Emails show sailor's support for jihad while still on active duty

Only muslims who can spy for Islam can be in service.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=3885&ln=eng&txt=secrets

Click on the link above and this is what you get:

"Question:
What is the ruling on Muslims serving in the military of non muslim country ? What is the evidence for its permissibility or prohibition?
And lastly, what is the status of a Muslim working to help those in the military to fulfill their obligations to Allaah while serving in the Army, Navy, or whatever?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

We put this question to Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen, may Allaah preserve him, who answered as follows:

“Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds. Military matters are problematic, because they involve helping these kuffaar to wage war against the Muslims or those who have entered into a treaty with the Muslims. If no such thing is involved, it may be advantageous for Muslims to work in these armies so as to learn their secrets and be aware of their potential evil. In other words, if working in these armies could be of benefit, it may be permissible, otherwise it is not allowed.”

On this basis, if a person works as a preacher or daa’iyah or imaam or muezzin, serving the Muslims and calling non-Muslims to Islam, then there is nothing wrong with this."

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

like i said earlier allow him the pleasure of his sharia law delievered by the infedels hands.try him now and hang him tomorrow.

Hopefully his e-mails were not only a reminder to his brothers and sisters behind enemy lines but to our Military and poltical leaders as well.

Well one out of two aint bad.Our leaders are probably 'steadfast' in the belief that he is one of the minority 'radicals'

Up monsters,rise.

And all that jazz.

the solution is simple: No Muslims in the military! If Islam is the enemy, why do we infiltrate our armed forces with Muslims?

Sorry if it's been pointed out a hundred times already but his name Abujihaad I think means "father of jihad". I suppose this is his real name, but perhaps he's a convert and chose it. Not a smart one if the latter.

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=3478&ln=eng&txt=army

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=6484&ln=eng&txt=flag

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=8797&ln=eng&txt=flag

I trust that you are doing your best to make sure that the other brothers and sisters in uniform are reminder that their sole purpose of existence in this Dunya [this world/this life] and is purely to worship our Lord and master, Allah."

God only knows how many "brothers and sisters" in uniform are sabotaging missions and committing treason right now. Oh well, it wouldn't be politically correct to even consider such a threat; let's just wait until their diabolical deeds are accomplished and then we'll arrest them and tell the world that another member of the muslim radical minority has been caught redhanded again. This will be followed by the same hackneyed cliches we've been hearing for over five years, the ones that make my ears ring and trigger my gag reflex.

I don't know what makes me feel safer-- muslim Arabic translators at the F.B.I., muslims in the U.S. military, or muslims in the Department of Homeland Security. Why do we even bother with a "war on terror" when we invite our enemies to infiltrate our country via our unprotected borders, and every level of our government and military?

But of course(!) all the directives to not serve the country which provides you with a home and livelihood are not representative of Islam.

Remember the army officer who threw a grenade into his commanders' tent.

Another (un)Islamic act?

In a pig's eye!!

God only knows how many "brothers and sisters" in uniform are sabotaging missions and committing treason right now.

These Muslims that we trust so much in the military are busy stealing and spying. Especially in Iraq with all those good Iraqi people. Remember all those massacres of Iraqi recruits and personals? They were all accomplished by our trusty Iraqi insiders. A Sunni Iraqi would spy to benefit his group while a shitte would spy for his group. And our army would be left scratching their heads why these people can't get along.
Meanwhile open wallets wide to pay more and more to for this moneypit/hellhole called Iraq.

“Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds.
Only muslims who can spy for Islam can be in service.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=3885&ln=eng&txt=secrets

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at March 8, 2007 09:40 PM

Further.........

"Military matters are problematic, because they involve helping these kuffaar to wage war against the Muslims or those who have entered into a treaty with the Muslims. If no such thing is involved, it may be advantageous for Muslims to work in these armies so as to learn their secrets and be aware of their potential evil. In other words, if working in these armies could be of benefit, it may be permissible, otherwise it is not allowed.”

On this basis, if a person works as a preacher or daa’iyah or imaam or muezzin, serving the Muslims and calling non-Muslims to Islam, then there is nothing wrong with this.

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

SusanP wrote:
"God only knows how many "brothers and sisters" in uniform are sabotaging missions and committing treason right now. Oh well, it wouldn't be politically correct to even consider such a threat; let's just wait until their diabolical deeds are accomplished and then we'll arrest them and tell the world that another member of the muslim radical minority has been caught redhanded again. This will be followed by the same hackneyed cliches we've been hearing for over five years, the ones that make my ears ring and trigger my gag reflex."

Quoted For Emphasis

Well put SusanP. Your frustration, quite similar to mine, is duly noted. The gentle yet consistent tap on the shoulder does not seem to be registering.

The overtly diabolical threat of Islam pales in comparison to the latent, yet quite effective, malaise of PC multiculturalism that the West is currently afflicted with, the disease that continues to sustain that atrocious belief system, an ideology born of a morally flawed man.

Enough with the pleasantries already.

I find it somewhat disgusting that this slime ball was serving on one our most advanced ships in the Navy's arsonal.

Ironically this Arleigh Burke Aegis class Missile Frigate which represents the the modern era Destroyer in the tradition, and speed of the Flethcher Class destroyers of WWII was only 2 months behind the USS Cole DDG 67 on delivery to the US Navy. The USS Benfold DDG 65 and the USS Cole were both built by Ingalls Ship building 2 months apart.

Another words; here we had another potential Muslim threat aboard the same exact ship (USS Cole) that suffered the loss of 17 navy personal by Muslim Jihadists.

Are military better take a serious look at their Muslim serviceman, we don't need another USS Cole based on being multiculturally sensitive--

PC be damned!.

Grab a rope.

Every single link given in the postings above by KAOSKTRL should be looked at carefully.

The effect is greater if you read them at the site itself.

For those, however, who simply will not do so,
here is another that relates to working in the army of an Infidel nation:

"Working in the army of a country in which there are munkaraat (haraam deeds)

Question:
Please tell me about the ruling on one who works for the army, which is the source of his provision, but the military system and laws oblige him to shave his beard and some of them have to respect others, as the foreigners do. We have to greet others in a manner different from that enjoined upon us by Allaah and His Messenger, we have to salute the flag and we are governed by and have to refer differences amongst ourselves to laws other than those of Allaah (military law). If I fight to defend my country, but it is not under the banner of Laa ilaah ill-Allaah Muhammad Rasool Allaah [There is no god but Allaah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allaah], and by the will of Allaah I am killed, what is the ruling on me according to the Qur’aan and Sunnah?

Can I fight with an intention that is different to that of the army in whose ranks I am fighting? If I do the things mentioned above so as to avoid any negative consequences, am I sinning by doing that? Can a Muslim work in the army with the intention of learning fighting skills which he cannot learn anywhere else under current circumstances?

Please tell me about obedience to parents in this matter, when points of view differ in a case where the parents do not follow the Qur’aan and Sunnah, but they follow the traditions of society and whatever people are agreed upon. They think that religion is just prayer and fasting, and that anything beyond that is extremism. May Allaah help you to do that which pleases Him, correct your mistakes and protect you.

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly: it is haraam to shave the beard; it is obligatory (waajib) to leave it to grow.

Secondly: it is not permissible to salute the flag.

Thirdly: it is obligatory (waajib) to govern by the sharee’ah of Islam, and to refer to it for judgement. It is not permissible for a Muslim to greet colleagues or superiors with the greeting of the foreigners, because of the reports which state that it is forbidden to imitate them and because this represents exaggerated respect for them.

Fourthly: Whoever fights to make the word of Allaah supreme and to protect the Muslims and their lands from the enemy, is fighting for the sake of Allaah, and if he is killed he is a shaheed (martyr). What counts is the aim and intention. You can have an intention which is different from the intention of the army, such as intending to make the word of Allaah supreme in your jihaad (so long as it is permissible, according to sharee’ah, to fight the group against whom you are fighting), even if others have different intentions, such as fighting for their country.

Fifthly: it is obligatory (waajib) to obey your parents so long as this does not entail disobeying Allaah, because there should be no obedience to any created being if it involves disobedience of the Creator.

And Allaah is the source of strength. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions, and grant them peace."

Fataawaa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 12/22

And another of those to which the link is given above:

"Why is it not permissible to stand to salute the flag?

Question:
why dont muslims stand for the flag salute?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Veneration is something that is due only to the Lord, may He be glorified and exalted, and the created being should not humble himself before anyone except the Creator, may He be glorified and exalted. And Allaah knows best."

Written by al-Khudayri

And the third link (read to the end, for it is only there that one will see clearly what the judgment, given in convoluted and confused fashion before, in fact is):

"Muslim working as a doctor in the kaafir army

Question:
What is the ruling on working as a doctor in the army of the kuffaar who are not in a state of war with the Muslims?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

We put this question to Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen, may Allaah preserve him, with whom we had a conversation which is summarized below:

Shaykh: “Is this so that he may gain experience, or what?”

- “He is a doctor who is treating their sick, but they are not in a state of war.”

Shaykh: “And they are not at war with the Muslims?”

- “It is possible that they may be at war with the Muslims in the future.”

Shaykh: “We do not give the future precedence over the present (i.e., we do not count on that or take it into consideration).”

- “This questioner says, 'I work in a place where the soldiers are not fighting the Muslims. But it is possible that some of the army may be fighting them in other places, and it is possible that we may be involved in such fighting in the future, but the military bases where I work now are not involved in fighting against the Muslims.’”

Shaykh: “But is this nation (in which this army is) one of those who are fighting the Muslims?”

- “The questioner is working for the American army, he is a Muslim working in America.”

Shaykh: “Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Allaah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allaah loves those who deal with equity.’ [al-Mumtahinah 60:8].”

- “And what if they are not driving us out of our homes, but they are helping others to do so, as mentioned in the next aayah?”

Shaykh: “ ‘It is only as regards those who fought you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allaah forbids you to befriend them…’ [al-Mumtahinah 60:9 – interpretation of the meaning].”

- “So if it is clear to him that these people are helping to drive us out of our homes, for example, would working for them for a salary come under the just and kind treatment mentioned in the aayah?”

Shaykh: “No doubt it does come under that heading.”

- “Even if you are working for money and not as a volunteer?”

Shaykh: “Yes, but they are benefitting from it.”

- “So how may we sum up your answer?”

Shaykh: “This is not permissible unless the nation in whose army he is working is not fighting the Muslims.”

- “And not driving them out of their homes or helping others to do so?”

Shaykh: “Yes.”

And Allaah knows best."

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

"the solution is simple: No Muslims in the military! If Islam is the enemy, why do we infiltrate our armed forces with Muslims?"

Every American that has a loved one in the Military should be furious at the political leadership of this country.

What right do they have to jeopardize the life of someone's son, husband or brother, just so they can avoid offending Muslims, here and abroad?
It can't be ignorance that motivates these political leaders -- unless it's willful ignorance. There's too much evidence to the contrary to believe that Practicing Muslims can be loyal to the United States of America.

Any soldier that is sent on a patrol in a combat situation with a Muslim soldier as his backup is in mortal danger of being shot in the back. We've already seen this with the death of two soldiers in the 101st airborn division when a Muslim member of the division tossed a grenade into their tent.

The arrest of this sailor is just another example of the level of loyality we can expect of Muslims in our armed forces. What carnage could he have caused aboard his ship had he decided to die a Martyr for his fictional Allah?

It's bad enough that our soldiers have to die in combat fighting our countries enemies, but thay should not have to die because of the politically correct stupidity of our political leaders.

Grab a rope.

Posted by: pez

I've got a fine hanging tree.

KAOSKTRL, great stuff! I initially thought it was Mufti Ebrahim Desai, but looks like you've found another star.

The good thing about these rulings is that a Muslim can either do what's waajib re: their beard, in which case they don't get to join in the first place; downside is when they violate it, and secretly resent it, leading to actions like Hasan Akbar and Hassan Abujihaad.

I wonder how many in the US military and military intelligence know of these facts? In fact, I doubt that they'll block them even if they knew.

Like Susanp said, "I don't know what makes me feel safer-- muslim Arabic translators at the F.B.I., muslims in the U.S. military, or muslims in the Department of Homeland Security. Why do we even bother with a "war on terror" when we invite our enemies to infiltrate our country via our unprotected borders, and every level of our government and military?"

At least the Greeks needed the Trojan horse.

What a worthless slimeball. He's happy over the fact that "American officials are running around like headless chickens, very afraid of a possible threat", and then he closes his letter with his love and worship of Allah his Lord.

How sick and twisted is that!

Islam = serving Satan = hell bound

An additional hurdle presents itself after we have clicked on KAOSKTRL's link and found all the damning passages: were we to show those passages to people not as clear-eyed as we are, how would we persuade them to consider the passages as representative of a larger problem than merely a "small minority of extremists"? An all-too common tendency persists out there, of taking, upon receipt, such information as exists in that link and immediately categorizing it in the "Small Minority of Extremists" pigeonhole.

How could we show convincingly that this would be a mistake?

The government and military often like to make examples of people enough to stop others. what will they do with this muslim? lets wait and see.

AbuJihaad - father of Jihad. Ah it must have been the double "aa" in Jihad that fooled the military into letting this Jihadi into the ranks.

Oh well. Lets hope they have learnt a lesson or else we will be hearing of a soldier or marine Osaama binLaaden having links with al Qaeda.

The official policy at this moment, in the UK atleast, is not just to allow Muslims into the military but one that is actively encouraging and assisting Muslims into the military.

"“Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds. Military matters are problematic, because they involve helping these kuffaar to wage war against the Muslims or those who have entered into a treaty with the Muslims. If no such thing is involved, it may be advantageous for Muslims to work in these armies “Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds. Military matters are problematic, because they involve helping these kuffaar to wage war against the Muslims or those who have entered into a treaty with the Muslims. If no such thing is involved, it may be advantageous for Muslims to work in these armies so as to learn their secrets and be aware of their potential evil. In other words, if working in these armies could be of benefit, it may be permissible, otherwise it is not allowed.”

....hmmm..."“it may be advantageous for Muslims to work in these armies so as to learn their secrets .....

...THis is not the first incident in the Military where a Muslim as betrayed America and his fellow soldiers....

.....As I research more and more, I find it quite likely that Muslims, no matter what station in life they find themselves, consider themselves Muslims first and whatever second...with this thought in my head, I would consider not having Muslims in the military or police services or any other service of public trust....

....Do you want the soldiers to be required to guard their fellow soldiers?...Do you place Muslim soldiers on duties such as watching grass grow....I am sure Muslims could be good soldiers or am I?....

.....Maybe we should apply Shaira law to this fellow since he a Muslim, surely he could not object to his own law...Traitors are usually beheaded for treason....makes sense to me..

Ban all Muslims from the military services. Just the single fact that Islam condones taqiyya justifies such a move. How many more of our brave warriors must perish at the hands of these treasonous slimeballs, before the top brass does something about this? Muslims must be treated just like Nazi sympathizers were during World War II.

I sent the link to John Gibson at FNC, let's see if it gets any exposure to sunlight.

If Islam is the enemy, why do we infiltrate our armed forces with Muslims?

Islam is not the enemy, terrorism is. A tiny minority of extremists who highjacked one of the world's great religions is.

C'mon, Resistance, be a sport and just play along and pretend.

Try him swiftly. Hang him speedily.

Moral of the story: Treason convicts and Islam gets you killed.

If Islam is the enemy, why do we infiltrate our armed forces with Muslims?

Because it suits the globalists.

Meanwhile, we have plenty of persecuted Christians in Iraq, Egypt, and elsewhere in the Arab world who would be very happy to translate for us, and meanwhile would have no sense of duty toward the Ummah

I wouldn't want to be a muslim turn-coat with a C-O behind my back; "ya just can't pick-up all those itty bitty brains off the wall and put-em back into your head fast enough ?"