"You have neither faith nor law." By Khalid Hasan for the Daily Times:
WASHINGTON: A poem in defence of the hijab but full of scorn for non-Muslim women has created a furore in Quebec, where the small town of Herouxville had made it clear that veiled women were not welcome. The poem in French by a Lebanese Muslim was published in an Arabic paper and is now doing the rounds of the Internet.
The poem says: “My veil is not a kerchief/It’s my skin/My modesty, my dignity, my respect/And if you, old-stock immigrant woman/You have neither faith nor law/And you spent your youth drunk/And went from one male to the next/That’s not the case for me.” Liberal Muslim leader Tarek Fatah condemned the poem, saying it denounced non-Muslim women as “godless and depraved”. The writer, Haydar Moussa, defended his work as a cry of pain by a devout Muslim woman hurt by anti-Islamic prejudice.
And the best way to feel better about yourself is to insult others.
Sheesh, are Muslim women so invisible that a MAN has to write what they (supposedly) feel?
Behold the Moral Superiority of the Religion
of the Totalitarian Future!
The inner sewer of arrogance, false pride and sullen self-pity of these people is obscene parading in the guise of 'religion'.
The solution is for Moussa and those that think like him to stay away from us, away from all those narsty infidel slutty wild womens and all our "prejudice".
"The writer, Haydar Moussa, defended his work as a cry of pain by a devout Muslim woman hurt by anti-Islamic prejudice."
Who would have thought a muslim man cared about a muslim woman's pain ?
I guess it's only acceptable if he is the one inflicting it.
Actually, I hope that this poem and a few more like it, insulting to the West and touting Muslim superiority, are widely published. This is a quick read. This poem is not one that a person has to sit in a classroom and workshop about for an hour. For people paying only slight attention to what is going on and to the constant assault by Muslims, this poem could be like a light bulb turning on in the head.
Assalamau Laikum all,
You have to remember muslimas are under enormous pressure ...from Islam to remain just where they are ...and from the West to "modernise". Peoples please remember ...in the eyes of many , modernisation means slutty..and in essence is what this poem is afraid of.
Actually I cannot see much wrong with the poem.
The Womens in the west are mostly wild & slutty with little in the way of faith and very keen to show off their meats.
Many do mostly move from man to man , and if not careful one set of venerial disease to the next.
It is the mensfolk of the west that I feel sorry for...where do you go to get hold of old stock...of decent breed, god fearing, non drinking and non smoking and not afraid to have childrens.
Effendies...please do not be offended ....I am simply stating the obvious.
Naseem,
You obviously know nothing about western women.
The vast majority of us are not promiscuous, disease ridden, childless sluts, but loving wives and mothers, intelligent, hard working, and faithful to our beliefs. Don't feel sorry for our men - rather, feel sorry for muslim men and women who live such socially backward, sexually repressed lives of misery that they are all mentally deranged !
Naseem, the idea of marrying a sack-wearing, veiled, traditional muslima makes me want to vomit. My wife and children suit me fine. Modern western women for modern western men.
How about Mormons, Amish, and lots of other very serious followers of religion? And the men don't have to be violent to their women to keep them pure either.
I was listening to "As It Happens," the radio show produced by the CBC, yesterday evening. I happened to hear part of the interview with the author of this work of art. I didn't hear his explanation of why he wrote a poem from a woman's point of view. I did hear that he wasn't intending to impugn the morality of all Quebec women, just one particular woman, one that he must have had difficulties with.
First of all, the interviewer seemed less than satisfied with his answer. This is a small victory, when CBC puts aside political correctness in favor of pursuing the truth. However, secondly, there was no follow-up on why he would have used a poem to vent his disappointments. Did this young man pursue some wild, Western slutty womans, only to have her turn down his fragile sense of manhood? Poor snookums. Didn't he know that there are so many Moslem women at his disposal and that they wouldn't be caught dead even being accused of not being interested in him?
Maybe this whole incident could be made part of the next episode of CBC's "Little Mosque on the Prarie," where the morality of the entire town's womenfolk is called into question, with hilarious consequences of course.
"The Womens in the west are mostly wild & slutty with little in the way of faith and very keen to show off their meats.
Many do mostly move from man to man , and if not careful one set of venerial disease to the next."
...posted by Naseem above.
Really? Tell me where I can meet some of these women!
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In truth, Naseem, such stereotypes are absurd. Don't judge western morality from Hollywood. That's just fiction. Although I do lament the loss of faith (and some morality) in much of Europe, the situation is not like you describe at all. It's true that the divorce rate is way too high but compared to Islam where a man can put away any of his wives (plural!!!) with just three sentences AND keep custody of his children, even if he's abusive, I'll still prefer even the modern secularized West.
From my own experience, the easiest women are rich Saudis. They get on a plane in Riyadh in full hijab. By the time the plane stops in Cairo, the the abaya comes off to reveal western clothes. When they land in Rome or Paris, they're in miniskirts and putting on makeup and lipstick in preparation for their night clubbing and picking up Western men for anonymous sex while thier husbands or brothers are in the casino gambling away countless dollars. This is the reality.
I even know of one Saudi princess (the daughter of a now-dead king) who tried to seduce her Lebanese Christian doctor. He refused. Islam is profecient at driving immorality into the shadows but like most sin, in the shadows is where it thrives.
"Women going from men to men.."
Oh, by all means, that can't be allowed, it's only the men that should be allowed to go from men to men, as in islam, and from women to women, and from boys to little girls. Women should not have the free choice.
Don't look now, but sexual slavery has been abolished in the West, HOWEVER, it's alive and going stron in ALL islamic countries. Those are the centers for SLAVERIES of all kinds.
So! What are you boasting off?
It is the mensfolk of the west that I feel sorry for...where do you go to get hold of old stock...of decent breed,
"Ah, you're into the cattle breeding business now? So let's talk turkey!
Anyone with basic information, knows that there are risks in the continual in-breeding of stock - and that that's what your kind has been doing - marrying cousins to cousins. A stock breeder also knows NOT to breed inmature stock, as well as avoiding, breeding with old studs - (old islamic scum) because there is no vitality of the offspring - the type to make it a superior stock.
god fearing,
I do NOT fear THE GOD of ALL Things - MY GOD is that GOD that doen't need its creation to defend IT. It doen't need little ole humanity to stand up for IT. Unlike the impostor humanoid called Gabriel, posing as allah.
non drinking
Oh, you should try a nip once in a while. My the way, your superiors in Arabia - like their "likker" every time they escape to Europe.
"and non smoking "
Don't look now, but vice of the hookah came from islam.
"and not afraid to have childrens."
Nobody is afraid to have children, just not eight or eleven of them. It's called QUALITY over quantity. You, islamics, don't know how to bring up children anyway - you, islamics, can't even support them anyway. CHILD ABUSE IS PREVALENT IN ISLAM. An example is that blood letting in January. As a mother, I would fight tooth and nail anyone even going near my kid with a knife.
And for your information, in the sacrificial bloodletting, it's worthless, unless the individual has a conscious knowledge of why they are sacrificing. Infant bloodletting is useless CHILD ABUSE.
How many children do you have anyway?
Deport
Assalamau Laikum Allat,
From the way you write I thought you were a man ...but no you are a mom.
I am a mom too...I have two childrens, My son 23 now, recently graduated from the UK (wanting to marry Sarah , an infedel) to become Sara and a muslima.
My daughter, 19 is at a uni in Pak...not the 8 childrens that you talk about. Pakis love thier childrens too...it's a universal thing.
As for the bloodletting ..the Assura is a shia thing...I have never "bloodlet" my childrens...however being a muslim I can understand how they want to standup helpless and bleeding for their 12th Imam.
While there are many decent upstanding infedels, I have to stand by my comments for a large majority of womens in each UK town ...as I have seen this in action.
As for the rich Saudi muslimas...again no surprises here...but you cannot say that is Islam...that is money talking...and that is a universal thing.
Islam is whether you want to wear a black burka over a white one....as the white one is cooler....womens who can endure (wearing black)more...love Allah best...I'm not saying it's right...only that's the way it pans out for Allah SWT....and as his slaves ...who are we to argue.
Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by Him, seeing He ever liveth to make intercession for them.
Naseem, I'm so sorry you are a slave. My God, the true God, Jehovah, calls me his child. I am a joint-heir with the Lord Jesus Christ. I am adopted into the Lord's family by believing and trusting in Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross for me. He died for you, too, Naseem. You can know the freedom of being part of a family instead of one of the household staff. Simply learn of Him and trust in His saving work.
Naseem be truthful, you do not marry women, you acquire them. And remember you can discard your wife like an old shoe, just by reciting: "I divorce you" even by accident! (what an enlightened religion!) Also, we should remember how much your prophet respected the notion of wife when he taught you how to beat them but yet at the same time admonished you not to beat them as you beat your slaves. How enlightened and respectful of women when your god allah allowed you four wives and unlimited concubines and slaves. Naseem, Islamic values towards women are despicable in every way. The fact that you feel compelled to protect your women from other marauding Arbiya thieves by covering them up is not respectful but rather indicates Mohammed's distrust of his fellow scavenger. Seeking female circumcision, honor killings and a paid dowry is not consistent with your claim. Marrying a nine year old is a crime against humanity.
Thank your stars that when infidels are outraged over Islamic values, infidels do not claim the right to martyr themselves by just killing the Moslems.
"The Womens in the west are mostly wild & slutty with little in the way of faith and very keen to show off their meats. "
except for the pakis offering sexual favours to get a fake degree in london?
"Many do mostly move from man to man , and if not careful one set of venerial disease to the next."
because you think we believe the story of how your husband died?
Beside nasperm, you can get disease from sex with animals too, and that's very frequent in la-whore.
"It is the mensfolk of the west that I feel sorry for...where do you go to get hold of old stock...of decent breed, god fearing, non drinking and non smoking and not afraid to have childrens."
again how many children you have?
one? millions of males willing to breed and only one child for you?
you must be really ugly.
Naseem, Naseem, Naseem, (shaking head sadly)
You just don't get it, do you, sweetpea? Modesty, purity and dignity come from within, not by covering oneself in shapeless, drab garments and affecting an attitude of superiority towards those women who do not. It's the mind, dear, that determines the level of purity and modesty of a woman and from what I know of the Muslim women I have had contact with or heard about, the mind of the average Muslim woman is a very immodest and impure thing. And no amount of dressing in large black bags can change that.
I pity you.
"From the way you write I thought you were a man ...but no you are a mom. '
I'm a fighting AMazon - and I wear pants.
You'll find no softee in me for islam.
My aka is Patrick Henry.
"...however being a muslim I can understand how they want to standup helpless and bleeding for their 12th Imam. "
I don't care who the imam is.
But so far, all the photos I've seen have been of blood on the head of the tots; the mothers should knife themselves.
"While there are many decent upstanding infedels, I have to stand by my comments for a large majority of womens in each UK town ...as I have seen this in action. "
I'm NOT the infidel in my own country - YOU are.
But I'm a Pagan anyway, THE GOD of All That Is - of Nature and Humanity - is my Savior.
I worship upright and joyous -in the deep wood- dancing barefoot - in a circle dance -with the sky overhead.
"it's right...only that's the way it pans out for Allah SWT....and as his slaves ...who are we to argue."
I'm not the slave of The God - by a part of Her/Him, and therefore, IT loves and adores its creation. I worship it upright, with love in my heart and Soul. UPRIGHT - willinging - without fear.
First and foremost if Muslims can call others infidels then they too are infidels in the reverse way. Why has the civilised world become comfortable with the word infidel. It is an insulting word, smacking of racism.
I have stayed with Muslims and in Muslim countries. Muslim womans may not be slutty publically but they have their fair share of depravity,adultery and what not. The only difference is everthing is done behind curtains .There is a lot more incest happenings among Muslim families. No doubt in Muslim families the Son does not trust his father with his wife.
A priest who steals is much more gulity than a thief who steals.If this correct then Muslims are the most immoral lot in the world.Such people don't have any moral right to point fingers at others.
If muslims can create riots over cartoons that the only reason I understand what they meant was by reading about it on the net, why I do not see burning muslim effigies by non muslim for insulting gods greatest creation, the woman.
Maybe we are too civilized for this. Naseem, Having too many children will cause you to numerous problems. If you cannot properly feed them why have them? I will not have 11 chilren and say that it is alright since some may go for car bombing 101. And do not forget, it is always muslims men that insult non muslim women with the word "meat". Explain me why muslim women are not served the same. Try it with your sisters just to see if they like that.
I trust that Quebed Human Rights has been given a great number of complaints about this ant-Quebec poem. Clearly it shows a vile hatred for native Quebecers I am sickened by it and am hurt that my girlfriend is described in such a hated fashion she is not promiscous, and neither are most other Quebec woman. When will Muslims stop hating us.
In the West people can choose naturism without feeling threatened but natural as God intended, even African Tribes can get on naked without this guilt trip, we say they are behind but I say a Veil is no more advanced than the African Tribes attitudes of looking beyond their feelings.
If one is really good natured unashamed non threatening towards another bare skinned person then there is no need to cover up, it's called being free being as innocent minded as children are or mature minded to accept nature for what it is. A naturist family people who have been brought up that way don't look at people the same as those oppressed by it.
A teen would get drunk because they know they are not allowed but that is why the UK youth have more drink related problems than the rest of Europe. In Europe they drink wine at the table in front of their children, they might try some even mixed with another drink but the pattern shows that they don't have the same teen drink problems as the UK.
The same with teen pregnancies the UK is too rigid as a society about talking about sex even on TV. But in Europe it's more open and yet less teen sex and unwanted children.
REWRITE:
Teens would get drunk because they know they are not allowed to drink and this is why the UK youth have more drink related problems than the rest of Europe. In Europe parents drink wine at the table for example in front of their children, they might try some wine either mixed with another drink at a young age but the pattern shows that they don't have the same teen drink problems as the UK when grown up.
The same with teen pregnancies in the UK, British society ashamed about talking about sex within families including the media. But in Europe it's more open and yet less teen sex and unwanted children as a result. By oppressing you make things worse by being open the fun out of being a rebel over drink and sex defuses.