You would think that the Vast Majority of Peaceful, Loyal Muslims™ in Britain would be applauding these arrests, and all efforts to eradicate the jihad terrorist presence from their community. I mean, that is the only reaction that would fit in with what we have been told, no?
"Muslim fury over arrests," from Gulf Daily News, with thanks to Twostellas:
BIRMINGHAM, England: Wasim Raja, 25, and Imran Khan, 19, are leaning on the grills of a general store in Alum Rock, Birmingham, watching the police activity on Jackson Road opposite with interest."Every time they're coming into Muslim areas, blasting open their doors ... They wouldn't like it if they dragged their mum and dad out of bed in the middle of the night. They're scum," says Khan, spitting on the pavement.
Raja is more conciliatory, although, like many here, he doubts the man arrested in a dawn raid yesterday on suspicion of involvement in a terror plot was guilty of anything.
"I've known him since I was little... He's not that type of person. If they've got a proper lead, then OK. But you've got to be 100 per cent. Maybe it's wrong information."
Police arrested nine mostly Pakistani-origin suspects yesterday, to foil an alleged "Iraq-style" kidnap and beheading plot aimed at bringing a dreaded new form of terror to Britain.
In what officials called a "very, very major operation," the alleged plotters were said to be planning to post video of the execution on the Internet, as has happened to Western hostages in Iraq.
The alleged victim had already been identified by the plotters as a Muslim soldier in his 20s, who was alerted by detectives recently and given protection.
"It was going to be a beheading and this was going to be posted on the Internet via a homemade video," a security source said.
"I think it would be somebody significant inside the Muslim community."
Just good ol boys having fun been in trouble with the law since the day they was born.
"Every time they're coming into Muslim areas, blasting open their doors ... They wouldn't like it if they dragged their mum and dad out of bed in the middle of the night. They're scum," says Khan, spitting on the pavement".
Yeah-and if his "brothers" wanted him for a beheading video he'd be screaming for the "scum" to save his worthless hide.
Among Muslims it would have created lots of motivation and a sense of victory to show us that they can strike whenever they want.
A point to be noted.
These very same Muslims who are protesting with such fury and are absolutely sure they youths are innnocent.
If proved guilty, Will they condemn it with so much passion.
I think NOT.
They will just issue a statement ,condemning them and it will sound like they are doing a favour by releasing the statement.
Double standards or support for jihadis???? Only the moderate muslim know the answer.
Lame Cherry-
If you think today is fun, let's see what happens after Friday prayers.
"Muslim fury over arrests..."
Oh?
"Muslim fury"?
What should count is this:
"Infidel fury over Muslims who were arrested"
and as well:
"Infidel fury over Muslims who are furious about the arrests of Muslims."
leading finally to the necessary and indispensable result:
"Infidel fury over Muslims."
I wouldn't be surprized if the names of the two muslims who provided their outraged comments are fake. Both Imran Khan and Wasim Raja are well known names of ex-Pakistani cricket players.
The Moslems in Britian are Sunnis from Pakistan.
Never forget: Sunnis are more malevolent than the Shia. The Muslims in England are not Iranians. If they were Iranians, many would have taken advantage of their new-found freedom and already coverted to Christianity, a much more appropriate religion for a cultured and intelligent people like the Persians.
England, with its exploding Pakistani/Sunni population is in for a world of pain.
The only effective attack against Islam is an attack against Sunni Islam. By supporting the Shia, we undermine and demoralize the Wahabi/Jihadi supremecists headquartered in Mecca with their God-in-a-box.
"The alleged victim had already been identified by the plotters as a Muslim soldier . . ."
Muslim soldier? This changes my opinion of this, but I will keep that opinion to myself - for a while.
"I wouldn't be surprized if the names of the two muslims who provided their outraged comments are fake. Both Imran Khan and Wasim Raja are well known names of ex-Pakistani cricket players."
Right Razdan. I'm 100% sure of that, but the reporter is asleep.
If they were Iranians, many would have taken advantage of their new-found freedom and already coverted to Christianity, a much more appropriate religion for a cultured and intelligent people like the Persians.
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at February 1, 2007 01:53 PM
There's some truth to it. I met many Iranians that converted. 2 of them are even pastors now. A great asset for Christianity I must admit.
Maybe if somebody photoshopped some hoods or swastikas on some of these ass-clowns the public would better understand.
Maybe if somebody photoshopped some hoods or swastikas on some of these ass-clowns the public would better understand.
Posted by: squire at February 1, 2007 02:03 PM
A mark on their forehead will do it too.
Writing an article about Muslim fury is simply piss poor journalism.
It is not a new angle.
It's the same old same old and everyone knows what side they are on.
Yawn!!!
@Arnie
I too know of several Iranian converts to Christianity. They are very enthusiastic Christians. Devoted Church goers. Given the small number of Iranians I have ever come into contact with, it definitely has some significance. Thus when I hear of a large underground Christian movement in Iran, it resonates as truth.
Maybe if somebody photoshopped some hoods or swastikas on some of these ass-clowns the public would better understand.
Posted by: squire at February 1, 2007 02:03 PM
A mark on their forehead will do it too.
Like Charles Manson and his swastika...
Maybe if somebody photoshopped some hoods or swastikas on some of these ass-clowns the public would better understand.
Posted by: squire at February 1, 2007 02:03 PM
A mark on their forehead will do it too.
Like Charles Manson and his swastika...
How long before the tides change and move forward from the stalemate we are currently in today? Will it happen, or are people in the UK so nihilistic? Will the US take action over Iran Revolutionary Guard activity or will the US act like the Allies before WWII?
I keep wondering this every day: WHY THE HELL IS NOTHING HAPPENING?!
Or maybe I'm too impatient.
Oh Heaven help us.
BBC Radio 2 Terry Wogan happened(?) to have a Mullah on the God slot at 9.20am this morning. Afraid I got so angry I turned it off - not sensible but how I felt at the time.
All I remember is,
"Islam is a wonderfully diverse religion allowing all opinions"
"There is no requirement in the Koran to wear the veil you can see Muslim women in Western dress through simple head scarf’s to the fully veiled. That is part of Islam’s wonderful diversity to allow this.”
So can anyone tell me what else he said?
BBC TV news also had a very literate Headscarf speaking from the street in Birmingham on a little earlier, so literate I thought she was rehearsed. She was reminding us of the victimisation Muslims suffer.
I was going out to work at the time but did anyone catch her?
A community leader in the area , a muslim female
said "...the BNP manifesto is being written here".
Oh really , and i thought the police were trying
to prevent the murder of MUSLIMS.
Her stupidity beggars belief.
"Every time they're coming into Muslim areas..." that's the phrase that really jumped out to me. The Muslim mindset in the UK and elsewhere is largely about the acquisition of territory and then submission of people in that territory and then acquisition of more territory. If Muslims 'own' their own territory, then it must follow that they make up their own rules for people within their territory and that infidel policemen do not belong in their "Muslim areas." Did the police inform the Muslim mullahs, "leaders of the community" about this raid, as is the stated policy, or did the police go into the "Muslim area," without the blessings of the Muslim community leaders?? Does any know the answer to that question.
Read my post at
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24250#c0073
It is appropriate here.
maryrose
You just don’t understand the requirements of sensitive policing of a rich and diverse multi-cultural society!
The police should raid Christians, Jews, Blacks, Hindus, Buddhists, Chinese, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah’s Witness’s etc. etc. etc. etc. in direct proportion to the % of the population make up! Instead they keep picking on Muslims!
It is high time our leaders and all of us realised that the moderate muslim is nothing but the moderate jihadi arm of the fanatical cult called Islam which follows the Peodephile writer called Muhammad.
The strategy is simple.
First the jihadis kills non muslims.
Obviously people killed will react.
Now becasue the western world is stronger and jihadis know if the western world reacts equally in violence then they will be terminated quickly.
So the strategy is simple.
When going gets tought,the moderate muslims step in to calm things for the jihadis. They misguide ouir leaders that Islam is peaceful and jihadis are minority and when things cool down the jihadis get back into action.
If the moderate muslims were so worried about humanity and are peaceful and detest violence,where were the protests when in karballah ,captive soilders were shot.
I never heard any protests from the muslims.???
Did anyone hear them protests???
But obviously an arrest by british poice and obviously when they had surveliiance and reason to do so has got so many protests.
The reality is exposed here about Islam and that is Muslim lives are precious and Non-muslim lifes are not worth a penny.
Yeah, I got that Muslim area bit too! Like police are not allowed in the area?
Good reason to carry a gun. Love that conceal and carry law. Next the Castle Doctrine!
The reporter is obviously stupid. (There's no fixing stupid!)
"muslim areas". That's the problem. It's the UK. Every square inch.
Credit man:
The cry of "seize the land!" came from the lips of the scum that were burning cars in France and torching European French businesses. The purpose is to set up a state within a state or treason. This does not require police action but military action. Clean them out. Check passports and deport. No good will come of them. They will never integrate.
Here we go
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3359485,00.html
Read my post at
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24250#c0073
It is appropriate here.
Carolyn2
It's so true! It's never the majority who do the the fanatism. It is always the fanatics who do them. Simple? D'uh!
Why do the elites have such a problem with this? Just as you describe, the minority always dictate the rule.
I have received this via email---
Can a good Muslim be a good American ?
This is something I've wondered about for some time now: How & why do the
Muslims hate us & everyone else so much? Doesn't their God teach them to
love?
Can a good Muslim be a good American?
This question was sent to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of
Arabia.
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah
except
Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam
and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns
in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends
with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual
leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great
Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat
and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution
since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be
corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow
freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
Every Muslim government is e ither dictatorial or autocratic
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the
Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as
heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent
names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very
suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both
"good" Muslims and good Americans.
Call it what you wish....it's still the truth.
If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above
statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who
understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
Pass it on, Fellow Americans.
The war is bigger than we know or understand.
We never learn, do we?
With these raids an Isamic bookshop selling extremist material has now been raided FOUR times.
One would think that part of Tony Bliars "war" on
terror would entail shutting it down.
DUH!
No , wait...they might be able to sue for
infringement of thier human rights.
DUH!
Maybe if somebody photoshopped some hoods or swastikas on some of these ass-clowns the public would better understand.
Posted by: squire at February 1, 2007 02:03 PM
If only it were true. It's more likely you would see more Muslim demonstrations against those who "disrespect" Islam and the photoshopper would end up before a judge and be charged with a hate crime.
Political correctness still reigns. Just look at Tony Blair and George Bush. Both leaders' countries are under constant threat but they and their underlings continue to kowtow to the "moderate" Muslim groups.
Of course you would expect a newspaper from Bahrain to spin this story this way....
Britan has some major issues to deal with.
The real question to ask is, could a Muslim live with a Christian, no. There's not going to be any peace as long as we don't address this issue of cohabitation. We see the threat but build laws to allow criminals a chance to some kind of redemption, which isn't there. Never will be. Do we give serial killers a second chance, no. Premeditated murder, no. Conspiracy to commit murder, no. But when it comes to Islam, we roll out the red carpet.
Just like these ungreatful Muslims to complain - they should be apologetic and helpful. Britain was sappy enough to let large numbers of these problematic anti-West third world people migrate in (many on the dole) and the thankyou is a spit in the face for trying to protect itself.
"They're scum," says Khan, spitting on the pavement.
A case of the filthy, carbon-encrusted, pot calling the shiny steel kettle black.
". . . he ['more conciliatory' Raj] doubts the man arrested in a dawn raid yesterday on suspicion of involvement in a terror plot was guilty of anything."
Of course, no Moslem is guilty of anything, except being an observant Moslem--which means that anything condoned by the koran is permitted, and makes the perpetrator innocent in the eyes of Moslems--but often makes him guilty by the kufar laws of the infidels.
Co-existence appears impossible. One side or the other's got to give. Move on--and out. Who'll it be? Briton or Moslem?
I would really love to see Robert Spencer on sky news and even better at the same time as they interview scum bags like Dr Azzam Al-Tamimi.
We really need someone like robert to let the british people know what islam is all about.
It makes me laugh when they have one reporter with hardly any knowledge of islam or its history asking muslims questions and when they answer the reporter just has to believe them because he or she has no knowledge of islam.
Robert please try to get on sky news
CREdit man
Credit man:
The cry of "seize the land!" came from the lips of the scum that were burning cars in France and torching European French businesses. The purpose is to set up a state within a state or treason. This does not require police action but military action. Clean them out. Check passports and deport. No good will come of them. They will never integrate.
For the muslim , integration means infiltration.
They are not like other immigrants like jews/hindus.chinese who come and adapt the laws and lifestyles of the new country.
Mind you even jews/hindus/chinese follow their culture and religion but atleast they dont stand on the roof and showcase it loudly or hate other religions.They co-exist in land where they get good life.
But Muslims, they dream of world dominance which no other religion dreams of.
That is why they for them integration is infiltration like they have been doing for years.
Now they are huge in numbers and so now they are starting to do the second phase of after infiltration i.e create islamic state within state.
World war III has started and we just refuse to accept it and are in state of denial.
Fred,
said,
"She [woman with hijab] was reminding us of the victimization Muslims suffer."
Ain't they always victims? until they get their percentage high enough to be able to riot, rape, burn, and kill with minimal consequences in our lands.
MusHuntCowboy,
Excellent exposition of the oxymoron "Muslim-American" or "American Muslim." There ain't no such animal. There can't be, as you have shown.
I shall see to it that your contribution to the anti-jihad gets as wide an exposure as I can give it. Good going, Cowboy*. Thanks!
--------------------
*Moslems and their bedfellows, handmaidens, and fellow-travelers, have made him who bears the appellation "Cowboy" into someone to be condemned, even ridiculed as the overbearing, sooner-shoot-than-talk American. President Bush was bedaubed with that title by some Eurowarts [and I have more than one bone to pick with G.W. but not about this attitude]. By the by, "Eurowarts" does not refer to Europeans per se, but only to those Europeans who condemn the US and defend Moslem and "Palestinian" scum.
Hugh,
Sadly, "Infidel fury" is verboten (not allowed). We are supposed to take it but never dish it out. Our "revered" leaders have made that clear.
If we show anger, we will upset the "sensibilities" of our Islamic fellow-dwellers in our lands. They are allowed to vent, to rage, to do what Moslems do best, because . . .
. . . well, they're Moslems, you know; and they do what Moslems do. Can't change the leopards spots. Whereas we "know better." We traipse along the moral high road. Never sink down to their level. Let them rage, we understand their anger.
They behead, well its their culture. They don't know any better. we must educate them, show them that our ways are superior to theirs: look what we have wrought! While they remain mired in ignorance.
The attitude described above is what makes us excuse their (Moslems') trespasses. Lest we rid ourselves of making excuses for them, we will be making excuses to them for being alive.
THE need of the time is an USA-Europe-Israeli-Indian axis (or call it Christian-Jews-Hindu axis) to battle the cancer of Jihad becasue if not controlled now it will spread and spread and one day it may be too late.
In short all these religion dont hate each other, but Islam hates all these three religion and uniting is neccasry to fight the cancer
A you Tube video, of a BBc chanel 4, four part series shows just how UK muslims think of the british people, policies and islams role in the west.
Clerics spewing hatered twords the british people, calling for their deayhs, under islamic law. Calling women "deficent", and the kicker, explaining how it it allowable to have sex with girls, befor puberty... citing that Mohamid (the pedaphile) set the bar.
many muslims have spent a year denying that Aisha was a pre puberty class , "screw" for mohamid.
The real funny thing is muslims defend the fact that it is only the words of one or two clerics...... Funny they ignore the hundreds of "moderate" muslims sitting on the floor, cheering.
There are very few moderate muslims, if any. Thousands protested cartoons in UK and denmark, (these videos are on you tube also)
they carried signs calling for the deaths and destruction of the UK, Denmark and the USA.
Oh our mosquues are no different im sure, ever talk to a muslim about 9-11 bali or 7-11 or Spain, theres a smirk on their face and a twinkle in their eye, yet their mouth claims to be upset....
They always have a BUT !.... Yeah it was horrible, BUT !
or Osama did a bad thing BUT!...... there are no buts in these types of tragidies... it is simply wrong to kill, LET ALONE FOR GOD.
Visit Topix.net/world/denmark,,,,,, slam a muslim or two for western flags.. and tell the mod's there TA (Team America) said he will never pander to them.
Indiana Jones, the quran claims to have cured cancer and aids..
muslims have very strange beliefs, about that ignorant book...
Funny a man, mohamid as ignorant as he was, couldnt read or write, yet he is respected by backward people as brilliant.
Stories say, Mohamid would hear prayers or quran passages and say, I dont remember that, and still kept the statements as fact.
What an idiot, kinda like the backward belivers, they hear its wrong, but justify the text......
Whenever these terrorist arrests take place news programmes in Britain are full of interviews with Muslims - locals on the street and community leaders. Reporters never interview the indigenous population about what they think of what's happened - their opinions would be too likely to sound non-PC if not inflammatory. The result is an unbalanced view in which, on the one hand, the police argue this, on the other hand, the Muslims argue that. The sense of outraged victimhood expressed by the Muslims is not shown up for the brazen insolence towards the host community and evidence of a wobbly hold on reality that it is. Their justification for their attitude always refers back to Forest Gate.
Personally I think the Forest Gate fiasco was a deliberate Muslim sting on the police and security forces: the moment the guy at the centre of it all said, during a televised news conference, that to him, jihad meant helping people , it was obvious that he was a practised deceiver.
Both Imran Khan and Wasim Raja are well known names of ex-Pakistani cricket players.
Razdan, I have bee criticized at work for being a wordsmith. Some people do not like me to proof read their stuff. Anyway, did you mean that they are cricket players who are no longer Pakistanis or are they Pakistanis who are no longer cricket players?
I know that they are probably Pakistani ex-cricket players, but I could not resist temptation.
the pakis are the worst, funny but the saudis hate them most....
Pelayo
They are retired/dead cricketers. Imran Khan now leads an Islamic political party in Pakistan, and Wasim Raja died a few months ago.
The obsession about Islamaphobia by both Muslims and the media in the UK is especially irrational when you look at the real evidence, and compare it with say anti-semitism. From the Police data (Dec 2006) we already know that Jews are four to five times more likely to be attacked than Muslims in the UK. Now in today's report on anti-semitism (see http://edgar1981.blogspot.com/ for details) it turns out that Muslims are responsible for a totally disproportionate number of attacks on Jews since Asians and Arabs account for 37% of all attacks even though they make up just 4% of the population.
Team America said
Indiana Jones, the quran claims to have cured cancer and aids..
Wow. when did that happen. I never heard of it.
Are you serious the koran claims that.?You are joking right.
Koran itself is cancer as far i think.
markuk said:
"We really need someone like robert to let the british people know what islam is all about."
There are plenty of us in the UK who are fully aware of the Muslim threat. But if you voice your concerns you are labelled some or all of the following:
intolerant, "little Englander", Islamophobic, odious, repellent, scum, racist, fascist, Nazi.
Not only that, but you are liable to be arrested by Blair's stormtroopers.
In the UK, we are - and have been for some time - in the iron grip of political correctness and multiculturalism. It isn't just down to New Labour (voted in by only 21% of the electorate). The rot set in in the 1980s.
At the politically correct forefront of the campaign against common sense is the BBC. Yes - that's right folks - the former bastion of truth and reliability is an enemy of the West. Hard to believe, isn't it?