Thailand: Bomb in mosque was brought in by Muslim

Stupidity is its own punishment

""But here, cleverly disguised as a bomb, is a bomb."
- Bullwinkle Moose

Maybe it's the start of a trend...

Talk about "brain drain". We must have taken out a lot of the top tier Islamists. Perhaps that is why they are sending them back to their home countries.

Say what you want about Iraq - too many Iraqis killed, civil war, democracy incompatibility - fly paper catches flies.

Now if we could only get them to do that in EVERY mosque.

Dumb, dee, dumb dumb.

If you missed it a few days ago - Atlas Shrugs: PUT DOWN THE DUCKIE! Islamists Hide Bombs in Toys.

Bandop said police still had to investigate Nasis' motive for carrying the bomb into a sacred place.

He was probably going to use it later, after his sacred prayers had excited his sense of peace and love, to murder elderly Buddhists in the street.

So typical of the rampant stupidity and low IQ of Muslims. You have to be an idiot to be that brain washed right?

Ecercising taqiyya - In refrain please: "3... 2... 1... "he's not a Muslim, a Muslim never does such a thing especially on such an important holiday" Sonthi - Army commander in chief before the findings of the muslim in Chinag Mai.

Here is quite a good editorial about the army's failure in generell.
The remarks before the editorial may be suitable for any other country too.
http://civoc.com/society/?p=103

they did not believe a Muslim would bring a bomb into a mosque

the muslim standard for lack of formal training in all matters is evident or the mosque would be on the ground and all inside dead............

Good point, Texican. I scratch my head when I think of some of the dumb moves they make, and they do it with a straight face! There may be hope for us yet.

Posted by: Arnie

Ecercising taqiyya - In refrain please: "3... 2... 1... "he's not a Muslim, a Muslim never does such a thing especially on such an important holiday" Sonthi - Army commander in chief before the findings of the muslim in Chiang Mai.

Meanwhile, several school fires were reported earlier in Thailand's northern and northeastern provinces, which were considered the strongholds of Thaksin and his Thai Rak Thai party.

http://english.people.com.cn/200701/01/eng20070101_337590.html

Maybe he was just handing in his home-work.

I am not surprise to hear, in the name of loyalty, the Muslim villagers’ refusal to believe any amongst them would bring the bomb to the mosque. What they do is also what the people do in America. Many people, whom I have come to contact everyday, in America, do not believe Islam is a violent religion, including many Christians at my work and at my church.

You may laugh at others’ stupidity, while you are blind to your own. Can’t you see how CAIR as an Islamic organization is ravaging your country from within? Being a Jihad Watch reader, you may say you are familiar with CAIR, but think for a moment: There are more than 300 million citizens in the US; how many of you would bother to read Jihad Watch? I can count with my fingers the number who faithfully read and write comment here. Half of these come only to say, “Hurray,” or “Yeah,” but I only have seen a very small number who recognize that America is a sinking ship.

I was a man of no country; I was displaced from one country to another, till I was 33 years old. My last stop fortunately has been America, who gave me a home, but it aches my heart seeing how clueless are the inhabitants of this land. If I were an unmarried and without a child, I would not have bothered to post any comment here, and would have let it go to the devil, but it aches me seeing my son and those, who appreciate American Judeo Christian value, must see it being ravage from within.

I have been a very lucky man. While I escaped the Islamic sword and a home in America, many members of my clan died under it. Now, let me ask you: Where will you go, when America ceased to be free?

So many bombs, so little time to report them.
“December 30th the main Madrid airport (Barajas) was hit by a car bomb.
ETA is part of a broad international network that includes al qaeda, after all. Back in October, Spanish radio announced that ETA had provided false passports to some of the (al qaeda) terrorists involved in the assassination of Rabbi Kahane in New York City in 1990,”
http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/michaelledeen/2007/01/02/the_tangled_web_one_more_time.php

Very interesting, I have always suspected they are a loose confederation, helping each other when they can. Allies for the moment, but they would fight it out amongst each other in the end.

Meanwhile, several school fires were reported earlier in Thailand's northern and northeastern provinces, which were considered the strongholds of Thaksin and his Thai Rak Thai party.
http://english.people.com.cn/200701/01/eng20070101_337590.html
Posted by: shiva at January 3, 2007 11:38 AM

It could get out of control if blackmailing continues. People are really fed up. I think is really ugly now in sight of all the tragedies. Fingerpointing, false accusations seems to be the interim government's policy.

We can only hope that people won't act cracy in that would only pour oil into the flames.
http://civoc.com/society/?p=105

Correction: While I escaped the Islamic sword and FOUND a home in America, many members of my clan died under it.

the whole thing may turn into covering the truth by taqiyyas and kitmans. I have never observed such a behavior in Thailand before.
http://civoc.com/society/?p=105

After all, there were no bombs during the times of Mohammed, just swords, so bombing Infidels would be unislamic. Beheading, OTOH,...

Has anybody considered he was bringing the bomb OUT of the mosque

May be he was picking up it for use elsewhere. Just a thought.

I know he "confessed" to bringing it from home, but it just seems odd to me that a muslim would TAKE a bomb to a mosque.

Not to forget to mention

Half of Thailand is still under martial law, so the army can play its influence and arrest(silence) anyone secretly if it dicides too, but not for the sake of the nation some could guess and not after all it has presented and commented so far.
...Thailand is in the midst of takiyyas and kitmans.

http://civoc.com/society/?p=105

It was his homework from the madrassa.

"Bandop said he had reported his findings to community leaders, but the people said they did not believe a Muslim would bring a bomb into a mosque."

Gee Muslims blow up Mosques in Iraq all the time. Suuni blows up Shiite Mosque and vice versa. I'm certainly getting tired of having to read the lies and deceipt and false piousness of thi" Religion of pieces " on a daily basis. i feel like i live in a world of hypocricy, denial and appeasement with no logical point, or purpose , simply to not anger them.

When is the other shoe going to drop and when are all the cards going to be on the table so we can actually start to do something real about this pestilence known as Islam?

enough of their agenda and deception.

updates ib Thailand

Bombs a diversion from allegations, TRT claims

The Thai Rak Thai Party yesterday challenged Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont and the Council for National Security (CNS) chief Sonthi Boonyaratglin to swear that they do not organise the bombs in Bangkok to overshadow reports of allegations against them.

Thai Rak Thai Party caretaker deputy spokesman Chatuporn Prompan asked if Surayud and Sonthi created the bomb attacks to divert public attention from the allegations that Surayud encroached on reserved forest and that Sonthi had registered two marriages.

He defended the party after allies of the former PM were blamed for the blasts in the capital on the New Year's Eve.

He alleged the government and the CNS defamed deposed prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra whenever they were in trouble, and warned that Surayud and Sonthi would face the same fate as Field Marshall Thanom Kittikachorn and Gen Suchinda Kraprayoon.

The nation

Well,it sure beats bringing them into cafe bars and on board buses.

there have been other instances where Muslims have accidently set off exposives inside of Mosques.

It could be that the bombs are assembled inside of Mosques. US Marines have known for some time about this, but because of political correctness they are forbidden to enter or attack.

I agree, he could have been on his way out to seek some innocent merchant,or child to slay in the name of Allah.

YESSSIRR, Islam the Religion of Peace.

Posted by: s_sgt7 at January 3, 2007 12:30 PM
spread the word, I like your post
http://civoc.com/society/?p=102

Posted by: exsgtbrown at January 3, 2007 12:45 PM

I haven't considered that yet, - good point. Even in the south of Thailand they were sheltered in mosques and police and army were denied to enter(with dogs sometimes)into the mosques until it was to much for them.

The fool probably brought his bomb into the mosque so it could be blessed by one of the "holy" men. Either that or he needed a repair job on it from the "holy" man. Either way, it least it blew up in a good place. Besides, he'd make a rotten suicide bomber-the thing needs to be firmly attached to the idiot to be most effective-obviously, his local "holy" man didn't instruct him properly.

poor boy, he's going to be punished by allah too, because he's missed the target.
Will Sonthi or Aree stone him? - Or was it the secret weapon factory from Thaksin(his home province)?

~~~wink~~~

'Where will you go, when America ceased to be free?' ~ ssa

Being an American living in Canada, I have to say- Not up here!

j/k. However I am Not kidding when I remind everyone of conyers' H.Res 288, which if it gets through could well be a Major chill on Freedom of Speech. And with the Left in power in Congress.... America may cease to be free even faster.

Select a document, any of the four will do, and you will see the problem with islam in the USA.
http://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/instructional/resources/FoundingDocuments/index.htm
I would not worry about that usurper in Michigan.

Islam is Thailand's largest religious minority, comprising about 10 per cent of the total population. Most of today's Muslims are concentrated in the southernmost provinces bordering Malaysia; Narathiwat, Pattani, Yala, Songkhla and Satun. They are predominantly of ethnic Malay stock and speak a dialect known as Yawi. But unknown to most, in Thailand's far north there are also substantial numbers of followers of the Prophet Mohammed, descended from overland traders of Turkic-Chinese extraction.

Islam and opium both first came to Southeast Asia with seafaring Arab and Persian traders and adventurers in the 8th century. They settled in the Malay Peninsula, set up businesses, took local wives and raised their children according to the principles of Shari'ah law. By the end of the 10th century they had established a substantial Muslim community but it wasn't until the great SE Asian Hindu-Buddhist Empires began to weaken, between the 12th and 15th centuries, that Islam began to flourish.

This fascinating but difficult to read historical article on the "Golden Triangle" was printed in The Nation (April, '97).
"During the latter half of the 20th century the little-known and often lawless region where Laos, Burma, Thailand and China meet has become known and widely romanticized as "The Golden Triangle". Originally a Western designation applied to the region because of its wealth in jade, silver, rubies, lumber, rare animal products and, above all, opium, the name has stuck and is today accepted both in Chinese and in Thai.

By reputation, by very definition, the area is off the beaten track. The home of drug warlords, arms dealers, insurgent armies, latter-day slave traders and plain, old-fashioned bandits, it's also the home of an extraordinarily wide range of colourful ethnic minorities, many still only partly known and understood, and a veritable Tower of Babel linguistically.

In recent years the defeat of communist insurgences in Thailand and Burma, coupled with the lowering of the Bamboo Curtain in China and Laos as both those countries slowly switch to free trade, has opened some parts of the Golden Triangle to the outside world for the first time in decades.

Other areas- most notably Burma's unadministered Was States- have never been open. Even during the British Raj the area remained sealed off, closed to outsiders. And for good reason; the "Wild Was" were head-hunters who lived in all-but-impregnable thorn- stockaded villages. The only way by a narrow, winding tunnel, pierced with narrow slots which ensured the uninvited could be pierced with spears as they wormed their way in. Heads were taken to ensure the fertility of the harvest, and prominently displayed near the frontiers of Was territory. Hardly surprisingly, people stayed away.

People stayed away; yet there was one exception. The rugged, indomitable Chinese muleteers known to the Burmese as Panthay, and to the Thai and Lao as Haw or Chin Haw, were- and to some extent still are- the masters of the Golden Triangle. Certainly they were the traders par excellence, penetrating into the remotest reaches of forbidden territory such as the Was States, while at the same time their mule caravans, laden with everything from precious stones and jade to opium and copper pans, traded as far as Luang Phabang in Laos, Moulmein in Burma, Tali and Kunming in Yunnan, and Chiang Mae in northern Thailand. Wherever they went they were protected with the best weapons money could buy, and they used these to good effect to ensure the respect of the law-abiding and the fear of the lawless.

When the British first arrived in the Shan State in 1886, they were amazed to find the Panthays armed with Remington repeater rifles better, in most cases, than those of their own troops. Today, of course, it is the semi-automatic AK 47, with it's tell-tale curved ammunition clip, which rules the roost. The question arises, who are these hardy people, and where did they come from? The Thais- even Thai academics- often designate them as a ""Chinese Hill Tribe", and lump them together as Chin Haw (a designation they detest and will not recognise) to distinguish them from the far more numerous Hua Chiao, or "Overseas Chinese", who arrived in Thailand by sea and have settled in large numbers throughout the country, forming an estimated 10 percent of the Thai population.

If the Hakka, Hokkien, Hainanese and Cantonese can be styled Overseas Chinese, then an altogether appropriate designation for the "Chin-Haw" must be Overland Chinese. Yunnanese-speaking muleteers and traders, they walked or rode into Thailand and Burma by the back door of the Golden Triangle. They do not consider themselves Chinese, and the only distinction they recognise is between Hui, or Muslim Chinese, and Han, or non-Muslim Chinese. At this point those unacquainted with the complex ethnic and religious patchwork of the Golden Triangle may legitimately raise a quizzical eyebrow. Muslims in the Golden Triangle? And Chinese ones at that?

Sop Ruak, where Burma, Thailand and Laos meet, is a long way from the Middle East by any standard. Why, how, when did this come about? To find an answer we have to travel back in time about 600 years, to the Yunan Dynasty, when the Mongols ruled not only China, but a broad swathe of land extending across Central Asia to the Russian steppes and large parts of the Middle East. Like any large and successful empire, the Mongols used mercenary and conscript troops. In remote frontier areas- such as southern Yunnan- they also borrowed from Chinese tradition, "using barbarians to control barbarians". In suppressing the remnants of the Southern Sung and extending their control as far as Pagan, then capital of Burma, they employed fierce Uzbek fighters from the Khanate of Bukhara in Central Asia.

By the late 13th century Yunnan had been successfully incorporated in the Mongol realm, and Kublai Khan turned his attention further afield. Some of his Turkic mercenaries were sent to attack Burma- the likenesses of tow are still recorded in frescoes to Pagan, one officer supporting a fierce hunting falcon on his wrist. Others were ordered to settle in newly conquered Yunnan to ensure the continued pacification of the province. They were given Chinese wives, and one Shams Alden Al Becker was made governor. As a further reward, the faithful Muslims were given control over roads and communications. From that time, their grip on the trade of the region has rarely slackened. Even today most out of the way hostelries are Muslim run, and truck drivers, as much as muleteers, are likely to be followers of the Prophet Muhammad.

During the centuries following their settlement in Yunnan the Uzbek followers of Shams Alden gradually became assimilated through intermarriage into the local population a process which continues today. They became increasingly Chinese in appearance , and they adopted Yunnanese Chinese as their language, retaining Arabic only for religious instruction, and forgetting Turkish completely. To their Han neighbours they became known as Hui, or Chinese speaking Muslims.

Relations weren't always good, but they got along fairly well until the mid- 19th century, when oppression by the Ch'ing authorities sparked a major Muslim rebellion. Between 1855 and 1873 a large part of Western Yunnan broke away from the Ch'ing Empire as local Muslim set up their own state, Ping Nan Kuo, or "Kingdom of the Peaceful South". Their leader, Tu Wen hsiu, styled himself Sultan Sulayman and tellingly donned Ming Dynasty costume, indicating loyalty to the Ch'ing's predecessors rather than to some distant Middle Eastern potentate.

In the end the more powerful Ch'ing armies triumphed, massacring innocent Hui as well as rebels as they advanced. Many Hui, amongst them the most hardened supporters of Tu Wen hsiu, fled into the hills of the Golden Triangle with their horses and arms. This was no new territory to them their trade routes had criss crossed the region for centuries, and because of their influence Yunnanese Chinese was already the lingua franca of the area.

Some of the Hui refugees made their way south, through the Golden Triangle to Chiang Mae, the capital of northern Thailand, where they established a small trading post which became known as Ban Chin Haw, or Chin Haw Village today the area of the world famous Chiang Mae Night Bazaar. Others settled as far afield as Vientiane and Rangoon, though they maintained touch with each other, and with their fellows at home in Yunnan, through an extensive network of trade links and caravan routes. The toughest of Tu Wen-hsiu's followers made their way into the Was States, where they made a temporary treaty with the Was ruler and established themselves at the small, isolated settlement of Panglong. In time they defeated and dominated the local Was, making Panglong the defacto capital of the region.

When the British arrived in 1886 they contracted with the new rulers of Panglong to supply mule trains for the colonial armies. Records form the time make it clear that the British regarded the hardy Chinese Muslims whom they styled Panthays, after the Burmese usage as the most advanced people in the region, noting with evident surprise the wealth and power of Panglong. But how was such money amassed in so remote a point of the Golden Triangle? As Sir George Scott, the first commissioner of the Shan States, cryptically observed armed with repeating rifles, financed by Chinese syndicates form Singapore, the Panthays of Panglong sent long caravans of mule trains the length and breadth of the region, carrying yes, carrying pots and pans and walnuts and cotton and all manner of knick kancks but above all, carrying opium.

Until the fall of the Ch'ing Dynasty and the establishment of the Chinese Republic in 1911, the Yunnanese Muslims of the Golden Triangle had things pretty much their own way. Nobody neither the French, nor British, nor Siamese, nor Chinese exerted more than a nominal influence over the region, and the traders flourished. By way of example, in 1926 Panglong was visited by GE Harvey, British superintendent of the Shan states, only to be informed by the inhabitants: "Neither the Chinese government nor the British means anything to us. It's we who rule here."

Shiva,

Your source is accurate. The ethnicities you have listed do still exist all over the world, including Europe and America (North and South).

Today, the Golden Triangle still remains intact. The Chinese drug lords there flew back and forth from there to Hong Kong, San Francisco, Amsterdam, and also New York.

The communist government of China, no doubt, exploits this to some extent against the West—its ex-foreign minister, Chao En Ly, once said,, “As the English poison us with opium, through time we will infuse narcotic back into the blood of their young generations.” From opium war, the Chinese have learned to become very sensitive to drug trafficking in their countries. Singapore is one example.

Boys and girl,

If you are a drug edict, if don’t believe what I say here, you may try it and find it out yourself, but I warn you: death will be your reward when you finally learned it.

Warning: if you were found with a fraction of a once of drug upon your arrival in Singapore, you will surely die.

Wake up America, clean up your country of this filth!

This is bad news. For a long time, the north of Thailand was largely free of Islamic militancy--other than a kind that meshed with a general Chinese anti-Communism.

Also, while definitely "visible", the Hui are only a portion of the Golden Triangle's Yunnanese Chinese.

Also, the name of the Mongol dynasty in China (which planted Muslims in the mountainous Southwest) was Yuan, not Yunan. Yunnan (two n's--it means "South of the Clouds") is the Chinese province that abuts Burma and Laos.

The fool probably brought his bomb into the mosque so it could be blessed by one of the "holy" men.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS

Darn it, ISLAMISFORLOSERS, your post beat me to it. No doubt, the blessing of the bombs is a frequent festivity in some mosques. After all some Catholic communities have a blessing of the fishing fleet or a blessing of the dairy herds. To each his own.

Darn it, ISLAMISFORLOSERS, your post beat me to it. No doubt, the blessing of the bombs is a frequent festivity in some mosques. After all some Catholic communities have a blessing of the fishing fleet or a blessing of the dairy herds. To each his own.

Posted by: ebonystone at January 3, 2007 03:08 PM

Sometimes I wonder if that's also the place where they pick up a bomb as well, or at least get some pointers on improving one. Hell, I just look at a mosque as a Wal-Mart for jihadists-a one stop shop for all their murderous needs.

Good one, thanks!

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
have bombers wear burqas
..

Thailand: Bomb in mosque was brought in by Muslim

A Muslim? That's so weird. I was sure that it would turn out to be a Methodist who brought the bomb into the mosque. Wrong again. I'm so embarrassed.

Lets not forget, mooslems have no problem killing each other.

ssa

Thoughful post.

I hope you take every opportunity to inform people about the danger that Islam poses to the USA, and to the West in general. These days, I dont give a damn about PC, and will take any opportunity to raise the issue of Islam's danger. I also feel that the USA, because of its nature, is in far greater danger then Europe.

Separatists deny hand in bombing

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=115765

To Shiva:

You seem remarkably well informed about history here. I wonder, do you know of or have any links to any documentation regarding modern Singapore’s wealth not magically acquired through trading but instead by being the bankers and money launderers of China’s drug trade? I have heard this from American military officers I have known but have never come across any supporting evidence. A bit off topic but since we are all here I thought I would ask.

I would also mention that the Muslims in Chiang Mai were extremely active during the early period of America’s invasion of Iraq. We had never seen anything like the protests and terror loving placards they carried before. They are a real threat we have not even begun to wake up to here in Thailand.

Laosuwan

Gary: remember that legislations can be overturned and are often not permanent anyway. I know the bill of which you speak and it is worrisome.

Americans have been free long enough and made enough use of their freedoms to at least have resources on reserve to enable them to carry on in spite of bad government legislations aimed at curtailing their freedoms. My prediction is Conyers' bill won't succeed if it does pass, and will get repealed in a hurry. I also have a feeling that Ms. Pelosi will get reined in in a hurry (and will end up looking even more like the sixties BATMAN villainess 'Nora Clavicle' than ever)

If I remember correctly the Democrats' majority is rather slim so I think too much may be getting made out of it by the media. I also won't be surprised to some defecting out of the Dems as, believe it or not some good Democrats DO remain (I still respect Dianne Feinstein for example). I suspect that many Dems who have been in the party for a long time are APPALLED by the new bunch that's taken over and by their ideological shenanigans. I do not remember the Dems ever being so off base as not (well, all right there WAS McGoofy in '72).

There is light at the end of this tunnel. But we must remember that freedom is never entirely free---there are times when it is necessary to fight for it. I think there's enough Americans around who will fight for the cause of liberty to see it through in America. I know I will be there fighting for it.