Pakistani policeman murders Ahmadi “infidel”

The Ahmadi sect is one of the few Muslim groups that eschews jihad violence, and for this reason among others it is persecuted and vilified as heretical by other Muslim groups. Westerners sometimes point to the Ahmadiyya as evidence that Islam can reform and become peaceful, and attach a great deal of hope to the sect. But before they can become the vanguard of Islamic reform, other Muslims will have to stop killing them.

“ASI murders Ahmadi “˜infidel,– by Ali Waqar in the Daily Times, with thanks to DFS:

LAHORE: An assistant sub-inspector of police shot dead an Ahmadi, after accusing him of being an “infidel” in the Qadarabad police precincts, Mandi Bahauddin, on Thursday.

The ASI shot Muhammad Ashraf when the latter was having breakfast at a hotel in Seera village near Phalian, killing him instantly. “You are an infidel, and are preaching an infidel creed in the area,” the ASI shouted before shooting Ashraf.

The ASI then went to a police station and turned himself in. A case has been lodged against him under Section 302 of the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC).

Police told Daily Times that the killer had confessed to the crime, and had called himself an “extremist” Muslim.

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  1. says

    We have posters to this site from the Ahmadi sect who try to convince you to become a Muslim….

    ….not now, not tomorrow, not ever…..

    Ban Muslim Immigration now…

  2. says

    “He said the ASI told police that he killed Ashraf for changing his faith from a Sunni Muslim to an Ahmadi. ”

    …SEE what happens when you become Ahmadi….and this was a Muslim converting to a Muslim sect…..

    ..the wonderful world of Islam, the Religion of Peace….

  3. says

    What would happen to a non Muslim converting to the Ahmadi?….

    ….we know the answer….we could expect to be treated just like a Muslim who converts to the Ahmadi…..

    ….I would rather go to Paris Island and learn to enjoy the outdoors and get to play search and destroy games….I would enjoy the new toys given to me…

  4. says

    Wasting Sympathy on Ahmedis

    The mainstream muslim violence on Ahmedis started only in 1953, after Pakistan was established

    Official persecution of Ahmedis started only in 1974, when Bhutto to get Saudi money, classified the Ahmedis as non-muslim

    The Ahmedis have a long history of anti-hindu violence
    Several Arya Samaj preachers who were reconverting muslims to hinduism were assassinated by Ahmedis, examples being Pandit Lekh Ram

  5. says

    ” “You are an infidel, and are preaching an infidel creed in the area,” the ASI shouted before shooting Ashraf.”

    …I believe this….there have been so many instances where Muslims have attacked and killed people in which they make such comments….They seem proud to make such statements, and if they are killed in the attack, their buddies will broad cast the next day…”we killed the infidel who was preaching the the Infidel creed”…Muslim love to boast about killing the infidel….they absolutely love to do it….

  6. says

    “Police told Daily Times that the killer had confessed to the crime, and had called himself an ‘extremist’ Muslim.”

    I suspect he called himself a “true” Muslim and not an “extremist”.

  7. says

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    We’ll soon make the foes of the Union retire;
    Foriegn knaves that would meddle had better skedaddle,
    For them Uncle Sam has a taste of Greek fire!
    They’ll find, if they try it, Columbia’s a giant,
    And victory perched on the flag of the free;
    For the American nation can whale all creation–
    And that’s the opinions of Paddy Magee.
    “The Opinions Of Paddy Magee”

    THE IRISH VOLUNTEER-Songs of the Irish Union Soldier, 1861-1865: David Kincaid
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    “No dogs or Irishmen need apply’ was a sign seen all over pre-Civil War America. Mark Twain had a miner raconteur use it as the refrain to a story for which it was completely irrelevant to the plot.

    Signs proclaiming “no dogs or Irishmen need apply’ were washed away by the blood of the Irish Brigade at First Bull Run, Antietam and Gettysburg.

    David Kincaid’s songs are hunting, full of yearnings for a free Ireland. Yet there is an explicate recognition that if the Irish wanted to be accepted as Americans they had an obligation to fight and sacrifice to preserve the Union so that all men could be free.

    For most of our history Americans expected and demanded that immigrants embrace our founding principles of individual liberty. Immigrants did not have to abandon all ties to their homeland, only those ties incompatible with America’s freedoms.

    Why do we not demand that Muslims that live amongst us today renounce the tenets of their creed that are inimical to our founding principles of individual liberty? Why do we not demand that Muslims that live amongst condemn the ever-increasing evil done in the name of the god of their prophet Mohammad? The answer is grim for the American hating Left that dominate academia, politics, the media and our culture are implacably hostile to our birthright of individual liberty. If you believe I am to pessimistic try calling for the end of the racist spoils system know as affirmative action on any collage campus.

    The prerequisite for defeating the evil that is Islam resurgent is defeating the American hating Left as a political force. If victory is ever to perch again on the flag of the free we must defeat the American hating Left before good Muslims bring the fires of the sun to our shores.

    What city do you think good Muslims will nuke first?

  8. says

    I thought apostates and heretics are given a chance to renounce their heinous deeds and return to the camp of Islam. That’s what the fatwas say.

    Why was this Muhammad Ashraf given summary street justice instead of the chance to revert?

    Naseem, do you know this fellow named Muhammad Ashraf?

  9. says

    “What city do you think good Muslims will nuke first?”

    1..Tel Aviv
    2..Jeruselam
    3..Haifa
    4..Nazareth
    5..Oiryat Gat

    alternative….

    1. US base in Kuwait
    2. US base in Badgad
    3. US aircraft carrier…

    …just my opinion , of course…

  10. says

    “I thought apostates and heretics are given a chance to renounce their heinous deeds and return to the camp of Islam. That’s what the fatwas say. ”

    ….Muslims Lie….they love blood…even their own…

  11. says

    Ralph127:

    I think you’ve got it just about right, and to answer your question, I’d place my bet on Corpus Christi, Texas.

  12. says

    OH,,the GOOD Muslim would love to hit….

    1.. New YOrk
    2.. Boston
    3.. Los Angeles
    4.. Seattle
    5.. Philadelphia
    6.. Miami
    7.. Houston…

  13. says

    What do the western media do when they are finding examples of moderate peaceful Muslims? Why they go down to the nearest Ahmadi mosque where they interview the little kids and the imam who of course explain to the reporter how Islam is a religion of peace, equality, freedom, etc. the Sunni and Shias have no problem with this after all as long as westerners swallow this crap they are off the hook. The ahmadi on their part truly believe they are the best moderate Muslims and they love to speak as though their ideas are representative of all Muslims. But in their Muslim countries, the Ahmadi are treated like infidels and in heretics… In Pakistan they were declared to be officially non Muslims and treated accordingly. I am sure Naseem and her people dare not declare them selves to be Ahmadi lest they get the full infidel treatment in public.

  14. says

    Assalamau Laikum all,

    I was surprised that this news got to JW so quickly. I actually knew Bhaijaan Ashraf…he had befriended Anwer while at the Masjid.

    I have been over to see his wife and 3 daughter childrens and their anguish is unbearable.

    I don’t know what the basturd who did this will get…but peoples we need your support.

    In your own countries far and wide …support the Ahmadi…when you convert…. only do it to Ahmaddia.

    Meantime we have to support Bhiajaan’s family as best as we could…funni how his sunni brothern blame him ..for his own demise. ..pathetic.

  15. says

    Naseem

    I hope all Sunnis in your area start following his example, and that other ASI’s act similarly. Anyway, I’m glad to see a Sunni convert, rather than any real infidels.

    So did his wife and childrens in the jilbab convert as well? I do hope the Ahmadi develop a militia that starts a civil war within Panjab, while the Baluchis, Pathans and Sindis do their own thing. We need a civil war in Pakistan every bit as much as we do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

  16. says

    Naseem – you should be in bed. The time is either 1:30 or 2:30 in Lahore right now.

    What are you doing connected and posting to this forum in the middle of your night?

    Are you in some place other than Pakistan?

  17. says

    The message of this story is that Ahmadis may as well convert to Christianity – the *real* religion of peace. Be a real Lamb and not a wolf in lamb’s clothing.

  18. says

    “Police told Daily Times that the killer had confessed to the crime, and had called himself an “extremist” Muslim.”

    Oh yes, they’re very proud of their illness and wish to spread it around.

  19. says

    annoying mobot writes:
    “I was surprised that this news got to JW so quickly. I actually knew Bhaijaan Ashraf…he had befriended Anwer while at the Masjid.

    I have been over to see his wife and 3 daughter childrens and their anguish is unbearable. ”

    Awwww, isn’t that just terrible? Now hubby has a
    buddy in Hell.

    Best to let these vermin kill each other, it’s what they do best! Just keep them out of here.

  20. says

    Assalamau LAikum root cause,

    May Allah SWt forgive you for your awful comments. You are gonna need his help sooner than you think…just 2 decades away…imagine that…

  21. says

    “I don’t know what the basturd who did this will get…but peoples we need your support. ”

    support? hey nasperm read my lips: go to hell with the rest of your family as soon as possible.

    may another blessed earthquake strike you as soon as possible.

  22. says

    Naseem,

    Let me get this straight. Somebody you know personally has just been shot dead by a member of the same religion for having a slightly different creed and you want us to convert to this same religion? You are nuts. Definitely twisted. Froot loops. Whatever other idiom you can think of for insane. Plus, logic is not your strongest point.

    Once again, Naseem, I pity you.