These laws are wrongheaded and dangerous, and this case has actually nothing to do with race, but it is some small consolation to see that at least so far they are being applied to jihadists, and not solely to non-Muslim critics of the jihad.
"Muslim on racial hatred charges," by David Brown in the TimesOnline, with thanks to all who sent this in:
A Muslim protester called for the bombing of Denmark and the United States during a demonstration against the publication of cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad, the Old Bailey was told yesterday.Umran Javed is accused of soliciting to murder unbelievers and Danes and Americans, and of inciting racial hatred, in a speech outside the Danish Embassy in Central London in February last year.
Police video of the protest, played to the jury, showed Mr Javed, 27, leading chants of “Bomb, bomb USA. Bomb, bomb Denmark”. Officers in charge of monitoring the demonstration told the court that they did not arrest any of the protesters on the day because of fears that it would lead to violence.
Mr Javed, a British citizen, of Washwood Heath, Birmingham, said in the speech that the Western world would pay a heavy price for declaring war on Allah and the Prophet Muhammad.
He said that “disbelievers” should learn from the murder of the Dutch film-maker Theo van Gogh, who had made a film critical of Islam. Mr Javed also referred to the slaughter of the Jews of Khaybar, which is recorded in the Koran.
Mr Javed told the crowd that Denmark should watch its back because “Zarqawi was coming back”, a reference to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the dead al-Qaeda leader in Iraq.
David Perry, QC, for the prosecution, said that Mr Javed appeared to be one of the leaders of the protest and used a loud-hailer to address the crowd.
“He addressed the crowd in terms which encouraged killing and incited racial hatred.”
Mr Perry said that the words used were plainly criminal. “The words used were straightforward and plain. If you shout out ‘Bomb, bomb Denmark; bomb, bomb USA’, there is no doubt about what you intend your audience to understand.
“The prosecution case is that the defendant was clearly encouraging people to commit murder — terrorist killing.”
Mr Perry told the court that the case was not about freedom of assembly or freedom of speech. He said that even a society that enjoyed freedom of speech had to have rules.
“It is not about freedom of expression, but it is not surprising there are rules against encouraging others to kill or incite racial hatred.”
Here's that video recording of the demonstration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs
If he wants to bomb so much, then I think we should load him in an airplane and use him as a bomb. Push his @$$ out the door at 60,000 feet, and see if he hits his target.
That guy has serious issues if he goes nuts like that over cartoons.
By the way, anyone know the name of the song in the beginning of the clip?
Why do the British authorities put up with these crappy demonstrations? And where's a good fire hose and shotgun full of rock salt when you need them?
Forget the rock salt, bullets will do...
XY - That video is all that needs to be said. I only watched about 1 1/2 minutes after the opening. Thats all I needed. I love these "rallies", growing up in the Northeast, you can always catch a good rally in N.Y.C. or beantown. We need to get all the idiots that subscribe to the "Loose Change 911" conspiracy to watch this. They'll probably tell ya the CIA made this video. The religion of peace would never tolerate this public display, can't you hear the imams lashing out against it?
I think it time to invent a bacon gun and the porkapult!
You, know I think Prince Charles is somewhere in the crowd!
If Prince Charles isn't in the crowd, at the very least he's cheering on the muslims who want to rape his country. What a moron.
Like i said before and i am not a violent person by any means, BUT if i saw that on the streets of my city/town , i really don't think i could restrain myself from laying a Beatingon on said Protestor. Free speech ends when you threaten me, my family and my society. that is in NO charter of rights. that IS treason!
Maybe if more people retaliated and smacked these guys in the mouth once in a While , they would not be so brazen?
I'm not going to lay down and take that!
Deport anyone who talks Publicly like that
If it wasn't for the insults hurled at Saddam in the cellphone video of his hanging we would
be hearing about how it was fake and Saddam double was used to fool people.
But because the insults can be just another excuse for Muslims to riot and kill , the video is accepted as fact , but of course all those beheading videos were faked by the CIA because beheadings are Un-Islamic .
"He said that “disbelievers” should learn from the murder of the Dutch film-maker Theo van Gogh, who had made a film critical of Islam. Mr Javed also referred to the slaughter of the Jews of Khaybar, which is recorded in the Koran".
We've learned plenty from these things. That's why we know the cult of death is anything but peaceful and aims to kill or enslave the whole world.
Well I wouldn't worry; apparently deep down Europeans are all secretly racist monsters who are just itching to start an efficient genocide against their endlessly annoying Muslim citizens.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11262006/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_eurabia_myth_opedcolumnists_ralph_peters.htm?page=0
from the article above some dreamy sentences
"When Europeans feel sufficiently provoked and threatened - a few serious terrorist attacks could do it - Europe's Muslims will be lucky just to be deported.
I have no difficulty imagining a scenario in which U.S. Navy ships are at anchor and U.S. Marines have gone ashore at Brest, Bremerhaven or Bari to guarantee the safe evacuation of Europe's Muslims. "
In the interests of Free Speech and Democracy
I wish to draw to the attention of all British
voters , that the following petition has been lodged with our government.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Banmuslimfaithuk/
Would all interested parties please sign and post the link on as many web sites , blogs , organisations that they are active in.
thanks to XY for the link.
i was also unaware that this guy was on trial. i was ashamed of the police on the day, but am pleased that they finally got themselves around to doing something.
However, i also agree that we did not need new laws to deal with such people, we just needed to enforce some old ones.
once upon a time it would have been settled with 'move along now sir, there's a good gentleman...' and if that didn't work it would have been breach of the peace, threatening words or behaviour, for starters, then refusing to give a name and address, and finally obstructing a police officer....where there is a will to arrest, there is a way.
Take his benefits away from him, and deport him to the country of his parents' birth.
Why was he singled out? What makes him different?
During Koran rage and Cartoon rage there were hundreds, if not thousands of these jihad-monkeys doing the same thing.
So this ONE little turd cops it and that's it?
Pathetic!
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/03/more-bs-from-ap-ever-seen-a-soldier-of-allah-who-was-not-tortured/