Russia lines up with the global jihad. But it doesn't look as if they are absolutely impervious to reason about this. "Russia slams U.S. global policy," by Vladimir Isachenkov for Associated Press:
MOSCOW - Russia's Foreign Ministry on Tuesday criticized the United States for what it called over-reliance on force and warned Washington against military action against Iran.But in a major review of foreign policy priorities, the ministry said Russia was ready to cooperate to end global crises if Washington treats it as an equal partner.
The statement reflects Russia's growing confidence and economic clout, and appears to be a signal to Washington that, while the two nations can work together, Russia will not always follow the U.S. lead. It also plays to national pride in advance of parliamentary and presidential elections.
Russia criticized what it called "the creeping American strategy of dragging the global community into a large-scale crisis around Iran," saying that Iran helps maintain stability in Afghanistan and Central Asia.
At the same time, the ministry's paper assailed Iran for its "unconstructive" stance, reflecting growing Kremlin irritation with its ally's refusal to freeze uranium enrichment, as the U.N. demands.
Debka is reporting we're going to attack Iran April 6, at 12:40 am code name Bite and the bombing will last 12 hours and knock out their nuclear installations. Heaven help us if this is true. I hate to see how Iran will retaliate.
Bonniea
I would hate to see a nuclear Iran even more.
Is this the same Russia that invaded, seized, and held a swath of northern Iran after World War II? Suppose the Islamic Republic of Iran manages to obtain nuclear weapons. The hysterical pride of those prideful Persians -- especially the primitives, not the lycee-attendees of the Nafisi or Bhaktiar variety -- will give the Islamic Republic a new, and very long-term, lease on life. And what will that mean for the Azeris in Azerbaijan, or others de-islamized, not quite sufficiently, by the Russians during the anti-religious campaign which, in Central Asia and in the Caucasus, was reasonably successful.
What is it, for god's sake, that the Russians do not understand about the threat, to their own national interests, of a successful and triumphalist Islam, Shi'a or Sunni? Look around the faces on the Arbat. Look at the Caucasus, look at at least three of the five stans and how they are being re-islamized.
What exactly do the Russians need to understand that their supposed foe, the diabolically clever Americans, rubbing their hands in attributed glee at the weakening of Russia, is not their national enemy at all, and the only thing, aside from that little thing called China, with its eye on the prize of Siberia and possibly even Sakhalin and the Kuriles (everyone thinks of Japan, no one thinks of China), that they need worry about -- and they do need to worry about -- is Islam.
Can't even the most loutish of KGB (FSB) men understand that?
April 6th? Sounds more like April fools to me.
This one is a no-brainer, for anyone who has been following Russia's moves going back to the Soviet era. Russia is using jihadist groups and nations as proxies against the West. Russia wants Iran to be a threat to the West and have nuclear weapons, because, as they see it, the more enemies the United States must worry about the better it is for Russia. This is Russia's way of getting back to superpower status.
I would like to know exactly how Russia plans to retaliate if we bomb the Iranian nuclear weapons' development facilities and its air defenses.
Russia criticized [...] American strategy [...] saying that Iran helps maintain stability in Afghanistan and Central Asia.
Iran a stabilizing force? Stability and the soveignity of nations and their borders are only held in high esteem as matters of convenience by most players in this game.
Iran is neither a stabilizing force nor does it recognize sovereignty of nation-states and current political borders as the West and the United Nations understand those concepts.
You don't need a PhD in political science to realize this. Just read the newspapers. Come on.
C'mon, Hugh. The remnant of the "former USSR" is just up to its usual disingenuous games, aided and abetted by all the usual suspects who only see "US hegemony" and are otherwise blind to Putin's various machinations that are clearly intended to reestablish the motherland's super power status.
Other than people inflicted with a raging case of Bush Derangement Syndrome, is there anyone who disbelieves Iraq's former (Christian) Air Vice Marshall's claim that the Russians not only supplied Saddam with contraband weapons, but also helped them smuggle them out of Iraq in fall 2002 into hiding in Syria?
The Russians are still chasing ghosts from the Cold War and still can't get it through their thick skulls that the U.S.A. does not want to call them enemies.
And so, they continue to play their role in the coming war that may very well last, as Orson Scott Card surmises in his own fictional/prophetic timeline, 150 years.
How idiots in governments around the world can continue to lie to themselves and their people about Islamic jihad simply defies all reason.
Debka is reporting we're going to attack Iran April 6, at 12:40 am code name Bite and the bombing will last 12 hours and knock out their nuclear installations. Heaven help us if this is true. I hate to see how Iran will retaliate.
Posted by: Bonniea
They're going to take hostages. That's what they are known for. Heaven help us if we do nothing against iran.
We ought to make a dealw ith Russia. Serbia remains intact and they give us free reign in iran.
That would be a good deal for all.
And it would be bad for moslems. Which means good for us.
How idiots in governments around the world can continue to lie to themselves and their people about Islamic jihad simply defies all reason.
Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 27, 2007 12:21 PM
I believe thats a simple one Foehammer the answer is cowardice and fear!
I would hate to see a nuclear Iran even more.
Posted by: Elric66
I agree with you it is a far worse consequence, but I am concerned with the retaliation factor also. It has to be done sometime and I guess sooner rather than later, but I am sure Iran has sleeper cells in our country too and will activate them if they are attacked. My fear is another 9/11.
I agree with you it is a far worse consequence, but I am concerned with the retaliation factor also. It has to be done sometime and I guess sooner rather than later, but I am sure Iran has sleeper cells in our country too and will activate them if they are attacked. My fear is another 9/11.
Posted by: Bonniea at March 27, 2007 12:26 PM
I fear that too but as long as Islam holds that fear over us, we will be paralyzed to do what we must to survive.
"Debka is reporting we're going to attack Iran April 6, at 12:40 am code name Bite and the bombing will last 12 hours and knock out their nuclear installations. Heaven help us if this is true. I hate to see how Iran will retaliate."
I would hate for this report to be true because that would mean our generals and admirals are failing miserably in their jobs.
The attacks should happen without telegraphing it.
But the attack should definitely happen. I've said so here and on my blog dozens of times by now.
The reason is simple -- you don't deal with criminals and evil without violence. History proves that this is the only communication that works in the most extreme cases, and if we sit back and allow an Islamic government with a proven track record of kidnapping and killing Americans and other Westerners to acquire nuclear power and weaponry, we will prove only one thing -- that we deserve a prolonged conflict that will result because of our incredibly folly and lack of true leadership.
God help me, but I may get sucked into politics yet if this insanity continues.
This morning, listening to Gen Tom McInerny on the radio, I heard for the first time an advocacy that in attacking Iran, we avoid sending in any ground troops and simply take out some 2800 targets (including nukes, command and control, etc), and leave it to the Iranian people to take back their country. Although he was loathe to suggest that Iraq be left, it seems that the mistakes of that war have sunk in. The only thing disturbing about his recommendation was that he suggested a coalition of the willing, in which he included Iran's Sunni rivals, like KSA, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt and Turkey - citing Shia disturbances in these countries as an attempt by pro-Iranian forces to radicalize these countries. I just wish that if Iran can be unraveled, and the others left alone, that would be ideal.
Russia need not worry because the United States does not attack states capable of causing it some serious harm. The united only attack those it deems too weak to fight back....what an abhorant foreign policy!
So why do your jihadist friends gun down little kids Abdullah? Bravery? LOL
Iraq was hardly "weak" -- the United States is simply that powerful that any comparison is moot.
One thing that the world needs to understand about the United States that it so glaringly does not -- we have not been fully mobilized for war since WW II. You do not want to push us to that point again.
"But in a major review of foreign policy priorities, the ministry said Russia was ready to cooperate to end global crises if Washington treats it as an equal partner."
It sounds like they want a deal. I can get with that! We will help you in Serbia and with other Islamic problems etc if you help us with Iran. We will stop interfering in internal Russian affairs and the Russians will stop handing out weapons to the Syrians and Palis etc.
Its time to play lets make a deal....
Let me make myself clear, considering Infidel Pride's comments -- when I call for attacks on Iran I am absolutely not calling for a ground invasion. I'm calling for determined, strategic bombings of the infrastructure, and no it will not be enough to simply take out the nuclear sites. Electricity, communications, military, government -- they all need to be hit. Main civilian areas should be avoided, but if we are going to make the right moves to win this war with Islam, there is no way in hell we can continue to play the game with amateur moves.
Force of will and violent determinism are the only things that might stop this war from becoming one of a 150 years, but as it stand today that is one huge maybe.
If we fail to act then the chances of WMD attacks here in the United States increase dramatically. Many experts believe it is only a matter of time. And then you will see catastrophic repercussions the like of which I'd rather not even envision.
Hey ABBIE-DOOLOO!
Welcome to this thread. Do us a favor and keep posting in bold font as it draws attention to the Islamic hate we alert thinking people about. Keep up the good work. I only hope you are a REAL Muslim and not a poser. For now, you can be the spokesperson for all of Islam. How does that sound? Pretty sweet, huh?
PS- you really need more practice at that taquiyya thing. Remember, you are supposed to be incognito until the right time. Now go report in that you were intimidated by the infidels and pray for forgiveness.
-XRDC
Bombing the hell out of Iran's military and nuclear accests makes much more sense than a ground force.
I dare your country to attack Iran. By Allah you can't because you are scared of what Iran could do to your darling, Israel. LOL
What would Iran do to Israel Abdullah and why would Iran take it out on Israel if its the US that attacked it? Care to explain?
It would attack Israel because it is where it hurts you the most. To see your brothers in the ape religion getting killed by Iranian missiles.
And who said Iran would limit itself to attacking Israel? Iran will also bomb the living day light out of your troops in Iraq.
I think you (America) might want to limit yourselves to bullying the little ones. Don't bite more than you can chew. Tell you what? Iran will bite back real hard, ouch! and thats gotto hurt
There are four conflicts between Muslims and Orthodox Christians at this time,Kosovo,Bosnia,Macedonia,Cyprus.
Where Orthodox Christians are the majority(Macedonia,Cyprus),US supports division,decentralisation,equal sharing of power etc.
Where Muslims are majority (Bosnia,Kosovo)well,US supports majority rule,that is in all four cases it supports Muslims over Orthodox Christians.
May be the Russians understand this is not about Serbs,or Greeks,or Albanians but about them.
I guess Abdullah couldnt answer a simple question
"I guess Abdullah couldnt answer a simple question"
Abdullah is not even a Muslim. Just a troll.
Ignore and carry on.
-XRDC
Abdullah is not even a Muslim. Just a troll.
Ignore and carry on.
-XRDC
Posted by: XRDC at March 27, 2007 01:36 PM
Not even an intelligent troll. Ill take your advice and ignore the little gnat.
I agree with you it is a far worse consequence, but I am concerned with the retaliation factor also. It has to be done sometime and I guess sooner rather than later, but I am sure Iran has sleeper cells in our country too and will activate them if they are attacked. My fear is another 9/11.
Posted by: Bonniea at March 27, 2007 12:26 PM
sure people would be killed by them,but let them wake up.....there is only a couple hundred million sleeping Americans that would put them back to sleep
Robert Spencer is on the DENNIS MILLER RADIO SHOW on right now link is here:
http://radiotime.com/Search.aspx?ChannelId=57917
Click on the top box that says "Dennis Prager" (I know it says prager but the miller show is playing right now).
Im sure Dennis miller will have it archived. Mark Steyn was on the show earlier as well.
Robert Spencer (quotes and paraphrase of what he is saying right now on the Dennis miller show):
the jihadist think they are fighting a 1400 year old struggle...they are the sons and the grandsons and the greatgrandsons" of those that began that struggle.
People ask me why no such jihad violence 50 years ago 100 years ago --the reason was the colonial powers were so strong they (muslim powers) didnt dare. They dont fight when they are not in a favorable position
--The miller show has just opened call in lines you can talk to our hero!
more paraphrase of Robert Spencer (what he is saying right now):
The parents are the secular (muslims) and its the children who are saying you are not practicing true islam.
Saudis and Khoemenis victory in Iran (which can be laid at the feet of jimmy carter) helped lead to the resurgence of violent islam.
the dennis miller call in line is 1-866-509-RANT if I heard that correctly. Robert is going to be on for another segment.
(PS I am listening online via --link above) --Im assuming this show is live. If its not obviously call in wont work.
just tested the number it only works from US.
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"But in a major review of foreign policy priorities, the ministry said Russia was ready to cooperate to end global crises if Washington treats it as an equal partner."
It sounds like they want a deal. I can get with that! We will help you in Serbia and with other Islamic problems etc if you help us with Iran. We will stop interfering in internal Russian affairs and the Russians will stop handing out weapons to the Syrians and Palis etc.
Its time to play lets make a deal....
-posted above
I'm thinking along these same lines. Russia by the sound of it is looking for a business partner, maybe she wants to say stop the bs in Kosovo and we'll help here.
Anyhow this sounds like the golden opportunity for the US to make a step towards making Russia an ally in this war against Islam, go for it!
Ah so Ivan tips his hand in this poker game. The comrade says, "Treat Russia which is a 3rd world regime with nuclear weapons and murderers running it an equal as we were in the old Soviet days to the American superpower"......"and we will cooperate about those naughty Iranians".
Gee and it was Ivan who created the naughty Iranians. Pretty good poker game they are playing.
American response should be: "Want to play with the big boys Ivan? Turn over the thugs who murdered Litvenko with Polonium 210, take back all the arsenal you sold to Syria and CONFESS BEFORE THE UNITED NATIONS YOUR GRU AND FSB DUMPED SADDAM'S CHEMCIAL WEAPONS IN THE INDIAN OCEAN AND TOOK HIS ONE NUKE BACK TO MOSCOW.
Now put up or shut up Ivan as American policy is dictated by American security and America will blow Iran off the map if America deems it necessary".
Lame Cherry:
Huh? I don't think Russia created the Iranian Revolution.
Source please.
If anything it happened under France and Jimmy Carter's watch.
Many Russians think we (the US) are stupid because of our relations with one particular country. I agree.
Americans are stupid, goes their reasoning, because we still treat the Saudi's as our friend and ally after 9/11. Now of course they are not badmouthing Americans who are aware of the horrors that the Saudi regime propagates, but those in our government, with close ties to Saudi Arabia, and those with their heads in the sand.
In Russia, Saudi Arabia is seen as the major supporter of terrorism in the world, and yet the Western governments are their friends. Saudi Arabia is the major supporter of the Chechen rebels. Beslan, Nord Ost, Budyonnovsk hospital, and many other attacks, supported in part by the Saudi's.
The Saudi's role is everywhere from Bosnia and Kosovo to Algeria, from Pakistan to Indonesia. Even here in the west, Saudi money is being thrown at our universities, to build mosques, stock these mosques with hate filled literature, and da'wa. But yet we don't go after Saudi Arabia. But we want Russia to crack down on Iran while we do nothing with Saudi Arabia?
Well yes they should, and we should on Saudi Arabia.
Iran and Saudi Arabia, the twin pillars of Terror in the Middle East, supported by Russia and the US respectively.
We withdraw support from S.A., Russia withdraws support from Iran. And the US deals with Iran and Russia deals with Saudi Arabia, as we each feel best.
If only we had our own secure supply of energy, this option would be a no-brainer, in my opinion.
>What exactly do the Russians need to understand >that their supposed foe, the diabolically clever >Americans, rubbing their hands in attributed glee >t the weakening of Russia, is not their national enemy at all, and the only thing, aside from that
I totally agree, Hugh, but the reality is that from the Russian viewpoint, how can they trust the US when we support the Chechen jihad, the Albanian jihad, Khordokovsky, the various oligarchs, dead Sufi jihadist Litvinenko (treated as a martyr by Western "Conservatives" who should have known better)?
When groups like the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya are consigned to the dustbin of Cold War history, their funds stripped away, and their websites taken down, maybe then we will get somewhere when we lecture the Russians on jihad. Until then, we sound like the world's biggest hypocrites.
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1429
ACPC’s activities include organizing public education programs, developing policy recommendations for lawmakers, and collaborating with activists, journalists, and scholars. It also works closely with a range of nongovernmental policy groups and think tanks, including the American Enterprise Institute and the Jamestown Foundation. The committee distributes Chechnya Today, a daily email news service, and Chechnya Weekly, an online news magazine produced by the Jamestown Foundation. ACPC’s web site contains a news archive; policy papers relating to the U.S. role in Chechnya; and academic papers, maps, and photos of the conflict. Similar to Jamestown Foundation’s founding objective of working with Soviet defectors, ACPC also plans events that feature Chechnyan dissidents. (2)
Glen Howard serves as ACPC’s executive director, and he is president of the Jamestown Foundation. Howard previously worked for Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), a high-tech defense contractor, as a military analyst, and has served as a consultant for the Department of Defense, National Intelligence Council, and “major oil companies operating in Central Asia and the Middle East.” (3) (4)
ACPC’s board of directors is cochaired by Zbigniew Brzezinski, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Steven J. Solarz, and Max Kampelman; and the committee’s more than one hundred members reflect a wide range of political tendencies, including such figures as Richard Gere, Morton Ambramowitz, and Geraldine Ferraro. On its membership rolls are many high-profile neoconservatives, including Richard Perle, Frank Gaffney, Elliott Abrams, Midge Decter, William Kristol, Michael Ledeen, and James Woolsey. (5)
FredIsinglass:
This one is a no-brainer, for anyone who has been following Russia's moves going back to the Soviet era. Russia is using jihadist groups and nations as proxies against the West.
What kind of island are you on?
In the 80's Russia fought the Mujahadden in Afghanistan for 10 years and them pulled out.
In the late 90's and 2000's, Russia was dealing with insurrection in Chechnia.
Then there is the destabilisation of North Ossetia, Ingushetia, Dagestan due to the Chechnia conflict.
Then there was the Moscow theatre incident.
Then there was the Beslan incident with schoolchildren massacered.
Does this sound like "Russia using jihadist groups"? Sounds to me like Russia is trying to beat jihadism in its own backyard.
Russia wants Iran to be a threat to the West and have nuclear weapons, because, as they see it, the more enemies the United States must worry about the better it is for Russia. This is Russia's way of getting back to superpower status.
There is truth in that. Russia does want to be a superpower again but I hardly think they want Islamic fundamentalism in their backyard.
The truth is that many old-school FSB apparatchiks (successor to KGB), trust the West less than Iran. And Russia has its own worries, not least that the average Russian male lives only to 59 and the population of Russia is shrinking by 750,000 every year - low birt rates. Russia has a massive health problem, many of its young men are drug addicts. It was Putin's State-of-The-Union address this year - decline of health in Russia.
I have heard that for the first time ever, Russia is worried by Chinese businessman operating in Siberia, that they may come to outnumber native Russians inside Russia.
I would like to know exactly how Russia plans to retaliate if we bomb the Iranian nuclear weapons' development facilities and its air defenses.
They would complain. But that is all.
FredIsinglass:
This one is a no-brainer, for anyone who has been following Russia's moves going back to the Soviet era. Russia is using jihadist groups and nations as proxies against the West.
What kind of island are you on?
In the 80's Russia fought the Mujahadden in Afghanistan for 10 years and them pulled out.
In the late 90's and 2000's, Russia was dealing with insurrection in Chechnia.
Then there is the destabilisation of North Ossetia, Ingushetia, Dagestan due to the Chechnia conflict.
Then there was the Moscow theatre incident.
Then there was the Beslan incident with schoolchildren massacered.
Does this sound like "Russia using jihadist groups"? Sounds to me like Russia is trying to beat jihadism in its own backyard.
Russia wants Iran to be a threat to the West and have nuclear weapons, because, as they see it, the more enemies the United States must worry about the better it is for Russia. This is Russia's way of getting back to superpower status.
There is truth in that. Russia does want to be a superpower again but I hardly think they want Islamic fundamentalism in their backyard.
The truth is that many old-school FSB apparatchiks (successor to KGB), trust the West less than Iran. And Russia has its own worries, not least that the average Russian male lives only to 59 and the population of Russia is shrinking by 750,000 every year - low birt rates. Russia has a massive health problem, many of its young men are drug addicts. It was Putin's State-of-The-Union address this year - decline of health in Russia.
I have heard that for the first time ever, Russia is worried by Chinese businessman operating in Siberia, that they may come to outnumber native Russians inside Russia.
I would like to know exactly how Russia plans to retaliate if we bomb the Iranian nuclear weapons' development facilities and its air defenses.
They would complain. But that is all.
UK Infidel Lover,
Feelings from the Cold War die hard. "Can't trust the Russians", "they are rebuilding the Evil Empire", "they are out to get us" still color our prerceptions.
And it is a two way street. Many Russians don't trust America, "They always try to undermine our power", "the colored revolutions of Ukraine and Georgia were an American plot", "They have an economically unequal society". Feelings from the Cold War on both sides of the divide die hard.
About Russia responding to our attack:
Why would Russia care about other countries? Russia looks after Russia first.
npabga:
And it is a two way street. Many Russians don't trust America, "They always try to undermine our power", "the colored revolutions of Ukraine and Georgia were an American plot", "They have an economically unequal society". Feelings from the Cold War on both sides of the divide die hard.
npabga, I agree with what you say. After the collapse of communism and the Soviet Union, they are still trying to find their way as a country.
And Russians believe in conspiracy theories, dead easily. It will probably take 100 years before they are most trusting, but I dont see that with the Kremlin becoming more authoritarian.
About Russia responding to our attack:
Why would Russia care about other countries? Russia looks after Russia first.
It is very true. They feel embattled, so they are looking after themselves, just themselves (even if it proves shortsighted policy). Russia is alo seeking to extend its influence in its immediate backyard: Belarussia, Ukraine, Georgia, Kazakistan etc in territory it lost. And with the price of oil and gas being high, Russia is doing economically better, it being an energy provider (so it can use economic blackmail).
They basically dont want the US extending it is influence in Russia's backyard - they are very distrustful.
Если америка напрактиковала честную свободную торговлю с Россией, то возможно Россия положиться на Иране для хозяйственной поддержки.
all of you that are advocating a strike on iran, a question, will you be on the front lines or sitting in your armchairs in front of your computer screens?
i believe that we simply need to take out the head of the cobra, ie wipe out the top islamic leadership and forment revolution in iran.
me? oh i'll be sitting in my armchair, i'm no walter mitty.
The Resistance Извините, но мы только говорим по-английски на этом сайте, а что, я не знаю грамматику.
oh I see that you do! ah good!
nope I was too quick,
Translation to the best of my ability:
If America practiced free trade with Russia, then it is possible that Russia will rely on Iran for economic support.
поддержки - о Бушаре?
I still believe that the Russian attitude was formed when NATO (Bill Clinton et al) bombed Serbia. We will reap that ill will for a long time.
Homo economicus - It all comes down to money :). The US stands in the way of Russia's WTO bid, so they'll turn to Bushar.
US_infidel,
a great idea, if Bush could some how force US private business to pay for higher prices by going through the Russians, because of the increased demand for Russian oil, without the corresponding increase in supply - it will take years before the world can access many of Russia's oil fields. And when the price of Russian oil increases, then the world (China and India, I am looking at you) would buy the now relatively cheaper Middle Eastern oil.
Damn you invisible hand!!!
“All of you that are advocating a strike on Iran, a question, will you be on the front lines or sitting in your armchairs in front of your computer screens?”
Well that is a good question mate. My brother is in Germany working on Stryker’s and my Stepdad is in Iraq up armouring trucks.
My real dad died at 10:50pm last night after a long illness. His name was James Croft. I love him and I miss him. I gave up my job as a heavy wheel mech for the 1st ID three years ago so I could care for him. Three years I am proud of.
Now I have to go back to work. Am I an armchair general or a soldier? I am neither.
It's not a matter of Russian resentment over Free Trade treaties and practices. It's a resentment over American power and ressentiment over Russian loss of power, and a belief that the latter is owed directly to the effect of the former. And that resentment and that ressentiment are without foundation. The American government would be happy to see Russia succeed. They would have been happy had Khodorkovsky not been arrested but allowed to build Lukos up. They would have been perfectly happy if the pensioners were paid better, if the scientists at Akademgorodok had their wages raised ten-fold. The United States government, and its people, are hardly paying attention to, and certainly are not plotting or maneuvering, to weaken Russia. I'm sure if the Americans could take a vote on undoing Yeltsin's stupified and stupefying giving away of all of Central Asia, they would vote to reverse it.
Sorry about your loss Mert, will say a prayer.
Take care.
the Russian holdovers from KGB, aka Putin need to go away, as long as Putin is in power, Russia will always put the fix on the US and rest. l do agree with Hug, that most in the West, esp. the US, would like to see a properous Russia, its too bad the Russians keep reliving the past and blame the US instead of realizing communism is never going to work.
Thankyou.
ZenaWarriorPrincess:
I agree that Putin does not have the intertests of Russia at heart. But some nitpicks:
In Russia, Communism is not seen as a workable system by voters. The only people who vote for the communist party are the old babushkas and dedushkas. They don't think that Communism is an applicable economic theory, but they vote for the Communist Party because they are looking for the security that the old Communist Party offered. We had money, but nothing to buy, but we never went hungry and received housing.
These older people scare Putin's regime, because they were actually brave enough to protest throughout the country when Putin and Co. tried to decrease their already miserly benefits.
Nor would I say Russians are reliving the past. However, conspiracy theories are rampant because of an inherent historical distrust of the government and the lack of a free press.
Take care.
Mert,i'm so sorry for your loss
Mert l am very sorry to hear of your loss, Fathers are very special people. my dad has been gone to 18 years now, and how l wish he would be here, he was a great debater, and instilled in my family, values of honesty and hard work makes you a better person.
so take care Mert.
I was in Russia last year. The people there are very friendly and accommodating. Most Russians live in flats (Soviet Apartments) and are very modest.A lot of them ( a vast majority) don't own cars and rely on public transportation. The only people in Russia that understand capitalism are cab drivers and are not Muslim.
I would like to see Russia prosper, but not off the backs of Islamic countries. Buying their oil, raw materials, volunteer construction is a start.
I apologize for using Russian on this post. I did it in fun.
If the Russian government continues to play silent partner to Iran's ongoing global jihad it will be forced to pay the price. People are being threatened across the globe partly as a result of this alliance, and Putin knows it too. Incidentally, the ongoing genocide in Sudan is in large part the handiwork of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard according to Israeli Intelligence sources. How many have been murdered in Sudan as a result of this Iranian-backed jihad in Sudan? How many more must die there as a result of this unholy confluence?
At this point not confronting Iran is going to encourage its aggressive tactics further. Nukes, missiles and all. How lovely a prospect.
Russia does not contribute to humanity on a scale commensurate with the United States, and it never has. It cannot therefore be considered an equal partner. Russia has also recently demonstrated that it still cannot be trusted (it supplied Saddam Hussein'e government with the WMDs that we have been told 'never' existed).
The Russian government MUST stop acting as a handmaiden to Islamic terror. And Iran and its global jihad must also be stopped.If the Russian people fail to stop Vladimir Putin and his reprehensible policies then the western democracies will have no choice but to step up to the plate and stop him for them.
Memo to Mert: Would you prefer to see Iranian nuclear-armed ballistic missiles obliterate a major city or cities in a western democratic nation and kill thousands or even millions of people (which is what is about to happen). Please consider what the alternative of NOT stopping Iran's global-nuclear jihad would be and how it would impact the world. And by the way many of us have been exposed to Islamic terror in our home countries by now. I flew into LAX on the night al-Qaeda had planned to blow it up--it may well have been due to divine intervention that I and thousands of others are still alive. And--May your loved one rest in peace.
To those who wants to know how USA is going to attack Iran, read this Article http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2006/04/collapsing_iran.html
the attack is going to be a Effect based operations (EBO) and literally Iran military and politic system is going to be collapsed
Mert, I'm very sorry for your loss and I thank you and your family members for their service to our country.
Regarding the potential attack on Iran, I read in Debka today it would be an air campaign lasting 12 hours, so probably the only boots on the ground would be SF, Delta and Seals in very small numbers if at all. Who even knows if it will happen next week, but it will have to happen sometime in the future.
Mert, my condolences on your bereavement.
The Resistance
I enjoy seeing posts in Cyrillic - I just wish I knew every language. As it is, I suck at even picking up languages, but enjoy those special Cyrillic and Greek characters. I like it that sometimes, sentences in Latin, French, German, Russian make it here; I just wish I knew what they were.
Mert
Here from OZ please accept our sympathy, we are with you in spirit. I lost my dad 32 years ago and I still shed tears.
Goodonya mate
Russia can go to hell. Iran deserves to be pounded and pouned they will be.
If they think they are going to wipe Israel off the map they had better look at their own fate very carefullly.
Iran will be extinguished...
Mert -- I am sorry for the loss of your Father. That is not an easy thing to go through. Many condolences to you and your family.
Thanks for your messages, he was a good bloke.
He was only eleven when WWII started and I come from a farming family, so he never fought against the Germans. But one night he was moving the cows over the railway bridge at Lostock Hall near Preston and he heard a heavy plane following the lines from the north. Has it passed over he saw it was German and blasted at it with his Shotgun.
I’m confused and uncertain and sometimes strong, but on occasions amazingly weak. The slightest things can set you off.