Nothing can be done, says the EU. From the Jerusalem Post, with thanks to all who sent this in:
An internal European Union document has concluded that there will be no way to prevent Iran from enriching enough weapons-grade uranium to develop a nuclear bomb, the British newspaper The Financial Times reported Tuesday.According to the report, the document states that the Iranian nuclear program has not been affected by diplomatic pressure, and has only been delayed due to technical limitations.
"At some stage we must expect that Iran will acquire the capacity to enrich uranium on the scale required for a weapons program," the Times quoted the document as saying, warning that "the problems with Iran will not be resolved through economic sanctions alone."
The document was dated February 7, and was reportedly circulated to the EU's 27 national governments ahead of a foreign ministers meeting Monday.
It should read Nothing will be done by the E.U. to stop Irans nuke seeking.
No Way? No way at all? Hmmm, they havent heard of cruise missiles? F-16s? Seems not...
Well those hopeless twats in that meeting have the fate of millions of Europeans in their hands. So I guess they will go down in history before the Islamics re-write it of course as those that did nothing while the EU burnt.
But seriously, the general population is stirring in Europe, so they better get a move on before matters are taken out of their hands.
If they want Nukes so bad lets send them Nukes. Satisfaction guarenteed, delivery in 30 minutes or less.
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The EU elite want an Iranian nuclear bomb if only subconsciously. Because somewhere within they crave to be dominated by Islam. This how these EU atheists get the religion they deny
Ground invasion of Iran now. This might cost about 350 killed. A missile strike can't get everything or remove what exists and is hidden already.
If we do a missile strike, then they can buy more anti-ship Sunburn missiles from Russia, even if we hit the ones they have deployed. Thus they can hit us back in the Persian Gulf.
If we do a missile strike, we have to keep troops in Iraq in case they attack. They will attack when the extra troops leave or support insurgency then.
We would have to blockade them to keep them getting Russian anti-ship missiles. But they can bring the missiles in by land or air and use them on the ships blockading them. So we can't blockade them, so they can bring them in by sea.
When they attack us at a time of their choosing we lose more killed than if we attack them. We lost 3000 killed on 9-11, an attack at a time of their choosing. We lose 241 killed at Marine Barracks in Lebanon, an attack at a time and place of their choosing. The insurgents attack us in Iraq, at a time and place of their choosing. We lose under 200 in the ground combat phase in Iraq and almost 3000 since then.
The only solution that makes sense is a ground invasion of Iran.
re Thomas Holsinger on “The Case for Invading Iran”
We should attack and invade Iran, then pull out having dismantled their nuclear capability, destroyed their munitions factories and killed or captured their scientists and any senior government leader..., I think the Iranian people will do the rest.
Old Atlantic writes:
"Ground invasion of Iran now. This might cost about 350 killed. A missile strike can't get everything or remove what exists and is hidden already."
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If Iran
wants nukes, we should oblige and give them nukes.
By my reckoning, 25-40 should be enough. No need to
destroy hardened underground silos. Ports, oil
fields, and other parts of their infrastructure
should be sufficient.
The EU's hopes and dreams will be realized.
They hoped against hope that Iran will develop nuclear weapons; and frankly, they have.
The EU lusted for an islamic empire in the heart of Europe and through its perverse fornication made Kosovo a prostitute that will give birth to the bastard child of their dreams and their islamic empire will come to life.
The EU's arrogance will bring death and destruction to them -- and they deserve it!
You would not expect anything else from this shower of corrupt "snouts in the trough" crooks.
Nothing can be done to stop Iran ?
Is that so?.....my concience would be clear,
give me the buttons to press.....easy,simple.
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Done !
I wonder if all those, including of course Wolfowitz and Feith, who are not unintelligent but who were ignorant of so much (just look at how Wolfowitz allowed himself to believe what plausible Shi'a in exile, and also his female Arab great and good friend, assured him about Islam), who thought they were doing the right thing in going into Iraq had any idea that unless the Americans pulled out just as soon as the regime was completely disrupted and the country scoured for weaponry (and both tasks were completed by the first few months of 2004), inevitably Tarbaby Iraq would keep them stuck, while the Islamic Republic of Iran inexorably continued on its nuclear project.
But the predcition that there is "nothing that can be done" is false or rather self-fulfilling. Out of Iraq now, not in order to go into Iran, but in order to destroy, from the skies (no invasion necessary or desirable) as much of that program as possible. And if booster shots are required, give those booster shots as needed.
I heard an interview from Bush and got nothing from it.
Posted by: s_sgt7 at February 13, 2007 10:32 AM
.... what did you expect from this wahhabi puppet?The phony 'war on terror' is as fake as the pathetic WMD excuse to invade Iraq, while Al-Qaeda, the Saudi organization, is thriving in Pakistan. Both (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) are dubya's phony allies in the phony 'war on terror'.
As his record proves, deception is all you can expect from dubya.
Nice report from the EU. Why the hell didn't they do something to stop it before it was too late? Noooo- that would have meant being in the same camp as the evil Americans. When will the EU insist the US do something once the Iranians target them with nuclear missiles? That should prove interesting.
I say hit the hard targets. Wait till the dust clears and hit them again as required. Or use a Mk-53
Mk-53
Yield: 9 Mt
Fusing: Retarded Airburst, and Contact Laydown.
Number Produced: 350
Weight: 8,850-8,900 lbs.
Dimensions: 50" x 150"
The Mark 53 was carried by B-47, B-52; and B-58 bombers. Two models were produced between August 1962 and June 1965, "clean" and "dirty." The Y2 "clean" fissile material was all HEU, no plutonium. Three parachutes. SAC began retiring the early models in July 1967, but they remained in permanent stockpile until early 1997. 50 are still in stockpiles.
http://www.strategic-air-command.com/weapons/images/mark53nuclearbomb.jpg
It's a middle finger in the face of any "hardened" structure. Or should be say concrete renforced tomb. Nothing like being buried alive!
ick
And this is the result of 3 1/2 years of DIPLOMACY that the Left says we must play by.
Diplomacy should be considered before even coming to the table. If the one on the other side has no reason to comply with an agreement reached through diplomacy then don't come to the table in the first place.
"An internal European Union document has concluded that there will be no way to prevent Iran from enriching enough weapons-grade uranium to develop a nuclear bomb"
....First Strike......the above statement is the language of the appeaser, the timid, and the dhimmi.....
The EU has done plenty about this already in the form of helping Iran buy time while they build centrifuges. Who knows but that some well-placed persons haven't been accepting the Iranian equivalent of oil vouchers a la Saddam to keep the game going?
Given that Iran has't done squat to build the infrastructure to actually convert nuclear fuels into electrical power, the whole thing is an enormous, deadly crock.
Wake up folks.
The bunch of wankers at the EU can do nothing because CHINA and RUSSIA do not want them to do anything. Basically, it's a chess game - the West vs Russia/China for control of the ME.
It's apparent, even though they have not said it, that should the West try do do anything against Iran (remember Russia recently insisted that sanctions NOT include military action - and let's not be stupid about who sits on the Security Council) - the West would basically be caught up in a serious war (even if only by proxy) against China/Russia. China/Russia simply have too many big investments in the ME and they also do not want us to have control of the oil.
The EU, the UN and ESPECIALLY the Security Council, are all worthless when it comes to world peace.
As I've said before (even though some of you have accused me of being a conspiracy theorist), it's ALWAYS about money. Uncover the political rubbish and the naked truth is that wars are fought for gain.
That said, the only way Iran will be stopped is if Israel bombs them.....and if we are PROVED to have supported Israel in a military action against Iran (catching is before hanging), then all hell will break loose with Russia/China.
What are we going to do about this? I heard an interview from Bush and got nothing from it. Basically, we will be doing nothing. What I think should be done - the countries closer to Iran should be worried - and that goes for countries like Saudi Arabia (sunnis), Russia, Europe, India, etc. - Posted by: s_sgt7 at February 13, 2007 10:32 AM
Well there is apparently a plan that Israel will attack Iran when the time is right.
Saudies are happy because it gives them an excuse to develop their own Bomb. There are already talks about Arabs making a joint effort to develop WMD.
Russia is actually helping them. Europe doesn't want to interfere, as I read between the lines. There is no European country that is actively supporting us.
India doesn't have the balls to attack them. They couldn't stop crippled Pakies building one on their own door steps.
etc. probably fits into one of the above categories.
If any country will stop them it will be Israel. I believe they'll figure that Arabs hate them no matter what; Iranians hate them no matter what; UN is an ass. They have to survive. The only way they will survive in that heat is if they hit Iran, I mean extremely hard that Iran will suffer something serious.
Then you will see the gas prices rocketing up through the roof. We will pay the price for the stuff whether we like it or not.
Off topic:
Wilders: Muslims Should Tear Up Half The Koran
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What? We might have to (GOSH!) attack Iranian nuclear facilities instead of negotiate with Islamic terrorist exporters, liars and scum?
Say it isn't so. I want to go back and hug my pet bunny and hide from the obvious some more....
My apologies for the bogus "Related" link. My mistake while posting.
Robert
Should have called this 1938 alert. Most of Europe at the time thought Hitler could not be stopped either.
Should have called this 1938 alert. Most of Europe at the time thought Hitler could not be stopped either.
More like August 25th, 1939 alert. This was the date when Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union signed their heinous non-aggression pact, which condemned Poland to destruction and partition between its oldest enemies, and secured Hitler's Eastern Front. Today, Iran has effectively got its non-aggression pact with Russia.
Iraq closes borders in security crackdown
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200702/s1847125.htm
It's about frickin time!
l wonder what the EU would say when iran holds them hostage, and or bombs European cities? will the wussy Eurowiennies still roll over? as much as they despise Israel, they depend on the Joos to bomb iran's nukes.
will the wussy Eurowiennies still roll over? as much as they despise Israel, they depend on the Joos to bomb iran's nukes.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
Just look at Paris, France. That will tell you exactly how they continue to 'roll over'.
I think it will take the courage of the only nation prepared to deal with the Iranian nutter - Israel.
Unstoppable? That is ridiculous! Of course, in can be stopped! We have the men, weapons, and delivery systems. All that is needed now is the will. That is something that the Euroweenies are, not surprisingly, sorely lacking (well, along with their manhood, a reason for living, a useful function in the world, etc.). That being the case, it will be up to America, Israel, Great Britain, and Australia to take out Iran. We have the means - the men, armaments, delivery systems, and intelligence info. We all know that we could reduce Iran to a smouldering ruin in less than an hour. The worst enemy we face is not in Iran. It is in the West in the form of the depraved leftists and liberals hell bent on the destruction of their own lands and themselves.
The lives of you and your family and the survival of America and our freedoms........
or
the continuation of the cult of islam, iran and other nations......
the choice is yours.............
I choose freedom.............
turn the middle east into glass..........
I will pay $5.00 a gallon or more for gas.......my family our freedoms and America are far more valuable than everything that the cult of islam has to offer.......
war is being waged on the America and Western civilization by the cult of islam and our governments are not fighting back......
prepare be armed be ready.........
The Texican.
God Family America and Freedom the only choice at any cost.
E.U and U.N. = WORTHLESS!!!!
For this we have Vladimir Putin to thank.
The Europeans have already become effectively Islamotized. Their parents' generation was rescued from Nazi-Fascism by the USA and now these ungrateful bastards are more than happy to appease the New Nazi in Tehran.
Not to worry, Hillory said she would end it if elected.
Xero G, thanks for that, so as a Brit my people did not fight the Nazi's, did we just roll over and die, I do not think so and I do seem to remember that we successfuly beat off the Nazi's before you joined the war.
The political class of Europe is Islamic, but not the majority of the people, up until the scum out breed us of course...
But it is happening in the USA isn't it, school kids doing the 5 pillars and all that, I know you may be bitter but one of the things I admire about America is that it DOES THE RIGHT THING, got it, so try not to belittle your great country with such defeatist whining blame filled crap! My government has betrayed me, do we deserve to have our throats cut etc. because of that? What am I guilty of, being governed by a bunch of incompetent money grabbing socialist traitors, great isn't it...
Daffersd, I forgot to consider the UK is also "European". I always think of UK as separate from continental Europe. My condolences go out to you and your fellow Brits who did indeed fight the Nazi threat...long after the other Euro-states rolled over (France, Spain, Belgium, Italy, etc.) and you Brits (NOT "Europe" per se) are certainly our biggest allies now against the Jihadists. But it's inaccurate to label my previous comments as "defeatist, whining, blame filled crap". .. as I only brought attention to the situation today in the EU. The real defeatist crap is the subject of this thread...the Euro-report that Iran's nuclear program is "unstoppable"; that is the pinacle of defeatism, and I join you to wanting to oust the socialist traitors among your Euro-neighbors.
Xero G now your talking, but I am a Brit living in France and I can tell you that quite a high percentage feel the same way as me.
It would be a huge defeat to leave Europe to Islam, yes there are many Europeans who do not deserve one drop of American blood shed on their behalf especially those scum called our leaders.
But note that the idiots were given this one truth:
"the problems with Iran will not be resolved through economic sanctions alone."
Which means that they should do something stronger, the French aircraft carrier is on its way to the Gulf. They are still idiotic cowards, but even idiotic cowards get it right sometimes, I hope...
Time to tie everything together:
Talking Turkey about Al Sadr, Iraq, Iran and the Nuclear Threat
The idea that anything created or initiated by humans is unstoppable is plain wrong.
Nothing people do is permanent or inevitable - give me a break.
It's a matter of will, not destiny. The EU confuses 'a test of wills' with 'a matter of inevitability'
I think we should help subvert the Mullah Theocracy... and we may actually be doing that as we post these messges.
Please check this story out in Foxnews:
Car Bombing in Iran Kills 11, Wounds 31 Elite Revolutionary Guards
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,251843,00.html
I am NOT in favour of violence to reduce resources to the United States
I am NOT in favour of violence to reduce resource supplies to the United States.
However, using other means I do want to reduce supplies to the United States because they are abusing the power and advantage that these world resources give them.
Resource reduction to the United States must be done without blowing things up.
Instead we simply state what our price is and if the United States chooses not to pay then we are free sell to someone else. Even if that someone else pays a lower price the United States must pay a premium because they have proven themselves to be not responsible enough to use the resources wisely.
Call it an "idiot tax" applicable to Americans and American entities until they, as a whole, have proven their worth on the planet and they help all people and harm none.
I am in favour of selling them only what they need for basic survival in their own land until they are mature enough not to invade other countries.
The American people must be required to pay high for the resources the world has in order to prohibit their ability to create war and cause harm outside of current American territories.
The American territories do not include Canada, Mexico, Iraq or any other country outside of the current physical borders of the United States.
The United States must buy energy and other resources at such a high price that they can not afford the luxury of war nor of harming others.
The United States is not needed by any one in the world to defend them or feed them. On the contrary, the world, as a whole, must defend itself from the United States.
If the United States offers to purchase at prices we are willing to sell to them for then that is OK. But if the United States tries to take by force what is not theirs then all the peoples of the world must arise as one and prevent such theft.