Video: Jihad in Kosovo

Anyone following what goes on in the Balkans will immediately recognize both the truth and the falsity of the assertion just made.

The truth of it is that the Kosovars, like the Bosnians, are under deep siege by the Saudi Wahhabis, who are pouring BILLIONS into the country into an attempt to wrest Islam from the Bektashi Sufis (Shi'a) who make up the majority of the country's Muslims. The Bektashis as a Sufi sect are, with the Reform Jews and a few Christian sects, the only religious group in the world that allows women to the highest levels of priesthood in the religion. They are also deeply pluralistic.

An example: In March of last year the Wahhabis tried to stage a "mass rally" against the erection of a statue of Mother Teresa. NOBODY CAME. Instead all of the largest and most prestigious Islamic groups in Albania quickly repudiated the attempt to create interreligious hatred, claiming it was the work of outside Wahhabi agitators, which it was. According to an Associated Press report, Selim Muca, the leader of the Albanian Muslim Community, the organization representing all Muslims in Albania, said “We respect the contribution of the distinguished figures of our nation, like that of Mother Teresa, who is the honor of our nation.”

The Sufis of Albania and Kosov, whom the Wahhabis declare apostates, whose graves and mosque decorations, paintings, sculpture and all other forms of "representation" -- including priceless iconography -- they destroy, continue to resist Wahhabi money, ideology, and control.

But they will tell you that they are under siege, and they will ask you for your help.

The question is whether Americans will buy the Serb and Wahhabis ploys to destroy moderate Islam in the Balkans under the guise of fighting terror. The Sufis will tell you they are the subjects of terror as much or more than you and ask for your support in fighting the spread Wahhabism in the Balkans -- the obvious purpose of which is to create a Wahhabi BASE in the Balkans from which to disseminate into Europe.

Turning away from the Balkans moderate and pluralist Islam would be tantamount to abandoning Israel becuase it now has a Muslim MP.

There is a real dirty war going on around the independence of Kosovo, and I've never seen more lies told over the future of a small group of good people than this one.

Are there radicalist problems in Kosovo? Oh, you bet. There are radicalist problems in the younger generations of every Muslim group in the world as they reactively reject the quiet that has, for the most parts, been the hallmark of their Hanafi (Sunni) or Bektashi (Shi'a) parents and make common cause with terrorists.

But as long as Kosovo is in the hands it's in now, they deserve our support.

It saddens me to see good people make this terrible and really DANGEROUS mistake of turning on people who are deeply on the side of America.

Many years,

I would ask you to have a look at this website:

http://www.kosovo.net

I watched Mr. Bush today on the CNN during his speech to AEI and I wondered, I wondered how can the US do anything in this world when we Christians are so weak and politically correct.

You see, you guys have NATO - mighty NATO - NATO that is so ready and willing to withdraw troops from fighting alongside US troops at the first sight of trouble.

I am a Serb, I fought the US troops (well if you can call fignting the fact that I was burried in a hole while USAF pounded my butt for 70 days) in Kosovo - yes I am a murdeous Serb, ethnical clensing Serb, evil one.

I just discovered this site couple of days ago and - well, if we had this site in Serbian - we would get pounded by NATO again - for God forbid - how can you say anything bad about poor moslem people - the flowers of peace.

You will notice my sarcasm - yes I am sarcastic - the reason is back in 1998 and 1999 when we tried to (somewhat heavy handedly) get rid of those who are killing you now, you came and smashed us - the bombs didn't hurt - USAF didn't hit many of our targets anyhow - NATO killed more Albanians than we did - but what hurt was that we were bombed by US and Britain and France.

The fact that we got bombed my Dutch and Germans and Spanish and Island was O.K. - those nations never stood for much and were always on the side of the strong - (see how much use you have from them these days)- but the fact that we got hit by you and British and French, people with whom and alonside whom we died in so many wars whilst being called all those names that we were called by CNN and BBC for 15 years - now that hurt.

But, as the time passes and as the anger dies away - I am looking at what the US is doing these days.

Please can someone explain to me how can you say that you are fighting terror in the world and at the same time give our Kosovo and Metohija to those same people you are fighting - in the middle of Europe.

Kosmet (Kosovo and Metohija) are for us like where Mayflower landed, it is our Jerusalem, it is where Ss. Ciril and Methodije created Slavic Alphabet, it is where we took the Cross for which we have been dying for 1300 years.

I got tears in my eyes, you are creating new Afganistan Taliban like state in the middle of Old Serbia.

Mark my words - if you give it to them now - in 50 years you will have the Church of Notre Dame in Paris turned into a Mosque. Remember Church of Saint Sophia in Constantinople (Istanbul).

I am not angry, I am sad - for this world of Cross doesn't ever learn - Crescent moon is a virus, and there is only one vaccine - it is hard to admit it, but the only way to deliver that vaccine is via a led bullet.

Now you can say that I am savage from the Balkans (I live in Australia now) - but trust me, if you ask any one of those kids in Marine uniforms in Iraq - they will give you the same answer - such a Serbian answer it is - if you do not kill them, they will kill you, rape you women and enslave your kids, take your land and if you do not become a moslem - your head will be cut off.

Wake up World - being nice to them is the biggest mistake one can make - trust me.

God have mercy on us all.

May God save and protect the Serbian nation and people! If any Serbs are reading this, I sincerely wish I could do something to help you. I am truly sorry for the misery that was brought down on your people by Bill Clinton. Believe me, he is just as hated by the majority of the American people as he is by you. He was a monster and tyrant who essentially waged war on his own people as well (example: Ruby Ridge, Waco, Elion Gonzalez) and gave aid and comfort to America's enemies in North Korea and the Bosnian Muslims.

-- the obvious purpose of which is to create a Wahhabi BASE in the Balkans from which to disseminate into Europe.

I thought that base was London?

I think we can conclude that Serbia is lost to Islam. It'll take a civil war to save it now..
Posted by: Rougie

They HAD a civil war and Serbia was kicking butt. WHO came to tip the scales the other way.. the way of islam? WE did!! And Osama attacked us on 9/11 to say Thank You! What have we learned from all of this? NOTHING!!!

Jihadwatch is the only venue I see for an honest discussion of islam. Our guvmint remains on its treasonous and self-destructive path!

Scrualla ...

They've already got London, more's the pity. And you can expect them to try to make a base everywhere. But the solution for Kosovo isn't to allow them to be ruled by the people who tried to exterminate them. The solution is to support the Albanians in holding their own against the Wahhabis.

And what the whole world needs is laws against the spread of this creed. I know that runs counter to "free speech" but not all speech is protected speech. The speech calling for the murder or forced conversion of those of other faiths -- and the enslavement of women -- is not protected speech.

But even more important, I think, is that we have to have a new form of energy. Until we stop giving money to the Saudi Wahhabis, that money is going to keep coming back at us as wave after wave of cockroaches, intent on overwhelming an semblance of human rights worldwide.

At last! A little common sense from Morgaan Sinclair !

I am a Serb, I fought the US troops (well if you can call fignting the fact that I was burried in a hole while USAF pounded my butt for 70 days) in Kosovo - yes I am a murdeous Serb, ethnical clensing Serb, evil one.

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God have mercy on us all.
Posted by: xristos.anesti

Well, Even though you are so quick to indict my country across the board I am one German who is on the side of the Serbs and have been ever since I learned what is really going on.

You are definitely NOT evil. You were saving Europe while you tried to save Serbia.

But how many people in Germany and other Western European countries get an honest description of events in their media?

We are just waking up and believe me there is an awful lot of Pro-Serbian sentiment on sites like politicallyincorrect.de and on 'dhimmideutsch' and on 'nebeldeutsch' blogs. There are people from Israel and the United States among the regulars and you should check them out if you speak any German at all.

I agree with you 100% that either you kill them or they kill you. We didn't write the KKKoran - one of them did. We do have to defend ourselves. I am tired of all those people who have their heads in the sand when it comes to is-lame. Their butts make a great target.

I wonder if all the people of different nationalities but who think as we do should try to get lands that are reserved for "natives" - let's save our countries before we become the "white Indians" in our own lands.

I'd rather see Notre Dame and The Cologne Cathedral blown to bits than to become a mosk.

But you are right - the future looks bleak indeed. Thus we MUST stand together. It does not do any good to dismiss entire countries in the fight against jihad. We are dealing with enough already - especially in Germany!

The German Left has only increased since the Berlin Wall came down. I often wish we could put it back. At least the Commies stayed over there and only those who wanted freedom jumped over.

Millions of Commie votes from the former East have moved our guvmint WAY to the Left.. aaaaarrrggghhh!! And you'd think they have suffered the most and would be for freedom the most. Fat chance.

Please do give the freedom-wanting anti-jihadist Germans a chance here. We certainly have no love at home!

Yeah, I think the West, and we in the USA in particular under the Clinton Administration, have been duped with lies about what was going on. See for instance

http://www.amazon.com/Fools-Crusade-Yugoslavia-Western-Delusions/dp/158367084X/ref=rsl_mainw_dpl/104-9635605-1583969?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

IMO it’s a strategic mistake to allow Kosovo independence that will lead to a radical Muslim state and a base for Jihadist operations.

xristos.anesti welcome to this site. It was the Kosovo war and the Bosnia war that made me aware about how hypocritical our governments were. They supported terrorists and seperatists while fighting them at home. The antiwar marches or should I say lack of them in 1999 made me dissillusioned with people who claimed they are for peace. There are marches everday for terrorists none for Serbs. Keep up the good fight you serbs are the only truly brave people left on the planet.

As for this morgan sinclair guy is there a moderator this guy is very trollish. At least his posts should be shortened. He is on some other threads ranting for hours.

@xristos.anesti

Alas my brother (ili avaj brate). Like there is difference now. U should read what this person nicknamed "Morgaan Sinclare" has write about us few days ago just on this web site, to understand where we r realy standing in the eyes of average american (or westerner-I exlude majority on this site).Nothing has realy change, nothing. All this mess on us americans done simply cos they view us as russian pawns, and anglos realy dont have a stomach for ruskies.Just look at her last words "It saddens me to see good people make this terrible and really DANGEROUS mistake of turning on people who are deeply on the side of America." Thats the point. You can do anything you want, to anyone you want, and you can be anything what you realy are (ie. jihadist, rapist, killer, smuggler...), but as long as you suck anglos d...k, you r OK. Those who view things differently, like many of those on this web site, are usually silenced by accusation for bigotry, racism, islamophobia, hate speech etc, just as we was ones in Titos Yugoslavia for nationalism, chauvinism, islamophobia, hate speech etc. I think u and I were just duped with belif that this was all about Milosevic. It seems to me that for majoriti of west it was after all about Serbs.

P.S.
@ Morgaane Sinclare
I realy dont care will your albanians will turn from sunnism to wahabbisam. For me, shit is a shit, and very same reckognition you have made explains a lot. Your dear albanians WILL change their belif to those who offer more. Why not dump suffism for wahabism, when they already dump catholicism for sunnism.Ah yea, I forgot, they "like" america.

Interersting attitude, PissedoffCanadian ...

Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a troll who should be muzzled.

Very totalitarian of you, comrade.

Brilliant interview. I've transcribed the script to send out . . .from the website:

An Albanian Muslim extremist from Kosovo was recently arrested after allegedly plotting to blow up the parliament building in Montenegro.

55-year-old Dodu L. was arrested by Austrian authorities last month while trying to board a flight in Vienna. 12 other ethnic Albanians were reportedly involved in the plot.

There is growing concern that Kosovo, a disputed region in the southern province of Serbia, is emerging as a bastion of radical Islam.

For more on radical Islam's growth in Kosovo you can watch my interview with James Jatras, a representative of the Serbian Orthodox Community.

George Thomas(GT), CBN News Sr. Reporter interviews Jihad Watch Board member James Jatras (JJ)discussing the jihad in Kosovo.

GT:For some perspective today for whats going on in Kosovo is Jim Jatras. He is an advocate for the Serbian Community here in Washington DC. Jim, Thanks for joining us in the broadcast. Can you tell us, please, what kind of influence does radical islam today have in Kosovo?

JJ: Uh George, the radical islamic movement is strong in Kosovo and growing. It has been growing throughout the disorders of the nineties. It is growing today. We have before our eyes a- what had been a Christian country full of churches becoming a muslim country full of mosques. And this is done directly through violence and threat of violence. There has been al qaeda links in Kosovo with the Kosovo Liberation Army, so called, which dominates the local administration there. These are closely connected to the criminal rackets that operate throughout Europe. Kosovo is one of the main conduits
for heroine manufactured from Afghan opium to get into Europe. It's a great transit point also not only for the drug trade but for the slave trade. Women and even children that are kidnapped from places like Belarus, Ukraine are trafficked from Kosovo and then go through the network of the Albanian mafia through the rest of Europe.

GT: Jim when we look back a couple of years ago, when the Clinton administration went into Bosnia Herzegovena went and dealt with Slobodan Milošević came under the guise of bringing democracy, trying to bring peace in this region, and all these years later, what you're telling me is what we are seeing a base emerge in this part of the world for jihad for al Qaeda individuals.

JJ: Absolutely. Everything that the American people think they might know about the war on terror, the war on drugs, the war against organized crime is stood on its head in Kosovo. Here we have for reasons that are very hard to explain, a policy that defacto, if not in intent, ends up supporting the coming to power of the radical muslim leadership of the Kosovo liberation army, the eradication of the Christian community there and bestowing state power on organized crime and terrorist elements.

GT: What is it about Kosovo that is so attractive to these radical muslims?

JJ: I think, I think it - partly it's location, that is, it is a wonderful beach-head into the rest of Europe and the other thing it is available. It is where the international community, including the United States, starting with the Clinton administration, was sold on the idea of 'muslim victimhood' that they could then translate into a quest for power where then they can victimize others.

GT: 'Wahhabi islam, its a term that our viewers are familiar with being exported from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Talk about the influence of 'wahhabi islam' in Kosovo.

JJ: As some people might be familiar, there had been, to a large extent, that the Albanian community in Serbia and in Kosovo specifically, was not entirely religious. There was the legacy of the communist period. That has reversed in the last few decades where more and more, the influence is from the outside fueled by the money from Saudi Arabia, and also from the gulf states to build these mosques, to bring in the teachers, to bring in the literature and to validate a quest for power based on violence and the eradication of the indigenous Christian community there.

GT: Jim, all of this is taking place under the watchful eye of NATO and of the United Nations. Why is the US State Dept. not watching this? Why are they not saying anything about this?

JJ: I think we have a policy that began under the Clinton administration that became institutionalized, became part of the structure of our foreign policy for many years, based on a certain set of assumptions.
You have the inertia of not wanting to changed an established policy. You have a desire to try to impress our friends, supposedly, in Riyahd, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, Egypt. That we are friends of a muslim population here. You also have the element of fear, that the international presence, both NATO
and the United Nations is afraid, and partly with good reason. That if they were to reverse their course in giving power to the muslim Albanian community there , that the violence that has been directed against the Serbs and also other minorities, the Jews, the Roma, would be directed at the internationals as well. So I think there is a sense that we must hurry up and in the dark of night, hand Kosovo over to the muslim Albanians and hope the problem goes away rather than face what we helped create there in Kosovo.

GT: Now it's one thing to accuse the United Nations or NATO or the State Dept. for not stepping in and making this wrong right. But what about the leadership in Kosovo? Why are they tolerating such activities to take place in their region?

JJ: If you mean the Albanian muslim leadership, which is an administration operating under the United Nations, it's quite simple. These are, themselves, the head of the criminal rackets and of the terrorist presence. Two of the main leaders of the Kosovo Albanians, Ramush Haradinaj and Hashim Thaci met Osama bin Laden in 1995 in Kirana to plan the jihad in Kosovo. Another leader of the Kosovar Albanian, their so called prime minister, Agim Cheku is an indicted war criminal. These three people, according to German intelligence meet regularly to plan the operations of the criminal rackets in Kosovo. That's why they're doing this.

GT: Obviously, Serbia and the Serbs have quite a dark history in the region as well. Talk about the reconciliation efforts, if any are going on, taking place in that region, to heal some of the atrocities that have taken place.

JJ: Nobody in the Balkans has clean hands, but, unlike some of the caricatures we've had in the past, this is not a case of white hats and black hats. We have ordinary people on both sides that are simply looking for a decent life and be able to live in peace and security. The Serbian government has offered to the Albanian community in Kosovo, absolutely anything and everything they could possibly want. And after all, we have muslim minorities that live elsewhere in Europe and many places and live very good lives with the same kind of rules that we expect in a descent democratic society. What is being demanded of the Serbian side, however, in Kosovo, is they accept being a persecuted Christian minority in a muslim land. Try to think of one muslim country, where that is a good status to be in. Especially in Kosovo, that will probably lead in very short order to their total eradication.

GT: Jim contrasts an advocate for the Serbian orthodox community. Thank you so much for joining us on the broadcast.

JJ: Thank you, George.

Note to Scrualla: I am sorry that your ass got bombed for 70 straight days in Kosovo. However, perhaps while you're whining about it, you'd like to remember that you guys DISARMED the Bosnians, and then you shelled the city of Sarajevo -- pounding a defenseless people to death -- for 1,168 straight days.

Now, for the rest of you ...

There are those on this website who are still trying to sell the notion that the wars in the Balkans in the 1990s were civil wars and that the Serbs were "fighting radical Islam."

To clarify the situation, here is the timeline of the Balkans wars. As it so eloquently and sadly reflects, when the Yugoslav communist state fell apart with the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the death of Tito, Milosevic came to power. Even before that, every ethnic group in the Balkans started voting itself out of the Serb-dominated union. Serbs, taking control of the materiel of the entire former state, waged war on every single ethnic group in the county. In Bosnia and Kosovo, there was an attempt at what gendercide.org calls "the total genocide of Muslim men". Serb tactics included rape, murder, forced deportation, intimidation, torture, and genocide. In reponse Croats, Bosnians, and Kosovars started responding in kind.

However, indictments at the Hague Tribunal run 60% Serb to 40% of all the other ethnic groups in the former Yugoslavia combined, and none of those groups attacked first.

Here is the Balkans timeline. NOTICE THAT THE FIRST ACT OF THE SERBS IS TO TRY TO TAKE RIGHTS FROM THE KOSOVARS. This timeline lays out in the most succint way possible what happened in this land. And you will notice, if you read it, that every attempt by other ethnic groups to get out of Serb control is met by violence. Period. End of story.

June 1989
Serbs gather at the site of the Battle of Kosovo to commemorate its 600th anniversary. President Slobodan Milosevic, recently elected, uses the occasion to promote Serbian nationalism and strip Kosovo of all autonomy.

Jan. 1990
The Yugoslav Communist Party splits along ethnic lines
Deadly riots in Kosovo result in Yugoslav Army intervention.

Feb. 1990
Curfew imposed in Kosovo. Yugoslav troops deployed.
Multi-party system adopted in Bosnia-Herzegovina republic.

Apr. 1990
A pro-independence coalition wins in Slovenia.

May 1990
HDZ Party (Croatian Democratic Union) wins elections against the communists. HDZ leader, Franjo Tudjman, advocates a Yugoslav confederation of sovereign states.

June 1990
Serbia referendum in opposition to ethnic autonomy for Kosovo and Vojvodina and in favor of retaining one-party state.
HDZ proposes that Constitution in Croatia be amended to allow for a confederated system of sovereign states.

July 1990
Albanian delegates of the parliament of Kosovo declare independence from Yugoslavia. Belgrade responds by banning the Kosovo shadow government led by Ibrahim Rugova and shutting down or taking over local media.
The Slovenian legislature declares Slovenia a sovereign state.
The League of Communists of Serbia and the Socialist Alliance of the Working People of Serbia mere to become the Socialist Party of Serbia. Slobodan Milosevic is elected President by the delegates in a landslide.
Croatia adopts the proposed amendments to the Constitution which replace the flag and declare that Croatia would no longer be a socialist republic.
The Bosnian legislature adopts constitutional amendments declaring Bosnia-Herzegovina a democratic state with equality for all its ethnic groups.

Aug. 1990 ... As Croatia's move towards independence seems likely, ethnic Serbs in the Krajina area of Croatia argue for autonomy from Croatia. Serbs declare the Serbian National Council as the authority for Serbs in Croatia.

Oct. 1990 ... The Serbian National Council proclaims autonomy for Krajina.

Nov. 1990 ... A Macedonian party advocating a confederation of sovereign states comes to power in the first multi-party elections.
Bosnia-Herzegovina holds its first multi-party elections. Nationalistic parties win.

Dec. 1990 ... Milosevic wins the presidency of Yugoslavia. Ethnic Albanians boycott the elections.
The new Croatian Constitution recognizes ethnic Serbs as a minority, but does not grant rights to minority groups.
In a plebiscite in Slovenia, nearly 90% of voters favor sovereignty.

Jan. 1991 ... Macedonia elects a new President and adopts pro-sovereignty legislation. Slovenia announces that it will start legislative procedures towards independence.

Feb. 1991 ... Tensions increase in Croatian territories of Slavonia and Baranja where there are large numbers of ethnic Serb residents. The Serbian National Council declares that Krajina will remain in Yugoslavia should Croatia secede.

Mar. 1991 ... Milosevic orders a crackdown on opposition protests in Serbia.
Krajina Serbs declare autonomy from Croatia and are recognized by Milosevic. Armed conflict underway between ethnic Croats and ethnic Serbs in Croatia.
Serbia assumes authority over the dissolved Kosovo legislature.
The European Community, in response to the increased tensions in Yugoslavia, declares that it supports diplomacy and political dialogue over force and promotes unity and democracy in Yugoslavia.

Apr. 1991 ... Bosnian Serbs begin a war in a quest for their own ethnically pure republic. At a meeting of the six Presidents of Yugoslav republics, they agree that each republic should hold referendums on confederation or federation.

May 1991 ... Serbs refuse to accept a Croat president under the terms of Yugoslavia's rotating presidency. Referendum on separation of Croatia held. Over 90% votes for sovereignty and independence. Krajina Serbs boycott the referendum.


June 1991 ... Macedonia and Bosnia-Herzegovina unsuccessfully propose a Yugoslav commonwealth of sovereign republics. Slovenia and Croatia declare independence from Yugoslavia. Krajina, a region with a large number of ethnic Serbs, declares independence from Croatia and has backing of Yugoslav People's Army. Yugoslav army tanks and helicopters attack Slovenia. After the Slovenian militia captures 2,000 soldiers, it trades their release for the right to control its own borders. The war in Slovenia lasts a total of a week. Fighting between Serbian and Croatian militias is more severe, especially in Krajina, Baraja, and Slavonia. The U.S. states support for unity and democracy of Yugoslavia and sovereignty determined through mutual agreement rather than unilateral secession. In light of the situation, the European Community freezes economic assistance to Yugoslavia.

July 1991 ... Slovenian protests in favor of independence.

Aug. 1991 ... The Yugoslav army calls off intervention in Slovenia's independence.
Meanwhile, Yugoslav tanks and aircraft drive refugees from Vukovar and Dubrovnik. Fighting escalates. First international monitors arrive in Croatia.

Sept. 1991 ... The UN Security Council enacts an arms embargo against the former Yugoslav republics and an economic embargo on Serbia and Montenegro.
The European Community hosts a Conference on Yugoslavia in the Hague. Ceasefire between Serbia and Croatia signed. In spite of this, fighting continues.
In a referendum in Kosovo, ethnic Albanians vote for independence.

Oct. 1991 ... Croat and Muslim parties in Bosnia unite against Bosnian Serbs and plan for a referendum on the future of Bosnia-Herzegovina. President of Croatia Franjo Tudjman and President of Serbia Slobodan Milosevic again sign a cease-fire. However Yugoslav Army remains in Croatia. The Conference on Yugoslavia reconvenes in the Hague. Co-Chairman Lord Carrington submits a proposal which supports independence and recognition for former republics and protection of rights of ethnic minorities. Serbia refuses to agree to the proposal even after changes are made, on the grounds that it does not support the unity of Yugoslavia. Albania's parliament recognizes Kosovo as an independent republic.
The Bosnian Muslim government declares itself a sovereign state.

Nov. 1991 ... 90% of Bosnian Serbs vote to remain within Yugoslavia.
Macedonian legislature proposes new Constitution declaring Macedonia sovereign and independent.

Dec. 1991 ... Germany recognizes Croatia and Slovenia. European Community decides not to apply economic sanctions to Bosnia-Herzegovina, Macedonia, Slovenia or Croatia. UN Special Envoy Vance's peace plan would provide UN peacekeepers to Eastern Slavonia, Western Slavonia, and Krajina following a ceasefire and withdrawal of troops and disbanding of irregulars, but offers no specific solutions to the ethnic conflict. The Bosnian Serbs adopt a Resolution to form the Serbian Republic (Republika Srpska) of Bosnia- Herzegovina within the framework of Yugoslavia. Ethnic Serbs in Krajina, Slavonia, Baranja and West Srem declare their own republic.

Jan. 1992 ... UN adopts resolution to send monitors and ultimately peacekeepers. 27 more countries and European Union recognize Croatia as an independent sovereign state. Temporary ceasefire in Croatia.

Mar. 1992 ... Bosnia votes for independence in spite of most Bosnian Serbs voting against secession. Bosnian Serbs set up their own Parliament and local militias. The fighting in Croatia expands to Bosnia.

Apr. 1992 ... The United States recognizes Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina as independent sovereign states. Bosnian Serb forces start to drive Muslims out of small villages; many of these refugees flee to the larger Bosnian cities of Zepa, Srebrenica, Tuzla and Sarajevo. Siege of Sarajevo begins.

May 1992 ... Croatia accepted as a full member in the United Nations.
International sanctions against Serbia and Montenegro, the two remaining republics of Yugoslavia. Ethnic Albanian writer Ibrahim Rugova is elected president of Kosovo in an election unsanctioned by the Yugoslav government.

June 1992 ... Croatia joins the war in Bosnia on the side of the Muslims.

Aug. 1992 ... UN Protection Force (UNPROFOR) is authorized to use force to deliver humanitarian supplies to Bosnia, which is now 2/3 under Serbian domination. First international reports of "ethnic cleansing," rapes, concentration camps, and mass executions in Bosnia.

Sept. 1992 ... Serbia expelled from the United Nations.

Oct. 1992 ... Serb and ethnic Albanian leaders in Kosovo hold peace talks.
The UN imposes a no-fly zone over Bosnia.

Jan. 1993 ... Croatia launches an offensive in Krajina. Geneva Peace Talks underway. Under discussion is the Vance-Owen Plan, which would partition Bosnia and provide for a rotating presidency, but require no Serb troop withdrawals.

Feb. 1993 ... U.S. begins airlift of aid supplies to Bosnia.

Mar. 1993 ... War between Muslims and Croats in Bosnia.

May 1993 ... Bosnian Serbs reject Vance-Owen Plan. Some cooperation between Croatia and the Bosnian Serbs.

June 1993 ... Bosnian Serb President Radovan Karadzic proposes several partition deals that would leave Serbs about half of Bosnia. The Bosnian Muslim government rejects this plan. UN declares "safe areas" in Sarajevo, Tuzla, Bihac, Zepa, Gorazde, and Srebrenica.

July 1993 ... Krajina Serbs vote to join the Bosnian Serbs in "Greater Serbia."

Sept. 1993 ... Bosnian Muslims reject Owen-Stoltenberg Peace Plan to separate Bosnia into Muslim, Croat and Serb sections.

Feb. 1994 ... A Bosnian Serb mortar shell kills 68 people in a Sarajevo market. The attack increases international attention to Bosnia and western nations threaten air strikes if the Bosnian Serbs do not stop shelling Sarajevo. NATO shoots down four Serb aircraft.

Mar. 1994 ... Croatian and Muslim Bosnians agree on guidelines for a federated Bosnia. Krajina Serbs sign a ceasefire and zones of separation between Serbs and Croats.

May 1994 ... Western countries start air strikes against Bosnian Serbs, but end them as UN Peacekeepers are taken hostage by the Bosnian Serb army as "human shields."

Nov. 1994 ... U.S. ends embargo on arms to Bosnia.

Dec. 1994 ... Muslim-Croat Federation and Bosnian Serbs sign cease fire.

May 1995 ... Croatia seizes Western Slavonia. Krajina Serbs shell Zagreb.
Fighting escalates in Bosnia.

July 1995 ... Bosnian Serb forces enter the "safe areas" of Srebrenica and Zepa in eastern Bosnia. In what is considered the largest massacre since World War II, as many as 8,000 Bosnian Muslims are killed by Bosnian Serbs under the command of Ratko Mladic. Croatia expels ethnic Serbs from Krajina. Nearly 70 ethnic Albanians in Kosovo are sentenced to jail for setting up a parallel police force.

Aug. 1995 ... Bosnian Muslim and Bosnian Croat forces fight Bosnian Serbs in Bihac. Serbs driven out of western Bosnia and Krajina. Serbian authorities settle several hundred Croatian Serb refugees in Kosovo.

Sept. 1995 ... NATO airstrikes against the Bosnian Serbs. Serbian forces withdraw weapons from around Sarajevo.

Oct. 1995 ... Ceasefire declared in Bosnia.

Nov. 1995 ... Proximity Talks between the Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, and Yugoslavia held in Dayton, Ohio.

Dec. 1995 ... The Dayton Peace Agreement is signed in Paris. The plan gives 51% of the Bosnian territory to Muslim-Croatian Federation and 49% to Bosnian Serbs. It also authorizes a right for refugees to return to pre-war homes and an international force (IFOR) to implement the peace plan. With regard to Croatia, the Dayton Plan recognizes the country's pre-war borders (including Eastern Slavonia).

Mar. 1996 ... The UN ends its embargo on small arms for the region. The United States approves arms and equipment for Bosnia.

Apr. 1996 ... Bosnian Muslim and Croat officials sign a Federation accord to jointly collect customs duties and have a common flag. Yugoslavia and Macedonia establish diplomatic relations. The international community pledges to raise $1.2 billion for the reconstruction of Bosnia. Bosnian Serbs refuse to attend as part of a delegation with Muslims and Croats.

May 1996 ... The International War Crimes tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia opens in the Hague. This is the first war crimes tribunal since the Nuremberg Trials after World War II. In Belgrade, workers protest economic conditions in Serbia, as the Milosevic government insists that IMF funds must be linked to recognition of Serbia as the only successor of the former Yugoslavia.
Radovan Karadzic officially steps aside as the leader of the Bosnian Serbs. Biljana Plavsic becomes the new leader. UN officials confirm the statement of Bosnian Prime Minister Muratovic that Bosnian Serbs are expelling Muslims from the Teslic area in central Bosnia.

July 1996 ... Leaders of Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia sign an agreement to reduce arsenals of heavy weapons. The Bosnian Federation approves the merger of the Muslim and Croat armies. Mass graves discovered at Srebrenica.

Aug. 1996 ... Serbia and Croatia agree to establish diplomatic relations.

Sep. 1996 ... Bosnia holds the first national elections since the end of the war. Bosnian Muslim Alija Izetbegovic becomes the first chairman of the new, rotating presidency to be shared with Serbian Momcilo Krajisnik and Croat Kresimir Zubak.

Dec. 1996 ... After Milosevic anulls local election results, Serbs take to the streets in protests.

Jan. 1997 ... The Implementation Force (IFOR) is renamed the Stabilization Force (SFOR). The Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), a banned ethnic Albanian militia group suspected in car bombing of Serb rector of Pristina University. KLA leader killed by police.

Mar. 1997 ... Four people injured when a bomb explodes in the center of Pristina, Kosovo.

July 1997 ... The War Crimes Tribunal convicts Serbian police officer, Dusan Tadic to 20 years in prison for crimes against humanity. Tadic is the first to be tried in the Tribunal. He appeals the conviction.

Sep. 1997 ... Bosnia holds municipal elections which are the first to allow voting in pre-war municipalities.

Feb. 1998 ... U.S. makes limited economic concessions to Serbia.

Mar. 1998 ... Battle in village of Prekaz in Kosovo with between 20-50 ethnic Albanians killed. U.S. ends concessions. Ethnic Albanians vote for president and parliament, but elections are declared illegals by Serbia.

Apr. 1998 ... Serbian referendum opposes Western intervention in Kosovo.
U.S. and Western Europe set new sanctions against Serbia, including freezing of assets abroad.

May 1998 ... Peace talks between ethnic Albanians and Serbs even as fighting continues.

July 1998 ... Kosovo Albanians inaugurate their outlawed parliament. Serbian police order legislators to disperse.

Aug. 1998 ... Serbian forces capture Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) stronghold of Junik. UN calls for a ceasefire in Kosovo.

Sept. 1998 ... NATO issues ultimatum to Serbia to stop violence in Kosovo or face air strikes. UN condemns massacres of Kosovar Albanians by Serbian troops.
NATO threatens airstrikes in spite of Russian protests.
Serbian forces appear to pull back, NATO halts threat, and UN authorizes monitors to ensure violence has ended.

Jan. 1999 ... Violence escalates in Kosovo. International monitors discover the bodies of at least 45 Albanians in Racak in southern Kosovo. UN war crimes prosecutor Louise Arbour is refused entry to Kosovo to probe killings.
NATO once again threatens airstrikes.

Feb. 1999 ... Rambouillet Peace Talks held in France between Serbs and Albanians. Kosovo Albanians conditionally accept ceasefire and draft accord in exchange for broad autonomy for Kosovo. Serbs accept conditional autonomy. In spite of small success, Serb forces expand in Kosovo.

Mar. 1999 ... Peace talks resume in Paris. The Kosovar Albanians sign the accord, but Serbia rejects international peacekeepers on their territory and boycotts the event. International monitors withdraw from Kosovo. In spite of last-minute diplomatic efforts to seek a peaceful solution, Serbia continues to reject any talk of NATO peacekeepers in Kosovo. NATO launches air war against Yugoslav military targets. Russia suspends cooperation with NATO. Yugoslavia breaks off diplomatic relations with United States, France, Germany and Britain.
Hundreds of thousands of ethnic Albanian refugees flee to Albania, Macedonia, and Montenegro.

Apr. 1999 ... Refugee crisis in Albania and Macedonia continue at levels as much as 20,000 people entering per day. Yugoslavia closes refugee exit points. Macedonia refuses to let NATO and UN set up more camps. NATO bombs hit a passenger train south of Belgrade and a convoy of ethnic Albanian refugees.
Yugoslavia rules out a foreign military force in Kosovo but says it is willing to discuss a civilian presence. Yugoslavia breaks diplomatic relations with Albania. Yugoslav and Kosovar Albanian troops exchange fire at the border.
NATO missiles hit the headquarters of Milosevic's Serbian Socialist Party, his private residence, Serbian State Television, and the Defense Ministry.

May 1999 ... NATO missiles mistakenly hit a bus north of Pristina, the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, and a crowded bridge in central Serbia. They also hit the ethnic Albanian village of Korisa under the belief that it is a Serb military camp. NATO begins intensive bombing of Yugoslav electricity grid, disrupting power and water. War Crimes Tribunal indicts President Milosevic for crimes against humanity. Yugoslavia seemingly accepts a peace plan from the European Union and Russia, but still will not agree to NATO's terms. NATO bombing campaign increases.
Serb forces start withdrawal from Kosovo. NATO halts the air campaign.
Russian peacekeepers from Bosnia enter Kosovo and take control of Pristina airport. Ethnic Albanian refugees start to return home. Kosovar Serbs head north. The NATO air campaign officially over, as Serb withdrawal from Kosovo completed. The KLA promises to disarm.

Dec. 1999 ... Croatian President Tudjman dies of cancer.

Jan. 2000 ... Serbian businessman, paramilitary leader and indicted war criminal Arkan is assassinated in a Belgrade hotel. The Milosevic government denies involvement, although rumors spread that Arkan was ready to provide evidence in the Hague against Milosevic. The first case tried in the War Crimes Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia ends. Following the appeals process, Bosnian Serb Dusan Tadic is sentenced to 20 years for crimes against Muslim and Croat prisoners.

Feb. 2000 ... Ethnic Albanians in Kosovo spar with UN troops over their protection of Kosovar Serbs. New Croatian government promises to support internal democratic reforms and the independence of Bosnia, rather than foment a separatist movement among the Bosnian Croats. Serbian Defense Minister assassinated.

March 2000 ... More Serbian independent media shut down by government and Serbia seals its border with Montenegro. Several Bosnian Serbs are arrested by NATO troops and charged with war crimes between 1992-94 in Bosnia. Meanwhile, the new Croatian government hands over to the War Crimes Tribunal a Bosnian Croat who had commanded irregular forces against Bosnian Muslim from 1993-94.
Street battles in Mitrovica, Kosovo result in deaths of civilians and French peacekeepers.

April 2000 ... In Bosnian elections, the Social Democrats win in the Federation. The Serbian Democratic Party narrowly wins in Republika Srpska.
A Milosevic ally and head of Yugoslav Airlines is shot to death in Serbia.

May 2000 ... The head of the Vojvodina provincial government in Yugoslavia is shot to death. President Milosevic blames the political opposition for the murder. The Opposition holds rallies in favor of free elections. Milosevic continues crackdown on independent media. The Greek government removes religious affiliation from citizen identity cards. Albania, Bulgaria, Macedonia and Slovenia are among nine nations petitioning for NATO entry by 2002.
A Serbian court convicts nearly 150 ethnic Albanians on terrorism charges stemming from the 1999 NATO bombings. Yugoslav President Milosevic closes universities early. The Security Advisor to the Montenegrin President is shot dead.

June 2000 ... Elections in Montenegro are split. Although the pro-western government wins, pro-Milosevic representatives win in heavily Serbian areas.
Serb opposition figure Vuk Draskovic survives an assassination attempt in Montenegro. Montenegro informs the UN that it does not wish to be represented by Yugoslavia.

July 2000 ... Yugoslav President Milosevic adjusts the constitution to reduce Montenegro's power in the legislature and to allow himself to run for reelection.

September 2000 ... Yugoslav elections take place. In spite of widespread vote fraud and the refusal by most Kosovar Albanians and Montenegrins to participate, opposition leader Vojislav Kostunica is elected. The Milosevic governmen insists that the victory was still less than 50% of the votes and declares that a second round of voting will take place in October. The opposition refuses to accept a second round and leads nationwide protests and strikes.

October 2000 ... Serb protesters storm the Parliament building and official state media outlets in Belgrade. Milosevic concedes power to Kostunica, who is sworn in as the new Yugoslav President. Alija Izetbegovic, citing poor health, steps down from the Bosnian Joint Presidency. As the last of the wartime leaders, his decision marks a new era in Balkan leadership.

February 2001 ... The International War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague convicts the former Chief Executive of the Croatian Defense Council of crimes against humanity for his role in military offensives against Bosnian Muslim civilians in 1992-93. He becomes the highest-level official to date convicted in the Tribunal. In a separate case, the Tribunal reaches a conviction in a case where rape is seen as a motivated act of war. This is the first in international law.
The Yugoslav Parliament passes an amnesty law for 650 ethnic Albanians held in jails since the 1999 Kosovo War.

March 2001 ... Skirmishes along the Macedonian border between ethnic Albanians and Macedonians.

April 2001 ... Slobodan Milosevic arrested in Belgrade after standoff. Serbian government vows to try him at home rather than send him to the Hague. Survivors of Srebrenica storm U.N. Headquarters in Sarajevo following reports that a Bosnian Muslim Commander who defended the town would be charged with war crimes against Bosnian Serbs.

June 2001 ... On the anniversary of his "Field of Blackbirds" speech in Kosovo, Slobodan Milosevic is extradited to the Hague, where he will eventually stand trial at the International War Crimes Tribunal. Milosevic refuses to cooperate and the Court issues a Not Guilty Plea on his behalf. Violence in the Macedonian capital Skopje over NATO troops escorting ethnic Albanians from the country.

July 2001 ... Fighting in Macedonia continues, as government forces battle Albanian rebels in the western town of Tetovo. Bosnian Serb general Radislav Krstic found guilty of genocide for role in July 1995 Srebrenica execution of 7,000 Muslim men and boys. Macedonian government sign peace agreement with Albanian rebels. British-led NATO force enters country to disarm guerrillas.

November 2001 ... Bosnian Serbs convicted in the Hague of setting up prison system.

December 2001 ... Slobodan Milosevic charged with genocide at the Hague.
January 2002

February 2002 ... Trial of Slobodan Milosevic opens in the Hague, with Milosevic representing himself.

April 2002 ... The Dutch Government resigns amidst scandal over Dutch UN troops not preventing the 1995 Srebrenica massacre.

July 2002 ... The presidents of Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, and Yugoslavia meet for the first time since the war. The countries pledged to cooperate on the repatriation of refugees, fight organized crime, and assist each other in economic development. The United States extends its peacekeeping mission in Bosnia amidst negotiations over Americans being granted immunity from prosecution by International Criminal Court. Slobodan Milosevic's failing health due to heart disease slows down his trial in the Hague.

October 2002 ... Former Bosnian-Serb leader Biljana Plavsic admits to committing crimes against humanity during the 1992-1995 Bosnian war against Croats and Muslims.

November 2002 ... NATO invites Slovenia to join alliance, along with several Central and Eastern European countries.

February 2003 ... Yugoslav parliament votes to rename the country
Serbia and Montenegro. The new federation includes a joint administration of defense and foreign affairs and a future referendum on Montenegro's independence. Plavsic sentenced to 11 years in jail by the War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague.

March 2003 ... Serbian Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic is assassinated in Belgrade. Likely suspects are organized criminals with ties to Milosevic.

April 2003 ... Mirko Sarovic, the Bosnian Serb member of the tripartite presidency is forced to resign following a scandal over military exports to Iraq. Slovenia and nine others countries meet in Greece to sign a treaty to join the European Union.

September 2003 ... Wesley Clark -- NATO commander during the war in Kosovo -- announces he plans to run for the Democratic nomination for the U.S. presidency.

November 2003 ... HDZ wins more than 40% of the seats in parliamentary elections in Croatia.

December 2003 ... Political parties associated with nationalism in the 1990s gained power in Croatia and Serbia-Montnegro. HDZ, the party of Franjo Tudjman, wins in general election in Croatia. In Serbia-Montenegro, the Serbian Radical Party of Vojislav Seselj walked away with the most votes. Seselj and Slobodan Milosevic both won seats in spite of being held in the Hague on war crimes charges. SDSS (the main ethnic Serb political party in Croatia) agrees to support HDZ positions in parliament in exchange for concessions on rights for Croatia's Serbian minority, including helping refugees to return to or make claims on their properties. Bosnian Serb General Stanislav Gaic is convicted of war crimes in the Hague for his part in commanding the siege of Sarajevo from 1992-1994. Bosnian Serb commander jailed for 27 years for role in the 1995 massacre in Srebrenica. Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty ends its broadcasts in Croatian (and six other Eastern European languages).

The deft handling of this situation will involve two things:

(1) Aiding the resistance of the Kosovar Albanians to the siege laid on their numbers by the Saudi Wahhabis.

(2) Resisting absolutely any attempt by the Serbians to try to control the people they tried to exterminate less than 15 years ago. If the Kosovars want to be a part of Serbia, they will VOTE TO BECOME PART OF SERBIA. They do not. Nor should the world allow Serbia to go to war against these people again.

Scrualla, Schaemme dich!

The Berlin Wall and the barbed wire from the Thueringerwald to the Baltic only kept the Stalinists to the East. Read Kozlowsski's history of Marxism to see how many New Left leaders scurried west after the 1953 riots. The Frankfort School--headquartered in the Bundesrepublik (Juergen Habermas and Co.)-- are Marxists who have brought us much of the cultural relativism that leaves us defenseless against an Islamic radicalism that would still be cringing otherwise. Frankly, Germany's glory in this new clash of civilizations is that the folks who planted Evangelical churches in Turkey caught the bug while living as Guest Workers in Germany.

And, in our zeal to attack Muslims, will we include as well those who call the Catholic Mother Theresa part of the "honor of the Albanian nation" and thoe Albanian Muslims who sent congratulatory notes and gifts when their Christian neighbors reopened churches after the death of Enver Hoxha? Will we include those Turks who took to the streets with signs reading "We are all Armenians" in response to the murder of Hrvant Dink?

My advice to the Serbs: Make up with your Albanian and Bosnak neighbors; then sponsor the publishing of the Bible and other Christian literature in their languages (shouldn't be too hard with the Bosnaks). Poke a little at Islam in a truly Christian way and you will find out that there are quite a few Muslims who are disgusted with the violence and may be open to the Gospel. That's the greatest service you could do to the memories of Cyril and Methodius.

More copy/pate lies from Morgan thinking that if he repeats it enough times it will become the truth.

@ Morganee
"Serbs, taking control of the materiel of the entire former state, waged war on every single ethnic group in the county."

Realy. Every single? Well, I have heard for war in, say, FRY Macedonia. But it wasnt Serbs vs Macedonians. Oh, my, it was albanians get angry again. Ofcourse, there was not a sight of Milosevic there, but your "precious" was descendants of ancient ilyrians, which means (at least in their heads), they have more right for living on Balkans than anybody alse. We all have heared here albanian version of history (correct just as your timeline) that actualy Allah has created Earth (presumably on the first day), than albanians (presumably on second) and finally amebas.
And since there was not Slobo in Macedonia in 2001, nor in Serbia in year 1981 I wonder why albanians rebel than. Ah, yes, Tito dies, and there was noone to contain evil Serbs. But there was Tito in year 1968, and why albanians rebel than? I dont know. Sudden jihad syndrome perhaps? Ofcourse not. They are decent and calm people. But what before Tito. I mean, Hitler was in charge on Kosovo during WW2, right?. Why than albanians sided with nazis making skenderbeg division? AH, yes, that was tiny minority.But what about before that? Why not dig deeper. Why the hell we evil Serbs need to go in exodus with our patriarch in year 1690? Who the hell persecuted us. Not albanians thats for sure. They r good guys. Or at least smart. They know whose d..k to suck to get what they want. Turkish, Nazis, Americas...Why not u stay in the line. Or u was already?

P.S.:Copy/Paste is realy good function in Windows. I became tired with your intelectual level fine just for repeating yourself. But I would like to tell you this. I realy, REALY, wish, that u and all those like you live the rest of your life just as Serbs live their life among "good" albanians. But u r too rich for that, right.

For all the others - no body in the Balkans is innocent - surely that is quite obvious.

But you see, what would you Americans do if lets say (I am just using this as an example - my apologies to anyone who might get offended) all the legal and illegal immigrants from Mexico decide to declare independence of California from the US? Would you respect their "democratic right to secession" or would you say that there is no chance of that?

I am using this example for it is closest to home - there were always Mexicans in California, but for whatever reason due to both forms of immigration (legal and illegal) suddenly you have a situation that you have so much more of them comparing to all the others and they have referendum and decide to call it Los California and make it an independent state, would you let them?

Or British, have Birmingham called New Pakistan and all the Pakistanis in that place have referendum and decide to separate from the UK, should UK alow that?

There are other examples - but the point is that there is Albanian majority in Kosmet due to couple of factors - illegal (mainly) and legal immigration, forcing of others out between 1960ies and 1990ies.

I am just trying to paint a picture.

True, we did some really bad things to Albanians in Kosovo - no excuses - but, what am I supposed to tell a soldier whose complete family was killed by them and he has a rifle and 5 Albanians who just shot at him in his custody? Morality?! Human rights? Right to live?! There is no such thing in the Balkans. You can not give them what they wouldn't give to you - for if you do - there won't be you nor your family.

You see, we were not fighting in someone's other's land for someone's other's goals. We fought in our own land for the simple survival.

It is hard to talk about morality when you know that if you let them go, or spare their lives they will come back and kill you or kill yours - you would have to be stupid to let them go.

Not all moslems are bad people, but - you tell me who is and who isn't a potential enemy and I will spare their lifes.

How do you know?

On the bottom of everything - if you have a total war many innocent and good moslems will die - but, there is the predicament - do you wait for every single bad ones to show himself and for what cost.

It is a very hard thing to decide?

I personally think - that the experience has shown this to be true - you can not trust anyone - and time will come very soon when all these politically correct politicians will have to make a decision that Slobodan had to make in 1990ies.

For the record I was a memeber of Serbian Renewal Movement since 1991 and totally opposed to Socialist govt. But, hey I wasn't fighting for hammer and sickle, but for the cross - same cross that is being attacked as we speak.

You might not belive in God - but trust me, that matters none to a moslem - to him you either become a moslem or you die, you can cry that you are an atheist/capitalist/eskimo/marsian you will have to make a choice - islam or a knife.

It is simple as that.

You don't trust me - wait until its too late and you'll find out.

Morgaan wrote: “Here is the Balkans timeline…”

Yeah, we got it the first time you failed to cite the source of your unnecessary copy/paste here:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015235.php#c349005

For those who want to know where the timeline really came from:

http://www.crucibleofwar.com/1990on.htm

I guess they forgot to include Morgaan in the list of credits…In the future, the link will suffice. Thanks for stopping by.

-XRDC

Yes, after the prior fiasco a few weeks ago with Morgaan Sinclair, I simply ignore her posts, just as I have long ceased to read the posts of "Paolo" (though I haven't seen him post here in some time).

Serb friends

You have our support. Morgaan is an Islamo-suck-up troll, and her Sufi vs Wahabi argument (echoed by Steven Schwartz) is just another recycling of the Moderate Muslim taqiyya that we hear from the mainstream dhimmis. Bosnia and Albania can stew in their own excrement, but in the meantime, get the Russkies to send troops to Serbia, and do what you can to put together an agreement with Moscow that an attack on Serbia will be a declaration of war.

Then invade Kosovo, expel the Mohammedans (Sufi, Wahabi, whatever) and the NATO troops. Don't worry this time - the US is too busy sending its entire army to Iraq to worry even about Iran or Darfur, let alone Kosovo. Not to mention that the US can't go to war with Russia over Kosovo.

Also, Roughie is right - be explicitly clear that you are fighting back a Jihad.

i dont care if sufis are fighting wahabiis in kosovo they are the same shit at the end of the day sufis and wahabis still hate christians and belive in jihad and killing.

the albanians should be deported from kosovo and they should go back to albania where they originly came from kosovo does not belong to them it never has and never will the only reason they are there is because the serbs wanted to give them refuge from the communist in albania. but there real agenda was to make kosovo islamic and get rid of christians the KLA also have maps of making parts of greece greater albania and macedonia

Just another very insightful piece from the producers at CBN, the Christian Broadcasting Network, hosted by Pat Robertson.

Before some of you have a stroke over this bit of news, please realise that many spirit filled Christians receive great Wisdom from above, from God, WHEN they actually ask Him for such. WOW, what a concept! Actually asking God for something.

I know many know about CBN, but I think all might not know how much on target many Evangelicals Ministers are.

I liken this Wisdom to watching a parade. If you are at street level and a parade of a couple miles long is passing by, you can usually only see a couple of hundred feet of this parade. The bands, floats, etc. If you were in a tower that was a thousand feet tall you could see the entire parade from start to finish. ALL the floats, bands, etc.

We log on to J.W., read the posts, watch the MSM, read books and newspapers, and of our OWN intellegence we come to conclusions of what this "time line" parade of these end time events all mean. BTW, if this isnt the "last days" spoken of in the Bible, Its certainly "our" last days or last generation.

These "events" are happening at an increased rate all over the world and we are down here on the pavement trying the best we can to discern the totality of the entire "parade". Even with the recent increase of entries here on J.W., this is still a small fraction of whats happening on the whole planet, especially the hidden plots we dont have a clue about, but HE does.

HE is in His "tower" and thru His many Prophets over several thousand years, has outlined these events now taking place. HE has Prophets in the land today and they speak on a daily basis about what they are hearing encluding yours truly! I dont hear daily, but I DO hear. What I have heard from above, I humbly submit, seems to line up with others with a Prophetic anointing that I respect. This year of 2007 will be a very turbulent year with some things happening that will boggle the mind in their magnitude, ALONG WITH, a concurrent rise in the Glory of God being manifest in His Church.

As someone else posts from time to time------
God willing of course.

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mostert/070215

We've known what the Kosovo Albanians were about for a long time. And while Sinclair argues the relative value of the "Sufis over the Wahabbis", the fact is that Kosovo is being run by the Albanian Mafia, trafficking in drugs, guns, and sex slaves! And this is what you want to support?

Here's a little snippet of an article from Corriere della Sera (Milan) 15 October 1998, called "Albanian Mafia, This Is How It Helps The Kosovo Guerrilla Fighters":

Drugs, arms, and the Koran: Could this be the murderous crime mix of the next few years? "That is the picture that one can draw on the basis of our investigations," the ROS (Carbinierri Special Ops) agents maintain. "A few years ago the Milan drugs market was run by the Turks. They were unscrupulous traffickers who would go to any lengths to satisfy the 'Ndrangheta bosses. Then, in 1996, the torch passed to the Albanians without any bloodshed." They share the Islamic religion with their Turkish confreres. An unmistakable sign is the month of Ramadan: In those weeks the traffickers close down the drug market.

Morgan sinclair "I'm not a troll"

Then proceeds to troll a page of garbage that is nothing but propaganda from the headlines that justified the disgraceful bombings of the Serbs.

Give it up man!

Niv

mujo suleman sinclair--you are into timelines...here you go...a recent time line of your 'heroes' ---the 'pro american albanians" --that is, until they don't get what they demand..then they will kill and destory whatever they can....stick your timelines kid. Your heroes are alqueda backed scum.

February 11, 2007

Albanian demonstrators in Pristina chant slogans against Serbian Orthodox Church, demand destruction of churches

One of the key messages constantly broadcast over the megaphone during today's demonstrations in Pristina was that "the Serbs have occupied Albanian churches and monasteries where Albanians once prayed" and that "the Serbian Orthodox Church is asking for extraterritoriality for monasteries". The gathered demonstrators responded to these messages by periodically chanting "LET'S DESTROY THE CHURCHES . . . KLA, KLA, KLA".

Belgrade, August 10, 2006
EXCERPT FROM LETTER OF SANDA RASKOVIĆ-IVIĆ TO HEAD OF UNMIK

TWENTY MOST HEINOUS AND YET UNRESOLVED CRIMES COMMITTED AFTER THE ARRIVAL OF INTERNATIONAL PRESENCE IN KOSOVO AND METOHIJA

The list comprising these crimes was sent to UNMIK, together with a repeated request that the perpetrators are apprehended and brought to justice

The list of most heinous crimes committed against the Serbian population in Kosovo and Matohia following the arrival of internation civil and military presences, that remained unpunished to this day

The Results of Ethnical Cleansing in March 17th-19th 2004

· 8 Killed Serbs
· 143 Wounded Serbs
· Expelled Approximately 5,000 Serbs
· Torched 935 Homes Belonging to the Serb Owners
· Destroyed 10 Health and Education Facilities Belonging to Serbs
· Ethnically Cleansed Additional 6 Towns and 9 Villages
· Burnt Down Additional 35 Orthodox Religious Edifices (Churches and Monasteries)
· Desecrated Additional 3 Orthodox Cemeteries
1999

1 22 July 1999 - 14 Serbian villagers were killed in a field near the village Staro Gracko, municipality of Lipljan. Natives of this village confirmed that massacred bodies of the harvesters had been found. The following persons were killed: Аndrija Odalovic, brothers Radovan and Jovica Zivic, Novica Janicijevic and his father Momcilo, his uncle Mile and his cousin Slobodan Janicijevic, Bozidar and Stanimir Djekic, Sasa Cvejic, Ljubisa Cvejic, Miodrag Tepic, Nikola Stojanovic and Milovan Jovanovic. The international investigating authorities brought in four suspects of Albanian nationality, but after a while they were released.

2000

2 3 February 2000 – Near Cubrelj village, 15 kilometres southeast of Kosovska Mitrovica, an anti-tank guided missile was fired to a bus carrying a clear UNHCR sign with 49 persons of Serbian nationality in it. In this terrorist attack Plana Rajkovic from Banje village and Budimir Jovanovic from Rudnik village were killed, while five persons were seriously wounded. In the moment of the attack there were many women and children in the vehicle. The bus operated from northern Kosovska Mitrovica to the villages of Banje and Suvo Grlo and this line was used exclusively by the Serbs. The attacked vehicle was accompanied by KFOR.

3 3. February 2000 – A bomb explosion in Kosovska Mitrovica wounded about ten young men of Serbian nationality who were immediately transferred to a hospital. The attack occurred about nine o’clock p.m., when an explosive device was dropped to a catering establishment “Belami” in the northern part of Kosovska Mitrovica, where a bigger group of young people stayed. As in previous bombing attacks, the attackers ran away from the spot. This act of terrorism caused a revolt of citizens who gathered in a large number first in front of the hospital entrance and than in the hospital area.

4 8 March 2000 – In a series of terrorist attacks in a settlement called Bosnjacka Mahala in the northern Kosovska Mitrovica 22 Serbs and 14 members of KFOR French forces, one of which was an officer, suffered from severe or lighter wounds. The attacks started some time before noon and lasted almost for two hours. During that time several bombs were dropped and light and heavy weapons were used to attack a group of Serbs, mostly high school students. The attack was initiated by Albanian Ljuan Miftari, who rushed with a metal rod at Serbian young men without any reason. After that a fire was opened at Serbs from a nearby Albanian house called Kratez. The attack continued with bombs. All this happened in sight of KFOR members of German contingent who did nothing about it. French soldiers tried to protect Serbs by forming a cordon, but two bombs were also thrown at them. Later on it was announced that four Albanians were arrested on reasonable suspicion of participating in these terrorist attacks, but no information can be found on their conviction for such acts.

2001

5 17 February 2001 – near Livadice village, municipality of Podujevo, a planted bomb blew apart a bus of the company Nis-express causing death of 11 Serbs (two of which were children) and wounding 40 people. The bus with number plate NI 117-61 was accompanied by KFOR in a convoy of vehicles transferring 250 Serbs towards Gracanica. Despite the arrest of several suspects after the investigation, they were all released except Florim Ejupi who was found directly connected to Albanian organized crime and circles of former OVK (Kosovo Liberation Army). For the “safety reasons” Ejupi was transferred to American military camp “Bondsteel”, out of where he managed to escape after a while. This tragic day for Serbs from Kosovo could have been even more tragic. On the other side of Kosovo the Ukrainian KFOR soldiers stopped near Rudar a convoy of Serbs who were travelling for Strpce. The convoy was stopped and returned because six teleguided explosive devices were discovered on the road and dismantled.

2003

6 4 June 2003 – A three-member family Stolic, natives of Obilic, were killed in their village. Slobodan and Radmila Stolic (80 years of age both) and their son Ljubinko (50 years of age) were killed. Having killed them the assailants massacred their bodies and set their house on fire. Although UNMIK chief Michael Steiner offered 50,000 Euros for information which would enable the arrest of the committers, the investigation ended up without a result.

7 11 August 2003 - Dragan Tonic (45) from Skulanevo in the municipality of Lipljan deceased today having suffered wounding in the head. Two unidentified assailants shot Tonic in his mouth while he was fishing on the River Sitnica in the late afternoon. Tonic was given first aid in Kosovska Mitrovica where he was operated. Due to a critical condition he was transferred to Belgrade on 13 August for further treatment, but despite all efforts made by doctors he succumbed to his wounds. Ever since the international forces came to Skulanevo near Lipljan, where 350 Serbs live, Dragan Tonic is the third victim, while five persons have been wounded, three of them children. None of the committers of these murders was ever found.

8 13 August 2003 - unknown persons opened fire from automatic weapon on Serbian children who were having a swim in the River Bistrica in the village Gorazdevac near Pec. Pantelija Dakic (10) and Ivan Jovovic (19) were killed in the assault, while Bogdan Bukumiric (15), Dragana Srbljak (14), Djordje Ugrenovic (20) and Marko Bogicevic (15) were injured. As in previous cases when victims were Serbs, the investigation showed no results and the committers of this terrorist crime were not found.

9 31 August 2003 – In a bombing attack on a shop owned by a Serb in Cernica near Gnjilane, Miomir Savic was killed, and Bosko Dinic, Milos Petrovic, Novica Trifunovic and Ljubisa Simic suffered light wounds. Savic, who got killed and the wounded inhabitants of Cernica were sitting in front of the village shop in the Serbian part of the village when a bomb was thrown at them.

2004

10 9 February 2004 – In a terrorist attack near Lipljane Zlatomir Kostic (36) from Kosovo Polje and Milijana Markovic (24) from Staro Gracko were killed. Their bodies were found near a fire station, on the outskirts of the town. According to investigating authorities’ statement they were killed on a transit road while being in Kostic’s car. They were ambushed near the fire station in Lipljane.

11 17 March 2004 – Father and son Stolic were shot on the very doorstep of their home in Drajkovce, a village in the municipality of Strpce, where they lived after the exile from Urosevac. D. Stolic (1955) and B. Stolic (1984) lived in the village bordering on the neighbour Albanian villages.

2005

12 27 August 2005 – In the terrorist attack to a bus on the line Belgrade – Strpce, near Albanian villages Firaja and Brod, Staja Ilic from Strpce was shot to death by a fire-arm. A sharp bursts of machine gun fire directed to the bus caused severe wounds to Radoslav Dabic, a refugee from Urosevac, Dragan Veljkovic from Stpce and one more person.

13 29 August 2005 Young men Ivan Dejanovic and Aleksandar Stankovic from Novo Naselje near Lipljane got killed, and Aleksandar Janicijevic and Nikola Dukic wounded in an armed assault in Banjica, on the road Urosevac – Strpce in Kosovo, which occurred late Saturday night. About nine o’clock p.m. four young men took a car, “golf” model, with a number plate from Pristina, and went from Lipljane to Strbac. They noticed that they were followed by a “Mercedes”. Then, near the village Banjica, the four Serbs heard a shot and that they had a flat tyre. When they pulled over to change the tyre, the fire opened once more from the “Mercedes”, which was still following them. Dejanovic and Stankovic were shot to death, and Janicijevic and Dukic were wounded. The attackers ran away from the spot.

14 26 October 2005 – On the road Urosevac – Strpce, near the place called Doganovic, a fire was opened at a vehicle of Kosovo police. The armed assault begun around 20.00, but neither of three police officers from the vehicle was hurt. Although the vehicle received several shots, the driver managed to continue towards Strpce, where the vehicle was examined. These were Serbian policemen in their service vehicle returning from their duty on the border crossing “Djeneral Jankovic” towards Macedonia. It was the second assault on policemen of Serbian nationality in last month and a half on the road from Urosevac to Strpce. One Serbian policeman was wounded in a previous assault near the village Brod in the municipality of Strpce.

15 11 November 2005 at 01.25 in the village Suvi Do, municipality of Kosovska Mitrovica, an unknown person of Albanian nationality opened fire on Ilija Petronijevic. About 01.20 Petronijevic heard some movements around his house, so he turned on the light in his courtyard, got out and spotted an unknown Albanian who, having seen Petronijevic shouted something in Albanian and started running towards Ibar River. Afterwards, several unidentified persons fired about 15 shots from an automatic rifle in short bursts and 5-6 shots from a pistol, and went away towards a nearby Albanian village on Ibar River.

16 26 December 2005 around 01.30 in Kosovska Mitrovica – northern part of the town- in John Kennedy Street, in the courtyard of “Branko Radicevic” primary school, where containers and mechanization of a public enterprise “Vodovod” were, a John Doe performed an armed assault on Branislav Antovic, son of Ratomir, from Kosovska Mitrovica (security officer). During the assault John Doe fired four shots from a fire-arm – 7.62 mm pistol, of which two shots hit Antovic in his abdomen. He was transferred to a hospital in Kosovska Mitrovica where doctors concluded injuries of liver and large intestine. Antovic was operated, but the wounds put his life in jeopardize. Four 7.62 mm cases were found on the spot.

17 2. December 2005. About 19.00 in the village Malo Rudare, municipality of Zvecan, unknown persons dropped an explosive device (most probably hand-grenade) on the houses owned by Vlado Antanasijevic and Djura Markovic. The attackers approached the houses from the main road Kosovska Mitrovica – Zvecan, which was 40 metres away from the houses. That is the spot they threw the explosive device from, which fell in the courtyard of Vlado Antanasijevic’s house. The explosion made a smaller crater and shrapnel broke one window on the front side of the house and made damage to the façade. The owners of the houses spotted a vehicle which went away after the attack towards the village Lipa, municipality of Zvecan, inhabited by Albanian people.

2006.

18 12 March 2006 - About 20.45 in Klina, Drina Bard Street, an explosion occurred in the courtyard of an empty house owned by Branko M. Mazic. In the moment of the explosion the owner was in a bedroom of the other house. The incident was reported to UNMIK police on 13 March 2006. According to eyewitnesses’ statements, two windows on the house where nobody lived were broken in the explosion. A police patrol with a forensic unit made on-the-spot investigation. A detonator needle wrapped in a tape was found in the courtyard where the device exploded.

19 1 June 2006 - About 02.30 Miljan Veskovic, a Serb from Zitkovac, was killed on a local road Zvecane - Zitkovac. On that local road the unknown committers made an improvised road block made of broken branches, and when Veskovic stopped his vehicle in front of it, a fire from automatic rifles was opened.

20 27 July 2006. - About 23.45 in Dragas, municipality of Gora, an explosive device was placed and activated by unknown persons in front of the entrance door of a family house of a hillman Rustem Agus, son of Ramiz, born on 13 December 1955 in Dragas, residing in Belgrade. In the time of the explosion no persons were harmed, but the house was severely damaged. In the house of Agus Rustem there was another explosive device placed two years before also by unknown persons.

Mujo Suliman...where are the Jews of Kosovo?

Replacing last of Kosovo deported Jews
Sunday, October 22nd, 2006
As the Serbian army began its retreat from Kosovo in June 1999, armed Muslim gunmen of the terrorist Albanian organization, KLA, went door to door searching for non Albanians to either kill if they are a Serb, or to expel out of the province if Jew or otherwise.

On June 26, 1999 the last of the 13 remaining Kosovo Jews were rounded up by the Muslim Albanians and deported to Skopje. Once there, these deported Kosovo Jews told the JDC’s Eliezri that the Albanian military busted into their apartments and drove them out at a gunpoint.

Since the expulsion of the last of Kosovo Jews, Muslims of that province became hosts to the Wahabis and other Islamic extremist sects that are relentlessly building masques across the province and recruiting local Muslim Albanians by the droves. Saudis, Kuwaitis and others have built mosques to supply the surging pious among Kosovo Albanians.

“It is hard to talk about morality when you know that if you let them go, or spare their lives they will come back and kill you or kill yours - you would have to be stupid to let them go.

Not all moslems are bad people, but - you tell me who is and who isn't a potential enemy and I will spare their lifes.

…

I personally think - that the experience has shown this to be true - you can not trust anyone - and time will come very soon when all these politically correct politicians will have to make a decision that Slobodan had to make in 1990ies.”
xristos.anesti

I’m glad we have veterans here that can give us first-hand accounts of what civil conflicts with non-citizens are really like. It is a cruel and unpleasant reality that should be scorched into everyone’s brain. Every measure should be taken to prevent the formation of such conflicts. Truly, in such conflicts, nothing is sacred except faith and family.

If you don’t know where we might be heading, the above says it clearly.

CNN's Christiane Amanpour is a Muslim! Boy have I been fooled.

Morgan sinclair, that's the funniest pile of poopy plops i've read in years.....

My my , Morgan , ole bean , you forgot to mention

a) of links between the KLA and Al Qaeda

b) that the Catholic Kosovo Albanians were regarded as "loyal Albanians" by the Serb forces , and that the vast majority of KLA victims in the year leading up to NATO bombing were , erm , these very same LOYALIST KOSOVO ALBANIANS . Almost 200 from 1998 to early 1999

c) Berisha , the guy who let the Egyptian Islamic Jihad settle into Albania is back as leader of that highly developed country .

d) ICTY couldn't find a single ( yes , A SINGLE ) Kosovo Albanian who testified that they were forced out of Albania by Serb forces . NOT A SINGLE ONE

e) KLA commanders have recently testified at the Hauge that they did indeed order Kosovo Albanians out of Kosovo .

f) EVERY minority in Kosovo supported the Serbs . EVERYONE . the ethnic Croats , Rom , ethnic Macedonians , ethnic Egyptians , ethnic Turks , Goranis , the Jews , etc .

Why was that ? Why did the KLA come to the Rambouillet talks with ONLY ethnic Albanians in tow ? The Serb delegation came to the talks with ethnic Macedonians , ethnic Turks , ethnic Egyptians , Catholic Kosovo Albanians , Rom , etc on their team .

Naughty naughty Morgan , your supporters seem to be a bunch of violent racists with links to Al Qaeda .

Naughty Morgan , the racists apologist for hire

Dear All
Can anyone give me some information on the 'Grand Mufti of Bosnia – Dr Mustafa Ceric' who is visiting Sydney Austaria next month. There are Two (supposedly moderate Islamic) groups promoting him. From what I can find out on the net he is not a mr nice guy!
'xristos.anesti' Do you live in Sydney? If so I would love to have a chat with you. I would like to understand the situation past and present in the Balkans better than I do. my email address is terryzterryz at hotmail so please drop me an email.
Also, if anyone reading this can recommend an outstanding book on the Balkans please do!
Kind regards,
Terry.

Terry mate, unfortunatelly I am not in the blue state but in the maroon one - where the sun shines.

:-)