Pakistan: More polio cases if resistance continues; Islamic clerics say those who die of polio are 'martyrs'

And how many in Iran will die using their "miracle" AIDS cure herbal brew instead of expensive AIDS drugs?

"The clerics, including Tehreek Nifaz Shariat-e-Muhammadi (TNSM) leader Maulana Fazlullah and his supporters in the Malakand Agency, have been ‘warning’ people during sermons in mosques or through illegal FM radio stations not to administer polio drops to their children since it was against religious norms and brought infertility. Maulana Fazlullah is the son-in-law of Maulana Sufi Muhammad, ex-chief of the TNSM."

....Muslim cleric continue to manifest their 7th century ignorance....polio drops are a simple and safe way to cure a terrible disease....millions of women have had both the polio drops and delivered children....

.....Muslims are so ignorant sometimes...

If these idiots want to be THAT stupid, let them.
A paralyzed jihadist won't get very far.

Perhaps a rumor should be started that the evil Jews invented polio as a biological weapon against the ummah just to blow their minds. Then they'll have to decide-get the "Zionist disease" or get the "poisoned" shot.

The US and all Western countries should ban all travel to their countries by anyone born in Pakistan who cannot conclusively prove they have been vaccinated against polio and don't carry it.
A simple blood test should suffice on both counts.

If these idiots want to be THAT stupid, let them.
A paralyzed jihadist won't get very far.

Islamsforlosers,

Maybe not, but they'll cost all of us taxpayers a lot of money in medical care. Even if they never leave their village we taxpayers will bear the cost, whether it's through some UN children's fund or dirct aid to Pakistan. We'll be expected to ante up.

Isn't there some way to just put the drops in their water supply?

Musims should be banned from entering western countries..period...

That's excellent news, and should inspire the CIA to start rumors that ALL Western medicines are "poisoned by the Jews".

Better break out the iron lungs.

More business for American companies.

PMK-

You're probably right. Time to quit wasting money on these cesspoolians. Let the overly wealthy Saudis pony up for their poorer "brothers". Maybe then they'll have less money to build more Wahabbi mosques all over the world. Even then it's our money, since we overpay for their damned oil anyway.

I am all for putting their health in the hands of allah. they can then, drop like flies.

Pretty soon two things are going to happen:

1. Everything that doesn't reference a verse of the Koran will be considered "un-Islamic."

2. All Muslims who die, just by virtue of being Muslim, regardless of the reason for their death, will be considered martyrs.

Since when the the definition of martyr change from a defensive term to an offensive one? Throughout human history martyrs were killed by their opponents, they didn't take their own lives to murder others.

But I guess with everything else, Islam's turning that on its head too. What a gutter faith.

Dirka, dirka, mohammed, jihad, sherpa, sherpa, balakva.

Allahu ackbahr.

sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 82:

“Five are martyrs: The one who dies of plague, the one who dies of an abdominal disease, the one who dies of drowning, the one who is buried alive and dies, and the one who is killed in the cause of Allah.”

Allah ta'alla knows best - since it doesn't make sense to the rest... or the West. The Quest is the quest. Four out of five dentists recommend Crest.

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 83:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet said, "Plauge is the cause of martyrdom of every Muslim (who dies because of it)."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 80i:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "Allah welcomes two men with a smile; one of whom kills the other and both of them enter Paradise. One fights in Allah's Cause and gets killed. Later on Allah forgives the 'killer who also get martyred (In Allah's Cause)."

Killers get to heaven if they later kill in the name of Allah's cause. How generous of Allah.

We need to be working on a bird flu vacine that is swine-based.

I just hope our government is not letting people travel here who are not immunized. Does anyone know about this?

What about people from Pakistan (and Nigeria) who go to England and then travel here? Do we track their immunization status?

I don't see how there can be any controversy about polio vaccines. The answer, like tha answers to all life's questions, lies in the holy books. Was Mighty Mo vaccinated against polio? No? QED. Was he vaccinated against anything? No?
QED. As for Crest toothpaste, those four dentists are probably all kaffirs. What did Mo use to clean his teeth? What do four out of five imams recommend?

Ha ha.

It's really kind of stupid to apply a 7th century medievalism to the wider world we have today, but that's what we're up against.

7th Century medievalism vs 18th Century Enlightenment principles. Dark age mentality vs. Enlightenment mentality. Dark vs. Light.

It's kind of sad to see how ill-prepared people are in defending Enlightenment principles.

Wow! Darwin's theory in action...pretty soon all the jihadis will be pretty lame!

From Islam Question and answer this is the last paragraph in the answer about ill effects of vaccines:

"But if it is medically proven that a specific vaccine causes harm to the body or that its harmful effects outweigh its effects of warding off disease, then it is not permissible to use it in that case, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “There should be neither harm nor reciprocating harm.”
And Allaah knows best."

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=20276&ln=eng&txt=vaccine

This sounds quite logical, even to a kuffar's ears. When a Mohammedan preacher starts preaching lies from the podium, it's a different problem.

Sadly people in this country will not let their children get the MMR vaccine because they believe the preservative the vaccine comes in may cause autism. And I've heard there has been a rise in cases of the mumps in some parts of the country.

Those who die of polio aren't martyrs. They're idiots.

Oh, wait. Same thing.

Don't these clerics own dictionaries? If they did, then they would know what a true martyr is.

Muslim "scholars" also used to declare that those who died of the Black Death were martyrs, specially picked by Allah to enter Paradise.

Almost seven centuries later, the same ignorant mindset persists, even with a disease which is preventable. Unbelieveable. I wonder how they might react to a bird flu pandemic that might kill millions of people, Muslims and infidels, alike.

Perhaps the clerics are up to subtle bit of jihad. By not inoculating the children, the muslim population builds greater resistance to bacteria and viruses and so forth. After 1000 generations of this, they will develop the muslim superbug whose immune systems will resist all plagues and then they can start deliberating plagues among the infidels. What foresight on their behalf!!

If all Muslim countries get on board with the 'no polio shot' program, it will, in time, be a public health threat to the West. Consequently, it may be an entity like the CDC that will finally have a reason to ban travel here by Muslims who have not had a polio immunization.

Wow I can hardly wait until the sex with prostitutes and dying from Al Capone syphillus becomes the call for martyrs.

Y'all need to understand that vaccines in particular and prophylactic medicine in general are not prohibited in Islam. It is only this lie being spread by the Insane Imams that is the problem. This is a prime example of ignorant people being lead by half-wit Islamic preachers. These imams are only using this to stir up infidel hatred, and they don't give one iota how many Pakistani children suffer.

These creatures excel at somehow getting other people to do the dying and suffering. Perhaps these imams know the real truth; martyrdom sucks.

How many of these imams have themselves been immunized against polio and are now seeking to deny it to their followers?

Not only will we have to ban travel to the West by those who haven't been immunized, we will have to ban Western travel to those countries unless you are immunized and deny reentry and put you in quarantine until it can be determined you pose no medical threat.

Don't these clerics own dictionaries? If they did, then they would know what a true martyr is.

Posted by: champ at February 27, 2007 11:43 AM

Probably not-the only book those nuts consider worthy of reading is the Koran. After all, it covers all facets of life-who needs to read anything else?

This is probably the Colonel Jack D. Ripper syndrome. Col. Ripper blamed a bout of impotency on flouridated water. These imams might be blaming their problems on vaccines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KJy6ZZMH44

Here's a classic example of a religion protesting to be a government. Get that crap on the shelf where it belongs !

vaccinations are to prevent to spread of disease. the irrication of polio was almost complete with the effort of the 50's and 60's, however, these people who are trying to control spread of disease only make diseases stronger and more dangerous than if they would have taken their natural course. disease is a natural way to control population which is way out of control.
so what are you basing your opinions on?

while it may seem that the significiance of this issue is fear that leads to violence, in this case a disturbing disease outbreak, maybe we should consider taking precautions against the spread of disease on our soil through infected suicide muslims and transportation sources.

note: the CDC is not a prevention organization, they count cases.

"Dirka, dirka, mohammed, jihad, sherpa, sherpa, balakva."

UNGA BUNGA BUNGA INGA BINGA BINGA BUNGA!

Do you want to see things change?

Wait for a cleric to get polio.

Posted by: s_sgt7

It'll never happen. The same people advocating against vaccination were probably vaccinated in childhood. The same with the parents of those who are being denied protection.

Do the clerics who are doing this have children? What do they do to their own flesh and blood?

More mind-numbing hate and stupidty from the Religion of "Peace".

From the following article:
http://www.missionislam.com/health/immunisationislam.htm

Immunisation & Islam

"Since there is a natural affinity between kufr and filth (Najaasat), it is not at all surprising to learn of the filthy and impure practises employed by the kufr western medical establishment. The emphasis of the kuffaar is always on the employment of evil, impure and haraam methods and agencies.

The article on Immunisation indicates the repugnant and revolting methods of the western medicine world. Instead of being a curer of disease, the western medical system is a creator of disease on an alarming scale.

Its system of immunisation is in fact, one of the most dreadful medical hoaxes and conspiracies ever engineered in the annals of human history. "

clerics are employees.
of whom?
find the puppet-master and create world peace.

"It is only this lie being spread by the Insane Imams that is the problem. "

....tHE PROBLEM is the Imans kill those who disobey....

... some life these people have...dead if you do , dead if you don't.... all because of Islam...

Its system of immunisation is in fact, one of the most dreadful medical hoaxes and conspiracies ever engineered in the annals of human history. "

Posted by: zaltys

Some ridiculous quotes from this article:

"Doctors admit that 40% of our (United States) population is not immunised against polio. So where is polio? Diseases are like fashions..They come and go, like the flu of 1918."

The following is a formidable list of diseases spawned by vaccinations:
Anaphylactic shock, Diseases and Disorders of the blood, brain, nervous system and skin, Atypical Measles, Monkey fever, Premature Ageing, Allergies, Cancer, Leukaemia, Paralysis, Multiple Sclerosis, Arthritis, SIDS, Encephalitis, Encephalopathy, Ocular Palsies, Guillain_Barre Syndrome, Subacute Scerosing Panencephalitis, Malaise, Sore Throat, Headaches, Fever, Rash, Erythema, Induration, Tenderness and Regional Lymphadenopathy, Parotitus, Ataxia, Retardation, Hyperactivity, Aseptic Meningitis, Seizures, Hemiparests, Rheumatoid, Arthritis, Parotitis, Orchitis, Thrombocytopenia, Purpura, Wheal, Flare, Artheral Polyneuritis, Hemiparests, Pruritus, Unilateral Nerve Deafness, Encephalitis, Brain Damage, Nerve inflammation, Disease of the Lymph glands, Inflammation of the testicles, and glands near the ear, Partial deafness, Skin disorders, Itchiness, Discoloration, Blood disorders, etc........{Compiled from the book Immunisation:The Reality behind the Myth by W. James}

The solution is simple: remove all Western medicine from Muslim countries and ban all travel to those countries unless it's one-way. Treat them like the leper colony they soon will be.

Fortunately for them, the smallpox virus exists only in the CDC and in Russian laboratories.

A Muslim vaccination consists of a bullet to the back of the head....works rather well..The Muslic clerics will readily administer the vaccination if you defy them...

If someone is so stupid as to refuse a vaccine, free of charge that could save them from a crippling disease them let them get polio and become "martyrs".The infidel population should continue to be immunized so that the disease remains only among the Muslims.

What happpened in Nigeria when Muslim morons refused the Polio vaccine while infidels continued to receive vaccinations is that the disease spread among the Muslims.Nigerian Muslims then carried the disease on their pilgrimage to the Hajj spreading the disease further among the umma.Once Nigerian Muslim clerics saw the disease spreading only in their community they relented and allowed vaccination.Refusal of vaccines should also bar Muslims from study and travel in the West.

Muslims pride themselves as being the carriers of death....be it by bullets or by disease...

These ignorant people who listen to their power hungry imams will spread polio and other diseases and eventually harm innocent people - because they let someone else do their thinking.

Reminds of of the recent news that muslims were not sanitizing their hands when visiting patients in UK hospitals -

because the sanitizer has alcohol in it.

So, they spread disease and risk the lives of patients.

RELIGION is man-made and meant to control he population of followers. ALL Religions are the same.

TRUE faith in God does not require someone to tell you how many times to pray or how many times to go to the bathroom or whether you should do this or do that.

The WORD of God (which the sciptures say is Jesus Christ) - read that, do what HE says.

Problem is, PEOPLE want to APPEAR religious. To LOOK holy by doing this or doing that. Work-based 'religion' ALWAYS appeals to folks who don't want to give up pleasing SELF in favor of denying selfish desires and instead living for the Lord.

Man-made RELIGION

Even so ye also outwardly APPEAR righteous UNTO MEN, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Matthew 23:28

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.

Mark 7:7