In "Condi's embrace of jihadist 'peace,'" Caroline Glick discusses the activity of our appeasement-minded Secretary of State in light of Iran's kidnapping of British sailors:
...AGAINST THIS backdrop, and given the stakes involved, it could have been expected that the US and its allies would be concentrating their attention on how to weaken Iran and its terror proxies and curtail Iran's ability to acquire a nuclear arsenal. But, alas, the US is doing just the opposite.The Iranians acted as US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was en route to the region. Since Friday, Rice has shuttled between Egypt, Israel, the Palestinian Authority and Jordan, and is on her way to Saudi Arabia. She is not working to coordinate moves to check Iran's increasing bellicosity. Rather, Rice is laboring to empower Teheran's terrorist allies in Hamas, the Islamic Jihad and Fatah. This she does by promoting the so-called Arab peace plan, which demands that Israel agree to dangerous and strategically catastrophic concessions to the Palestinian terrorist government.
In behaving thus, Rice is walking in the well-worn footsteps of her predecessors. Indeed, it seems almost axiomatic that when the going gets tough for US administrations, administration officials get tough on Israel.
Read it all.
I've come to the conclusion that ultimately we'll have no peace until the Religion of Peace© is in pieces.
Rice needs to be sacked. It's that simple.
With the dropping of the A-bomb in Japan a new era in history was introduced, i.e., the era of automation. Automation here means that with the push of a button human life as we know it could become extinct. This is a danger never to be forgotten and has colored American response to foreign provocation ever since. Keep this in mind when criticizing Bush. Bush is certainly not eloquent nor charistmatic but he is doing the correct thing in Iraq and with regards to Islam. Personally, I abhor anything Islamic, but my feelings are mine alone. I am neither responsible for another's thoughts nor do I care what they think of me.
What I am saying is that Islam as represented by the Iraqi people has a chance now to come into the modern world. If they blow it by either our precipitous withdrawal or their government is hijacked by some sectarian group after a democratic government has been established, we as a member of the Anglosphere have tried. The next time we go in it could be at the behest of the "more rubble, less trouble" crowd which is waiting in the wings. Certainly a nuke on Jerusalem could produce such a response.
The Left in this country has always been with us and is just plain stupid. They do not read history nor care about it. I assume they are either dishonest, crazy of stupid, or all of the above. For the interim, just having the U.S. military over there with rifles killing Muslims is a good thing. At least they know that some of us are not afraid of them. What we need in regard to the treatment of Islam is ruthlessness. Condi Rice's efforts are the velvet glove on the mailed fist. If the Muslims who are as historically ignorant as is possible, understood this, they would go back into their caves.
My thoughts in this whole matter come from much reading of Victor Hanson, Andrew Roberts, and Winston Churchill. Mark Steyn is also another favorite of mine, especially "America Alone."
Beware of perfectionism! It is satanic in origin and a natural byproduct of affluence.
My guess is that Condi is setting up a deference to the new Saudi plan to regain its pre-eminence in the region (countering) Iran. No matter what the Saudis are promising Condi, it's not going to be beneficial to us, only to them. EXCEPT that I think the royal family are looking for a place to settle if the bottom falls out of oil (say with switchgrass ethanol) or they lose the battle with Al Qaeda in the Kingdom. Then I think you'll see the whole Saudi royal family as citizens of the USA, in which they will expect to play a prominent role. I think that's in part why they have spent so much money on trying to make Islam in America strongly Wahhabi.
It's good to remember that it's the coiled snake that can strike fastest.
She is not working to coordinate moves to check Iran's increasing bellicosity. Rather, Rice is laboring to empower Teheran's terrorist allies in Hamas, the Islamic Jihad and Fatah. This she does by promoting the so-called Arab peace plan, which demands that Israel agree to dangerous and strategically catastrophic concessions to the Palestinian terrorist government
Duhh! You mean, this is a new discovery? Shocking! Simply shocking!
Good gawd, when will you people wake up!
Arguably the simple point that Caroline makes over and over again in the article is that you cannot broker a peace plan in any manner with the Palestinians or Muslim Arab states without paying a serious price for it. Another words,no peace plan has ever worked between Israel and the Palestinians no matter what concessions are put forward.
Dr. Rice is one of those people whose resume looks great and who sounds capable and articulate on Sunday morning talk shows. Yet, as time goes by, it is clear what she really is, another empty suit. Unfortunately for the rest of us, Washington D. C. is full of people just like her. Yet the Bush administration let go John Bolton without a fight, one of the few people in that town who is not an empty suit.
three worthless words------Arab Peace Plan....
Before criticizing Condeleeza, one must keep in mind that she is just trying to empower the future Founding Fathers of the modern Muslim community. The Framers went through the same process. We all have our struggles. They just need to be nurtured, and she’s making progress. There are very positive signs.
Ahmedinejad is the best thing since Eisenhower.
Oh, I forgot. The Iranian people are a wonderful people, with a rich cultural heritage.
"Ahmedinejad is the best thing since Eisenhower"
...are you talking about Ralph Eisenhower, the pig farmer in Twoleg Louisana?.....
If Ralph Eisenhower has the intestinal fortitude to slap the western conscious with a big, bloody pork loin and wake us up, he’d be a contender.
Morgaan Sinclair 10:07 AM:
"...the royal family are looking for a place to settle if the bottom falls out of oil..."
Good to see others also seeing this long term plan by the enemies of civilization. Also - some studies claim that desert oil wells will run dry in next 20-30 years. So another good reason for the "royal family" to find a new home.
"...(or) lose the battle with Al Qaeda in the Kingdom."
Perhaps this is the true purpose of the supposed international gang of "extremists" -paving the way for the departure of the largest/wealthiest and most uncivilized families on earth - so it will be a "smooth transition" to whereever these barbarians end up.
"Then I think you'll see the whole Saudi royal family as citizens of the USA, in which they will expect to play a prominent role. I think that's in part why they have spent so much money on trying to make Islam in America strongly Wahhabi."
Right on the riyal - er, money. Only organize and lobby for halting their entrance to USA forever.
Surely all their innovative ideas in philosophy, culture, technology, science, industry, etc will make valuable contributions and be welcome anywhere else - but the USA.
Before criticizing Condeleeza, one must keep in mind that she is just trying to empower the future Founding Fathers of the modern Muslim community.
True. But, I don't care about the modern Muslim community. I care about keeping the USA a free Republic -- without muslims. Period!
The Framers went through the same process. We all have our struggles.
Yes, I've watched the framers try to install a door once. Very sad show indeed. They proceed to break a couple of windows too. I fired them all.
They just need to be nurtured, and she’s making progress. There are very positive signs.
They need a kick in the rear end. So does she!
Some moves from the British governement ref: 15 kidnapped sailors. Very small and pathetic moves mind you.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6498611.stm
The British and especially the Labor government should be ashamed of themselves for leaving these 15 men and women to be hung out to dry.
Where is the decleration of war, that such an act warrents?
Wake us up to what Pez?
Something like this (from km’s link):
Britain's former ambassador to Iran, Sir Richard Dalton, said "different phase" could mean generating pressure on Iran from the international community.
Compare and contrast with:
4:56 Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.
Flood of sewage in Gaza Strip village kills at least four people
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/842574.html
Rice should be careful, this is proof positive that the “Palestinians” are full of it!
The Stepford wives are well dressed, well spoken, well mannered and as hollow as a well shaft.
"Dr. Rice is one of those people whose resume looks great and who sounds capable and articulate on Sunday morning talk shows. Yet, as time goes by, it is clear what she really is, another empty suit. Unfortunately for the rest of us, Washington D. C. is full of people just like her. Yet the Bush administration let go John Bolton without a fight, one of the few people in that town who is not an empty suit." maryrose
Spot on. I never liked Dr. Rice. She is just another one of those empty suits who has not read Qur'an, Hadith Bukhari, Hadith Muslim, or the Sira. She is out of her depth here and does not understand the nature of this enemy. Caroline Glick's article is excellent in exposing the recent history of appeasement and betrayal on the part of our elites.
Carolyn Glick is a genius IMHP with far more cahones than anyone in the Israeli government, or the US government, for that matter. She is probably the most knowledgeable geopolitical analyst for the Middle East. The people of Israel should make her their prime minister - she would be another Maggie Thatcher or a Golda Mier.
If the Israelis do not want her in their government, I know a good place for her at Foggy Bottom that would involve Ms. Rice's departure. American citizenship not required!
Glick is among a great tribe of Amazon-like women analysts who are sounding the warning to the West. women like Melanie Phillips, Michelle Malkin, Diana West, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Rita Katz, Rachel Ehrenfeld, and many others including many who have left Islam. It would be great to get people like this in positions of power throughout the West. There are guys of course that are equally qualified - my point is the West needs knowledgeable doers in our governments, and by and large we do not have them. The cream of the crop are in think tanks or writing articles. We need to get their leadership-ability, their cahones, their penetrating knowledge of Islam and its threat to the West into our respective governments.
Our lost Oriana Fallaci (R.I.P.) was a great model for them, and in fact for all of us in the West.
What a great loss at this critical time in World history.
We have had two mis fit woman in as Secretary of State, Rice and Albright. The fact is we cannot have a woman dealing with people(Middle East) who basically dump on woman.
Rice has been a total disappointment.
She is totally ignorant of the 'CULT".
For the record, Rice is window dressing sort of like Nixon's Sec of State while he and Kissinger played in the big leagues.
Glick should know better to complain as the adults held a meeting in Jordan 2 weeks ago and Condi was not invited, but it is why Ahmadinejad went scurrying to the house of Saud.
The media likes to play in fantasy what ifs, but Bush, Cheney and company are still running this flying circus and Rice is doing what she does best in being incompetent so the adults can accomplish what needs doing.
US_Infidel, I don't agree that Rice is a Jew-hater. She is simply in way, way over her head and hasn't a clue.
Jimmy Bones, you are spot on. Some of our best thinkers today (I would certainly add Bat Y'eor to your list)are those who stand to lose the most if civilization falls to islam, namely educated women.
US_Infidel is right on!
Where is Meir Kahane when you need him?
Israel is the canary in the coal mine!
Condi,
How far you have fallen from the path of supporting freedom?
I fear that you are turning erstwhile supporters into violent opponents. When our icons fail us, new messages will replace your dogma.
Bye, Condi.
It's been real.
But not real good.
Hey Pez (like in Pez dispenser?)
YOU and The profit wrote...
4:56 Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.
Who is the "WE" in your scripture? Is it you and Allah? Or Muhmadman? Hey do you want to come and roast my skin? Speaking of roasting... Maybe you will WAKE UP, when the smell of the smoke that we leave in your beloved terrorist haven called Iran rises so high that you can see it from the cave you live in.
LO! I disbelieve your hallucinations (I mean revelations.
Oh, and Pez,
Here is some words from a real Prophet.
Ezekiel when he speaks of Iran (Persia) and their buddys, which include Russia, Syria, and others.
Ezek 38:21-23
I will summon a sword against Gog (and Iran) on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man's sword will be against his brother.
22 I will execute judgment upon him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him.
23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.'
NIV
Hey, now that is some smoke and fire for you.... I guess we will just have to see which one is the True Lord. Stay tuned. Are you sure you are worshiping the right one? Would Allah rain down fire on Iran (Persia)? But, the Sovereign Lord of Heaven would... I read the Koran to know how to overcome your foolishness. Have you read the Book?
IT’S ALL ABOUT IRAN
A DRAMATIC NEW APPROACH TO IRAN
We need to deal with Iran now otherwise the US could be left at one minute to midnight with no other option but to attack Iran. The longer the US waits to impose a meaningful sanction regime against Iran, the greater the necessity of military action will become – with all the potential disastrous political and economic consequences for both parties.
The Iranian Sanction Agreement just negotiated by the Security Council is an absolute joke. The US is allowing these countries to delay and obstruct sanctions against Iran.
THE REALITY IS THE US DOES NOT NEED CHINA OR RUSSIA TO INPOSE SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN. THE US CAN IMPOSE DEVASTATING RECIPROCAL SANCTIONS
Lest we all forget one of the main reasons for the Iraq war was that China, Germany, Russia and France had been bought off by Saddem through the UN Oil for Food program. It is hard to believe that these countries by their present actions are again moving us in the direction of war with Iran. By their greed, they are totally blind to the very real danger Iran poses to the entire Middle East. There is an impending political and military catastrophe facing America, Europe, China and the World in the Middle East. This catastrophe will lead to a disastrous disruption of oil supplies that will force oil prices to $5.00/$10.00/gallon and throw the world economy into a massive recession affecting all world economies espically the developing economies of China and India. This could cause political instability on a world wide scale. The reality of the situation is that you can talk with the Iranian leadership until you are blue in the face - AND NOTHING WILL BE ACHIEVED. Iran is marching forward to obtaining a nuclear weapon and will not be stopped with endless talk. TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE.
The American election results, the Baker Report, Condelessa Rice's trips to the Middle East and the recent meetings between the US and Iran in Bagdad do not change the reality that the United States is engaged in a Life and Death Struggle for its national survival. Islamic Fundamentalists. Iran, North Korea and want to inflict a mortal wound. The United States faces the greatest strategic defeat in its national history.
As described in this article - if the US is forced out of Iraq the following disaster will ensue.
The Iraqi government immediately collapses.
All Iraqis who supported the Government and US flee the country by the hundreds of thousands.
Iran immediately steps into the power vacuum supporting the seizure of Baghdad by their radical Shiite militia allies.
A radical Shiite Islamic government is imposed on Iraq.
A podium against the Sunnis begins with millions killed. The survivors are driven out of the country.
One million Hezbollah style fighters are enlisted into the radical Shiite Militias. (If Hezbollah can muster an army of fifty thousand fighters from a Lebanese population of 1.5 million Shiites – then in Iraq a Hezbollah style government would create an army of one million Shiite fanatics.)
This force in alliance with the Iranian army captures Riyadh within weeks and seizes the Gulf States.
They then march into Jordon creating a Shitte Crescent stretching from Iran to the Suez Canal and from the Mediterean Sea to the Russian Cossacks.
As previously mentioned - with 80% of the world’s oil, under Iran's control the price will soar to $5.00/$10.00 per gallon.
Israel is attacked with rockets on all sides effectively shutting down the Israeli economy and destroying the Jewish state.
After obtaining nuclear weapons, Iran unleashes terrorist forces worldwide attacking Europe and the US.
These terrorists smuggle nuclear weapons into London, Paris, Washington, New York and kill millions.
This nightmare does not have to happen.
I’m enclosing a write – up with a number of innovative ideas.
TOUGH LOVE AND IRAN
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the Supreme ruling Alloyatolls see the 21st century not as the century of the rise of China or India but as the century of the Great Shite Revival – the Rise of the Shites. After 1400 years of Sunni domination and oppression, they see Sunni dominance not only in the Middle East but over Islam itself coming to an end.
Ahamadinejad wants to establish a Great Shite Persian Empire stretching from Tehran to the Red Sea and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Caucasus regions of Russia, to the very borders of China - incorporating all the Gulf States, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Israel, Syria, Iraq, Azerbaijan, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan, under the direct control or controlled as vassal states by Iran. This empire would directly control 80% of the entire world oil supply. Iran is a mortal threat not only to Israel but to all the Sunni Arab States. Only the might of the United States stands in the way of this Great Imperial Dream.
There is the saying “When times get tough – the tough get going.” Unfortunately at this moment - with the total lack of any kind of Western Leadership, this saying has been replaced by “When times get tough – the tough get talking and talking and talking.” In the West talking has become a form of appeasement – a way to show that action is being taken - that the tough Western dudes are beating up on Ahmadinejad, when in reality we’re getting our clocks cleaned. Ahmadinejad is going for the Great World Political Poker Championship jackpot with a pair of deuces. Everyone sitting at the game knows that all he has to play is a pair of twos and nobody is calling his hand. Its time to stop playing pocket polo. Its time to call his bluff with our 8 pairs of aces.
Just as the CIA, MI5, French Secret Service, the KGB, all the world’s secret services, even Iraqi generals thought that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction when we now know he had none - grossly overestimated Iraq’s nuclear capabilities to say the least, so too with regard to Iran - all these agencies could be grossly underestimating the Iranian Nuclear Program. The United States does not want to be placed in a position of Iran being months away from going nuclear and forced to face the very harsh reality of attacking Iran. Where force is the only option left. A Tough Love Sanctions Regime must be immediately imposed on Iran. Time for talking at the UN is over. IT’S TIME FOR TOUGH LOVE IRANIAN STYLE.
TOUGH LOVE IRANIAN SANCTIONS
The United States with or without EU support immediately imposes economic and political sanctions against Iran. The sanction regime is divided into 4 parts – Defcom 1 to Defcom 4 with each phase commencing every 30 days and staying in effect until the crisis is resolved. Within the space of 4 months Iran will be under total world wide devastating economic sanctions. ANY INDIVIDUAL, CORPORATION, COUNTRY THAT DISOBEYS ANY PART OF THE SANCTION REGIME - THEN THE TOTALITY OF THE ENTIRE SANCTION REGIME IMMEDIATELY APPLIES TO THEM.
DEFCON 1 SANCTIONS
Under Defcon 1 sanctions Iran is immediately hit with the following measures:
1. The cutting off of all military and nuclear technology, materials, training, building including the Bushehr nuclear power plant being built by the Russians.
2. The suspension of all flights - both private and commercial aircraft in or out of Iran.
3. The worldwide banning of all Iranian passports.
4. Severing all banking relationships between all Iranian Government agencies/officials/organizations, banks, companies, front companies with the entire world banking community.
5. The freezing of all Iranian assets throughout the world including all assets of Iranian Government, Iranian companies, front companies, government officials/organizations.
DEFCON 2
In 30 days, if Iran refuses to stop all uranium enrichment and sit down at the table in good faith then the imposition of the following Defcon 2 Sanctions:
1. The immediate stoppage of all forms of transportation coming in or out of Iran including, buses, automobiles, boats. Only oil tankers would be exempt.
2. Cutting off of all satellite signals, phone lines, internet connections, electricity etc.
3. The complete closure of all border crossings to Iran.
4. The complete shutting down of all economic activity/trade with the outside world except for the importation of gasoline into Iran and the export of oil and gas out of Iran.
DEFCON 3
Thirty days after the imposition of Defcon 2 sanctions, the start of Defcon 3:
1. The importation of gasoline into Iran to be ceased by all countries, companies and individuals.
DEFCON 4
120 days after the start of the first sanction regime - Defcon 4 – the stoppage of all payments for Iranian oil and gas exports – NOT THE STOPPAGE OF THE EXPORT OF IRANIAN OIL AND GAS. JUST THE PAYMENTS FOR THESE PRODUCTS.
Iran can export oil and gas to China etc but the Chinese and other countries can not send money or any other financial instruments to Iran. In short - the oil/gas flows out but no money flows in. If Iran decides to stop the export of oil to certain countries but not to others like China, then under this sanction regime all countries including China must help the affected country or countries. In short, share the pain of oil shortages. If any country refuses to cooperate then the totality of these sanctions will be imposed immediately on them
DEFCON 5
The bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities.
DEFCON 6
The invasion of Iran.
Any force against Iran must be as a last resort. This includes any naval blockade. These are measures to be used only if and when Iran is on the verge of getting a bomb.
Again, if any country, company, or individual chooses to disobey these sanctions then THE TOTALITY OF THE SANCTIONS IMMEDIATELY APPLIES TO THEM. For example, if China decides to continue trading with Iran then all trade between China and ALL countries, companies, individuals immediately ceases. All Chinese container ships on their way to the US or any other country must be turned back. All international flights in or out of China cease. All Chinese passports to be null and void etc. If any country decides to continue to trade with China then the totality of the sanctions immediately applies to them. And so on.
This sanction regime is absolutely devastating. Having these sanctions apply to any country who decides to ignore them will totally devastate that countries economy. THIS LINKAGE GIVES THESE SANCTIONS TOUGH LOVE FERIOUS TEETH.
The smile/smirk on Ahmadinejad’s face will be wiped clean. Most important - the flow of oil does not stop unless Iran chooses to stop it. Only the money flow stops. By not cutting off the oil/gas flow Iran is faced with a dilemma. If it decides to stop the export of these commodities then Iran will definitely lose the support of its two closest allies - Russia/China. These reciprocal sanctions give cover to the EU, Russia and China who can claim to Iran that this situation is not their fault – they have no choice – it is the big, bad USA. The oil gets shipped and the buyer countries send the payments for Iran to a UN trust account until an agreement has been reached. If however Iran resorts to acts of force/ terrorism etc or actually builds a nuclear device then all accumulated monies are immediately forfeited.
Before these sanctions are imposed as a last ditch effort Condoleezza Rice travels to Tehran to speak directly to the Iranian people in a nation wide TV address. This address would be a direct response to the letter Ahmadinejad sent to President Bush months ago. In this speech, she lays it all on the table. The fact that the US does not oppose a peaceful nuclear program. That Ahmadinejad and the Alloyatolls desperately want nuclear weapons. They dream of a Persian Empire. That the acquiring of these weapons will lead to economic chaos for Iran, the destabilization of the entire Middle East, a devastating Sunni/Shite war and a nuclear war in the Middle East with the complete destruction of Iran. Their cities destroyed. Their families killed. The end of all Iranian history forever. Ms Rice will offer them a different vision of their future. A Security alliance with guarantees backed by their Arab neighbors (and the United States.) The termination of all sanctions. Investments for economic development. A vision of the peaceful rise of Iran as a true partner of the Middle East nations (and the West.) The creation with Iran as the most prominent member of a NAFTA style Middle East Free Trade Zone stretching from Tehran to Algeria leading to an economic renaissance of the entire Middle East. A 21st century version of the rise of China and India. Eventually joining this free trade zone to the EU and NAFTA – a 3 billion market. Such a rise will give back to Middle Easterners their historical pride. And finally bring peace to their troubled countries.
Written By,
Larry Houle
E-mail: intermedusa@yahoo.com
www.irandemocracy.net
Larry
Good idea but our pollies do no have the balls to do it. WE MUST.
Infidel33 - Bat Ye'Or was a glaring omission! And there are others that I can visualize but my old memory cells cannot being up their name. There are also some who are regular contributers to this list.
Condi Rice's problem is like most Americans, including her boss, a result of our educational curriculum which has almost totally omitted Islam, and what little it did include was a bland misstatement of history. However, one would have hoped that one of such intelligence assinted to such a position would have, since 9/11, read some of the books by Spencer, Bat Ye'Or, Trifkovic, Bostom, etc., and have overcome her educational void. So far no evidence of that.
And now our educational curriculum has been taken over by CAIR and the like. When this generation graduates they will be carrying their prayer rugs along with their caps and gowns and burkas.