"Uncovered meat" Sheikh: Muslims are "more entitled to Australia" than non-Muslims

Al-Hilali Update. But as ever, his words were "mistranslated" and taken out of context. Has anyone ever managed to quote this clown in context?

"Hilali in hot water again," from The Age, with thanks to all who sent this in:

Australia's controversial mufti Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali has landed himself in hot water again, this time by saying Australian Muslims are more entitled to the country than those with a convict heritage.

Prime Minister John Howard said today he expected the mufti's comments to amuse Australians, however one Muslim leader was quick to apologise for the Sheikh.

Speaking in Arabic on Egyptian television Sheikh Hilali said that white Australians arrived in the country shackled as convicts.

"We (Muslims) came as free people. We bought our own tickets. We are entitled to Australia more than they are," he said.

The mufti was on the Egyptian chat show explaining the controversy last year over his comments likening immodestly-dressed women to uncovered meat.

But according to the translation, he said the controversy was a white conspiracy aimed at terrorising Australian Muslims....

But while the convict jibes might be forgiven by some, as they are when levelled by English cricket fans, the Sheikh's comments are expected to cause outrage in some quarters - especially the claim that white Australians "are the biggest liars".

And then there was his claim that outrage over his controversial meat sermon was "a calculated conspiracy", that started with him, "in order to bring the Islamic community to its knees".

He also said "Australian law guarantees freedoms up to a crazy level", when reportedly referring to anti-Muslim courts and the harsh sentencing of a Muslim gang rapist in Sydney.

Islamic Friendship Association president Keysar Trad today criticised and defended his close friend, saying some of his comments were "ill-advised".

"I believe his intention was to indicate that we choose to be in Australia because we love Australia, because his Egyptian interviewers were asking him why he stays and puts up with the controversy here," Mr Trad said.

"He was defending Australia, but saying sometimes democracy fails, and the reaction to his comments put a lie to the democratic principle of free speech.

"But I, as a Muslim Australian, do feel the need to apologise for anyone who is offended by these comments."

Mr Trad also questioned the accuracy of the translation, saying the mufti's opponents were waiting with malicious intent to misrepresent his comments.

"It's evident by the controversy that has erupted again that there are people out there watching every comment he makes," Mr Trad said.

As well they should.

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mufti Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali should be prevented from entering Australia and sent packing to his former cesspoolstan. he cant stand Democracy,he can go to hell.

"It's evident by the controversy that has erupted again that there are people out there watching every comment he makes," Mr Trad said.

As well they should.

I guess that, like being able to really understand the Qu'ran properly requires being a native speaker of Arabic, perhaps the same holds true of Sheik Al-Hilali.

/sarcasm.

..."Prime Minister John Howard said today he expected the mufti's comments to amuse Australians,..."

It shows the white Aussies have no guts and moral fibre to throw the mufti out of the country.


Australia, ban this bastard............

What this essentially boils down to is that every square inch of habitable land on the face of the earth belongs to the Muslim, and to hell with the rest.

As StillFedUp correctly states, they are slaves, and need to be treated as such. They are have freely accepted their slavery in the name of their so-called "prophet" to crawl and scrape their existence for "Allah." Not only that, but they demand that all of humanity to dig THEIR wastepits, and for us to wallow in them.

The Muslim demands and demands, complains and complains, produces nothing significant in the ways of the furtherence of mankind, and then declares their superiority over all of creation. They must be put in their place as the biggest pain-in-the-@ss there has ever been.

"Speaking in Arabic on Egyptian television Sheikh Hilali said that white Australians arrived in the country shackled as convicts."

In contrast, Islam was spread by the sword. Free, unconvicted Muslims were not in shackles, but they put others in shackles before slaughtering, enslaving, subjugating, plundering, banishing, or raping them.

Ishaq:315 "It was so criminal, men could hardly imagine it. Muhammad was ennobled because of the bloody fighting. I swear we shall never lack soldiers, nor army leaders. Driving before us infidels until we subdue them with a halter above their noses and a branding iron. We will drive them to the ends of the earth. We will pursue them on horse and on foot. We will never deviate from fighting in our cause. We will bring upon the infidels the fate of the Ad and Jurhum. Any people that disobey Muhammad will pay for it. If you do not surrender to Islam, then you will live to regret it."

Ishaq:510 “When the Apostle looked down on Khaybar he told his Companions, and what into error they throw, and Lord of the winds and what they winnow, we ask Thee for the booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.’ He used to say this of every town he raided.”

Ishaq:587 “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace.”


The learned mufti Hilali thinks Muslims deserve Australia, or any other part of the earth, more than the non-Muslims. Muhammad decreed that the whole earth belongs to Allah.

Qaradawi, the popular and influential Muslim scholar, writes:

"1. In his Sahih, Imam Muslim recorded that Thawban quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings upon him) as saying: “Almighty Allah has gathered the earth for me so that I could see all its corners. My nation will rule over all that which Almighty Allah has gathered for me.”

2. Ibn Hibban quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying: “This matter (i.e. Islam) will spread to cover all areas where there is night and day. Allah will never leave a house in a rural area or in urban community without its people being Muslims. Honor is for those who embrace it (i.e. Islam) while disbelievers are doomed to disgrace and humiliation.”


This hadith, along with many others, give us glad tidings that the patch of the Muslim state will expand to cover the whole earth and that the strength of this state will grow and become obvious to all. This also denotes good news for the long-cherished hope of revival of Muslims’ unity and rebirth of Islamic Caliphate."

In discussing the rapes of non-Muslim Australian women, Hilali manages to slip in a shot at the Christians and Jews (he cites the Koran, 98:6, 8:55, etc., for the “worst in God’s creation” remark. No possibility of translation error there, unless all the Korans have been mistranslated too):

Hilali: “Those atheists, people of the book (Christians and Jews), where will they end up? In Surfers Paradise? On the Gold Coast? Where will they end up? In hell and not part-time, for eternity. They are the worst in God’s creation.”
“When it comes to adultery, it’s 90 percent the woman’s responsibility. Why? Because a woman owns the weapon of seduction. It’s she who takes off her clothes, shortens them, flirts, puts on make-up and powder and takes to the streets, God protect us, dallying. It’s she who shortens, raises and lowers. Then, it’s a look, a smile, a conversation, a greeting, a talk, a date, a meeting, a crime, then Long Bay jail. Then you get a judge, who has no mercy, and he gives you 65 years.”


The Koran permits Muslim men to take non-Muslim female slaves and captives and entitles them to have sex with them (23:5-6, 33:50-52, 4:24, 70:30).

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3371 (3371-3388):
”Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): O Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.”

http://www.islam-watch.org/Shabana/TruthAboutIslam3.htm
"Muhammad said, "You see, God will soon make you inherit their land, their treasures and make you sleep with their women". Ibn Hisham, page 182 Vol. II, of his famous book, "Al Rod Al Anf"."

‘Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.’
http://www.ccel.org/g/gibbon/decline/volume2/chap56.htm
"It was the amusement of the Saracens to profane, as well as to pillage, the monasteries and churches. At the siege of Salerno, a Mussulman chief spread his couch on the communion-table, and on that altar sacrificed each night the virginity of a Christian nun. As he wrestled with a reluctant maid, a beam in the roof was accidentally or dexterously thrown down on his head; and the death of the lustful emir was imputed to the wrath of Christ, which was at length awakened to the defence of his faithful spouse. (10) A.D. 874"

Muslim rapists in Australia. http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002682.html

All this has done is confirm to me that there should be no more islamic migration to Australia and those that are here should be sent back to thier country of origin.Those born here should be put in a camp in the middle of the South Australian desert and kept there.
Cobber.

I hope the authorities are listening to every word he utters and looking into all of his financial transactions as well. People who think they deserve more than others will usually leave a trail of damage behind them. Australia needs to use some of it to rid itself of the mufti.

""I believe his intention was to indicate that we choose to be in Australia because we love Australia, because his Egyptian interviewers were asking him why he stays and puts up with the controversy here," Mr Trad said."


......I believ his intention was just as he stated it......

Their arrogance is disgusting.

"Prime Minister John Howard said today he expected the mufti's comments to amuse Australians"

- from the article

Lots of people laughed at Mohammed(roast pork and crackling upon him) too...until he had them all slaughtered.
It is disappointing to see so many Australians oblivious to the danger of creeping Islam, including apparently Prime Minister John Howard.
People need to be outraged not amused.

Things will just get worse until the evil cult Islam is exposed and closed down.

To paraphrase a quote from a Somalian blogger I saw a few weeks ago :

When in a minority Muslims are like lambs.
Equal in number Muslims are like foxes.
When in the majority Muslims are like wolves.

''Speaking in Arabic on Egyptian television Sheikh Hilali said that white Australians arrived in the country shackled as convicts.''

wrong! wrong! wrong!

Most Eurpean Australians came later when it wasnt a prison land anymore!

Australia should have stucked with its pre-70's anti immigration laws.

The native people are the only ones "entitled" to a land, if a second language or religion is to be forced by the government, it should be that of those who were there first. (Yes, I'm politically incorrect in SO many ways!).

We bought our own tickets.

The question is how did they get the money

He is Muslim...so just like Mohammed it's alright to lie, cheat, steal,pillage, plunder,and like Mohammed he has not done an honest days work,unlike those convicts and their offspring who toiled to make Australia what it is today.

Penal transportation was the deporting of convicted criminals to a penal colony, such as in Australia, typically from countries such as the United Kingdom (then including Ireland).

A sentence of transportation could apply for life or for a specific period of time. The penal system required the convicts to work, either on government projects (road construction, building works, mining, etc) or assigned to free individuals as a source of unpaid labour. Women were expected to work as domestic servants and farm labourers.

1)Somebody needs to wire this idiot's mouth shut-he has to be the most absurd Islamaniac loudmouth this side of Iran's supreme simian.

2)If we follow Meat Man's logic then perhaps the West can lay a claim for much of the Middle East.
Unlike the Muslims, who contribute nothing but trouble to Australia the West did something useful in the ME-it found oil there. Had that not happened ALL those idiots who currently inhabit that area would be busy being intimate with camels and goats and whatnot and live even worse than they currently do.

"We bought our own tickets."
What tickets and with what money?
Muslims got here paid with money from their own governments to send them anywhere else as their own homelands did not want them anymore.

Who do they think they are crappin'?

Muslims are the biggest exploiters of welfare abuse and ID thieves in every nation they immmigrate.

AUSTRALIA WAS BUILT BY EUROPEANS FOR THE PAST 2OO YEARS THAT IS WHY IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL, RICH, AND ADVANCED AS WE SEE TODAY.

LOOK AT THE NATIONS THAT MUSLIMS LEAVE AND YOU WILL SEE THOSE PEOPLE CAN ONLY RUIN AND NOT CREATE OR BUILD.

"Hilaly is stuck in Egypt cos Saudi Arabia refused to let him seek refuge there...."


......a jihadist who cannot spread hate and death among the infidels is of no use to Islam...

I see. It's all clear now.

When Hilali said,"We are entitled to Australia more than they [white Aussies] are" and white Australians "are the biggest liars", what he really meant was "I love Australia".

And when he said "Australian law guarantees freedoms up to a crazy level", he meant "sometimes democracy fails".

I shall bear this in mind. In future, if I see a Muslim protestor holding up a placard saying "Behead those who insult Islam', I shall interpret this as meaning "Hug those who insult Islam".

Oooh, I can feel the love.

Braying jackasses like this guy are unwitting allies in the war against jihad. His ignorant agenda is so blatantly obvious that not even western academics and clerics will be able to say, "what he really means is...."

Hilali's stupid words are an insult to all white Australians and I would think Mr Howard should have stronger reaction than being pusillanimously amused, and Mr Trad’s defense is mind- insultingly lame.

So Hilali thinks he’s more entitled to Australia because he bought a ticket. And why do such third world muslims want to come to Australia? Because the white Australians who settled there and their descendents made that continent it into such a desirable place to be, but Hilali thinks he deserves it more because he bought a ticket! Just move over you lowly descendants of shackled criminals and make welcome room for the third world ticket buyers who spit in your face!

Such hateful zombies for Allah like Hilali should not be allowed back. All Muslim immigration should be just stopped – it’s just stupid to allow a people in whose god commands them to regard you as the “lowest of creatures” (Koran 98:6) and to subjugate you if they can.

Hilaly came to Australia as an illegal immigrant. Any logic that suggests he has any right to be here at all escapes me.

He also said "Australian law guarantees freedoms up to a crazy level",

Which is a typical statement from a "moral absolutist".. how can any conservative object to this epitomy of moral absolutism..NR editors take note here.

/sarcasm off

"We (Muslims) came here as free people. We bought our own tickets. We are entitled to Australia more than they are.", he said.

A) Who were the primary financiers and what was the airline of choice for this "free" muslim immigration he speaks of? Why would muslims be in a panic to leave their countries to live in the land of those dirty Kafir?

B) Not all Australian citizens are descended from notorious criminals. Those who may be, have for the most part, made the best of a new life, built on the premise of individual freedom,which has more than compensated for the shortcomings of their ancestors.

(BTW seen any perfect men walking around lately?)

C) Sounds like their itching for a fight. A fight for the land and soul of the nation itself. That's how invaders,(even those who practice deception while weak),always behave. Sooner or later, a nail which stands up shall be thrust down. Let's just not wait another 20 years to do it everwhere worldwide.

Soon guys like this will be running the "show" in European governments when the growing Muslim populace gets a simple voter majority. Oh gotta LOVE THE WESTS SUICIDAL IMMIGRATION POLICIES.

It's somewhat ironic for a nation built upon many convicts in the late 1700's and early 1800's, that Australia has become quite a rich, free and desirable country. Not sure how all the Arab countries were founded, but i'm not sure for example Egypt, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan are now shining examples of places people would migrate to. Sheik Hilaly is a bit of a joke, i think most people here just think he's a total drongo and accordingly treat any crud coming out of his mouth with the same disdain.

I have always been a Labor supporter, though the fact that Hilaly remained in Australia under Keating's watch is a sad case.

"We (Muslims) came as free people. We bought our own tickets."

Tell that to the ancestors of everyone who was forced to convert to Islam on pain of death. Odds are that the bulk of "free" Muslims throughout history would never have converted but for Mohammad's edict to "slay the unbeliever".

Nothing done at the point of a sword is free.

The people of Islam are slaves and they don't even realize it. It's pathetic.

This man is an idiot which is appropriate as he leads an idiotic community.

The Muslim community in Australia massively underachieves. They take up public housing - meant, as in the past, for each passing wave of hopeful immgrants - and they stay there. Needless to say they're avid users of the welfare state. Because of their lack of education the only jobs they aspire to are unskilled like cab-driving. All this sound familiar to those elsewhere?

We shouldn't drown out what the likes of the Sheikh have to say, he's merely expressing the views of his community. This is what they really think about us. We should record what is said. People, let's ensure rigourously accurate translations! Let them speak for themselves. No need for editorialising. You could fill the pages of jihadwatch with direct quotes of Muslims making an ass of themselves.

Same old same old from both Hilali and his islamst mate Trad.As an Australian Aboriginal who's daughter was gang raped in 2000(Bankstown) by the Skaff gangs lets not forget 14 of those lowlives against just my daughter and six were not prosecuted).
So Hilali am I a CONVICT?
Also Paul Keating what the *#ck have you got to say?The dirty vote WHORE that you are to allow this virmin to stay in this country!!!!!!
We will see the usuall rants of misinterpretation and so forth but I have had enough of this SWINE.
Could you imagine the hoopla if an Australian said this?
Also all of the muslim community support this creature as shown after the last comments he made.They all..YES,ALL... stood behind him after he called our women "meat".
So the muslim community in this country can go to hell.
FU to the muslims...
AND GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU BUNCH OF INGRATES

Trad is a disgusting liar.

The first and last time I found his website he actually said that muslims were better than Aussies because Aussies were descended from convicts so therefore all muslims are superior,,,or words to that effect.

So Trad in fact says the same, and gets up yet again to defend the meat mufti.
How on earth could he be misinterpreted this time? I saw him on the news: he, the mufti, spoke seriously and with conviction. There was no room for error.

D.T. I am so sorry your daughter had to endure this disgusting incident and thanks for sharing.
(Have you ever thought of going on the news shows?)

Mother: where is the rallying point in Melbourne?

MP Bronwyn Bishop wants him to change his opinion or leave the country.
Personally I think he should be prevented from returning.

You can vote on this meat mufti issue here:

http://www.skynews.com.au/story.asp?id=149111

"Speaking in Arabic on Egyptian television Sheikh Hilali said that white Australians arrived in the country shackled as convicts.

"We (Muslims) came as free people. We bought our own tickets. We are entitled to Australia more than they are," he said."

Black Americans should pay attention to this because with this same line of so-called reasoning, they could be informed that Muslims who bought tickets are more entitled to America than they are. (Because their ancestors came here shackled as slaves)

That is what I meant by my original (deleted) post.
Sorry I didn't make myself clear.

"Black Americans should pay attention to this because with this same line of so-called reasoning, they could be informed that Muslims who bought tickets are more entitled to America than they are. (Because their ancestors came here shackled as slaves)

That is what I meant by my original (deleted) post.
Sorry I didn't make myself clear.

Posted by: freedomschool "


And African Americans should also be paying attention to the fact that their ancestors were sold as slaves most probably by muslim slave traders!
And now so many of them have converted to islam - I must be missing something.

I am actually really glad this idiot spouted this nonsense. It has made it easier for me to demonstrate what a crap fascist ideology Islam is to the people I talk to about it.

The sober ones, that is.

I would love to see the poster above (D.T.), debate Sheik Hell-aly.

Hey this is the sky news poll thus far:


"Do the Mufti's comments represent the views of Aust muslims?"
Yes 77%
No 23%

I guess I should assume its only Muslims voting on that one eh?

"My goodness these perfidious infidels descendants of murderers are monitoring my private discussions with the Egyptian brotherhood. Send for Keysar immediately!”

“I’m sorry Grand Mufti, he’s busy laying the taqiya on the kaffir at the SBS and the ABC, our good freinds and allies as you know”
“Well Send for Paul Keating. after all it was I who helped him win that election. Time for payback!”
“BUt he is a descendant of hardened criminals apes and a breeder of pigs, almost as bad as being a Jew! and don’t forget it was him who sent that policeman to persecute you for driving a car without tax,Insurance or a driving licencs “

“ Blessed Muslims should not abide by the laws of the accursed kafir descendants of murderers and thiefs! I know the answer! Send for the father of David Hicks, he’ll save us. He’s managed to squeeze hundreds of thousands out of the kafir government to help his mujahadeedn son “
“Yes and everyone in Australia now believes he’s a home grown country boy, they’ve even managed to make his true name, the name he loves to use, vanish from public view!”
“What’s that?”
“Muhammad Dawood”

“Sack Keysar trad and send for him now! we need him. the man is a genius- a true Goebbels! ”

chevalier de st george

Good one!!

More comments here in the MSM

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/comments/0,22023,21047925-662,00.html

All you Australians shouldn't feel too upset about this idiot's comments-even if every single one of you were indeed descended from convicts I'd be happy to live among you. I'd prefer that than living among supposedly honest and superior Muslims anytime-at least I'd be among some real people. One Australian's worth more than all of Mr. Perfect's minions-always have been, always will be.

Those sick Muslim rapists, with the support of their imams of course, view those "uncovered" Austrailian girls the same way they do the West --something to be screwed. Nothing more and nothing less. But do keep respecting their religion Aussies. Wont you?

Hello all,
Full video and print round up of the latest Hilali "He must have been taken out of context " incident can be found here.

http://aussie_news_views.typepad.com/aussie_news_views/2007/01/sheik_taj_aldin.html

and here

http://aussie_news_views.typepad.com/aussie_news_views/2007/01/terror_australi_1.html

As well as some of Mr Trads writings from the past on what he really thinks of us.. dont hold back Keysar and he doesn't.

Yours faithfully,
Aussie.

Aussie News
If you come back to see this,,I would like to thank you for posting these 2 links. They were really great.

I hope Sheikh Al-Hilali does come back to Oz, he's the best advertisement for the ant-jihad cause in Australia. I'd rather put up with this buffoon's regular foot-in-mouth pronouncements than listen to some silver tongued taqiyya merchant.

I almost feel sorry for Keysar Trad. So much work to be done to cover for Al-Hilali. I hope the Federal Government recognises his efforts and increases his Sickness Benefit payments, surely he's entitled to an increase in jizyah?

Dear Gramfan,
Thanks for that,I appreciate your kind remarks.
More on these grubs here
http://aussie_news_views.typepad.com/aussie_news_views/2007/01/terror_australi_2.html

and here
http://aussie_news_views.typepad.com/aussie_news_views/2007/01/preserving_the_.html

Yours faithfully,
Aussie.







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