UK police hunt man who tried to rip veil off Muslim woman

This individual's behavior is without excuse. And probably it is prompted by frustration at the utter failure of British authorities to do anything effective about the spread of the jihad ideology in Britain. When I see British police pursuing the preachers of Islamic supremacism and jihad at least as energetically as they are apparently hunting for this man, I will begin to think Britain has opted definitively for survival.

AMEN Robert! Perfectly stated!

No witnesses have come forward, which seems strange in a crowded area. Did this incident actually occur? I have heard stories like this before which die a natural death.
I no longer believe these incidents of "racial hatred" ---- one more to add to the ever growing list of non-existent incidents for the MCB!

A favorite accusation of CAIR's.

The PC Pc.

Nice to see the police being so robust where racially motivated attacks are concerned...or are they? Let's take a look at another example:

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2149798.ece

Followed by this:

http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/display.var.1121865.0.0.php#comments_form

How curious. All the witnesses and the victim plus his family assert a racially motivated attack, the evidence strongly indicates such, and yet the police try to claim it wasn't. Oh hang on, muslims weren't the victims this time but just the perpetrators so I guess that makes it all different does it?

Gino:

It's more interesting to me that the only concerns seem to be about attacks on Muslims. It's been open season on religious Jews in the UK and France for some time. And, no perhaps you've read of the growing ban on wearing crosses in various venues.

Are we sure this was a woman wearing a veil? With all the stories about men robbing banks and escaping justice in those weird getups I'm beginning to think only men wear such garb.

Indeed waterdragon52 and I totally agree. All the authorities seem concerned about is placating their muslim overlords and it disgusts me.

I for one would like to know exactly how the alleged perpetrator "racially abused" this woman.

What did he say precisley?

BBC has, just a few months ago, admitted publicly that it is biased in favour of Islam.

The BBC article reports the incident as fact, even though there is no evidence--at least as reported in their own article--for anything other than an allegation. For all we know, this could have been cooked up by Muslims to deflect attention away from the recent reports on the treasonous hate-preaching imams.

There is no sign of anything to do with race that is cited in this allegation. If BBC is defining race so broadly as to include religion, or is otherwise conflating the two, then the term "race" (a fuzzy concept to begin with) loses meaning. But if BBC wishes to refer to this incident, as described, as racial, than by the same standard it would have to characterize almost everything that Muslims believe, say, and do as racist. Needless to say, BBC won't do that because they have no interest in fairness; they have already admitted to their bias in favour of Islam and Muslims.

Mother Ecclesiastica,

The Iraqis must have hung the old guy.

Nice post Omega Man.

Unbelievable really. These guys couldn't organise a shit fight in a sewer.

"This individual's behavior is without excuse. And probably it is prompted by frustration at the utter failure of British authorities to do anything effective about the spread of the jihad ideology in Britain'

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The guy trying to rip off the veil was right. A face veil has no business in any Western society. I'd rip taht veil right off.

That is the usgliest thing there ever is!

Rip that veil off!

No veil. NO veil!

These incidents are always fuzzy; it may have been perpetrated by Douggie, one of Southampton's innumerable tramps (American freinds read: bums) who had no clue what he was doing because he is permanently drunk and also insane.

However it's a prime lesson in victimology. Such things happen all the time and are nothing compared to the full-scale 'Paki bashing' carried out by white youths not so many moons ago, in which some of PC Walker's colleagues no doubt took part.
Only because of the friction caused by the veil in British society today is this making the national news, with the BBC desperate to spread the idea of muslim victimhood.

Three cheers, however, for the usually uberdhimmi Channel 4 - hopefully yesterday's Dispatches program will have shocked the usual Channel 4 clientelle into taking a fresh and unappologetic look at islam in Britain...

Strangely enough, until I saw that this incident occurred in Southampton, I thought for just a second that this was referring to just such an incident in my home city of Liverpool not so long back. A Muslim woman had her hijab pulled off and was "racially abused" by a man in the Kensington area. This would seem to be an almost carbon copy incident.

I absolutely agree with Robert's assessment of the character of the offender. I also agree that the persistent frustration of the British people may in large part be motivating the actions of like characters.

In short, the majority can only go for so long, their views and needs as a nation being marginalised and ignored, while the minority prospers at its' expense.

I've said before that angry mutterings were stirring amongst the populace and I believe that events like these are manifestations of such. Does it have to become rioting and destruction in the streets before our politicos will listen?.

This is a total non story. Why did it even make official news channels?

It's on a par with:
"Youth tells other youth to f*** off after he makes remark about girlfriend in pub".

"Man waves fist at car after motorist parps horn on zebra crossing".

"Home owner confronts neighbour over dog poo in garden".

If true, the story is upsetting, but should be taken in proportion. My immediate reaction, though, is what wimpy assailants they have that side of the pond, can't even manage to rip off a woman's veil. Story sounds a bit bogus. (I suppose that if the assailant had succeeded, the woman's nearest male relative would have been obligated to kill her to preserve the family honor....)

Anyone have any feedback re: the British response to the Channel 4 expose?

It was especially horrific witnessing the hatefest in English. We have now seen the full, unveiled face of moderate Islamic hate.
We have it here too: http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/smalltownusa.asp

As far as the supposed ripping off of the veil .. maybe it happened and maybe it didn't. Maybe he was a thug and maybe he was a hero. If someone grabbed a child from a recognizable kidnapper, the act of grabbing would not be considered noteworthy .. the heroism would be emphasized. If more people were to recognize the numbers of people being held hostage within Islam ("CRUCIFY them if they leave"!!!!) perhaps this man would be receiving medals of honor.

At any rate, it's too similar to the impossible "flushing korans down toilets" phenomena to bother devoting time to serious discussion of the 'facts'.

Karl Pov-

Reassuring to know that you have real men over there who know how to assault a woman properly, not like we half-arsed Brits eh?.

"moderate Islamic hate.
We have it here too: http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/smalltownusa.asp"

We'll I don't hear of moderates stopping the violence? They never come out in the streets to confront and stop the islamic violence? The violence is just too wide spread to say it's only radicals or the rabble.

Now, I am GOING TO MAKE A POINT OF READING LAURA MANSFIELD.
Once we allow islamics to get a toe in- they start chipping away at our hard-won right.

And what's good for the goose is good for the gander: If in Arabia and the Middl East Gulf countries - Western women MUST wear a veil - we adhere to their practice, then the islamics women MUST take off the veil when they are in the West. THAT'S IT!

Three cheers, however, for the usually uberdhimmi Channel 4 - hopefully yesterday's Dispatches program will have shocked the usual Channel 4 clientelle into taking a fresh and unappologetic look at islam in Britain...

I did not hear them characterize the imams' comments as "racist".

Did I miss it?

The local Christian churches are carping on about "all god's religions are worthy of respect etc".

That's because some pastor has bought the "we all worship the same God" line of BS.
If I hear a Christian say that, I will oppose that view in a hurry.
/making friends everywhere :)

"We will not stand for any type of racial or religious abuse and will deal with anyone who does abuse or assault people like this robustly."

Super. Then there will be some prompt prosecutions of the 'Despatches' clerics for their anti-kuffar statements (religious abuse, surely!)

Robert Spencer writes: "When I see British police pursuing the preachers of Islamic supremacism and jihad at least as energetically as they are apparently hunting for this man, I will begin to think Britain has opted definitively for survival."

Way too generous of you, Robert. I'd rather see you write:

"When I see British police pursuing the preachers of Islamic supremacism and jihad ten times more energetically as they are apparently hunting for this man, I will begin to think Britain has opted definitively for survival."

Unless you think that ripping off a veil is equivalent to blowing up trains.

See this:

http://www.snappedshot.com/archives/555-End-of-an-Empire.html

and one veiled ripped off is national news...

In Luton, we live under Islamic domination, "Dhimmitude". The most feared part of the Muslim community is the Pakistani Muslim youth, most of whom are connected to the drugs trade one way or another, either through family or friends. This part of the community holds the non-Muslim community hostage through fear and intimidation. They are highly organised, heavily funded from drug trafficking and heavily armed. Many of the key drug players drive top of the range Bentley, Mercedes, Porsche and Land Rover automobiles. They also own businesses which have been bought with the proceeds of drug dealing.

Luton's Pakistanis have access to guns, a fact well-known by the frequency of armed incidents including violent armed robbery and shootings which have occurred over the years. A known fact is that there is a large Irish community in Luton through which Luton Pakistani Muslims have bought guns, being sourced from the IRA. This is why a Luton police officer once commented to me that the Muslim quarter of Luton, Bury Park, is awash with guns. I personally know people involved in gun related incidents and other incidents of violent crime perpetrated by the Luton Pakistani Muslims. As part of the Luton community we see and hear these things happening around us perpetrated by Luton's Pakistani Muslims. We see their violent tendencies. Through the Pakistani Muslims' familiarity and passion for violence, the rest of the community live in fear of the consequences of causing them even the slightest bit of what they would deem as trouble. This situation leaves the community's non-Muslims intimidated and threatened, that is, in Dhimmitude. Thus, it seems better to stay silent in the face of such intimidation and allow their criminal drug empires to continue unchallenged than to speak up and face their wrath.

This violent and dangerous situation is reinforced by the extremist religious element of the Pakistani Muslims who openly declare Jihad and war against Britain and the West on Luton's streets. This adds to the complete picture when we look at our Muslim neighbours. So, whether they are religious Muslims openly calling for violent Jihad, Muslim criminals supplying drugs or Muslim terrorists, they are all brothers in Islam working to the same agenda of converting the UK into an Islamic state governed by Sharia Law.

Within the Muslim psyche, there are the tenets "Dar al-Islam" and "Dar al-Harb." Dar al-Islam means 'house of peace' and Dar al-Harb means 'house of war'. This psyche perceives the world split into these two camps. Islamic countries governed by Sharia law are Dar al-Islam and the non-Muslim countries not governed by Sharia law are Dar al-Harb. It is a religious obligation for every Muslim who is living in a country under Dar al-Harb to convert that country into a Dar al-Islam one. While a country is Dar al-Harb, it is meant to be in a perpetual state of war as preached by its Muslim clerics. Hence, Muslims living under Dar al-Harb view it as a war zone. As such, they are allowed to conduct themselves in a warlike manner toward non Muslims in working toward the goal of converting the country into the 'house of peace' with the imposition of Sharia Law. During times of war, rape, pillage, killing and destruction are permitted with the aim of converting the host nation into Dar al-Islam. So, within Luton the Muslim community conduct themselves exactly as Islam teaches. They have a total disregard for the laws of Britain and are actively killing and destroying their non-Muslim neighbours by supplying hard drugs, and, in the process forcing the rest of the community to live as Dhimmis through fear in the face of their intimidation.

I spoke out against against one of the Pakistani Muslim drug dealers in my neighbourhood. They found out about this and issued me with death threats. At the time of the threats I owned my own business, a computer shop. I lived in my own place and was fairly comfortable but then because of the threats and knowing that the threateners would act, I had to shut my shop and move immediately. I did this for security and self-preservation: it is better to be alive than dead no matter what the cost. I then went from having quite a stable life to being bankrupt. These changes were costly. I couldn't just go and get a job because it would have been too dangerous for me to be publicly exposed. I could have moved completely away from Luton but I did not want to run away completely from the menace. So, I took the necessary precautions and spent the next five months watching my back but still living amongst the enemy.

The Pakistani Muslims own 95% of all taxis driving around the streets of Luton. Furthermore, one cannot go anywhere without there being a Pakistani Muslim taxi nearby. I was followed on many occasions by taxis trying to intimidate me. I told this to the police and they responded by saying that the Muslim community are very resourceful in using taxis to follow people and also using them to move drugs around. Taxi drivers are the eyes and ears of the Muslim menace in Luton - they know exactly who everyone is and where everyone lives.

Attending the local college are many young Muslims from Luton. On one occasion, I had coffee with a college friend and the day after when he went to his classes several young Pakistani Muslims approached him and pointed out that they had seen him with me. I then realised I could not go anywhere without Pakistani Muslims watching me. So, in Luton I became a sitting duck, waiting for the moment when the Muslims would find me and put a knife in my side or worse. I lived under the shadow of their threats and I knew what they were capable of doing to those they despised. The final straw for me came when I practically ran out of money and became homeless. I had no way now of protecting myself or hiding properly anymore. I had a good friend who sheltered me for a little while but it wasn't working - there was no quality of life for me. Then, another good friend offered to buy me an airline ticket to get me out of the danger. I took him up on that offer and flew to Israel where I have found refuge. But still, I am penniless, homeless and the serious threats to my life back in England hang in my mind and all because I helped the police arrest a Pakistani Muslim drug dealer who is at war with my country and the Britishway of life, destroying my community and flooding it with crack cocaine and heroin.

The community and it seems the police are powerless to stop what is happening in Luton. It is a clear indication that Islam is achieving its aim of overwhelming and controlling Britain.

The fact that attempting to rip off some woman’s veil is treated as a crime akin to treason, which must be punished with a spell of hard labour and accusations of racism shows exactly where the BBC gets its moral compass.

I can imagine the BBC of old being infused by the latest left wing large pay cheque collectors during WWII:

BBC News 05/1941 – Reich Chancellor Hitler’s deputy Rudolph Hess has parachuted into Britain on a mission of mercy that he hoped would ensure peace between our great nations. The top ranking German official was reportedly held at the point of a pitchfork while suffering excruciating pain in his ankle caused during his parachute drop to safety.

Constable Plod of Eaglesham made a statement to the press after the German dignitary was saved from his captor at Floors farm, who cannot be named for legal reasons. ‘We will not tolerate the racist elements in our society taking the law into their own hands. This must stop. Mr Hess was in great pain and this threatening behaviour will not do.’

Inspector Blair assured the public in a statement made at the home of the Duke of Hamilton that such racist behaviour towards Germans will not be tolerated in Britain. ‘Just because we are at war with them does not mean we should not respect their human rights as we do our own.’ He said.

The BBC has learnt that the German official is to be held at the Tower of London were many so called traitors of the state have been held during Britain’s long and bloody history.

Amoana Ontheleft, the respected spokeswoman for Amnesty International, described the decision to detain a foreign national at the Tower of London has barbaric.

Miss Ontheleft added: ‘Mr Churchill must realise that his policies are causing great suffering to people in all the countries across Europe, including Germany. But we must point out the intolerable suffering of our Russian allies who are fighting bravely to save their farmsteads not only from right wing Germans in the military, but also from the continual supply of arms being sent from these shores to Russia that are only fuelling a conflict that can be solved if all sides would only listen.’ She added ‘The whole world will benefit if we listen to people like Rudolph Hess.’

I live in the North West and apart from one incident out side of my local pub over four years ago, the Muslim community has no claim to control this town whatsoever.

It is also likely that any attempt will be met with overwhelming force by the local lads. Trust me they don’t vote Lib Dem. Truthfully I doubt that many of them vote. But I do know that the east ward of my town is listed in the top 20% of the most deprived areas in England. That east ward incorporates the Muslim streets which are surrounded by mainly white streets.

Kind of ironic that the lads who fight the Muslim extremists on the streets are called Chavs, don’t you think?

I have just found this Hampshire Constabulary press release on the alleged veil-pulling incident. What surprises me is that the force has issued this press release so quickly, given that it usually takes a week before this particular police website is updated which just goes to show how diligent the police are in Southampton. It was revealed in the Daily Mail (London) a couple of years ago, following a tip-off from an officer, that at eleven o'clock one evening there were only eleven police officers on duty for this city of over 200,000 people. The information below can be seen at:
www.hampshire.police.uk

Press Releases #8594; Man attempts to remove woman’s veil in racist attack in Southampton
Man attempts to remove woman’s veil in racist attack in Southampton
Press ReleasesPublished: 16/01/2007

Police in Southampton are appealing for witnesses after a woman was attacked because of her race and her religious beliefs.

The 37-year-old Muslim woman was crossing East Park from Southampton Solent University on Thursday, January 11, at about 4.10pm.

She was walking towards the bus stops near to the Cenotaph on Above Bar Street when a man approached her.

He slapped her bag and then shouted racial abuse at her.

He then grabbed her by the neck and continued to racially abuse her and told her to remove her veil.

He then attempted to take it off himself but failed as she managed to push him off and walk quickly away.

The man is described as:

White
Aged in his 20s
5ft 9ins tall
Light brown/blondish hair - down to ear length
Wearing a blue long-sleeved shirt, buttoned to the front and possibly jeans
Slim build
No facial hair.
PC Leigh Walker, who is investigating, said: “There were plenty of people in the area, as it was daytime and plenty at the nearby bus stops so lots of people must have seen what happened.

"I’d very much like to hear from them.

“We need to put a stop to this kind of behaviour by someone who is ignorant to the diverse society that we live in.

“We will not stand for any type of racial or religious abuse and will deal with anyone who does abuse or assault people like this robustly.

“This attack was particularly degrading for the victim who has strong religious beliefs that don’t allow her to remove her veil in public with men around.“

Can you help?
Anyone with information is asked to contact PC Leigh Walker at Southampton Central police station on 0845 045 45 45 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111. Mini-Com users can call 01962 875000.

Mert-

"I live in the North West and apart from one incident out side of my local pub over four years ago, the Muslim community has no claim to control this town whatsoever."

If you don't mind my asking Mert, whereabouts are you in the North West?. I know that the likes of Oldham, Bolton, Blackburn, Manchester etc have some "Enclaves", but I'd be interested to know what's going on in other places in my neck of the woods.

Apparently we have about fifteen thousand Muslims here in Liverpool, but we haven't a bloody clue where they are because they seem to want very much to keep their heads down. Can't say that doesn't surprise me. Even though I say so myself, Scousers are the last people you want to try and lay the law down to on their own soil. We don't seem to take it too well, for some reason.

poetcomic,

I read your report with such dismay .. you are now a refugee from England! And you are a refugee in Israel .. which is held in contempt by the very same people (worldwide) who refuse .. steadfastly refuse .. to confront the evil which has caused you to seek refuge. What utter madness.

As an American, it's a part of my psychic structure to think of my homeland as a refuge. But how much of a refuge is it in little Ridyahs, or Cairos, or Islamabads like Deerborn, Michigan or significant swaths of the state of New Jersey etc. .. for those Americans who actually came here for refuge and the opportunity to build their lives in freedom .. and have now become surrounded by resentful 3rd world haters .. more interested in making their calls to prayer louder than (banned!) church bells than in making any meaningful contribution to our free society?

Is there a way for your story to be told in the British press (and still protect your anonymity)? I hope this latest coverage on channel 4 gives you an opening. What a complete travesty that you should have to escape your country for safety .. from those who have invaded YOUR own country. I'm sickened that we are talking about England. "Never will be slaves" - how terribly distressing.

Ick....

"Can't say that doesn't surprise me"

I should say, "Can't say that surprises me".

Daisy-

Fortunately I just posted this from anothr site (the address is at the top) I would have a hard time taking what this fellow went through.

poetcomic1,

Thanks for clearing my misimpression. I am relieved. Only hope the fellow who experienced this finds justice. It's revolting to think of someone needing to escape from free-Briton in order to find safe refuge.

I find this incident a bit dodgy. The woman was grabbed by the neck but no where can I find that she went to the hospital or a doctor. All neck injuries (even a possible injury) needs to be checked out.

ok, you daffy politicians, take note....Gun control does not work.......you ban the guns , then only the criminals will have them....It is true....

Archimedes said "The BBC article reports the incident as fact, even though there is no evidence". Good point. And you should just hear the BBC reports of the London bomber court case: every other word is "alleged". The bombers are stilled only "alleged bombers" even when there is video of them actually detonating the devices!

Paul

I thought the same myself and the trial is scheduled to take 4 months and they have pleaded not guilty!

Still - all the lawyers will make a killing even if they didnt.

"A man who racially abused a Muslim woman..."
-- from the article above

How did he "racially" abuse her?