on this thread and low and behold what do I find as I scroll down a post by holy warrior stinking the place up. Take you your jihadist crap and stick it where the sun dont shine you 7th century barbarian.
April fools?
Politicians need a course in history. I thought Rice was a scholar. Guess not.
Look at the 1400 year history of Islam. There will never, never be peace in the ME.
Often when I interview prospective hires I look to see if they’ve every read a book that wasn’t required for their course work. I’m interested in those who can learn without being spoon fed. I look for intellectual curiosity. I do this regardless if the candidate has only a high school degree or if they have a PhD.
Here we have a PhD in Soviet studies who shows no signs of every reading a book outside her field. If six years she’s never bother to learn about the enemy’s culture and religion. In the State Department, it is obviously “April’s Fools” day everyday.
Obviously, I don’t look for typos:
Often when I interview prospective hires, I look to see if they’ve ever read a book that wasn’t required for their course work. … Here we have a PhD in Soviet studies who shows no signs of ever reading a book outside her field.
Now, for that 1st coffee … sorry!
Quite alright, JasonP. I'm pretty sure everyone figured it out.
“I thought Rice was`a scholar.”by sounder
I thought Rice was a staple for much of the world. What can I say, I'm not iducated like these people seen to be.
Is that so condo? So, has the bush war on terror in Iraq has come down to us fixing the muslims of their hatred for other sects? A hatred that they can justify from their korans? Do we have to spend lives of thousands of us soldiers in a futile attempts to make muslims love each others more than death? Sorry, condo this will not work, for no matter how secular muslims are they still believe in the koran as their ultimate guide.
And above all don't pin your hopes on secular muslim of turkey and the kurds. One day they are secular but next day they will be cutting our throats while screaming "allah akbar", for the koran is still their guide.
As others have pointed out on this site, Condi has a Phd in Soviet Studies. Essentially, she is an expert on a country and system that no longer exists. Her degree might as well be in poetry or archaeology. She is not an expert on Islam and, unfortunately, doesn't seem to want to learn or even hear the truth about it. I like her as a person but she needs to be replaced by someone who understands much better what we are up against.
We will have no peace until all religions die. Superstition has only turned man against man. I long for the day when humanity stops believing in imaginary friends.
RT
raretodd,
Religion is not the issue. Other than islam, no religion is targeting others. No other religion claims that it owns the world, and no other religion promises a better afterlife by killing non-believers. Yes, the issue of conversions does come up sometimes, but it can, and should be resolved at the soonest if we, The Infidels, are to win this war. Most of us do not realize it still, but this war is now about our survival.
There are two things wrong with the statement of Condoleeza Rice.
The first is the o'erweening, history-ignoring idea that Sunni-Shi'a rivalries and hostilities, can "be overcome." The Sunni-Shi'a split long ago transcended the initial quarrel over succession. Now there are differences in the organization of the Shi'a and Sunni variants of Islam: in organization (the power of the Shi'a ayatollahs and other Shi'a clergy has nothing similar in Sunni Islam), in ritual (the Shi'a Ashoura, with its emphasis on self-flagellation), the Shi'a shrines and visits to those shrines, so offensive to austere Sunnis, especially to the most austere of all, the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia. That is, the belief that somehow deeply-held beliefs and attitudes can be "overcome" as if it were a question of civil rights in the South. One of the silliest and most harmful aspects of American governments is the belief that many things are susceptible of change, or of change that will come quickly. "Let's have self-determination now" or "Let's end poverty the way Jeffery Sachs says we can" or "let's just get right in theire and reform Islam." A blend of naivete, ignorance, and arrogance, which yields a most unappetizing brew.
The second thing wrong with Rice's statement is that apparently she cannot conceive of why this Sunni-Shi'a split is a good thing. She cannot conceive of why chaos and confusion and endless hostility between the two main branches or sects of Islam is not something to be exploited, but rather to be deplored. It appears that American governments want always to take the side of this or that plausible group of Musliims. First, it was the Shi'a in exile who managed to woo and win so many in the American government with their tales of WMD (Chalabi and his group), and others who confidently predicted that once the Americans "liberated" Iraq they would be greeted, those Americans, with an outpouring of joy and presumably permanent gratitude that "would make the liberation of Kabul look like a funeral procession." It would cost, according to Wolfowitz and others, nothing like what it cost to maintain those sanctions -- possibly a few tens of billions of dollars. And then it would be over. A "cakewalk," wrote Kenneth Adelman (sometime purveyor of Shakespeare to corporations so that the tycoons and tycoonettes can apply "Shakespeare to the business world).
Many have in this farce, on all sides, in the govenment, and in the press, been weighted and found wanting.
Meanwhile, there's something just over here, freshly scribbled on this wall, that I'd like to show our rulers and our pundits:
"Mene, mene, tekel upharsin."
Do you think they'll be able to make it out?
Iraq's prime minister has dropped his protection of an anti-American cleric's Shiite militia after U.S. intelligence convinced him the group was infiltrated by death squads, two officials said Sunday.
This is from an AP story.
Wow, you think he was shocked by this information?
Imagine, Death Squads in Iraq.
Do you suppose that's why there are always so many dead bodies around?
raretodd - not all things calling themselves religions are equally bad... and they're not all equally good. The false assumption that 'they're all the same' damages our perspective on what needs to be done with Islam.
It's more than a religion -- it's a complete way of live and explanation of the universe. Islam is the set of commands from Allah and Mohammed that control all social / political / religious / legal matters for those in the House of Islam.
This is not the same thing as other things calling themselves religions.
We must free the Islamic world of centuries of 'colonialism and western influence' and only then can the 'awakening giant' of Islam unleash the orgy of carnage that is the caravan-plundering, enslaving, infidel-beheading child molesting heart of this so-called religion.
Most of them have been here for less than 30 years and already they want to limit/silence free speech. Just think, in another 30 years they will be asking for the permanent silencing of those who practice free speech. So the rice has been counted, weighed, divided and found deficient, forget about it and go have a bowl of mashkhul.
If Condi keeps making statements like that, I will begin to think that her hiring was part of some sort of window dressing.
I mean a PHD, Professor,............what gives?
I'm beginnig to think that we should only have licensed Plumbers, Electricians and Carpenters as politicans. I know that Larry the Cable Guy often gives better advice. I'm pretty sure anyday now, we will see him as a political candidate somewhere.
holy warrior,
It's very sad to see you spell the word, "God", as G_D.
The athiest purposely spell it G_D for the substitue of the word, "God," to mock you.
If you don't know, now you know this: the anthiests us G_D for "God_Damned."
Please spell God, don't use G_D again, if you love God, that is.
I understand: You didn't know. God sees your heart that you are sincerely.
"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." 20Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? "
"I'm beginnig to think that we should only have licensed Plumbers, Electricians and Carpenters as politicans. I know that Larry the Cable Guy often gives better advice."
-- from a posting above
Much is made by some posters about the possession of a Ph.D. It is concluded, by some, on the basis of the anecdotal evidence provided by the career of Condoleeza Rice, that all possessors of doctorates are silly, and that the non-holders of doctorates are the guaranteed voice of wisdom. No conclusion can be drawn from the ignorance of Condoleeza Rice alone. But a system which allows for some to rise high without having to submit to cross-questioning, that rewards the dutiful and the team-player, that allows such people as, say, William Kristol to take himself seriously and to be taken seriously, and where denizens of think-tanks, all kinds of operators with their "contacts" and their areas of "expertise," which are then carefully listed by this or that agent, or think-tank's Office of Media Relations, and then sent on to journalists in newsrooms, and various bookers at Charlie Rose and NPR, and of course to those nubile young girls who provide to their randy bosses those lists of "experts" who will be called upon, by some television news-reader in haste, to offer a half-minute of "expertise" in their "area of expertise." A crock, of course. And so are so many of the courses and the training supposedly offered by the Kennedy Schhol, or the Woodrow Wilson School, or the Johns Hopkins School, of advanced internatioinal thisandthat.
But not everyone who is forced to get a doctorate as a hoop through which one must vocationally jump is a fool or a fraud. Knowledge does matter. The problem is that so much of what is demanded is not real knowledge, but the outward show of credentialism, with those credentials earned through study of the wrong things, or the right things wrongly presented.
Albert Wohlstetter and Robert Strausz-Huppe and Fred Ikle are one thing. Anne-Marie Slaughter and Jeffrey Sachs are quite another.
Thank you Hugh.
I wish I could write as cogently as you.
I often use readily recognizable personality types to illustrate the points I'm trying to make.
"Common sence is genius in overalls." Walt Whitman
This saying has more meaning today than ever.
Knowledge does matter. The problem is that so much of what is demanded is not real knowledge, but the outward show of credentialism, with those credentials earned through study of the wrong things, or the right things wrongly presented.
Knowledge is the problem; too much of it is dangerous especially if the "wee-folk" have it.
They start reading books; they start thinking; then they start getting ideas.
Ignorance of course is bliss; and if you are well positioned, you too can be a Solanas:
"I say so; therefore, it is."
... or a Condi Rice in this case.
Some things are more painful to read than others.
I need an aspirin. Thanks, Condi!
“There’s still a tendency to see these things in Sunni-Shia terms. But the Middle East is going to have to overcome that.”
I think its the west that will need to overcome the idea that this split can be resolved.
That's worse telling the Catholics and Lutherans to shake hands and forget what drove them apart.
Very naive.
O.T. for CHAMP
Serious pagans, wiccans and other instant-pudding-heads are most bedevilled (pardon the pun) by the sheer silliness, fun and irreverence of Halloween. Someone, in all solemnness becomes a Goddess Worshipping Pagan and makes Halloween their Sacred Day - it HAS to bring on the giggles. Laughter works wonders on Islamic nuttiness as well.
I would love to see Condi Rice replaced by John Bolton, just imagine someone who speaks the truth as our top diplomat, the world couldn't handle it.
It’s very obvious that people here at JW recognize the lack of substance in Condi’s standing in Good American Middle East policy.
I have no doubt that everyone here is aware of the pain we have after Keith Ellison has been elected to Congress. Let me warn you: Something worse may be coming.
As bad as Condi is at present, I would like you to watch out for the possible apotheosis of Barak Obama, who, has much less knowledge and wisdom than the deranged Jimmy Carter, has emerged from total obscurity to following after Hilary Clinton in his presidential race.
The TV media have propounded his greatness almost every night, making him come the be heard everywhere, but I want you to know something about Obama here:
When Obama’s mother met an Indonesian man, he moved to live in Indonesia, where he grew up and studied at a “MADRASSA”. My fellows, please don’t take me at my words; I encourage you to dig this out yourself.
Here is a dismay reality: Obama, who began from being the last amongst the Democrat presidential contenders, has become 2nd following Hillary Clinton, only in less than two weeks time.
The following is the ABC Polling Results:
In what has been an entire 6-years of disappointments from this administration, Rice has been one of the biggest disappointments. I had hoped she would don the HAZMAT gear, wade into the State Department cesspool, clean it out, and disinfect it. Instead, she has become thoroughly mired in it herself. The poster above has it right ... John Bolton would be a great replacement.
Personally, I LIKE Ms. Rice. I once spoke to her (being the nobody that I am gave that experience a little extra something-- and I didn't think negatively of her.
But that does NOT of course mean that she knows beans about the Middle East. Which she doesn't. Someone ought to tell her to stick to dealing with places she understands (like maybe New Jersey).
Sec. of State Rice reminds me of those Stepford Wives from the old horror movie: a well groomed, well mannered, well spoken conformist robot to her boss's agenda. She is a PC mouthpiece for President Geo Bush. We had an independent thinker in that position before, remember? He was shown the door when he argued his conscience.
The only thing I think we can blame Sec. Rice for is a lack of independent thinking and a complete public ignorance of the issues ( like Intelligence Committee member Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-TX))
Those two failings are horrible in themselves for a person holding her title, but she's not the source of the false assumptions.
Rice is not the worst. She is far superior to others who preceded her. If she invites comparison with two former, and still nattering-away National Security Advisers, Zbigniew Brzezinski and Brent Scowcroft, Condoleeza Rice only gains by the comparison. But that should not be the point of comparison. She, and all others in the government, should be spending their days and nights studying Islam, studying not only the texts -- Qur'an, Hadith, Sira -- but how those texts are naturally received by, not all, but almost all, Muslims, and figure out on what side the textual authority lies. They should learn about taqiyya. They should learn about the history of Islamic conquest and about the subjugation of non-Muslims -- which is not only a matter of history, but can be seen today in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Iraq, Sudan, Saudi Arabia (where the non-Muslims are to found only among the expatriate wage-slaves). They must learn what is so misleading about the phrase "moderate Muslim" -- misleading and unhelpful. They must learn to detect the plausible from the true, to discover the smyler with the knyf under his cloke, as Chaucer emblemized the figure of Treachery he found in Boccaccio, well in advance. They must learn to understand it all, and to undersand not only the texts and the history, but the other attitudes that naturally arise in Islma: aggression, violence, inability to compromise, susceptibility to the most primitive conspiracy theories, blaming of non-Muslims for all the ills that should rightly be attributed to Islam but of course cannot be, and so on.
These are the things she, and so many others, including all of the would-be Presidents now eagerly seeking our support, must learn. Now, not in five or ten years. Now.
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Condoleeza Rice proves beyond all doubt that having a PhD doesn't automatically make a person a font of wisdom. Winston Churchill, a real font of wisdom got no qualifications whatsoever. He qualified in the University of Life - on India's Northwest Frontier with Afghanistan in 1896/97 and in the Sudan in 1897/99. He observed Muslim ways in both places and wrote anbout his experiences in the Sudan in The River War at the tender age of 24, and these two passages really summed up Islam big time, and notice the disturbing caveat at the end of the second paragraph in the passage below:
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
“Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
and notice this which encapsulates Islam from that same book:
“The religion of Islam above all others was founded upon the sword … Moreover it provides incentives to slaughter, and in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men – filled with a wild and merciless fanaticism.”
So Winston Churchill, at just 24, was far in front of Rice, Bush, Blair, indeed every Western leader and wannabe leader, but back in 1899 he wasn't plagued by political correctness, but one of my worries today is that we don't have the hard generations of men today that we used to have in World War II and before. Years of soft living have bred people who are couch potatoes who couldn't be relied upon to defend the West. Could Britain today produce seven million fighting men like it did 65 years ago? No way.
Spirit Of 1683,
I found it very amusing that you and I have read The River War and The Malakand Field Force.
I remember traveling on a bullet train in Tokyo, seeing people reading books in it, in spite of their being packed into a train as tight as sardines in a can.
Talking about Couch potatoes, I have not met anyone yet at work or at church speding much time reading, except a foreign born English teach. What has become of the great West?
Can anyone recount something memorable Condi Rice has done? or has Donald Trump have it right, essentially he said:
1. she boards a plane, and she waves
2. she has a diplomatic meeting in the ME, a photo op follows, and she waves
3. she boards the plane to come home, and she waves
4. she lands back in DC, and she waves
Start with #1 again.
Is that all?
Dear Spirit of 1683,
"The religion of Islam above all others was founded upon the sword...Moreover it provides incentives to slaughter.....WOW !!!
"Old Testament Time"
I know the answer but I'm sure I need BACK_UP
BUT 1st!?
What does the date 1683, mean to you?
What does this date 2007(7) mean to you?!
Condi,
Islam contains the seeds of its own destruction.
We just need to confine it until it self-destructs.
Above all, don't do anything that would allow it to include our destruction.
Spirit Of 1683,
Your quotes of Churchill's observations of Muslims, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries have less to do with Churchill's perspicacity than with the fact that that was another era. When Churchill made those observations, he was not going against the grain of his society, and probably most people would have unremarkably agreed with him. It was to be much more difficult, some 30 years later, for Churchill to rouse England and Europe to the threat of Hitler (or, later, to the threat of the USSR).
Now, we are in another era, where such observations he made 100 years ago go profoundly against the general grain. I mean, how profoundly entrenched is a paradigm that it will have to take probably several widely dispersed, horrible attacks and the deaths of probably hundreds of thousands of our own, before we wake up?
Frankly, I think that Churchill's difficulties in rousing England and Europe to the threat of Hitler in the 1930s pale comparison with the difficulties we have today of rousing the general populace (PhDs as well as cable guys, and all walks of life in between) from its PC Multiculturalist paradigm.
The thing about Rice is that she keeps making statements that DO NOT MAKE SENSE!
I keep reading them over and over and I can't make sense of them. Not only that, but it has NOTHING to do with the subject.
I figure it's Doublespeak - and Rice thinks we're stupid, ignorant peasants still in the Dark Ages.
Hey--Who is this guy Hugh, he cant even spell school!!!
Chill, just a joke. Thanks Hugh for all you post!
My take on Pres. Bush and Sec. Rice and others in our government is that they exhibit a somewhat flawed "world view". For those not familar with that term in light of Christian teaching, it means a view of the worlds events, politics,nations, etc. in relation to Bible escatology and prophecy. Bush and Rice come from main line denominational churches that believe in "replacement theology", hense this "road map" pressure on Nation Israel to give up covenant land to the Arab nations.Also as "one worlders" and being linked to the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, they are activily developing, as most former Presidents and "Gorby", an American Union as part of a one world government with no national borders between Canada, Mexico, and the U.S.
I would advise all to go to www.watch.org and click on the red highlighted article titled --"110 million American Christians" and then, within the atticle, click on Clarence Wagners link for an in-depth study.
ssa---What you spoke about Osama--oops--Obama is in the article in the Provacative Commentary section. It details Hillary's campaign staffers backgrounding Obama and finding what you mentioned.
Here is a "provacative" view on my part, I believe as soon as Hilly would be elected, she would appoint Bill as Ambassador to the United Nations. Can you imagine those two back in the White House again?
Chew on this for a while: A man who has since passed, who headed up the largest Ministry in the world, believed very strongly that Bill Clinton IS the Anti-Christ!!!!
Hmmmmmmm
The reason no leader today in the UK and US will make an observation as harsh as Winston Churchill's is because, as even Robert Spencer puts it, racism is the national trauma. It applies to the UK too. For too many years, the dominant thought favored the whites and now people bend over backwards to portray all cultures as equal. There is a fine line between genuinely criticizing Islam and demonizing its followers, most of whom are of brown skin color. Too many people have not found that line and therefore don't want to have anything to do with analyzing Islam. And that's why people may be reluctant to vote for the BNP, a party that has fascist roots. I certainly wouldn't want to vote for the BNP if I was an Indian living in the UK.
I hope someone in the Bush Administration finds this web site because this is the best criticism of Islam out there.
Years of soft living have bred people who are couch potatoes who couldn't be relied upon to defend the West. Could Britain today produce seven million fighting men like it did 65 years ago? No way.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683
I think they could easily produce those men - IF someone were to call for them! It's harder to find the right leader than it is to find the people.
That may sound weird but think of all the examples to back that up. People will follow - either way.
"Serious pagans, wiccans and other instant-pudding-heads are most bedevilled (pardon the pun) by the sheer silliness, fun and irreverence of Halloween. Someone, in all solemnness becomes a Goddess Worshipping Pagan and makes Halloween their Sacred Day - it HAS to bring on the giggles."
Actually, it IS a serious Holy Day - anad BEFORE christianity. And BEFORE the candy and costume companies. took it over.
This was a day in the Celtic Calendar where the Veil Between the Realities Thinned. Celts occupied not only the Uk - but ancient Spain, the Eur. COntinent all the way to Greece.
What was known in Ancient times is being re-dicovered today under the name of Quatum Physics. QP has found not only that that subatomics particles exists, but that there is another parcitle they call Quarks - that blink in and out of this 3rd Dimension- they can't be seen, but a special recordiing machine traces them. QP has found then that notihing is solid and not only this, but that in this dimension we are all made of energy waves and futher, we are all made of light. Astronomy has discovered that the Mirror Matter of this Light World is Dark Matter. As I understand it, 90% of the Universe missing - it is made up of Dark Matter.
This confirms that there mysteries seen and unseen. There are many things we don't understand, but they are validated by Science, and Astronomy.
Are you going to argue with Science?
So those who practice, observe ALl Hallows Eve, are who practice it are NOT pudding heads.
Christianity is NOT the only religion in this wide world that is valid. And worthy of respect.
Before christianity there was Paganism or polytheism. A philosophy that waw GOD part and parcel of all things.
In fact, our Western Culture originated from the "Pagans" Ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, and even today much of the Polyetheism of Africa and India influences our lives. For instance, the African rhythms in today's music.
As well, one may not agree with them, the "Pagan" philosophies were able to coexist with others without religious conflicts. Everyone lived and let live. JUST for this attitude, they ware worthy of respect.
wrathofasma,
I agree. The vector of Anti-Racism in its ideological context of PC Multiculturalism has been, over the past 60-odd years, a major force in the development of the strangely Anti-Western world view the West has now, which presents massive obstacles to rather simple and rational analyses of, and courses of actions to deal with, the Problem of Islam.
Correction - for easier reading
Serious pagans, wiccans and other instant-pudding-heads are most bedevilled (pardon the pun) by the sheer silliness, fun and irreverence of Halloween. Someone, in all solemnness becomes a Goddess Worshipping Pagan and makes Halloween their Sacred Day - it HAS to bring on the giggles."
Actually, it IS a serious Holy Day - and BEFORE christianity. And BEFORE the candy and costume companies took it over.
This was a day in the Celtic Calendar where the "Veil Between the Realities" thinned. Celts occupied not only the UK - but ancient Spain, the Eur. Continent all the way to Greece.
What was known in Ancient times is being re-discovered today under the name of Quantum Physics. QP has found not only that that subatomics particles exists, but that there is another particle even smaller- that physicists call Quarks - these blink in and out of this 3rd Dimension- they can't be seen, but a special recording machine traces them. QP has found then that nothing is solid and not only this, but that in this dimension we are all made of energy/waves and further, we are all made of Light.
Astronomy has discovered that the Mirror Matter of this Light World is Dark Matter. As I understand it, 90% of the Universe is missing - it is made up of Dark Matter.
READ IT AGAIN:
THE MAJORITY OF THE UNIVERSE IS MADE UP OF THINGS WE CAN'T SEE.
This confirms that there mysteries seen and unseen. There are many things we don't understand, but they are validated by Science, and Astronomy.
Are you going to argue with Science?
So those who practice, observe All Hallow's Eve, who practice it, are NOT pudding heads.
This is an ancient knowledge that we're only just re-discovering.
Christianity is NOT the only religion in this wide world that is valid. And worthy of respect.
Before christianity there was Paganism or polytheism. A philosophy that saw GOD part and parcel of all things, the life force ins plants, clay, th Earth, and animals, the air ( breath) and fire that used the oxygen/air - as well as human beings.
In fact, our Western Culture originated from the "Pagans" Ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, and even today much of the Polyetheism of Africa and India influences our lives. For instance, the African rhythms in today's music.
As well, one may not agree with them, but the "Pagans" philosophies were able to coexist with others without religious conflicts. Everyone lived and let live. JUST for this attitude, they are worthy of respect.
Note also, that Christians continue to put flowers on the graves of those who have transcended, as well as talk to those loved one, acknowledging these still live. Not only is this a remnant of "Pagan" customs, but it is in fact, an acknowledgement that there are things unseen and unknown.
So kindly have respect for the beliefs of others, This includes the beliefs of this includes Hindus, Taoists and Shintoism.
wrathofasma says
The reason no leader today in the UK and US will make an observation as harsh as Winston Churchill's is because, as even Robert Spencer puts it, racism is the national trauma. It applies to the UK too. For too many years, the dominant thought favored the whites and now people bend over backwards to portray all cultures as equal. There is a fine line between genuinely criticizing Islam and demonizing its followers, most of whom are of brown skin color. Too many people have not found that line and therefore don't want to have anything to do with analyzing Islam. And that's why people may be reluctant to vote for the BNP, a party that has fascist roots. I certainly wouldn't want to vote for the BNP if I was an Indian living in the UK.
I hope someone in the Bush Administration finds this web site because this is the best criticism of Islam out there.
I wouldn't totally rule out a prominent American or Australian politician eventually saying something like what Churchill said, but I will guess someone will say it by around 2015-2020, when PC gets consigned to the dustbin, although I greatly fear the event that will lead them to say it.
Ha, ha, ha! Ms Rice is both abed and woman. Having her in the mid-east as the representative of the most powerful nation in the world is "perfect" for the time. Unfortunately, there's no one else in the President's sphere who knows the truth either. So let islam suffer and have to shake the hand of the female abed. It is a humiliation for them.
guide inside
I appreciate your introduction to www.watch.org
Here is the bottom line of the article about Obama:
Will the real Obama please stand up? Jesus said in Matthew 7:15, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”
It is one of the most quoted verses amongst Christians living in Islamic world; I have been reminded of it since my tender age. When I hear the loud speaker chanting 5 times a day, I was bound to hear one amongst us says,“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.---HIS NAME IS MOHAMMED”
(Coming in late)
On the original topic, shamelessly stolen:
"The Scots paused in the war with their age-old enemy, the Scots, and made war on the English."
"I Am the Way, and the Truth, and the Light. No man comes unto the Father except through me."
Yeah, Yeshua ben Joseph said he was The Tao - The Way - That in my opinion, but in my opinion only, meant THE PATH...that shows...points out the direction.
A PATH -TAO --T E A C H I N G S that one must go through to get to THE SOURCE...THE GOD OF ALL
As to Truth!
As Yeshua said to Pilate: "What is Truth?"
Unfortunately, we didn't get the details or the end of the Audience with Pontius Pilate.
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But I can answer that.
Every body has their own truth. Their own experience in this LIfe and how it effects them. Their view...viewpoint
My truth is mine, and yours is yours.
Which leads us back to this Forum - and the struggle to have a worship of the Creator in their own Way.
Thus our complete resistance and struggle AGAINST THE INSIDIOUS ISLAM. No pun intented. He, he. ):
Most of us do not realize it still, but this war is now about our survival.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at January 22, 2007 10:02 AM
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Even after 9/11, there is major refusal by the majority of Americans to realize that America is in harms way with the cult of islam. Way too many Americans believe that bad things always happen to others and not to America. America is invincible, just listen to our federal government regardless of our open borders...........and tens of thousands of terrorists that have entered America across these open borders.
In addition, prosperity Christian Americans have been raised to believe that no harm will come to them in the end times for they will be raptured before the war............the rapture comes after the last horn blows after the war.............
America and Americans refuses to realize that we are in a very bitter war with the cult of islam for our very survival........there have been many wake up calls, but the majority of America still sleeps even after 9/11........
the next wake up call will be WMD's, dirty bombs and/or nukes gong off in America.........
Do you think this is probable????
or do you think that the cult of islam will give up conquering the world.
Have you prepared???????
Are you armed?????????
Are you ready???????
What will you do if WMD's and/or nukes go off in America????????? Think, prepare, plan and be ready for this will happen....
God bless America, Israel, England, Australia, Ethiopia, Darfur our Fighting Forces and keep us free.
The Texican.
God, Family, America and Freedom, the only choice at any cost.
The Texican,
Back from vacation? All recuped and ready to fight the good long fight? Glad to see ya back.
Condi Rice may have a point, after all. Iraq is something of a blend, thanks to Limey "nation building". One of the outcomes has been inter-marriage between Shia and Sunni which suggests that there has been some "cooperation" in the past. If the "rule of law" comes to that place, then maybe Condi will be right. Would I bet big money on that outcome? No way. Sadly, the leadership of both branches of Islam has decided to take Iraq as their own. Could get very messy. Locally, the Shia has the force advantage, but a wider view shows that the Sunni version rules all the way from the western tip of Africa to Indonesia. And, it used to include most of Iberia, now called Spain and Portugal.
Sunni and Shia do agree on one thing, conversion of the entire planet. They have their eye on the ball; do we?
I believe anyone sponsoring the construction of a mosque should architectually design it as a prison and after completion, lock-em all up and throw the key away !
SHOCK!!!
I,m 7th cousin to Bing Crosby!!!
so they say
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Muslims not only hate non-muslims but they hate each other too. Such is the religion of peace.
There's nothing better than finding an article written by a muslim who, although dreams of the caliphate, also admits to himself and others that that very caliphate would be far from harmonious.
Let's face it, WHO would be the boss?
Read the article here...
http://godhelpbritain.blogspot.com/2007/01/horses-mouth-this-is-article-which.html